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hehe
"Lars Eighner" <> wrote in message
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In our last episode,
<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
the lovely and talented Robert Meyers
broadcast on alt.atheism:
STOP KILLING BABIES
***** yourself, liar.
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Rev. Lars Eighner, ULC, Atheist #1965
http://www.io.com/~eighner
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STOP KILLING BABIES
My King (All Hail King Torg!) commands and I obey. I ignore
commands from humans with the same zeal that you ignore
commands from chicken mcnuggets.
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STOP KILLING BABIES
My King (All Hail King Torg!) commands and I obey. I ignore
commands from humans with the same zeal that you ignore
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You defy the great McNugget!? Blasphemer!
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:19:27 +0000, Frank Dwyer wrote:
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commands from chicken mcnuggets.
You defy the great McNugget!? Blasphemer!
OUch....The fabulous 'Frenchie Fry(tm)' will make short work of the
blighter.......
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In talk.abortion, stoney
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STOP KILLING BABIES
My King (All Hail King Torg!) commands and I obey. I ignore
commands from humans with the same zeal that you ignore
commands from chicken mcnuggets.
You defy the great McNugget!? Blasphemer!
OUch....The fabulous 'Frenchie Fry(tm)' will make short work of the
blighter.......
I thought it was the Fry Guys. Is that a different sect?
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18 Jul 2004 11:09:20 AM |
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In our last thrilling episode, (Robert
Meyers) was pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on 17 Jul 2004
19:40:02 -0700 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:
STOP KILLING BABIES
There are over 100,000 children waiting to be adopted in the US. How
amny have you taken in?
rec.photo.digital snipped.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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18 Jul 2004 03:23:52 PM |
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In talk.abortion, Robert Meyers
<robertmeyers@mailinator.com>
wrote
on 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700
<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>:
STOP KILLING BABIES
rec.photo.digital?
Followups redirected exclusively to talk.abortion.
Time to ramble, methinks. The problem with the above is
that it's a very broad attack -- and, as it turns out,
a very ineffective one.
[1] The foetus is a developmental stage in the gestation of
a human being/baby/individual. While one can state
that it has life at the moment of conception (and life
before: the egg and sperm both exhibit signs thereof),
it is clear that there are many problems with that
particular position; the chief one is that the life is
not well-defined. We don't know if that life will be
a top-notch scientist, a muddled-headed pointy-haired
manager, a moron, an evil scientist working under
Hitler's replacement, or a replacement for Idi Amin.
The nature vs. nurture argument is apparently evolving
in favor of nature but there are many aspects
of nurture that have to be accounted for, infant
mortality from starvation among them. For its part,
nature has not been completely decoded, although I for
one would think work is progressing in that direction.
(The Human Genome has identified the genes, but what
is their expression -- the phenotype, AIUI?)
[2] The life of an individual -- assuming a broadening
of the term for the purpose of this paragraph --
develops continuously, from before birth (I'm not
sure when at this point; see [1]) to some time just
before death. It is far from clear to me when Ronald
Reagan actually died as an individual, if only because
Alzheimer's robbed his mind of much of, if not all of,
his intelligence/mentality. Is living as a vegetable
living? Not that it matters to him or his family;
his body passed away on 2004-06-05 and his funeral
was rather elaborate, as befitting a President.
Adieu, sir.
Terry Schiavo is another example. AFAIK, her body's
still alive. I doubt her funeral will be quite as
elaborate as President Reagan's.
A number of individuals portray themselves as
"born-again". While I'm not exactly sure what that
means (I'm an atheist and am generally suspicious
of things religious), it is clear that, prior to the
"birth-again", the individual was different from the
individual after the event. Of course, from a trivial
standpoint I'm different from what I was 5 minutes ago;
some skin cells fell off, my bowels may have moved
slightly, I breathed in some air, etc. It may depend
on the measurement metric. (Argument regarding this
subpoint probably belongs in another group, such as
alt.atheism or talk.atheism.) However, one problem is
that one cannot conclude that since
0.00 =~ 0.01 =~ 0.02 ... =~ 0.98 =~ 0.99 =~ 1.00, that
0.00 =~ 1.00.
A foetus develops far more quickly than a baby, as
it turns out. However, I'd have to look regarding
exact weight gains, and such are approximate anyway,
as each gestation is slightly different. I believe
on average, however, babies are getting bigger.
(Ouch.)
[3] A woman's life is her own. A number of individuals,
of course, suggest that so is the foetus', and there
is some merit to that view, but the problem is that
abortion resolves a very fundamental conflict: which
one's worth more? They cannot be worth the same,
mostly because they aren't the same (the woman is much
bigger in physical size, her mind is working (in most
cases; at least one baby was born to a clinically dead
patient kept on life support!) and she is eating,
drinking, breathing, etc. for two, a feat the foetus
will not be able to accomplish until 15+-years hence or
so if all goes well and the foetus is the appropriate
gender).
Also, it is far from clear that anyone should decide
for her regarding whether she should continue what
to her may be a bit of a burden (15+-pounds worth,
*not* including Junior or Missy, at the very end),
though a doctor who knows of her situation might be
able to give her advice and/or an intelligent opinion.
I'm not sure I can, since I'm not a doctor, though I
might be able to speak regarding the general case.
There are a number of conditions that may require, from
a medical standpoint, abrupt termination of the pregnancy.
Eclampsia is one that comes to mind; self-strangulation
of the foetus is another.
[5] God is, or is not, or what not. I know not. I doubt
if anyone else does, either. However, one can believe
as one wishes; the trouble is that the born-again
pro-life contingent has one belief, and the woman may
very well have another. While propaganda is OK and
expected, interference probably is not.
Also, at least here in the US, law should reflect
secular issues, not delve into religious ones (absent
such issues as fraud, of course). An interesting
misreading of Amendment I would have us all
worshipping, say, Roman Catholicism (the Amendment
merely states we shouldn't *establish* a religion,
but doesn't explicitly say anything about following
an existing one). However, "or prohibit the free
exercise thereof" may preclude Roman Catholicism, who
in the past has persecuted heretics. Ditto for Islam,
who in the past has persecuted infidels.
If the US must pursue a religion, it would have to be
extremely inclusive, from the relative laid-back Wicca
(AFAIK the only requirement there is to dance to the
full moon in the nude -- presumably that can be done
in one's bedroom) to some extremely perverse ancient
Aztec rituals, which among other things required blood
sacrifices. (One hopes that, as they're practiced
today, the only blood shed at such sacrifices is the
woman's as her hymen is broken during a relatively
gentle sex act -- and only if she says yes and fully
comprehends what is to happen. AIUI, that's a bit
painful but nowhere near as painful as having a knife
plunged into one's solar plexus at the midnight hour.)
[6] The definition of baby may be irrelevant here, in light
of [4] or [5]. While society should do what it can
(which may not be much!) to avoid abortion -- one
particularly promising area is in the realm of birth
control and proper instruction as to sexual activity
and all consequences thereof (which include but are not
limited to jealousy, pregnancy, and possessiveness) --
it's clear that the baby is the woman's responsibility,
and society should allow her to at least have some
say in its continued existence, assuming that one
can apply the term "baby" to an unborn entity, a
philosophical hair-split that's probably too fine to
continue meaningfully pursuing.
[7] If one is requiring that the woman go through an
ordeal lasting 8 1/2 months which has a 1 in 13,000
or so chance of ending her life, then it may stand
to reason (at least, if one employs a doctrine of
reciprocity) that the individual requiring such an
ordeal go through similar privations. Since there's no
real analogue to pregnancy suitable for males the best
one can do perhaps is list the known symptoms for a
"typical" case:
- strange cravings
- morning sickness
- weight gain
- various hormonal ups and downs
- labor pains (at the very end)
and the probabilities of the non-typical cases, such
as the aforementioned eclampsia, strangulation of the
foetus, and Rh-positive/negative mismatch/complications.
I'm not sure what to recommend regarding females who
have undergone menopause and thence go "right-to-life".
[8] With the possible exception of a very few, AFAIK no one
in here is a medical doctor and is actively engaged
in abortions, or for that matter infant-murder.
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18 Jul 2004 09:01:49 AM |
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On 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700, (Robert
Meyers) wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION...
You know, I agree with you! My biology classes taught me something -
hammered it in, actually: Life is a cycle. The cycle of life includes
the fetus. It also includes the sperm and the egg, by the way.
But my feelings on the matter is that it's a life that belongs to the
woman carrying it - and she has the right to stop carrying it if she
so chooses..
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Alex
atheist #2007
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17 Jul 2004 09:56:50 PM |
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On 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700, (Robert
Meyers) wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
O.K. just stop being crazy!
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18 Jul 2004 01:30:12 AM |
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On 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700, (Robert Meyers)
wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
EVERY SPERM IS SACRED!
---------
Archdeacom Levy Oates
On behalf of the Prophet Eric Peabody (pbuh)
Basingstoke, England
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/bumblism/
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18 Jul 2004 12:01:22 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700, Robert Meyers wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
(sigh) What an ignoramous.
(flush)
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19 Jul 2004 06:17:35 AM |
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700, Robert Meyers wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
FETUS != BABY
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MarkA
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19 Jul 2004 10:28:05 AM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700, Robert Meyers wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
FETUS != BABY
I guess the next step would be to lock up anyone "Spanking Frank", for
killing potential ova fertilizing sperm. You religious sickos don't know
when to stop, do you.
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20 Jul 2004 03:02:39 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:28:05 +0000, Hagar wrote:
Ummm....Hagar, wouldn't it be better to voice your complaint to the
religious sicko who started the thread?
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700, Robert Meyers wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
FETUS != BABY
I guess the next step would be to lock up anyone "Spanking Frank", for
killing potential ova fertilizing sperm. You religious sickos don't know
when to stop, do you.
Thread originator:
From: (Robert Meyers)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion,alt.atheism,rec.photo.digital
Subject: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION
Date: 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700
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Regards,
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24 Jul 2004 06:15:03 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:28:05 +0000, Hagar wrote:
Ummm...Hagar, the religious sicko originator of the drivel thread is:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700, Robert Meyers wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
FETUS != BABY
I guess the next step would be to lock up anyone "Spanking Frank", for
killing potential ova fertilizing sperm. You religious sickos don't know
when to stop, do you.
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24 Jul 2004 06:15:17 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:28:05 +0000, Hagar wrote:
Ummm...Hagar, the religious sicko originator of the drivel thread is:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700, Robert Meyers wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
FETUS != BABY
I guess the next step would be to lock up anyone "Spanking Frank", for
killing potential ova fertilizing sperm. You religious sickos don't know
when to stop, do you.
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Tell this to the abortion people. Why send it to digital photo people?
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700, Robert Meyers wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
FETUS != BABY
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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20 Jul 2004 02:59:01 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:45:13 -0500, Rick wrote:
Tell this to the abortion people. Why send it to digital photo people?
Hey Rick;
If you're going to complain, you might send the complaint to the thread
originator. Originator is listed below.
From: (Robert Meyers)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion,alt.atheism,rec.photo.digital
Subject: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION
Date: 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700
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Regards.
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700, Robert Meyers wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
FETUS != BABY
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MarkA
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Robert Meyers wrote:
STOP KILLING BABIES
In the event you are not a troll, I suggest you should change your
argument.
Some people believe the fetus is a life, or a human life at the moment
of conception and others don't. Your saying it is one or the other is not
going to change someone's opinion or belief. Since I have yet to find
anyone who can prove it one way or the other (some offer arguments, even
good arguments, but none offer a logical proof) you really need to face that
reality.
I tend to take the tack that the fetus MAY be human life. From that
follows that it should be protected just as a good hunter will protect
children when they see motion in the brush, but can't identify it, they
don't attempt to kill it.
--
Joseph E. Meehan
26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math
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17 Jul 2004 10:47:26 PM |
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TROLL.
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<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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TROLL.
I believe that abortion is murder - though my belief in this is only swayed
by the thought that murdering trolls might be considered the right thing to
do. But how can you tell? Maybe there's a troll gene?
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17 Jul 2004 11:48:03 PM |
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"ned" <no@nospam.com> wrote in message
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<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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TROLL.
I believe that abortion is murder - though my belief in this is only
swayed
by the thought that murdering trolls might be considered the right thing
to
do. But how can you tell? Maybe there's a troll gene?
You're welcome to beleive all you want and to troll all you want in
alt.abortion.
Troll.
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| User: "Gene Palmiter" |
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| Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION |
18 Jul 2004 05:56:33 AM |
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I take offense! I am Gene...and not very attractive and I live in a basement
apartment....BUT I AM NOT A TROLL!
"ned" <no@nospam.com> wrote in message
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<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:ipmKc.13282$qb4.8460@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
TROLL.
I believe that abortion is murder - though my belief in this is only
swayed
by the thought that murdering trolls might be considered the right thing
to
do. But how can you tell? Maybe there's a troll gene?
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION |
23 Jul 2004 08:59:34 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 10:56:33 +0000, Gene Palmiter wrote:
I take offense! I am Gene...and not very attractive and I live in a basement
apartment....BUT I AM NOT A TROLL!
Hmmm.... (big grin) Do you eat goats?
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION |
23 Jul 2004 09:02:31 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 04:19:23 +0000, ned wrote:
<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:ipmKc.13282$qb4.8460@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
TROLL.
I believe that abortion is murder - though my belief in this is only swayed
by the thought that murdering trolls might be considered the right thing to
do. But how can you tell? Maybe there's a troll gene?
First, I'm going to mention your belief is your own, and you're
welcome to it, before I comment on it.
Murder is that which is done to a life form which has exited the
'construction site.'
Based on 'abortion=murder' pregnancy=slavery.
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