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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Robert B. Winn"
Date: 06 Nov 2004 08:43:01 AM
Object: : Choice and Homosexuality
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2v2r9aF2e7is5U5@uni-berlin.de>...

Robert B. Winn wrote:

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Robert B. Winn wrote:


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Robert B. Winn wrote:



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Robert B. Winn wrote:



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Robert B. Winn wrote:





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Robert B. Winn wrote:






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Robert B. Winn wrote:







--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2u3ursF24v1a2U8@uni-berlin.de>...







Robert B. Winn wrote:








RainLover <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message news:<61cfn0th3elniet2lu2eqkau7cb5afqflf@4ax.com>...








On 20 Oct 2004 15:00:10 -0700,

(Robert B. Winn)
wrote:









Well, I used a definition given by Jesus Christ 2000 years ago. How
do you get that it is a new definition?
Robert B. winn


God defines a Bat as a Bird. It seems God got a few things wrong

what's your point?

James, Seattle



Well, I don't think so.
Robert B. Winn


OK, so how is a bat a bird?



Bats and various kinds of birds and shellfish were on a list of
creatures listed by Moses as being unclean. How are bats and birds
shellfish?
Robert B. Winn


The Bible never said shellfish are birds. It DOES say that bats are
birds. Nice attempt at a dodge. So how are bats birds?



You might want to ask someone in the field of biology. I do not
really care how they are birds.
Robert B. Winn


They aren't.



Well, if you want to eat them, go ahead. The law of Moses was
fulfilled when Christ was born.
Robert B. winn


I don't want to eat them. I want you to explain why God said bats are
birds when he supposedly knew better.



Well, my guess is that the verse was mis-translated.


Kinda like "with child"??

When Moses said



flying creatures, it was translated fowls.
Robert B. Winn



How was with child mistranslated? With child means the same thing as pregnant.
Robert B. Winn


The word "child" did not appear in the original writing. Inserting it is
a mistranslation.



Well, of course, you are welcome to your own opinion. I think it was
translated exactly right.


That's an opinion, and an uneducated one at that, not a fact.

Perhaps after the resurrection we can get

Luke's opinion about the translation.


'Fraid not.
He's staying dead.


Robert B. winn



Well, let's just wait until Christ returns and see what he says then.
Robert B. Winn


Nothing, because he's still dead.

Resurrected. He arose from the tomb on the third day.
Robert B. Winn
.

User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 26 Nov 2004 08:20:41 PM
(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411251726.393fd021@posting.google.com>...

sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411242256.2a8154fb@posting.google.com>...

(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411241949.e8534e5@posting.google.com>...

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<lk28q0hjtp5hau74mundqt6amie97ikhrq@4ax.com>...

On 22 Nov 2004 19:43:33 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<4ggtp05117t72n28q5l92bhsodq0f5hb1e@4ax.com>...


Not by the uneducated, no. Latin phrases, and even whole Latin
sentences, have been used for communication by the educated as
recently as now.


We don't put much stock in it here in the United States. Most people
here speak English.


Most educated people here in the US have at least a passing knowledge
of some Latin phrases. I'm not surprised that someone with a very
poor education (you) would think there's something wrong with using
them.
--

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.
Robert B. Winn


Now that's a laugh. You are nowhere near being the most educated
person in this newsgroup, much less the USA. You display your
ignorance on a regular basis.

Mark Sebree


I was never so ignorant as to say that the Declaration of Independence
is null and void or to start killing children.
Robert B. winn

Nobody has ever accused you of killing anyone. And nobody in this
newsgroup is killing anyone (unless they are fighting in Iraq), much
less killing children.
And the Declaration of Independence is a list of greivances against
King George III of England, and an explanation about why the colonies
are in revolt. If the DOI is still in effect, whom are we revolting
against that has ruled over us and caused us so much oppression, and
whom are we fighting for our independence? To the best of my
knowledge, we have been recognized as an independent nation for over
220 years.
Like I said, you display your ignorance on a regular basis. Usually
in almost every post you make.
Mark Sebree
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 27 Nov 2004 08:17:10 PM
(Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411261820.1e7806c2@posting.google.com>...

(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411251726.393fd021@posting.google.com>...

(Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411242256.2a8154fb@posting.google.com>...

(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411241949.e8534e5@posting.google.com>...

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<lk28q0hjtp5hau74mundqt6amie97ikhrq@4ax.com>...

On 22 Nov 2004 19:43:33 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<4ggtp05117t72n28q5l92bhsodq0f5hb1e@4ax.com>...


Not by the uneducated, no. Latin phrases, and even whole Latin
sentences, have been used for communication by the educated as
recently as now.


We don't put much stock in it here in the United States. Most people
here speak English.


Most educated people here in the US have at least a passing knowledge
of some Latin phrases. I'm not surprised that someone with a very
poor education (you) would think there's something wrong with using
them.
--

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.
Robert B. Winn


Now that's a laugh. You are nowhere near being the most educated
person in this newsgroup, much less the USA. You display your
ignorance on a regular basis.

Mark Sebree


I was never so ignorant as to say that the Declaration of Independence
is null and void or to start killing children.
Robert B. winn


Nobody has ever accused you of killing anyone. And nobody in this
newsgroup is killing anyone (unless they are fighting in Iraq), much
less killing children.

And the Declaration of Independence is a list of greivances against
King George III of England, and an explanation about why the colonies
are in revolt. If the DOI is still in effect, whom are we revolting
against that has ruled over us and caused us so much oppression, and
whom are we fighting for our independence? To the best of my
knowledge, we have been recognized as an independent nation for over
220 years.

Like I said, you display your ignorance on a regular basis. Usually
in almost every post you make.

Mark Sebree

I am revolting against your pro-abortion police state. The
Declaration of Indpendence is the law of the land here in the United
States. You need to take your pro-abortion police state propaganda
back to Europe where it came from.
Robert b. winn
.
User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 28 Nov 2004 08:37:15 PM
(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411271817.4ddd2019@posting.google.com>...

sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411261820.1e7806c2@posting.google.com>...

(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411251726.393fd021@posting.google.com>...

sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411242256.2a8154fb@posting.google.com>...

(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411241949.e8534e5@posting.google.com>...

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<lk28q0hjtp5hau74mundqt6amie97ikhrq@4ax.com>...

On 22 Nov 2004 19:43:33 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<4ggtp05117t72n28q5l92bhsodq0f5hb1e@4ax.com>...


Not by the uneducated, no. Latin phrases, and even whole Latin
sentences, have been used for communication by the educated as
recently as now.


We don't put much stock in it here in the United States. Most people
here speak English.


Most educated people here in the US have at least a passing knowledge
of some Latin phrases. I'm not surprised that someone with a very
poor education (you) would think there's something wrong with using
them.
--

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.
Robert B. Winn


Now that's a laugh. You are nowhere near being the most educated
person in this newsgroup, much less the USA. You display your
ignorance on a regular basis.

Mark Sebree


I was never so ignorant as to say that the Declaration of Independence
is null and void or to start killing children.
Robert B. winn


Nobody has ever accused you of killing anyone. And nobody in this
newsgroup is killing anyone (unless they are fighting in Iraq), much
less killing children.

And the Declaration of Independence is a list of greivances against
King George III of England, and an explanation about why the colonies
are in revolt. If the DOI is still in effect, whom are we revolting
against that has ruled over us and caused us so much oppression, and
whom are we fighting for our independence? To the best of my
knowledge, we have been recognized as an independent nation for over
220 years.

Like I said, you display your ignorance on a regular basis. Usually
in almost every post you make.

Mark Sebree


I am revolting against your pro-abortion police state.

That will be a short revolt. It does not take long to conquer
something that does not exist. I am not the ruler of anything except
my own home and my own life.

The
Declaration of Indpendence is the law of the land here in the United
States.

Wrong. The Constitution of the United States of America is the law of
the land, and has been for almost 220 years. The Declaration of
Independence has never been law, and was never meant to be.
I see that you still do not have any objective supporting evidence for
your absurd claims.

You need to take your pro-abortion police state propaganda
back to Europe where it came from.
Robert b. winn

Sorry, but I cannot take something that does not exist back to
someplace that I have never been.
You need to try to stop lying. You are very bad at it. And the fact
that you are delusional does not help either.
Mark Sebree
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 29 Nov 2004 01:55:30 PM
(Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411281837.417c509a@posting.google.com>...

(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411271817.4ddd2019@posting.google.com>...

(Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411261820.1e7806c2@posting.google.com>...

(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411251726.393fd021@posting.google.com>...

(Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411242256.2a8154fb@posting.google.com>...

(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411241949.e8534e5@posting.google.com>...

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<lk28q0hjtp5hau74mundqt6amie97ikhrq@4ax.com>...

On 22 Nov 2004 19:43:33 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<4ggtp05117t72n28q5l92bhsodq0f5hb1e@4ax.com>...


Not by the uneducated, no. Latin phrases, and even whole Latin
sentences, have been used for communication by the educated as
recently as now.


We don't put much stock in it here in the United States. Most people
here speak English.


Most educated people here in the US have at least a passing knowledge
of some Latin phrases. I'm not surprised that someone with a very
poor education (you) would think there's something wrong with using
them.
--

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.
Robert B. Winn


Now that's a laugh. You are nowhere near being the most educated
person in this newsgroup, much less the USA. You display your
ignorance on a regular basis.

Mark Sebree


I was never so ignorant as to say that the Declaration of Independence
is null and void or to start killing children.
Robert B. winn


Nobody has ever accused you of killing anyone. And nobody in this
newsgroup is killing anyone (unless they are fighting in Iraq), much
less killing children.

And the Declaration of Independence is a list of greivances against
King George III of England, and an explanation about why the colonies
are in revolt. If the DOI is still in effect, whom are we revolting
against that has ruled over us and caused us so much oppression, and
whom are we fighting for our independence? To the best of my
knowledge, we have been recognized as an independent nation for over
220 years.

Like I said, you display your ignorance on a regular basis. Usually
in almost every post you make.

Mark Sebree


I am revolting against your pro-abortion police state.


That will be a short revolt. It does not take long to conquer
something that does not exist. I am not the ruler of anything except
my own home and my own life.

The
Declaration of Indpendence is the law of the land here in the United
States.


Wrong. The Constitution of the United States of America is the law of
the land, and has been for almost 220 years. The Declaration of
Independence has never been law, and was never meant to be.

I see that you still do not have any objective supporting evidence for
your absurd claims.

You need to take your pro-abortion police state propaganda
back to Europe where it came from.
Robert b. winn


Sorry, but I cannot take something that does not exist back to
someplace that I have never been.

You need to try to stop lying. You are very bad at it. And the fact
that you are delusional does not help either.

Mark Sebree

I never lie. The Declaration of Independence is the law of the land
here in the United States.
Robert B. winn
.
User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 29 Nov 2004 05:06:17 PM
(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411291155.57f9f208@posting.google.com>...

sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411281837.417c509a@posting.google.com>...

(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411271817.4ddd2019@posting.google.com>...

sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411261820.1e7806c2@posting.google.com>...

(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411251726.393fd021@posting.google.com>...

sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411242256.2a8154fb@posting.google.com>...

(Robert B. Winn) wrote in message news:<a17e5e0e.0411241949.e8534e5@posting.google.com>...

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<lk28q0hjtp5hau74mundqt6amie97ikhrq@4ax.com>...

On 22 Nov 2004 19:43:33 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<4ggtp05117t72n28q5l92bhsodq0f5hb1e@4ax.com>...


Not by the uneducated, no. Latin phrases, and even whole Latin
sentences, have been used for communication by the educated as
recently as now.


We don't put much stock in it here in the United States. Most people
here speak English.


Most educated people here in the US have at least a passing knowledge
of some Latin phrases. I'm not surprised that someone with a very
poor education (you) would think there's something wrong with using
them.
--

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.
Robert B. Winn


Now that's a laugh. You are nowhere near being the most educated
person in this newsgroup, much less the USA. You display your
ignorance on a regular basis.

Mark Sebree


I was never so ignorant as to say that the Declaration of Independence
is null and void or to start killing children.
Robert B. winn


Nobody has ever accused you of killing anyone. And nobody in this
newsgroup is killing anyone (unless they are fighting in Iraq), much
less killing children.

And the Declaration of Independence is a list of greivances against
King George III of England, and an explanation about why the colonies
are in revolt. If the DOI is still in effect, whom are we revolting
against that has ruled over us and caused us so much oppression, and
whom are we fighting for our independence? To the best of my
knowledge, we have been recognized as an independent nation for over
220 years.

Like I said, you display your ignorance on a regular basis. Usually
in almost every post you make.

Mark Sebree


I am revolting against your pro-abortion police state.


That will be a short revolt. It does not take long to conquer
something that does not exist. I am not the ruler of anything except
my own home and my own life.

The
Declaration of Indpendence is the law of the land here in the United
States.


Wrong. The Constitution of the United States of America is the law of
the land, and has been for almost 220 years. The Declaration of
Independence has never been law, and was never meant to be.

I see that you still do not have any objective supporting evidence for
your absurd claims.

You need to take your pro-abortion police state propaganda
back to Europe where it came from.
Robert b. winn


Sorry, but I cannot take something that does not exist back to
someplace that I have never been.

You need to try to stop lying. You are very bad at it. And the fact
that you are delusional does not help either.

Mark Sebree


I never lie.

You lie all the time. Your statement "I never lie" is itself a lie.

The Declaration of Independence is the law of the land
here in the United States.
Robert B. winn

Wrong. The Declaration of Independence has never been the law of the
land, and it was never meant to be.
The Constitution of the UNited States of America is the law of the
land.
Mark Sebree
.





User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 26 Nov 2004 10:27:32 PM
On 25 Nov 2004 17:26:31 -0800,
(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411242256.2a8154fb@posting.google.com>...

Now that's a laugh. You are nowhere near being the most educated
person in this newsgroup, much less the USA. You display your
ignorance on a regular basis.

I was never so ignorant as to say that the Declaration of Independence
is null and void

Neither was anyone else here. But you WERE ignorant enough to insist
that the Declaration of Independence is the law.

or to start killing children.

No one here has ever killed a child, or even advocated the killing of
children.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
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rukbat at verizon dot net
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 27 Nov 2004 08:15:08 PM
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<lf0gq05hglnqed7vrfcn7vgiub5evekv6r@4ax.com>...

On 25 Nov 2004 17:26:31 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message news:<c30d43e8.0411242256.2a8154fb@posting.google.com>...


Now that's a laugh. You are nowhere near being the most educated
person in this newsgroup, much less the USA. You display your
ignorance on a regular basis.


I was never so ignorant as to say that the Declaration of Independence
is null and void


Neither was anyone else here. But you WERE ignorant enough to insist
that the Declaration of Independence is the law.

or to start killing children.


No one here has ever killed a child, or even advocated the killing of
children.

The Declaration of Independence is the law of the land here in the
United States. You need to take your pro-abortion police state
propaganda back to Europe where it came from.
Robert b. winn
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 27 Nov 2004 10:29:27 PM
On 27 Nov 2004 18:15:08 -0800,
(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

The Declaration of Independence is the law of the land here in the
United States.

Isn't now and never has been - it's not even worded as a law.

You need to take your pro-abortion police state
propaganda back to Europe where it came from.

Aside from the fact that a) abortion wasn't invented in Europe,b) I'm
not European and c) I'm anti-abortion, you're correct.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 29 Nov 2004 01:57:03 PM
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<aukiq0985djphfot28iafkg8716320mfrs@4ax.com>...

On 27 Nov 2004 18:15:08 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

The Declaration of Independence is the law of the land here in the
United States.


Isn't now and never has been - it's not even worded as a law.

You need to take your pro-abortion police state
propaganda back to Europe where it came from.


Aside from the fact that a) abortion wasn't invented in Europe,b) I'm
not European and c) I'm anti-abortion, you're correct.

European pro-abortion police state propaganda does not get anywhere
with me. You need to present your ideas elsewhere.
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 29 Nov 2004 10:59:48 PM
On 29 Nov 2004 11:57:03 -0800,
(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<aukiq0985djphfot28iafkg8716320mfrs@4ax.com>...

Aside from the fact that a) abortion wasn't invented in Europe,b) I'm
not European and c) I'm anti-abortion, you're correct.

European pro-abortion police state propaganda does not get anywhere
with me. You need to present your ideas elsewhere.

Yoo-hoo, Boobert, over here. (I have no idea who you think you're
muttering to over there. Jesus?)
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
.





User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 24 Nov 2004 10:50:02 PM
On 24 Nov 2004 19:49:03 -0800,
(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.

Then you're one of the least educated people in the country.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 25 Nov 2004 07:29:12 PM
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<s1paq05594d8rldfoh190n8en3u9st5q93@4ax.com>...

On 24 Nov 2004 19:49:03 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.


Then you're one of the least educated people in the country.
--

Learning a dead European language does not make you well educated, Al.
You would do better to learn to use a language still being used such
as English.
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 26 Nov 2004 10:30:31 PM
On 25 Nov 2004 17:29:12 -0800,
(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<s1paq05594d8rldfoh190n8en3u9st5q93@4ax.com>...

On 24 Nov 2004 19:49:03 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.


Then you're one of the least educated people in the country.

Learning a dead European language does not make you well educated, Al.

Learning makes one educated. You should learn the meaning of a word
before misusing it.

You would do better to learn to use a language still being used such
as English.

I know English well enough to have taught it and to have been
published in it. That still doesn't make familiarity with a foreign
language useless, even if the foreign language isn't currently used.
Speaking of doing better, you would do better to take your nose out of
your bible and obtain a real education.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
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User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 29 Nov 2004 01:52:44 PM
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<ti0gq05nsi8m0d7bd7cbpsinef6rmt0js9@4ax.com>...

On 25 Nov 2004 17:29:12 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<s1paq05594d8rldfoh190n8en3u9st5q93@4ax.com>...

On 24 Nov 2004 19:49:03 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.


Then you're one of the least educated people in the country.


Learning a dead European language does not make you well educated, Al.


Learning makes one educated. You should learn the meaning of a word
before misusing it.

You would do better to learn to use a language still being used such
as English.


I know English well enough to have taught it and to have been
published in it. That still doesn't make familiarity with a foreign
language useless, even if the foreign language isn't currently used.
Speaking of doing better, you would do better to take your nose out of
your bible and obtain a real education.
--

Thank you very much. I am well aware of all the misinformation being
taught in the school system.
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 29 Nov 2004 10:58:34 PM
On 29 Nov 2004 11:52:44 -0800,
(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Thank you very much. I am well aware of all the misinformation being
taught in the school system.

Mostly in the parochial school system, and mostly in religion classes.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
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rukbat at verizon dot net
.

User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 29 Nov 2004 03:11:10 PM
Robert B. Winn wrote:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<ti0gq05nsi8m0d7bd7cbpsinef6rmt0js9@4ax.com>...

On 25 Nov 2004 17:29:12 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:


Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<s1paq05594d8rldfoh190n8en3u9st5q93@4ax.com>...

On 24 Nov 2004 19:49:03 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:


Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.


Then you're one of the least educated people in the country.




Learning a dead European language does not make you well educated, Al.


Learning makes one educated. You should learn the meaning of a word
before misusing it.


You would do better to learn to use a language still being used such
as English.


I know English well enough to have taught it and to have been
published in it. That still doesn't make familiarity with a foreign
language useless, even if the foreign language isn't currently used.
Speaking of doing better, you would do better to take your nose out of
your bible and obtain a real education.
--


Thank you very much. I am well aware of all the misinformation being
taught in the school system.
Robert B. Winn

Only in religious schools. Try Montessori.
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 27 Nov 2004 03:05:47 PM
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 04:30:31 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On 25 Nov 2004 17:29:12 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<s1paq05594d8rldfoh190n8en3u9st5q93@4ax.com>...

On 24 Nov 2004 19:49:03 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.


Then you're one of the least educated people in the country.


Learning a dead European language does not make you well educated, Al.


Learning makes one educated. You should learn the meaning of a word
before misusing it.

You would do better to learn to use a language still being used such
as English.


I know English well enough to have taught it and to have been
published in it. That still doesn't make familiarity with a foreign
language useless, even if the foreign language isn't currently used.
Speaking of doing better, you would do better to take your nose out of
your bible and obtain a real education.

He might have his nose in the Bible, but he sure doesn't follow the
Ten "Prime Directives."
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 27 Nov 2004 10:27:47 PM
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:05:47 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

He might have his nose in the Bible, but he sure doesn't follow the
Ten "Prime Directives."

They're not part of the "Christian bible". (Cue bagpipes.)
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
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rukbat at verizon dot net
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 28 Nov 2004 12:19:24 PM
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 04:27:47 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:05:47 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

He might have his nose in the Bible, but he sure doesn't follow the
Ten "Prime Directives."


They're not part of the "Christian bible". (Cue bagpipes.)

He doesn't pay attention to what's in the NT, either.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 28 Nov 2004 07:39:45 PM
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:19:24 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 04:27:47 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:05:47 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

He might have his nose in the Bible, but he sure doesn't follow the
Ten "Prime Directives."


They're not part of the "Christian bible". (Cue bagpipes.)


He doesn't pay attention to what's in the NT, either.

Sure he does - the parts he decides he's required to pay attention to.
(Cue second set of pipes.)
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
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rukbat at verizon dot net
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 29 Nov 2004 09:06:12 AM
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:39:45 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:19:24 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 04:27:47 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:05:47 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

He might have his nose in the Bible, but he sure doesn't follow the
Ten "Prime Directives."


They're not part of the "Christian bible". (Cue bagpipes.)


He doesn't pay attention to what's in the NT, either.


Sure he does - the parts he decides he's required to pay attention to.
(Cue second set of pipes.)

Point. And only as long as they serve his purpose.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.







User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 25 Nov 2004 08:12:25 AM
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:50:02 -0600, Al Klein wrote
(in article <s1paq05594d8rldfoh190n8en3u9st5q93@4ax.com>):

On 24 Nov 2004 19:49:03 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.


Then you're one of the least educated people in the country.

Hell, I got a pretty good grounding in Latin in grade school, of course I was
raised Catholic back in the 50's, most of us in those schools did learn at
least some Latin.
I see that Winn is one of those "I learned all I need to learn in grade
school, and I see no reason to learn anything more" people.
Used cat litter has more brains than whatever is in his skull.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"You think atoms like having a half-life?"
Incenjucar
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 25 Nov 2004 07:49:19 PM
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:12:25 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> said in alt.atheism:

Hell, I got a pretty good grounding in Latin in grade school, of course I was
raised Catholic back in the 50's, most of us in those schools did learn at
least some Latin.
I see that Winn is one of those "I learned all I need to learn in grade
school, and I see no reason to learn anything more" people.

Probably "in pre-school" since, as you said, Latin was taught in grade
school.

Used cat litter has more brains than whatever is in his skull.

And probably smells better.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
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rukbat at verizon dot net
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 25 Nov 2004 12:00:05 PM
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:12:25 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:50:02 -0600, Al Klein wrote
(in article <s1paq05594d8rldfoh190n8en3u9st5q93@4ax.com>):

On 24 Nov 2004 19:49:03 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.


Then you're one of the least educated people in the country.


Hell, I got a pretty good grounding in Latin in grade school, of course I was
raised Catholic back in the 50's, most of us in those schools did learn at
least some Latin.

I see that Winn is one of those "I learned all I need to learn in grade
school, and I see no reason to learn anything more" people.

Used cat litter has more brains than whatever is in his skull.

True.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
User: "Robert B. Winn"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 25 Nov 2004 07:25:12 PM
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in message news:<oc7cq0h7ccbp62cehqt48j24hb6qjqipf0@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:12:25 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:50:02 -0600, Al Klein wrote
(in article <s1paq05594d8rldfoh190n8en3u9st5q93@4ax.com>):

On 24 Nov 2004 19:49:03 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.


Then you're one of the least educated people in the country.


Hell, I got a pretty good grounding in Latin in grade school, of course I was
raised Catholic back in the 50's, most of us in those schools did learn at
least some Latin.

I see that Winn is one of those "I learned all I need to learn in grade
school, and I see no reason to learn anything more" people.

Used cat litter has more brains than whatever is in his skull.


True.

Well, here is proof of what I say. Two educated people talking to
each other in Latin. Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make
a strong statement.
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 26 Nov 2004 10:54:13 AM
On 25 Nov 2004 17:25:12 -0800,
(Robert B. Winn)
wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in message news:<oc7cq0h7ccbp62cehqt48j24hb6qjqipf0@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:12:25 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:50:02 -0600, Al Klein wrote
(in article <s1paq05594d8rldfoh190n8en3u9st5q93@4ax.com>):

On 24 Nov 2004 19:49:03 -0800,

(Robert B. Winn) said
in alt.atheism:

Actually, I am probably the best educated person in the United States.
I know almost no Latin.


Then you're one of the least educated people in the country.


Hell, I got a pretty good grounding in Latin in grade school, of course I was
raised Catholic back in the 50's, most of us in those schools did learn at
least some Latin.

I see that Winn is one of those "I learned all I need to learn in grade
school, and I see no reason to learn anything more" people.

Used cat litter has more brains than whatever is in his skull.


True.

Well, here is proof of what I say. Two educated people talking to
each other in Latin.

What the ***** are you drooling about now, oh brainless one? Free
clue, oh liar for jesus, the singular word 'true' is not Latin.

Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make
a strong statement.

And the depths of your profanity goes to the far reaches of the
galaxy.

Robert B. Winn

--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 27 Nov 2004 08:35:09 PM
Robert D. Winn said:
Piggy-backing

Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make
a strong statement.

And what exactly was this "profanity" I used?
My comment was the following:

Hell, I got a pretty good grounding in Latin in grade school, of course I

was

raised Catholic back in the 50's, most of us in those schools did learn at
least some Latin.

I see that Winn is one of those "I learned all I need to learn in grade
school, and I see no reason to learn anything more" people.

Used cat litter has more brains than whatever is in his skull.

Point out my profanity.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
Cthulhu saves our souls and redeems them for valuable coupons later.
.
User: "Mark rogerpearse.caneatmy.smegma"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 29 Nov 2004 06:02:44 AM
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:35:09 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:

Robert D. Winn said:

Piggy-backing

Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make
a strong statement.


And what exactly was this "profanity" I used?

My comment was the following:

Hell, I got a pretty good grounding in Latin in grade school, of course I

was

raised Catholic back in the 50's, most of us in those schools did learn at
least some Latin.

I see that Winn is one of those "I learned all I need to learn in grade
school, and I see no reason to learn anything more" people.

Used cat litter has more brains than whatever is in his skull.


Point out my profanity.

"cat litter."
Glad I could help <humor>
.
User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 29 Nov 2004 12:20:29 PM
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:02:44 -0600, Mark wrote
(in article <du3mq0p79pfnuiddlsbuhhhptlp5dm403u@4ax.com>):

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:35:09 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:

Robert D. Winn said:

Piggy-backing

Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make
a strong statement.


And what exactly was this "profanity" I used?

My comment was the following:

Hell, I got a pretty good grounding in Latin in grade school, of course
I

was

raised Catholic back in the 50's, most of us in those schools did learn
at
least some Latin.

I see that Winn is one of those "I learned all I need to learn in grade
school, and I see no reason to learn anything more" people.

Used cat litter has more brains than whatever is in his skull.


Point out my profanity.


"cat litter."

Glad I could help <humor>

Yeah, someone who thinks like Ashcroft would probably think that "cat" is
profanity, and therefore any word containing "cat" is also profane.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"I've heard myself say a lot of vocal things, but I've never heard myself
think." - Duke32
.
User: "Mark rogerpearse.caneatmy.smegma"

Title: Re: : Choice and Homosexuality 29 Nov 2004 04:04:27 PM
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:20:29 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:02:44 -0600, Mark wrote
(in article <du3mq0p79pfnuiddlsbuhhhptlp5dm403u@4ax.com>):

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:35:09 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:

Robert D. Winn said:

Piggy-backing

Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make
a strong statement.


And what exactly was this "profanity" I used?

My comment was the following:

Hell, I got a pretty good grounding in Latin in grade school, of course
I

was

raised Catholic back in the 50's, most of us in those schools did learn
at
least some Latin.

I see that Winn is one of those "I learned all I need to learn in grade
school, and I see no reason to learn anything more" people.

Used cat litter has more brains than whatever is in his skull.


Point out my profanity.


"cat litter."

Glad I could help <humor>


Yeah, someone who thinks like Ashcroft would probably think that "cat" is
profanity, and therefore any word containing "cat" is also profane.

It's Liberal code for "overthrow the budget."
But sssshhhh... don't tell anyone.
.










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