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User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj"
Date: 09 Nov 2005 04:48:13 AM
Object: ABORTION FETUS PAIN BILL PASSES
Abortion Fetus Pain Bill Passed in Wis.
By J. R. Ross
Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
Wednesday, November 9, 2005
Madison, Wis. (AP) - Doctors would have to tell women
seeking abortions in their 20th week of pregnancy or
later that their fetuses might feel pain - an assertion
debated in the medical community - under a bill passed by
Wisconsin lawmakers.
Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat, promised to veto the
legislation, which the Assembly passed 61-34 Tuesday and
the Senate passed earlier.
''Medical decisions should be made by you and your
doctor, not you, your doctor and the Legislature,'' said
Doyle spokesman Dan Leistikow.
Women seeking abortions in Wisconsin must receive
information on alternatives to ending their pregnancies
and must wait 24 hours after a counseling session to have
the procedure.
The bill would add a new requirement for women at least
20 weeks pregnant: Doctors would have to say the fetuses
have the physical structures necessary to experience pain
and that abortions can cause substantial pain to a fetus.
Supporters say some research supports those assertions;
critics say none has been proven.
''Some of us want people to know so they think before
they do something that they will regret for the rest of
their life,'' said Assembly Speaker John Gard, R-
Peshtigo. ''I don't think it's too much to ask.''
Three states have similar requirements and federal
legislation is pending in Congress, the National
Conference of State Legislatures said.
Rep. Sheldon Wasserman, a gynecologist and obstetrician,
said most major medical associations oppose the
legislation.
''The medical authorities say it's junk,'' said
Wasserman, D-Milwaukee.
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On the Net:
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: ABORTION FETUS PAIN BILL PASSES 09 Nov 2005 07:43:24 AM
Dr. Jai Maharaj <usenet@mantra.com> wrote:

Abortion Fetus Pain Bill Passed in Wis.

By J. R. Ross
Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
Wednesday, November 9, 2005

Madison, Wis. (AP) - Doctors would have to tell women
seeking abortions in their 20th week of pregnancy or
later that their fetuses might feel pain - an assertion
debated in the medical community - under a bill passed by
Wisconsin lawmakers.

Not only do politicians lie to people, they even pass laws forcing
others to lie.

Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat, promised to veto the
legislation, which the Assembly passed 61-34 Tuesday and
the Senate passed earlier.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Reasoned Insanity"

Title: Re: ABORTION FETUS PAIN BILL PASSES 09 Nov 2005 04:15:19 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dksuds$2h0$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Dr. Jai Maharaj <usenet@mantra.com> wrote:

Abortion Fetus Pain Bill Passed in Wis.

By J. R. Ross
Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
Wednesday, November 9, 2005

Madison, Wis. (AP) - Doctors would have to tell women
seeking abortions in their 20th week of pregnancy or
later that their fetuses might feel pain - an assertion
debated in the medical community - under a bill passed by
Wisconsin lawmakers.


Not only do politicians lie to people, they even pass laws forcing
others to lie.

Care to back that up or is "lie" the only word you know? Or are you just
going to accuse me of lying too?

Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat, promised to veto the
legislation, which the Assembly passed 61-34 Tuesday and
the Senate passed earlier.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: ABORTION FETUS PAIN BILL PASSES 10 Nov 2005 12:01:59 PM
Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

Dr. Jai Maharaj <usenet@mantra.com> wrote:

Abortion Fetus Pain Bill Passed in Wis.

By J. R. Ross
Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
Wednesday, November 9, 2005

Madison, Wis. (AP) - Doctors would have to tell women
seeking abortions in their 20th week of pregnancy or
later that their fetuses might feel pain - an assertion
debated in the medical community - under a bill passed by
Wisconsin lawmakers.


Not only do politicians lie to people, they even pass laws forcing
others to lie.


Care to back that up or is "lie" the only word you know?

"an assertion debated in the medical community"
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.


User: "Mimi Cohen"

Title: Re: ABORTION FETUS PAIN BILL PASSES 09 Nov 2005 05:57:44 PM
Ray Fischer wrote:

Dr. Jai Maharaj <usenet@mantra.com> wrote:

Abortion Fetus Pain Bill Passed in Wis.

By J. R. Ross
Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
Wednesday, November 9, 2005

Madison, Wis. (AP) - Doctors would have to tell women
seeking abortions in their 20th week of pregnancy or
later that their fetuses might feel pain - an assertion
debated in the medical community - under a bill passed by
Wisconsin lawmakers.



Not only do politicians lie to people, they even pass laws forcing
others to lie.

and call themselves xians and pretend a moral superiority that doesn't
exist!
.


User: "ThongSmoker"

Title: Re: ABORTION FETUS PAIN BILL PASSES 10 Nov 2005 09:30:22 PM
Then lets all admit that babies feel pain when they are born, much more pain
than when they are aborted.
"Dr. Jai Maharaj" <usenet@mantra.com> wrote in message
news:20051109004714fuUQU0962OGVke@RfuO...

Abortion Fetus Pain Bill Passed in Wis.

By J. R. Ross
Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
Wednesday, November 9, 2005

Madison, Wis. (AP) - Doctors would have to tell women
seeking abortions in their 20th week of pregnancy or
later that their fetuses might feel pain - an assertion
debated in the medical community - under a bill passed by
Wisconsin lawmakers.

Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat, promised to veto the
legislation, which the Assembly passed 61-34 Tuesday and
the Senate passed earlier.

''Medical decisions should be made by you and your
doctor, not you, your doctor and the Legislature,'' said
Doyle spokesman Dan Leistikow.

Women seeking abortions in Wisconsin must receive
information on alternatives to ending their pregnancies
and must wait 24 hours after a counseling session to have
the procedure.

The bill would add a new requirement for women at least
20 weeks pregnant: Doctors would have to say the fetuses
have the physical structures necessary to experience pain
and that abortions can cause substantial pain to a fetus.

Supporters say some research supports those assertions;
critics say none has been proven.

''Some of us want people to know so they think before
they do something that they will regret for the rest of
their life,'' said Assembly Speaker John Gard, R-
Peshtigo. ''I don't think it's too much to ask.''

Three states have similar requirements and federal
legislation is pending in Congress, the National
Conference of State Legislatures said.

Rep. Sheldon Wasserman, a gynecologist and obstetrician,
said most major medical associations oppose the
legislation.

''The medical authorities say it's junk,'' said
Wasserman, D-Milwaukee.
- - -
On the Net:
State Legislature: http://www.legis.state.wi.us

More at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5402629,00.html

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Om Shanti

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The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.

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