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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Robert Meyers"
Date: 17 Jul 2004 09:40:02 PM
Object: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION
STOP KILLING BABIES
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User: "Mizzyandrea"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 03:53:22 PM
A fetus is a fetus........it has no rights
It can't be deducted as a "child" on income taxes. It cannot own or inheret
property.....It cannot have a passport....It cannot have a social security
number.
It's nothing.......
Just like what occupies the skull of the moron who started this thread.
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User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 10:09:18 PM
"Robert Meyers" <robertmeyers@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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STOP KILLING BABIES

Nitwit. Keep your religious poison out of alt.atheism.
<<PLONK!>>
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User: "Rick"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 19 Jul 2004 12:12:59 AM
this message has nothing to do with digital photo. Why post it there?
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"Robert Meyers" <robertmeyers@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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STOP KILLING BABIES


Nitwit. Keep your religious poison out of alt.atheism.

<<PLONK!>>


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User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 08:59:29 AM
(Robert Meyers) writes:

STOP KILLING BABIES

Nice of you to use an unsecured server in Taiwan to whine at us, "Robert". If
you're so sure of what you're screeching, call the cops.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 19 Jul 2004 05:54:43 PM
(Robert Meyers) wrote in
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STOP KILLING BABIES

NO
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User: "Woden wodencharternet"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 17 Jul 2004 10:36:20 PM
(Robert Meyers) wrote in
news:1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com:

STOP KILLING BABIES

Why, don't you think it would be even less humane to roast them for dinner
while still alive?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.

User: "Dave"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 01:26:12 PM
(Robert Meyers) wrote in message news:<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>...

STOP KILLING BABIES

Ah, the rec.photo.digital asswipe troll.
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User: "Pavil Natanovich"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 19 Jul 2004 12:30:47 AM
(Robert Meyers) wrote in message news:<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>...

STOP KILLING BABIES

I'm sure by now half a dozen others will have already corrected some
of your misconceptions, but I hope my efforts don't exactly match
theirs.
A fetus does not form at conception. What forms instead is a zygote.
This divides again and again, forming a blastocyst. Eventually the
blastocyst may implant in the uterine wall, where it can develop into
an embryo. Often as not it simply passes out of the body altogether.
Did life begin at the moment sperm and egg united? Hardly, as both
individual cells were undoubtedly already alive. We can "kill" a
sperm cell, and prevent it from forming a zygote. We can also coax
other cells into dividing and forming an embryo, and another complete
copy of the single parent. There are various methods for doing this,
all of which are called "cloning."
We can take these cells and chill them, placing them into suspended
animation. We can freeze embryos and implant them into another
host--a rabbit, a cow, or another human being. So far as I know human
beings have not been carried in vivo in other mammals, but I do know
that sheep and cows have carried rabbits, and vice versa. I do not
believe cows have yet carried rabbits to term, but who knows? Rabbits
have carried calf embryos that were subsequently successfully
transplanted and delivered by cows.
Is a frozen embryo alive? What if I intend to find a willing host,
but just never do? What about the embryo? Should I be convicted of
murder if I let it thaw outside a host? Suppose I harvest a woman's
eggs, and ejaculate upon them. No doubt numerous conceptions will
occur. Suppose I then spread this gooey mess upon a rye cracker and
eat it. Am I a mass murderer? What ought to be done with me?
Beluga caviar (sturgeon roe) can cost nearly as much, egg for egg, as
the freshly harvested eggs of some third world women--maybe even more.
I'm not trying to promote a new cuisine, I'm just exploring ideas
here. You pro-life goof balls are going to have to snap out of it and
wake up into the real world some day. The illogical and outmoded
conceptions to which you continue to cling are a fancy long passed.
In the new world there is artificial insemination, in vitro
fertilization, preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD), somatic gene
transfer, chorionic villa sampling (CVS), and other reproductive
technologies. Twenty years ago a woman gave birth not to her
daughter, but to her granddaughter. Since then well over ten thousand
human beings have been conceived in a laboratory, instead of the usual
way--two hot and sweaty drunken teenagers copulating in the backseat
of a junker automobile.
Some day we hope every child will be born by design, and indeed, most
will be thoughfully designed. Until then, abortion will be an
inevitable consequence for failed contraception or other unplanned,
unintended pregnancy. Not all unplanned pregnancies will or should be
aborted, but those where the woman is not ready, prepared, or willing
to become a mother should. If you are pregnant, and refuse to give up
IV drugs, alcohol, smoking, or other activities that might pose a risk
to your developing fetus, I hope to God you would abort rather than
give birth to some deformed, defective, low-birth weight crack addled
infant. Not every woman who can conceive should become a mother.
Most of those who shouldn't, fortunately do not. They have an
out--abortion. And while abortion remains predominantly safe and
legal, these women will not be required to resort to far riskier
means, as they did in the dark past to which you pro-birthers would so
dearly love to return.
The world has changed, and for the better. Learn to live with it.
.
User: "Rick"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 19 Jul 2004 10:44:27 AM
This has nothing to do with digitial photo. Please delete all references in
the address bar.
"Pavil Natanovich" <pasha582@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote in message

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STOP KILLING BABIES


I'm sure by now half a dozen others will have already corrected some
of your misconceptions, but I hope my efforts don't exactly match
theirs.

A fetus does not form at conception. What forms instead is a zygote.
This divides again and again, forming a blastocyst. Eventually the
blastocyst may implant in the uterine wall, where it can develop into
an embryo. Often as not it simply passes out of the body altogether.

Did life begin at the moment sperm and egg united? Hardly, as both
individual cells were undoubtedly already alive. We can "kill" a
sperm cell, and prevent it from forming a zygote. We can also coax
other cells into dividing and forming an embryo, and another complete
copy of the single parent. There are various methods for doing this,
all of which are called "cloning."

We can take these cells and chill them, placing them into suspended
animation. We can freeze embryos and implant them into another
host--a rabbit, a cow, or another human being. So far as I know human
beings have not been carried in vivo in other mammals, but I do know
that sheep and cows have carried rabbits, and vice versa. I do not
believe cows have yet carried rabbits to term, but who knows? Rabbits
have carried calf embryos that were subsequently successfully
transplanted and delivered by cows.

Is a frozen embryo alive? What if I intend to find a willing host,
but just never do? What about the embryo? Should I be convicted of
murder if I let it thaw outside a host? Suppose I harvest a woman's
eggs, and ejaculate upon them. No doubt numerous conceptions will
occur. Suppose I then spread this gooey mess upon a rye cracker and
eat it. Am I a mass murderer? What ought to be done with me?

Beluga caviar (sturgeon roe) can cost nearly as much, egg for egg, as
the freshly harvested eggs of some third world women--maybe even more.
I'm not trying to promote a new cuisine, I'm just exploring ideas
here. You pro-life goof balls are going to have to snap out of it and
wake up into the real world some day. The illogical and outmoded
conceptions to which you continue to cling are a fancy long passed.
In the new world there is artificial insemination, in vitro
fertilization, preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD), somatic gene
transfer, chorionic villa sampling (CVS), and other reproductive
technologies. Twenty years ago a woman gave birth not to her
daughter, but to her granddaughter. Since then well over ten thousand
human beings have been conceived in a laboratory, instead of the usual
way--two hot and sweaty drunken teenagers copulating in the backseat
of a junker automobile.

Some day we hope every child will be born by design, and indeed, most
will be thoughfully designed. Until then, abortion will be an
inevitable consequence for failed contraception or other unplanned,
unintended pregnancy. Not all unplanned pregnancies will or should be
aborted, but those where the woman is not ready, prepared, or willing
to become a mother should. If you are pregnant, and refuse to give up
IV drugs, alcohol, smoking, or other activities that might pose a risk
to your developing fetus, I hope to God you would abort rather than
give birth to some deformed, defective, low-birth weight crack addled
infant. Not every woman who can conceive should become a mother.
Most of those who shouldn't, fortunately do not. They have an
out--abortion. And while abortion remains predominantly safe and
legal, these women will not be required to resort to far riskier
means, as they did in the dark past to which you pro-birthers would so
dearly love to return.

The world has changed, and for the better. Learn to live with it.

.


User: "Michael P Gabriel"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 07:45:14 AM
(Robert Meyers) wrote in message news:<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>...

STOP KILLING BABIES

Jeremiah, mouthing God's words, said..."I KNEW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE BORN"!!!
Should that not be sufficient?
.
User: "Woden wodencharternet"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 09:40:18 AM
(Michael P Gabriel) wrote in
news:a20043.0407180445.fba6796@posting.google.com:

robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote in message
news:<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>...

STOP KILLING BABIES


Jeremiah, mouthing God's words, said..."I KNEW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE
BORN"!!! Should that not be sufficient?

And what do ancient myths have to do with whether a fetus is "human" life
or not?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 11:11:19 AM
In our last thrilling episode,
(Michael P Gabriel)
was pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on 18 Jul 2004 05:45:14
-0700 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:

robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote in message news:<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>...

STOP KILLING BABIES


Jeremiah, mouthing God's words, said..."I KNEW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE BORN"!!!
Should that not be sufficient?

Close to half of all human preganacies fail. Did you know that?
Usually in the first 24 hours. They ztgote fails to sucessfully
implant, or the zygote isn't viable, or whatever.
So, accroding to you, God kills half the babies on Earth.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.

User: "Puck Greenman"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 04:13:08 PM
On 18 Jul 2004 05:45:14 -0700,
(Michael P Gabriel)
with calm deliberation, and malace aforethought, wrote:

robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote in message news:<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>...

STOP KILLING BABIES


Jeremiah, mouthing God's words, said..."I KNEW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE BORN"!!!

Not exactly what Jeremiah said; is it?
From reading the whole verse,
(JER 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before
thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained
thee a prophet unto the nations.)
I am inclined to the opinion, that he could equally have said, "I knew
you before your father was born".
Jeremiah was saying that god knows everything that was, is, or will
be, that he knew Jeremiah, before he was conceived; not that a foetus
is a baby.
Do try a little honesty, in your arguments.
Puck Greenman

#162

BAAWA Knight.

Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 11:49:24 AM
On 18 Jul 2004 05:45:14 -0700,
(Michael P Gabriel)
wrote:

robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote in message news:<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>...

STOP KILLING BABIES


Jeremiah, mouthing God's words, said..."I KNEW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE BORN"!!!
Should that not be sufficient?

So, if I found an ancient book of myths that said that life begins at
seven years, you would support infanticide? Maybe like Aztec or
Klingon. Why not? You present your book of myths as proof for others
to take as fact. Why would you not accept others' books of myths?
Seems disingenuous to me. No, I'm sure it doesn't to you. Your book of
fiction supports your preconceived (no pun intended) notion of
"truth." Therefore, everyone else is wrong.
I mean, you *do* realize that is what the bible is, right? A book
written by humans to control the behavior of other humans, right? It's
pathetic that people still believe that a god wrote it. LOL
Hey!... according to this book:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764191519/qid=1090167077/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/104-2205612-6094309?v=glance&s=books

Life begins at 50!
Think of the possibilities that opens up!
--
zamboni
#2139
Denigrator of Theists
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 11:21:34 PM
<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ht8lf0l2cejadbpda3abo4p1ut2qarht34@4ax.com...

On 18 Jul 2004 05:45:14 -0700,

(Michael P Gabriel)
wrote:

robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote in message

news:<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>...

STOP KILLING BABIES


Jeremiah, mouthing God's words, said..."I KNEW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE

BORN"!!!

Should that not be sufficient?

======================
Sufficient for what?
--
Flower Power...
pro-choice (pr-chois)
adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Pro-Choice
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 20 Jul 2004 03:05:28 PM
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 05:45:14 -0700, Michael P Gabriel wrote:

robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote in message news:<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>...

STOP KILLING BABIES


Jeremiah, mouthing God's words, said..."I KNEW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE BORN"!!!
Should that not be sufficient?

Sufficient for what? Fetus does not equal baby. "God" has no problem
with abortion, murder, ignorance, or theft. Anything that occurs is, by
definition, part of the 'divine plan' and for a 'greater good.'
Then again, fictional characters are irrelevant and immaterial to people
who aren't too terrified to think.
.
User: "Joseph Meehan"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 20 Jul 2004 03:47:04 PM
stoney wrote:

"God" has no problem
with abortion, murder, ignorance, or theft. Anything that occurs is,
by definition, part of the 'divine plan' and for a 'greater good.'

An interesting point of view.
--
Joseph E. Meehan
26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 22 Jul 2004 04:38:09 PM
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:47:04 +0000, Joseph Meehan wrote:

stoney wrote:

"God" has no problem
with abortion, murder, ignorance, or theft. Anything that occurs is,
by definition, part of the 'divine plan' and for a 'greater good.'


An interesting point of view.

Observation, not pov, Joseph. The two sentences are supported by 'The
Bible.' The second sentence is also supported by what christians say. :\
Rgds,
.




User: "Don Kresch"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 07:58:02 AM
In alt.atheism on 17 Jul 2004 19:40:02 -0700,
robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) let us all know that:

STOP KILLING BABIES

Hypocrite. I'll bet you, like most humans (including myself), eat
meat.
Don
---
aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 11:47:35 PM
In article <1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
(Robert Meyers) wrote:

STOP KILLING BABIES

Get a brain.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 20 Jul 2004 03:06:11 PM
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:47:35 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote:

STOP KILLING BABIES


Get a brain.

"God" said 'no.'
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 21 Jul 2004 12:17:52 AM
In article <pan.2004.07.20.20.06.10.506776@localhost.localdomain>,
"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:47:35 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote:

STOP KILLING BABIES


Get a brain.


"God" said 'no.'

Maybe Gourd gave him one of the beta test versions with all of the
bugs still in it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
.
User: "Puck Greenman"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 21 Jul 2004 11:20:53 AM
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:17:52 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
with calm deliberation, and malace aforethought, wrote:

In article <pan.2004.07.20.20.06.10.506776@localhost.localdomain>,
"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:47:35 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote:

STOP KILLING BABIES


Get a brain.


"God" said 'no.'


Maybe Gourd gave him one of the beta test versions with all of the
bugs still in it.

A Microsoft brain. The production model has more bugs than the Beta.
Puck Greenman

#162

BAAWA Knight.

Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 22 Jul 2004 12:15:34 AM
In article <je4tf098r12bu7tdvbifm1rv18jkjkcqhu@4ax.com>,
Puck Greenman <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:17:52 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
with calm deliberation, and malace aforethought, wrote:

In article <pan.2004.07.20.20.06.10.506776@localhost.localdomain>,
"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:47:35 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote:

STOP KILLING BABIES


Get a brain.


"God" said 'no.'


Maybe Gourd gave him one of the beta test versions with all of the
bugs still in it.


A Microsoft brain. The production model has more bugs than the Beta.
Puck Greenman


Except that in the production release. Micro$ux calls them features
and charges extra.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 21 Jul 2004 01:37:59 PM
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:17:52 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <pan.2004.07.20.20.06.10.506776@localhost.localdomain>,
"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:47:35 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote:

STOP KILLING BABIES


Get a brain.


"God" said 'no.'


Maybe Gourd gave him one of the beta test versions with all of the
bugs still in it.

Internet Explorer.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 22 Jul 2004 12:14:04 AM
In article <pan.2004.07.21.18.37.56.779623@localhost.localdomain>,
"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:17:52 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <pan.2004.07.20.20.06.10.506776@localhost.localdomain>,
"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:47:35 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote:

STOP KILLING BABIES


Get a brain.


"God" said 'no.'


Maybe Gourd gave him one of the beta test versions with all of the
bugs still in it.


Internet Explorer.

Internet Destroyer?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 22 Jul 2004 04:38:44 PM
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:14:04 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <pan.2004.07.21.18.37.56.779623@localhost.localdomain>,
"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:17:52 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <pan.2004.07.20.20.06.10.506776@localhost.localdomain>,
"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:47:35 -0700, johac wrote:

In article <1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
robertmeyers@mailinator.com (Robert Meyers) wrote:

STOP KILLING BABIES


Get a brain.


"God" said 'no.'


Maybe Gourd gave him one of the beta test versions with all of the
bugs still in it.


Internet Explorer.


Internet Destroyer?

Yes. That is how it explores.
.






User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 18 Jul 2004 04:17:01 AM
In article <1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
(Robert Meyers) wrote:

STOP KILLING BABIES

I haven't killed any babies... except by using a condom. Oh, and I have
in fact engaged in onanism. I guess that'll be the next target, once the
pill is outlawed, eh?
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User: "Lars Eighner"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 17 Jul 2004 09:44:10 PM
In our last episode,
<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
the lovely and talented Robert Meyers
broadcast on alt.atheism:

STOP KILLING BABIES

***** yourself, liar.
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: A FETUS IS A LIFE AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION 23 Jul 2004 09:04:04 PM
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 21:44:10 -0500, Lars Eighner wrote:

In our last episode,
<1694137e.0407171840.7fb1efff@posting.google.com>,
the lovely and talented Robert Meyers
broadcast on alt.atheism:

STOP KILLING BABIES


***** yourself, liar.

/robert meyers
"Hello, Snapon Tools(tm)?
I need a few extensions and swivels...."
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