Science > Abortion > 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!!
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14 Jan 2008 09:28:31 AM |
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300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out! Keep the damn population down! There are too many bloody
children in the world as it is!
GO CHINA!!!!!
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
14 Jan 2008 09:42:45 AM |
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Jerry Kraus wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out!
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure. Everyone in China
knows the limits and the consequences of exceeding those limits.
The government in this arena has shown good foresight realizing that their
population is not sustainable especially considering the goals for per
capita income growth.
Keep the damn population down! There are too many bloody
children in the world as it is!
GO CHINA!!!!!
GFY
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| User: "M_P" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
15 Jan 2008 11:13:03 AM |
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On Jan 14, 9:42 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out!
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure. Everyone in China
knows the limits and the consequences of exceeding those limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from "Tie 'em
down, and rip 'em out!"?
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
15 Jan 2008 12:02:18 PM |
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M_P wrote:
On Jan 14, 9:42 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out!
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure. Everyone
in China knows the limits and the consequences of exceeding those
limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from "Tie 'em
down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped out". I know
that decisions like this by a central authority are anathema to people who
value personal freedom. No American wants that...except anti-abortionists.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
15 Jan 2008 12:23:42 PM |
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:HOidnftNguiyaBHanZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@giganews.com...
M_P wrote:
On Jan 14, 9:42 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out!
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure. Everyone
in China knows the limits and the consequences of exceeding those
limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from "Tie 'em
down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped out". I
know that decisions like this by a central authority are anathema to
people who value personal freedom. No American wants that...except
anti-abortionists.
I was listening to NPR yesterday on the way home from work and the person
being interviewed was an abortion doctor who had written an book. When
asked "Did you ever perform an abortion on a pro-choice activist?", her
reply was "Many, many times." So, here are these people that picket
abortion clinics who have had abortions themselves in the very same clinic!
What a bunch of hypocrites.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
15 Jan 2008 01:28:39 PM |
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On Jan 15, 1:23=A0pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:HOidnftNguiyaBHanZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@giganews.com...
M_P wrote:
On Jan 14, 9:42 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:
All right!!! =A0That's the way to do it! =A0Tie 'em down, and rip 'em=
out!
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure. Everyone
in China knows the limits and the consequences of exceeding those
limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from "Tie 'em
down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped out". I
know that decisions like this by a central authority are anathema to
people who value personal freedom. No American wants that...except
anti-abortionists.
I was listening to NPR yesterday on the way home from work and the person
being interviewed was an abortion doctor who had written an book. =A0When
asked "Did you ever perform an abortion on a pro-choice activist?", her
reply was "Many, many times." =A0So, here are these people that picket
abortion clinics who have had abortions themselves in the very same clinic=
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What a bunch of hypocrites.
The only moral abortion is my abortion. Take a look at this:
http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
15 Jan 2008 02:08:06 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
I was listening to NPR yesterday on the way home from work and the
person being interviewed was an abortion doctor who had written an
book. When asked "Did you ever perform an abortion on a pro-choice
activist?", her reply was "Many, many times." So, here are these
people that picket abortion clinics who have had abortions themselves
in the very same clinic! What a bunch of hypocrites.
Pro-choice advocates are picketing abortion clinics? That *is* hypocritical!
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
15 Jan 2008 03:36:48 PM |
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Lr-dnbjWqOA2jxDanZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@giganews.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
I was listening to NPR yesterday on the way home from work and the
person being interviewed was an abortion doctor who had written an
book. When asked "Did you ever perform an abortion on a pro-choice
activist?", her reply was "Many, many times." So, here are these
people that picket abortion clinics who have had abortions themselves
in the very same clinic! What a bunch of hypocrites.
Pro-choice advocates are picketing abortion clinics? That *is*
hypocritical!
Oh ding dang it! I meant to type pro-life! Duh! :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
16 Jan 2008 10:27:01 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Lr-dnbjWqOA2jxDanZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@giganews.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
I was listening to NPR yesterday on the way home from work and the
person being interviewed was an abortion doctor who had written an
book. When asked "Did you ever perform an abortion on a pro-choice
activist?", her reply was "Many, many times." So, here are these
people that picket abortion clinics who have had abortions
themselves in the very same clinic! What a bunch of hypocrites.
Pro-choice advocates are picketing abortion clinics? That *is*
hypocritical!
Oh ding dang it! I meant to type pro-life! Duh! :)
Yeah...I didn't think it was really worth making Talk of the Nation as
posted. ;-)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
16 Jan 2008 10:55:34 AM |
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:mJidnQxV2NrErRPanZ2dnUVZ_uOmnZ2d@giganews.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Lr-dnbjWqOA2jxDanZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@giganews.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
I was listening to NPR yesterday on the way home from work and the
person being interviewed was an abortion doctor who had written an
book. When asked "Did you ever perform an abortion on a pro-choice
activist?", her reply was "Many, many times." So, here are these
people that picket abortion clinics who have had abortions
themselves in the very same clinic! What a bunch of hypocrites.
Pro-choice advocates are picketing abortion clinics? That *is*
hypocritical!
Oh ding dang it! I meant to type pro-life! Duh! :)
Yeah...I didn't think it was really worth making Talk of the Nation as
posted. ;-)
Goodness, no! ;)
I did like the part of the interview where the abortion doctor said that if
the pro-lifer seeking the abortion told them that after having the
procedure, they'd be right back out protesting, that she would refuse to do
the procedure on them and refer them to another clinic.
I guess that ones that continue to protest outside the clinic either weren't
recognized and questioned or outright lied.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "M_P" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
15 Jan 2008 12:06:52 PM |
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On Jan 15, 12:02 pm, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
M_P wrote:
On Jan 14, 9:42 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out!
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure. Everyone
in China knows the limits and the consequences of exceeding those
limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from "Tie 'em
down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped out".
Then how are the limits enforced?
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
15 Jan 2008 02:05:59 PM |
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M_P wrote:
On Jan 15, 12:02 pm, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
M_P wrote:
On Jan 14, 9:42 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out!
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure. Everyone
in China knows the limits and the consequences of exceeding those
limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from "Tie 'em
down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped out".
Then how are the limits enforced?
A surgical procedure or pharmaceuticals as best as I can guess. Hope that
clears things up for you.
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| User: "M_P" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
16 Jan 2008 09:55:51 AM |
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On Jan 15, 2:05 pm, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
M_P wrote:
On Jan 15, 12:02 pm, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
M_P wrote:
On Jan 14, 9:42 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out!
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure. Everyone
in China knows the limits and the consequences of exceeding those
limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from "Tie 'em
down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped out".
Then how are the limits enforced?
A surgical procedure or pharmaceuticals as best as I can guess. Hope that
clears things up for you.
So "Tie 'em down, and rip 'em out!", while hyperbolic and tendentious,
is far from a "complete mischaracterization."
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
16 Jan 2008 10:23:16 AM |
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M_P wrote:
On Jan 15, 2:05 pm, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
M_P wrote:
On Jan 15, 12:02 pm, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
M_P wrote:
On Jan 14, 9:42 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip
'em out!
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure.
Everyone in China knows the limits and the consequences of
exceeding those limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from "Tie
'em down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped
out".
Then how are the limits enforced?
A surgical procedure or pharmaceuticals as best as I can guess. Hope
that clears things up for you.
So "Tie 'em down, and rip 'em out!", while hyperbolic and tendentious,
is far from a "complete mischaracterization."
You're right. What was I thinking? Calling a complete mischaracterization
just doesn't capture the essence of the statement. It's a worthless polemic.
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| User: "M_P" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
16 Jan 2008 10:39:55 AM |
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On Jan 16, 10:23 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
M_P wrote:
On Jan 15, 2:05 pm, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
M_P wrote:
On Jan 15, 12:02 pm, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
M_P wrote:
On Jan 14, 9:42 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip
'em out!
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure.
Everyone in China knows the limits and the consequences of
exceeding those limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from "Tie
'em down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped
out".
Then how are the limits enforced?
A surgical procedure or pharmaceuticals as best as I can guess. Hope
that clears things up for you.
So "Tie 'em down, and rip 'em out!", while hyperbolic and tendentious,
is far from a "complete mischaracterization."
You're right. What was I thinking? Calling a complete mischaracterization
just doesn't capture the essence of the statement. It's a worthless polemic.
A forced surgical removal is disturbingly close to "Tie 'em down, and
rip 'em out" for anyone with a conscience.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
16 Jan 2008 11:34:20 AM |
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M_P wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip
'em out!\
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure.
Everyone in China knows the limits and the consequences of
exceeding those limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from "Tie
'em down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped
out".
Then how are the limits enforced?
A surgical procedure or pharmaceuticals as best as I can guess.
Hope that clears things up for you.
So "Tie 'em down, and rip 'em out!", while hyperbolic and
tendentious, is far from a "complete mischaracterization."
You're right. What was I thinking? Calling a complete
mischaracterization just doesn't capture the essence of the
statement. It's a worthless polemic.
A forced surgical removal is disturbingly close to "Tie 'em down, and
rip 'em out" for anyone with a conscience.
Aye, but how's the haggis? The bagpipes are lovely, aren't they?
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
21 Jan 2008 01:18:33 AM |
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Geoff wrote:
M_P wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip
'em out!\
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure.
Everyone in China knows the limits and the consequences of
exceeding those limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from
"Tie 'em down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped
out".
Then how are the limits enforced?
A surgical procedure or pharmaceuticals as best as I can guess.
Hope that clears things up for you.
So "Tie 'em down, and rip 'em out!", while hyperbolic and
tendentious, is far from a "complete mischaracterization."
You're right. What was I thinking? Calling a complete
mischaracterization just doesn't capture the essence of the
statement. It's a worthless polemic.
A forced surgical removal is disturbingly close to "Tie 'em down, and
rip 'em out" for anyone with a conscience.
Aye, but how's the haggis? The bagpipes are lovely, aren't they?
I figured that would leave the putz speechless.
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| User: "M_P" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
22 Jan 2008 10:57:33 AM |
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On Jan 21, 1:18 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Geoff wrote:
M_P wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip
'em out!\
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure.
Everyone in China knows the limits and the consequences of
exceeding those limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from
"Tie 'em down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped
out".
Then how are the limits enforced?
A surgical procedure or pharmaceuticals as best as I can guess.
Hope that clears things up for you.
So "Tie 'em down, and rip 'em out!", while hyperbolic and
tendentious, is far from a "complete mischaracterization."
You're right. What was I thinking? Calling a complete
mischaracterization just doesn't capture the essence of the
statement. It's a worthless polemic.
A forced surgical removal is disturbingly close to "Tie 'em down, and
rip 'em out" for anyone with a conscience.
Aye, but how's the haggis? The bagpipes are lovely, aren't they?
I figured that would leave the putz speechless.
k00k ravings usually do. Proud of yourself, k00k?
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
22 Jan 2008 01:50:12 PM |
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M_P wrote:
On Jan 21, 1:18 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Geoff wrote:
M_P wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and
rip 'em out!\
Complete mischaracterization of the policy and procedure.
Everyone in China knows the limits and the consequences of
exceeding those limits.
And how are those consequences substantively different from
"Tie 'em down, and rip 'em out!"?
Precisely because no one is "tied down" and nothing is "ripped
out".
Then how are the limits enforced?
A surgical procedure or pharmaceuticals as best as I can guess.
Hope that clears things up for you.
So "Tie 'em down, and rip 'em out!", while hyperbolic and
tendentious, is far from a "complete mischaracterization."
You're right. What was I thinking? Calling a complete
mischaracterization just doesn't capture the essence of the
statement. It's a worthless polemic.
A forced surgical removal is disturbingly close to "Tie 'em down,
and rip 'em out" for anyone with a conscience.
Aye, but how's the haggis? The bagpipes are lovely, aren't they?
I figured that would leave the putz speechless.
k00k ravings usually do. Proud of yourself, k00k?
Ah...not speechless, yet mindless.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
15 Jan 2008 12:39:31 PM |
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On 14 jan, 16:28, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
All right!!! =A0That's the way to do it! =A0Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out! =A0Keep the damn population down! =A0There are too many bloody
children in the world as it is!
GO CHINA!!!!!
It is word involuntary that I mind here.
And it is not as if China is a democracy
Now if all Chinese together decide there are enough of them,
that would be a bit different of course.
But I still would not like the word involuntary
GO Chinese Gangleaders GO!
Peter van Velzen
January 2008
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
14 Jan 2008 08:37:21 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:28:31 -0800 (PST), Jerry Kraus
<jkraus_1999@yahoo.com> wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out! Keep the damn population down! There are too many bloody
children in the world as it is!
GO CHINA!!!!!
As if you stupid christians are first in line promoting population
control.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
16 Jan 2008 03:14:09 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:37:21 -0800, Steve Knight wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:28:31 -0800 (PST), Jerry Kraus
<jkraus_1999@yahoo.com> wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out! Keep the damn population down! There are too many bloody
children in the world as it is!
GO CHINA!!!!!
As if you stupid christians are first in line promoting population
control.
Don't know about Christians in general, but the pope seems to be leading
the brigade.
Consider his condemnation of condoms in some of the poorest places on
earth (well, presumably they're condemned everywhere, but consider those
places for the moment).
Those places seem to have, among other problems, rampant AIDS epidemics.
By *not* using condoms, the disease spreads. This leads, inevitably, to
many more people dying, thereby reducing the population.
See? They *are* promoting population control; they're just using some
distasteful tactics to do it.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
20 Jan 2008 09:36:04 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:28:31 -0800 (PST), Jerry Kraus
<jkraus_1999@yahoo.com> wrote:
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out! Keep the damn population down! There are too many bloody
children in the world as it is!
GO CHINA!!!!!
What an *****.
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| User: "Jerry Kraus" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
22 Jan 2008 11:14:49 AM |
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On Jan 20, 9:36=A0pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:28:31 -0800 (PST), Jerry Kraus
<jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
All right!!! =A0That's the way to do it! =A0Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out! =A0Keep the damn population down! =A0There are too many bloody
children in the world as it is!
GO CHINA!!!!!
What an *****.
Well, at least I'm not as bad as the bible-thumpers and the baby
machines. They're destroying the planet. I'm not.
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| User: "Jerry Kraus" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
22 Jan 2008 09:57:37 AM |
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On Jan 20, 9:36=A0pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:28:31 -0800 (PST), Jerry Kraus
<jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
All right!!! =A0That's the way to do it! =A0Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out! =A0Keep the damn population down! =A0There are too many bloody
children in the world as it is!
GO CHINA!!!!!
What an *****.
Well, maybe. But I'm not as bad as the whores and fools who are
destroying the planet through overpopulation!
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: 300,000,000 involuntary abortions in China, 1994-2004!!!!!! |
14 Jan 2008 01:41:34 PM |
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Thank the Chinese for producing 300,000,000 fewer Chinese!
"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2f707532-6421-4d85-978c-626b18a63b20@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
All right!!! That's the way to do it! Tie 'em down, and rip 'em
out! Keep the damn population down! There are too many bloody
children in the world as it is!
GO CHINA!!!!!
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