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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Robert B. Winn"
Date: 06 Nov 2004 08:43:01 AM
Object: : Choice and Homosexuality
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On 20 Oct 2004 15:00:10 -0700,

(Robert B. Winn)
wrote:









Well, I used a definition given by Jesus Christ 2000 years ago. How
do you get that it is a new definition?
Robert B. winn


God defines a Bat as a Bird. It seems God got a few things wrong

what's your point?

James, Seattle



Well, I don't think so.
Robert B. Winn


OK, so how is a bat a bird?



Bats and various kinds of birds and shellfish were on a list of
creatures listed by Moses as being unclean. How are bats and birds
shellfish?
Robert B. Winn


The Bible never said shellfish are birds. It DOES say that bats are
birds. Nice attempt at a dodge. So how are bats birds?



You might want to ask someone in the field of biology. I do not
really care how they are birds.
Robert B. Winn


They aren't.



Well, if you want to eat them, go ahead. The law of Moses was
fulfilled when Christ was born.
Robert B. winn


I don't want to eat them. I want you to explain why God said bats are
birds when he supposedly knew better.



Well, my guess is that the verse was mis-translated.


Kinda like "with child"??

When Moses said



flying creatures, it was translated fowls.
Robert B. Winn



How was with child mistranslated? With child means the same thing as pregnant.
Robert B. Winn


The word "child" did not appear in the original writing. Inserting it is
a mistranslation.



Well, of course, you are welcome to your own opinion. I think it was
translated exactly right.


That's an opinion, and an uneducated one at that, not a fact.

Perhaps after the resurrection we can get

Luke's opinion about the translation.


'Fraid not.
He's staying dead.


Robert B. winn



Well, let's just wait until Christ returns and see what he says then.
Robert B. Winn


Nothing, because he's still dead.

Resurrected. He arose from the tomb on the third day.
Robert B. Winn
.

User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 17 Nov 2004 03:57:16 PM
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Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a

strong
statement.

Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt to

perpetrate
the

crime
of

homosexuality with a child. If the child tells

the
police

about
it,

the homosexual is arrested and convicted of the

crime,

even in
an

immoral pro-abortion society like this one. This

is
just

one
example

of how a homosexual is prevented from

participating in
the

sin
of

homosexuality. That is just the way it is.
Robert B. Winn


This is quite possibly the dumbest post I've read on

usenet

in
at

least
a

week. Congrats, Robert!


Well, I know that there are many pedophiles who would

say
they

agree
with

you.

Really, Robert? How do you know what pedophiles would

agree

or
disagree

with?


Pedophiles are in favor of pedophelia. I thought you

would be
able to

make that connection. Sorry if I expected more from you

than
was

there.


Sorry, but it doesn't follow that someone calling your post

dumb

would
be in

agreement with pedophiles. Pedophiles should actually agree

with

your
post

if it were correct. Are you saying that your post wasn't

correct in

how
it

protrayed pedophiles?
As to your expectations, you don't need to be sorry. I

accept
you

as
you

are.


Still trying to get an apology?


I see now why you keep misunderstanding what you read in the

bible.
You

can't read plainly spoken ideas and get the right answer.
I am not trying to get an apology, though you certainly owe me

one.

I
said

I accept you as you are.


Wonderful. Well, you accept all of my little faults, so I am not
going to worry about them around you.


I accept you as you are.
That shouldn't encourage you to be less than you should be, however.
I think we should all strive to be more moral animals.


Actually, I am a human being. You know, like the ones being killed by

abortion.

Human beings are also animals, Robert.
I really don't think you are like a fetus.


Why not? I have two arms and two legs. I can move just like a
fetus. What is the difference you see?


Ah, so you think a fetus has to have arms and legs to be human. I guess you
don't care about the embryo that is only a few cells. You are forwarding
your pro-abortion position now. I knew the truth would come out.

Well, I have at least two cells. What is the difference you find
between the two-celled human and me?
Robert B. winn
.
User: "MrD"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 17 Nov 2004 04:38:26 PM
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Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to

make a

strong
statement.

Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt to

perpetrate
the

crime
of

homosexuality with a child. If the child

tells

the
police

about
it,

the homosexual is arrested and convicted of

the

crime,

even in
an

immoral pro-abortion society like this one.

This

is
just

one
example

of how a homosexual is prevented from

participating in
the

sin
of

homosexuality. That is just the way it is.
Robert B. Winn


This is quite possibly the dumbest post I've

read on

usenet

in
at

least
a

week. Congrats, Robert!


Well, I know that there are many pedophiles who

would

say
they

agree
with

you.

Really, Robert? How do you know what pedophiles

would

agree

or
disagree

with?


Pedophiles are in favor of pedophelia. I thought you

would be
able to

make that connection. Sorry if I expected more from

you

than
was

there.


Sorry, but it doesn't follow that someone calling your

post

dumb

would
be in

agreement with pedophiles. Pedophiles should actually

agree

with

your
post

if it were correct. Are you saying that your post

wasn't

correct in

how
it

protrayed pedophiles?
As to your expectations, you don't need to be sorry. I

accept
you

as
you

are.


Still trying to get an apology?


I see now why you keep misunderstanding what you read in the

bible.
You

can't read plainly spoken ideas and get the right answer.
I am not trying to get an apology, though you certainly owe

me

one.

I
said

I accept you as you are.


Wonderful. Well, you accept all of my little faults, so I am

not

going to worry about them around you.


I accept you as you are.
That shouldn't encourage you to be less than you should be,

however.

I think we should all strive to be more moral animals.


Actually, I am a human being. You know, like the ones being

killed by

abortion.

Human beings are also animals, Robert.
I really don't think you are like a fetus.


Why not? I have two arms and two legs. I can move just like a
fetus. What is the difference you see?


Ah, so you think a fetus has to have arms and legs to be human. I guess

you

don't care about the embryo that is only a few cells. You are

forwarding

your pro-abortion position now. I knew the truth would come out.


Well, I have at least two cells. What is the difference you find
between the two-celled human and me?

You cannot be frozen and survive.
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 18 Nov 2004 06:59:55 AM
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Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to

make a

strong
statement.

Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt to

perpetrate
the

crime
of

homosexuality with a child. If the child

tells

the
police

about
it,

the homosexual is arrested and convicted of

the
crime,

even in
an

immoral pro-abortion society like this one.

This

is
just

one
example

of how a homosexual is prevented from

participating in
the

sin
of

homosexuality. That is just the way it is.
Robert B. Winn


This is quite possibly the dumbest post I've

read on
usenet

in
at

least
a

week. Congrats, Robert!


Well, I know that there are many pedophiles who

would

say
they

agree
with

you.

Really, Robert? How do you know what pedophiles

would
agree

or
disagree

with?


Pedophiles are in favor of pedophelia. I thought you

would be
able to

make that connection. Sorry if I expected more from

you

than
was

there.


Sorry, but it doesn't follow that someone calling your

post
dumb

would
be in

agreement with pedophiles. Pedophiles should actually

agree
with

your
post

if it were correct. Are you saying that your post

wasn't
correct in

how
it

protrayed pedophiles?
As to your expectations, you don't need to be sorry. I

accept
you

as
you

are.


Still trying to get an apology?


I see now why you keep misunderstanding what you read in the

bible.
You

can't read plainly spoken ideas and get the right answer.
I am not trying to get an apology, though you certainly owe

me
one.

I
said

I accept you as you are.


Wonderful. Well, you accept all of my little faults, so I am

not

going to worry about them around you.


I accept you as you are.
That shouldn't encourage you to be less than you should be,

however.

I think we should all strive to be more moral animals.


Actually, I am a human being. You know, like the ones being

killed by

abortion.

Human beings are also animals, Robert.
I really don't think you are like a fetus.


Why not? I have two arms and two legs. I can move just like a
fetus. What is the difference you see?


Ah, so you think a fetus has to have arms and legs to be human. I guess

you

don't care about the embryo that is only a few cells. You are

forwarding

your pro-abortion position now. I knew the truth would come out.


Well, I have at least two cells. What is the difference you find
between the two-celled human and me?


You cannot be frozen and survive.

I do not intend to be frozen. That is why I moved to Arizona.
Robert B. Winn
.
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Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 18 Nov 2004 10:15:02 AM
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Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to

make a

strong
statement.

Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt

to

perpetrate
the

crime
of

homosexuality with a child. If the child

tells

the
police

about
it,

the homosexual is arrested and convicted

of

the
crime,

even in
an

immoral pro-abortion society like this

one.

This

is
just

one
example

of how a homosexual is prevented from

participating in
the

sin
of

homosexuality. That is just the way it

is.

Robert B. Winn


This is quite possibly the dumbest post I've

read on
usenet

in
at

least
a

week. Congrats, Robert!


Well, I know that there are many pedophiles

who

would

say
they

agree
with

you.

Really, Robert? How do you know what pedophiles

would
agree

or
disagree

with?


Pedophiles are in favor of pedophelia. I thought

you

would be
able to

make that connection. Sorry if I expected more

from

you

than
was

there.


Sorry, but it doesn't follow that someone calling

your

post
dumb

would
be in

agreement with pedophiles. Pedophiles should

actually

agree
with

your
post

if it were correct. Are you saying that your post

wasn't
correct in

how
it

protrayed pedophiles?
As to your expectations, you don't need to be sorry.

I

accept
you

as
you

are.


Still trying to get an apology?


I see now why you keep misunderstanding what you read in

the

bible.
You

can't read plainly spoken ideas and get the right

answer.

I am not trying to get an apology, though you certainly

owe

me
one.

I
said

I accept you as you are.


Wonderful. Well, you accept all of my little faults, so I

am

not

going to worry about them around you.


I accept you as you are.
That shouldn't encourage you to be less than you should be,

however.

I think we should all strive to be more moral animals.


Actually, I am a human being. You know, like the ones being

killed by

abortion.

Human beings are also animals, Robert.
I really don't think you are like a fetus.


Why not? I have two arms and two legs. I can move just like a
fetus. What is the difference you see?


Ah, so you think a fetus has to have arms and legs to be human. I

guess

you

don't care about the embryo that is only a few cells. You are

forwarding

your pro-abortion position now. I knew the truth would come out.


Well, I have at least two cells. What is the difference you find
between the two-celled human and me?


You cannot be frozen and survive.


I do not intend to be frozen. That is why I moved to Arizona.

Irrelevant. You cannot be frozen and remain viable life. You are
different.
.
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Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 19 Nov 2004 04:55:20 AM
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Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to

make a

strong
statement.

Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt

to

perpetrate
the

crime
of

homosexuality with a child. If the child

tells

the
police

about
it,

the homosexual is arrested and convicted

of

the
crime,

even in
an

immoral pro-abortion society like this

one.
This

is
just

one
example

of how a homosexual is prevented from

participating in
the

sin
of

homosexuality. That is just the way it

is.

Robert B. Winn


This is quite possibly the dumbest post I've

read on
usenet

in
at

least
a

week. Congrats, Robert!


Well, I know that there are many pedophiles

who
would

say
they

agree
with

you.

Really, Robert? How do you know what pedophiles

would
agree

or
disagree

with?


Pedophiles are in favor of pedophelia. I thought

you

would be
able to

make that connection. Sorry if I expected more

from
you

than
was

there.


Sorry, but it doesn't follow that someone calling

your

post
dumb

would
be in

agreement with pedophiles. Pedophiles should

actually

agree
with

your
post

if it were correct. Are you saying that your post

wasn't
correct in

how
it

protrayed pedophiles?
As to your expectations, you don't need to be sorry.

I

accept
you

as
you

are.


Still trying to get an apology?


I see now why you keep misunderstanding what you read in

the

bible.
You

can't read plainly spoken ideas and get the right

answer.

I am not trying to get an apology, though you certainly

owe

me
one.

I
said

I accept you as you are.


Wonderful. Well, you accept all of my little faults, so I

am
not

going to worry about them around you.


I accept you as you are.
That shouldn't encourage you to be less than you should be,

however.

I think we should all strive to be more moral animals.


Actually, I am a human being. You know, like the ones being

killed by

abortion.

Human beings are also animals, Robert.
I really don't think you are like a fetus.


Why not? I have two arms and two legs. I can move just like a
fetus. What is the difference you see?


Ah, so you think a fetus has to have arms and legs to be human. I

guess
you

don't care about the embryo that is only a few cells. You are

forwarding

your pro-abortion position now. I knew the truth would come out.


Well, I have at least two cells. What is the difference you find
between the two-celled human and me?


You cannot be frozen and survive.


I do not intend to be frozen. That is why I moved to Arizona.


Irrelevant. You cannot be frozen and remain viable life. You are
different.

So what are you saying, a two-celled human is more alive than I am?
Robert B. Winn
.
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Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 19 Nov 2004 08:25:28 AM
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Profanity is the attempt of a weak

mind to

make a

strong
statement.

Suppose that a homosexual were to

attempt

to

perpetrate
the

crime
of

homosexuality with a child. If the

child

tells

the
police

about
it,

the homosexual is arrested and

convicted

of

the
crime,

even in
an

immoral pro-abortion society like this

one.
This

is
just

one
example

of how a homosexual is prevented from

participating in
the

sin
of

homosexuality. That is just the way

it

is.

Robert B. Winn


This is quite possibly the dumbest post

I've

read on
usenet

in
at

least
a

week. Congrats, Robert!


Well, I know that there are many

pedophiles

who
would

say
they

agree
with

you.

Really, Robert? How do you know what

pedophiles

would
agree

or
disagree

with?


Pedophiles are in favor of pedophelia. I

thought

you

would be
able to

make that connection. Sorry if I expected

more

from
you

than
was

there.


Sorry, but it doesn't follow that someone

calling

your

post
dumb

would
be in

agreement with pedophiles. Pedophiles should

actually

agree
with

your
post

if it were correct. Are you saying that your

post

wasn't
correct in

how
it

protrayed pedophiles?
As to your expectations, you don't need to be

sorry.

I

accept
you

as
you

are.


Still trying to get an apology?


I see now why you keep misunderstanding what you

read in

the

bible.
You

can't read plainly spoken ideas and get the right

answer.

I am not trying to get an apology, though you

certainly

owe

me
one.

I
said

I accept you as you are.


Wonderful. Well, you accept all of my little faults,

so I

am
not

going to worry about them around you.


I accept you as you are.
That shouldn't encourage you to be less than you should

be,

however.

I think we should all strive to be more moral animals.


Actually, I am a human being. You know, like the ones

being

killed by

abortion.

Human beings are also animals, Robert.
I really don't think you are like a fetus.


Why not? I have two arms and two legs. I can move just like

a

fetus. What is the difference you see?


Ah, so you think a fetus has to have arms and legs to be human.

I

guess
you

don't care about the embryo that is only a few cells. You are

forwarding

your pro-abortion position now. I knew the truth would come

out.


Well, I have at least two cells. What is the difference you find
between the two-celled human and me?


You cannot be frozen and survive.


I do not intend to be frozen. That is why I moved to Arizona.


Irrelevant. You cannot be frozen and remain viable life. You are
different.


So what are you saying, a two-celled human is more alive than I am?

I'm answering your question, what makes you different from a 2 celled human.
Any value judgement you are making from that is your own judgement, not
mine.
I think you are far more valuable than any 2 celled human.
That's just my opinion, though, and perhaps some people think differently.
.
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Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 20 Nov 2004 12:30:47 AM
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Profanity is the attempt of a weak

mind to
make a

strong
statement.

Suppose that a homosexual were to

attempt
to

perpetrate
the

crime
of

homosexuality with a child. If the

child
tells

the
police

about
it,

the homosexual is arrested and

convicted
of

the
crime,

even in
an

immoral pro-abortion society like this

one.
This

is
just

one
example

of how a homosexual is prevented from

participating in
the

sin
of

homosexuality. That is just the way

it
is.

Robert B. Winn


This is quite possibly the dumbest post

I've

read on
usenet

in
at

least
a

week. Congrats, Robert!


Well, I know that there are many

pedophiles

who
would

say
they

agree
with

you.

Really, Robert? How do you know what

pedophiles

would
agree

or
disagree

with?


Pedophiles are in favor of pedophelia. I

thought
you

would be
able to

make that connection. Sorry if I expected

more

from
you

than
was

there.


Sorry, but it doesn't follow that someone

calling
your

post
dumb

would
be in

agreement with pedophiles. Pedophiles should

actually

agree
with

your
post

if it were correct. Are you saying that your

post

wasn't
correct in

how
it

protrayed pedophiles?
As to your expectations, you don't need to be

sorry.
I

accept
you

as
you

are.


Still trying to get an apology?


I see now why you keep misunderstanding what you

read in
the

bible.
You

can't read plainly spoken ideas and get the right

answer.

I am not trying to get an apology, though you

certainly
owe

me
one.

I
said

I accept you as you are.


Wonderful. Well, you accept all of my little faults,

so I

am
not

going to worry about them around you.


I accept you as you are.
That shouldn't encourage you to be less than you should

be,
however.

I think we should all strive to be more moral animals.


Actually, I am a human being. You know, like the ones

being
killed by

abortion.

Human beings are also animals, Robert.
I really don't think you are like a fetus.


Why not? I have two arms and two legs. I can move just like

a

fetus. What is the difference you see?


Ah, so you think a fetus has to have arms and legs to be human.

I

guess
you

don't care about the embryo that is only a few cells. You are

forwarding

your pro-abortion position now. I knew the truth would come

out.


Well, I have at least two cells. What is the difference you find
between the two-celled human and me?


You cannot be frozen and survive.


I do not intend to be frozen. That is why I moved to Arizona.


Irrelevant. You cannot be frozen and remain viable life. You are
different.


So what are you saying, a two-celled human is more alive than I am?


I'm answering your question, what makes you different from a 2 celled human.
Any value judgement you are making from that is your own judgement, not
mine.
I think you are far more valuable than any 2 celled human.
That's just my opinion, though, and perhaps some people think differently.

Why would I be more valuable than a two celled human? You are the
first person to ever make that assessment.
Robert B. Winn
.

User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 20 Nov 2004 08:42:47 AM
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X


I do not intend to be frozen. That is why I moved to Arizona.


Irrelevant. You cannot be frozen and remain viable life. You are
different.


So what are you saying, a two-celled human is more alive than I am?


I'm answering your question, what makes you different from a 2 celled human.
Any value judgement you are making from that is your own judgement, not
mine.
I think you are far more valuable than any 2 celled human.
That's just my opinion, though, and perhaps some people think differently.

So what are you saying about the two-celled human? If you can say,
This two-celled human does not deserve to live, and then you help kill
it, you have proven to yourself that you are more intelligent than the
two-celled human. I have noticed the same attitude in people who
steal. If they can steal something from another person, they feel
more intelligent than that person.
Robert B. winn
.







User: ""

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 03 Jan 2005 05:20:54 PM
Well, you are the one in favor of pedophelia. I am not in favor of
pedophelia.
So, let's see if you accept me as I am or if you try to change me.
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "nJb"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 03 Jan 2005 11:28:01 PM
wrote:


Well, you are the one in favor of pedophelia. I am not in favor of
pedophelia.
So, let's see if you accept me as I am or if you try to change me.
Robert B. Winn

You're wearing diapers?
Jack
.
User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 04 Jan 2005 06:28:08 AM
nJb <NoNHL@all.com> writes:

rbwinn3@juno.com wrote:

Well, you are the one in favor of pedophelia. I am not in favor of
pedophelia.
So, let's see if you accept me as I am or if you try to change me.
Robert B. Winn

You're wearing diapers?

He's matured *that* much?
(I can see where you get your username from...with the Gwizzlies in town, you
don't have the AHL either, this season. :-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Norfolk 1 (December 31)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, January 8 at Milwaukee, 1:35
.
User: "nJb"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 04 Jan 2005 01:42:04 PM
Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:


nJb <NoNHL@all.com> writes:

rbwinn3@juno.com wrote:


Well, you are the one in favor of pedophelia. I am not in favor of
pedophelia.
So, let's see if you accept me as I am or if you try to change me.
Robert B. Winn


You're wearing diapers?


He's matured *that* much?

(I can see where you get your username from...with the Gwizzlies in town, you
don't have the AHL either, this season. :-)

Caught a game when the Griffins were in town. Even though the Grizz won
it was rather drab. A year ago last night I was at Joe Louis Arena
watching the Wings push the Ducks around. How things change.
Jack
.


User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 04 Jan 2005 05:06:21 AM
nJb wrote:

rbwinn3@juno.com wrote:

Well, you are the one in favor of pedophelia. I am not in favor of
pedophelia.
So, let's see if you accept me as I am or if you try to change me.
Robert B. Winn




You're wearing diapers?

Jack

LOL!!!!!
--
--sexkitten--
In Loving Memory of Jim Addison
9/18/71 - 12/30/04
Seeing you lie there,
no movement, no life, no soul
broke my heart and
pushed me to the ground.
I began to cry and reached for love
but the one i loved had gone away
leaving me alone
to face the ever trying day
My head knew you were gone for ever,
but my heart held onto the hope you were just sleeping
for the all moments I saw you alive,
was a treasured moment worth keeping.
Now I need to let go for good,
but it is the hardest thing to do,
to let something go you love,
to have nothing there and nothing to do.
I had never loved something so dear
and for days i let my tears flow
until the realization hit me,
I had to let you go.
- Jessica Millar
.


User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 03 Jan 2005 05:23:21 PM
wrote:

Well, you are the one in favor

When you say "you" to whom are you referring?
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 03 Jan 2005 06:18:29 PM
On 3 Jan 2005 15:20:54 -0800,
said in alt.atheism:

Well, you are the one in favor of pedophelia. I am not in favor of
pedophelia.

No, you're in favor of stupidity.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 03 Jan 2005 05:15:26 PM
By their actions. Their actions agree with your ideas.
Robert b. winn
.
User: "nJb"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 03 Jan 2005 11:26:03 PM
wrote:


By their actions. Their actions agree with your ideas.
Robert b. winn

Who the ***** are you talking to? Yourself?
.

User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 03 Jan 2005 05:19:10 PM
wrote:

By their actions. Their actions agree with your ideas.
Robert b. winn

When you say "their" and "your" to whom are you referring?
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
.


User: ""

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 03 Jan 2005 05:12:14 PM
Well, I am sure you would like to see the police enforce homosexual
acts with children, but they are not that corrupted yet. Give them a
few more years.
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 03 Jan 2005 05:17:21 PM
wrote:

Well, I am sure you would like to see

When you say "you" to whom are you referring? You should leave the message
header intact so that people will know to what, and who you are responding.
Why are you chisters always so stupid?
--
"Only Buddhism is compatible with science. It covers the smallest
particles to the largest creations of the cosmos. It is the only
religion capable of scientific truth."
Albert Einstein
.


User: "Kermit"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 19 Nov 2004 06:22:48 PM
(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411080609.181b4799@posting.google.com>...

quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1bf73d8da6c76ed2989a88@news.individual.net>...

In article <a17e5e0e.0411061809.2424fbd7@posting.google.com>,

says...

quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1bf69a761c33fd9e989a84@news.individual.net>...

In article <a17e5e0e.0411060643.38c1fc71@posting.google.com>,

says...

Well, let's just wait until Christ returns and see what he says then.
Robert B. Winn


Nothing, because he's still dead.


Resurrected. He arose from the tomb on the third day.
Robert B. Winn


That's just a ridiculous story, about as realistic as santa having a
sleigh of toys pulled by magic flying reindeer. Parents tell their kids
that santa is real also, but you need to grow out of that and you need
to grow out of your jesus fixation too.

But as far as the topic of the thread, which appears to have been
discarded long ago, if homosexuality is a "choice" then upon what legal
basis do others presume to take this choice away from an individual?


Well, no one can take away any choice to commit sin.


Sure they can, fool. All they have to do is to make it impossible to
perform certain acts. A choice is not solely a mental selection, but an
action or series of actions going along with it. If some of those
actions are no longer possible then those choices are closed off as
well. One might wish one could do certain things, but that is not the
same thing as being able to choose to do them.

However, suppose
someone chooses to commit the sin of murder.


OKay, I'll suppose that.


Even though they have
made the choice, they are often prevented from committing the actual
sin.


That's because the action very clearly causes harm and loss of rights to
others. As John Stuart Mill argued in _On Liberty_, the only
justification for depriving a person of his liberty should be when his
or her actions might reasonable endanger the rights of others. While
murder clearly does injure the rights of others, it is not clear that
homosexual acts do, at least in general.

By the same token, homosexuals are often prevented from
perpetrating their sin.


But you haven't shown that there is any legitimate justification for
this. You've simply admitted that homosexuals are deprived of
exercising freedoms that you've chosen to label "sins" according to your
ridiculous religious world views.


That is just the way it is.


'Fraid not, *****. Fortunately there is a constitution and a bill of
rights that protects us from assholes like you, who attempt to take away
the rights of others and say, "that is just the way it is" (like you're
some demented bruce hornsby impersonator or something).


Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt to perpetrate the crime of
homosexuality with a child. If the child tells the police about it,
the homosexual is arrested and convicted of the crime, even in an
immoral pro-abortion society like this one. This is just one example
of how a homosexual is prevented from participating in the sin of
homosexuality. That is just the way it is.
Robert B. Winn

So if a heterosexual priest or backwoods preacher wanted to have sex
with a twelve year-old girl, that would be OK with you?
What does statutory rape or child molesting have to do with
homosexuality?
Kermit
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User: "Charles Hawkins"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 08 Nov 2004 11:15:43 AM
Robert B. Winn wrote:

Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt to perpetrate the crime of
homosexuality with a child. If the child tells the police about it,
the homosexual is arrested and convicted of the crime, even in an
immoral pro-abortion society like this one. This is just one example
of how a homosexual is prevented from participating in the sin of
homosexuality. That is just the way it is.
Robert B. Winn

It seems to me that this would be a case of society punishing someone
for participating in the crime of sexual contact with a child - that's
statutory rape. Society would also punish someone who did such a thing
with a child of the opposite sex. The crime here is not homosexuality.
It's sex with a minor, and nobody is arguing that this is acceptable.
Sexual contact between consenting adults is another matter. They are
not violating anybody else's rights.
.
User: "Zinnic"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 09 Nov 2004 01:02:30 PM
Charles Hawkins <chawkin2@NOSPAMwam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:<cmo9k1$pg$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...

Robert B. Winn wrote:

Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt to perpetrate the crime of
homosexuality with a child. If the child tells the police about it,
the homosexual is arrested and convicted of the crime, even in an
immoral pro-abortion society like this one. This is just one example
of how a homosexual is prevented from participating in the sin of
homosexuality. That is just the way it is.
Robert B. Winn


It seems to me that this would be a case of society punishing someone
for participating in the crime of sexual contact with a child - that's
statutory rape. Society would also punish someone who did such a thing
with a child of the opposite sex. The crime here is not homosexuality.
It's sex with a minor, and nobody is arguing that this is acceptable.
Sexual contact between consenting adults is another matter. They are
not violating anybody else's rights.

Out of interest, do you disapprove of any human activity that does not
directly violate anybody else's specific rights? Do you admit of any
such activity that is not 'good' for society in general?
Regards... Zinnic
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 09 Nov 2004 11:44:53 PM
(Zinnic) wrote in message news:<4ce617c0.0411091102.60df3d75@posting.google.com>...

Charles Hawkins <chawkin2@NOSPAMwam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:<cmo9k1$pg$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...

Robert B. Winn wrote:

Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt to perpetrate the crime of
homosexuality with a child. If the child tells the police about it,
the homosexual is arrested and convicted of the crime, even in an
immoral pro-abortion society like this one. This is just one example
of how a homosexual is prevented from participating in the sin of
homosexuality. That is just the way it is.
Robert B. Winn


It seems to me that this would be a case of society punishing someone
for participating in the crime of sexual contact with a child - that's
statutory rape. Society would also punish someone who did such a thing
with a child of the opposite sex. The crime here is not homosexuality.
It's sex with a minor, and nobody is arguing that this is acceptable.
Sexual contact between consenting adults is another matter. They are
not violating anybody else's rights.


Out of interest, do you disapprove of any human activity that does not
directly violate anybody else's specific rights? Do you admit of any
such activity that is not 'good' for society in general?
Regards... Zinnic

I disapprove of abortions. Abortions directly violate the rights of
unborn children. I try to admit of activities that are "good" for
society in general.
For instance, growing food, building houses, etc.
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "Zinnic"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 10 Nov 2004 05:47:09 AM
(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411092144.634d4ee@posting.google.com>...

zeenric2@gate.net (Zinnic) wrote in message news:<4ce617c0.0411091102.60df3d75@posting.google.com>...

Charles Hawkins <chawkin2@NOSPAMwam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:<cmo9k1$pg$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...

Robert B. Winn wrote:

Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt to perpetrate the crime of
homosexuality with a child. If the child tells the police about it,
the homosexual is arrested and convicted of the crime, even in an
immoral pro-abortion society like this one. This is just one example
of how a homosexual is prevented from participating in the sin of
homosexuality. That is just the way it is.
Robert B. Winn


It seems to me that this would be a case of society punishing someone
for participating in the crime of sexual contact with a child - that's
statutory rape. Society would also punish someone who did such a thing
with a child of the opposite sex. The crime here is not homosexuality.
It's sex with a minor, and nobody is arguing that this is acceptable.
Sexual contact between consenting adults is another matter. They are
not violating anybody else's rights.


Out of interest, do you disapprove of any human activity that does not
directly violate anybody else's specific rights? Do you admit of any
such activity that is not 'good' for society in general?
Regards... Zinnic


I disapprove of abortions. Abortions directly violate the rights of
unborn children. I try to admit of activities that are "good" for
society in general.
For instance, growing food, building houses, etc.
Robert B. Winn

I presume that you regard 'anybody' as inclusive of unborn children,
so your disapproval of abortion does not answer my question. Let me be
more specific.
Whose 'rights' are violated by activities such as polygamy,
prostitution, pornography, sexual activity or nakedness in public
places, depiction of violence, panhandling, student truancy,
foxhunting?
Do you approve of societal restriction of these activities?
Regards...Zinnic
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 10 Nov 2004 07:15:02 PM
(Zinnic) wrote in message news:<4ce617c0.0411100347.7f82562e@posting.google.com>...

rbwinn3@juno.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411092144.634d4ee@posting.google.com>...

(Zinnic) wrote in message news:<4ce617c0.0411091102.60df3d75@posting.google.com>...

Charles Hawkins <chawkin2@NOSPAMwam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:<cmo9k1$pg$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...

Robert B. Winn wrote:

Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt to perpetrate the crime of
homosexuality with a child. If the child tells the police about it,
the homosexual is arrested and convicted of the crime, even in an
immoral pro-abortion society like this one. This is just one example
of how a homosexual is prevented from participating in the sin of
homosexuality. That is just the way it is.
Robert B. Winn


It seems to me that this would be a case of society punishing someone
for participating in the crime of sexual contact with a child - that's
statutory rape. Society would also punish someone who did such a thing
with a child of the opposite sex. The crime here is not homosexuality.
It's sex with a minor, and nobody is arguing that this is acceptable.
Sexual contact between consenting adults is another matter. They are
not violating anybody else's rights.


Out of interest, do you disapprove of any human activity that does not
directly violate anybody else's specific rights? Do you admit of any
such activity that is not 'good' for society in general?
Regards... Zinnic


I disapprove of abortions. Abortions directly violate the rights of
unborn children. I try to admit of activities that are "good" for
society in general.
For instance, growing food, building houses, etc.
Robert B. Winn


I presume that you regard 'anybody' as inclusive of unborn children,
so your disapproval of abortion does not answer my question. Let me be
more specific.

Whose 'rights' are violated by activities such as polygamy,
prostitution, pornography, sexual activity or nakedness in public
places, depiction of violence, panhandling, student truancy,
foxhunting?
Do you approve of societal restriction of these activities?
Regards...Zinnic

Society has the right to restrict these activities. People who do not
like the society in which they live should consider moving to
different societies.
Robert B. winn
.
User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 10 Nov 2004 08:09:16 PM
Robert B. Winn wrote:

zeenric2@gate.net (Zinnic) wrote in message news:<4ce617c0.0411100347.7f82562e@posting.google.com>...

rbwinn3@juno.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411092144.634d4ee@posting.google.com>...

zeenric2@gate.net (Zinnic) wrote in message news:<4ce617c0.0411091102.60df3d75@posting.google.com>...

Charles Hawkins <chawkin2@NOSPAMwam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:<cmo9k1$pg$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...

Robert B. Winn wrote:

Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
Suppose that a homosexual were to attempt to perpetrate the crime of
homosexuality with a child. If the child tells the police about it,
the homosexual is arrested and convicted of the crime, even in an
immoral pro-abortion society like this one. This is just one example
of how a homosexual is prevented from participating in the sin of
homosexuality. That is just the way it is.
Robert B. Winn


It seems to me that this would be a case of society punishing someone
for participating in the crime of sexual contact with a child - that's
statutory rape. Society would also punish someone who did such a thing
with a child of the opposite sex. The crime here is not homosexuality.
It's sex with a minor, and nobody is arguing that this is acceptable.
Sexual contact between consenting adults is another matter. They are
not violating anybody else's rights.


Out of interest, do you disapprove