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10 Jan 2004 08:43:49 PM |
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| User: "Me" |
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| Title: Re: abortion is sin |
12 Jan 2004 12:41:54 PM |
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In article <QL2Mb.30876$WQ3.30351@lakeread05>,
"Rev. Don Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote:
Helpless babies deserve to be protected from those who want to murder them.
Abortion does not take a baby's life so the premise of your statement
is invalid. I agree that helpless babies need to be protected from those
who would murder them, as well as those who would stand by and watch
them starve to death in abject poverty. There are 1,500 kids in Iran
who were orphanned last month as a result of that severe earthquake.
Many helpless children lost their lives in Iraq at the hands of American
military due to President Bush's uncalled for war there. Hundreds of
thousands of children are starving to death in Africa due to their
parents having died of AIDS. What are you doing to help these helpless
kids?
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| User: "Echo2Drs" |
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| Title: Re: abortion is sin |
11 Jan 2004 08:49:40 PM |
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In response to "abortion is a sin" here is my first document. I hope you get
some meaning out of it, and God bless you!
Our Real Body and Our Physical Body
(An Explanation of Both)
Basically you have two bodies and walk in two different planes, (dimensions).
The physical or material (matter, flesh, animal) is not your real body. It is
the body you see everyday when you look in a mirror or catch a glimpse of in a
store window. The material body is an animal body. And just like the animals
and plants, requires elements from the earth to sustain itself, because it is
of organic material. For example: food, water, shelter, air, sleep and Sunlight
Etc. If one of these elements is taken away or denied, or if diseases invade
the physical body, or the case of murder or suicide, the animal body [flesh]
will die. As plants and other animals do from some of these circumstances.
You have a spiritual body [soul]. It is your real body. You cannot see it,
because it is in another dimension, but it is definitely there. It is the
thinking process, reasoning, intelligence, common sense, intuition, (sixth
sense) emotions, personality, sense of humor, ego and pride, [you, me]. It
requires love, laughter, experience of life, companionship with others and
companionship with God. It never dies even if these elements are taken away, or
denied. It never experiences diseases or death. It is immortal, as God Himself
is immortal. It cannot be murdered. The spiritual body is a portion of God, and
you cannot destroy God, or a portion of God. (You and me are that portion).
These two bodies communicate with each other through the central nervous
system. When the material body (flesh) is hungry, hurting, cold or hot, the
message is sent to the material brain (matter the one you can see); the
material brain sends a message to the spiritual thinking process,(spiritual
brain, the one you cannot see) the thinking process sends a message to the
material brain to feed the material body, or to do whatever it takes to make
the material body more comfortable. In other words, the spiritual body and
spiritual brain (soul) controls the physical body and physical brain (flesh).
Sometimes the connection between the two bodies is broken, such as an accident
or illness. An example of this would be a spinal injury. The spiritual brain
cannot communicate with the brain to "move the legs or arms." The spiritual
brain can "think" about moving the arm or leg and inform the physical brain, to
move the arm or leg, but the physical body cannot respond.
Sometimes the spiritual body is broken from the material body for other
reasons. I want a new car, I want a new house. Etc. Not considering how you're
going to get it. Not considering your financial circumstances. Or consider the
rights and feelings of others. I want power, I am smarter than anybody else, I
am more attractive than anybody else (the thought process becomes distorted
with ego). I idolize rock stars, movie stars, rap stars and ballplayers.
Idolatry can take any form. Even sex can fall into this category. (In these
cases the material body "takes over" the spiritual body. Distortion has come
over the mind, and the material body has taken over the spiritual body with its
ego, pride and idolizing. The end result of all of these is self-destruction.
If the proper control isn't held over the material body [flesh], the results
can be devastating as well.
This is where Mark of the Beast comes in. The flesh body (animal-beast) has
taken over the spiritual body. Earthly appetites have dulled the senses.
The Spiritual Body (Thinking Process)
A newborn baby's brain doesn't have a thinking process. It hasn't experienced
or loved to form a personality. Most of its day is spent sleeping, eating and
expelling wastes (material, animal body). The parents have to do the thinking
(spiritual mind) for it. However, in only a short time, the baby realizes it
can get its needs (and wants) met if it cries. This is the first thinking
process. (The spiritual mind starts to awaken).
A baby, as well as an adult, learn and experience its world through the five
senses. Taste, Touch, Smell, Sight and Hearing. They touch, see, smell and
taste objects, (they are always putting things in their mouth) (experiencing)
them forming an opinion about them. The baby begins to recognize its parents,
and begins to experience love. It hears words and begins to talk. It begins to
realize certain words mean certain things. (Reasoning). In another words, it
begins to associate the object it can see with the word it was called. Example:
baby sees an object ball, hears the word ball and begins to associate the two;
and begins to form opinions.
Throughout our life we use these five senses to experience our world and
others around us; sometimes for the good, sometimes for the bad. When we see a
friend or loved one whom we haven't seen in many years, we are overwhelmed with
[emotion]. When we hear their voice, it is joy to our ears.
Someone tells a funny joke, you hear it and laugh. Is the physical mind
actually laughing or is the spiritual mind? (The spiritual mind of course) The
physical body and physical mind (brain) is organic matter. It cannot do
anything without a command from the spiritual mind. Example: a car won't go
without the driver, and tools will not work without the worker. Another example
would be telling a dead body a funny joke. Does it laugh? (I hope not!) The
answer is no, because the spiritual body has left or abandoned (stepped out of)
the physical body. The spiritual mind reasons out what is being said. In other
words the spiritual mind is doing the communication and reasoning.
As Mr. Edgar Cayce said, Mind is ever the builder. Take the great inventors for
example, the inventions they create is first in their mind, an idea, before the
invention even exists. Or the great composers, the music is in the mind, an
idea, before an instrument is picked up. An idea (Reasoning) is the mind of the
spiritual body. Then comes the communication or command to the physical body to
create what's in the mind-the idea.
When we smell a bouquet of fresh cut flowers, (forming an opinion, if the
flowers smell good or bad) it is pleasure or disgust to our nose. (Mind
controls sense of smell)
When we taste the fried chicken and mashed potatoes with gravy, (forming an
opinion, if the food is good or bad) it excites or repulses the taste buds.
(Mind controls taste)
When we see a carnival ride (forming an opinion, excited or scared) we can't
wait to get on or off. (Mind controls sight)
When we hear music (forming an opinion, makes us happy or is too loud) it
excites us or makes us want to find a quieter place. (Mind controls hearing)
So from the physical body to the spiritual body, these five senses make up our
thought process, reasoning, emotions and sense of humor. [You and me]
In other words: ears do not hear without mind, eyes do not see without mind,
mouth cannot taste without mind, hands do not feel without mind, and nose doe
not smell without mind.
The Five Senses and the Character of the Person
The five senses develop the character of a soul [you, me] for good or for bad.
Example 1: If a husband sees his wife carrying a heavy load of groceries, he
responds by taking away some of the burden. He helps by carrying some of the
sacks for her. (The spiritual mind is working to do good), but if he is out in
the world, sees an attractive woman (experiencing temptation, or maybe a better
translation testing), and thinks about committing adultery against his wife,
the spiritual mind is working for bad. If the man rejects the temptation, (or
passes the test), then there is no further resulting outcome that follows.
However, if the man pursues the temptation, (fails the test), it brings on the
laws of Karma, Karma is the law of cause and effect. A kind of "if this is
true, than the result is this." Or, this + this = this. It effects all of us,
whether we realize it or not. In other words if the husband commits adultery,
than the result would be a weakening in his relationship with his wife,
separation or even a divorce. Even if there is no divorce or separation, it
will take the wife a long time to trust him again. Which would cause future
conflicts in the marriage itself. (This is the result of Karma, the law of
cause and effect.)
Example 2: You find a purse with the owner's name in it. But, it also contains
a lot of money! Do you keep the money or do you return the purse with all the
contents to the proper owner? (Your mind) [Thought process] conscious (wrestles
with itself). You instinctually know the right thing to do (Good thought
process) but the other half is thinking what it could buy with all that money.
(Bad thought process) The spiritual body is wrestling with the physical body.
(Material-matter) It could buy something that would excite one of the five
senses, something you could see, taste, smell, hear and feel. (A new TV,
stereo, down payment on a swimming pool, a trip to a good restaurant and even
drugs or alcohol)
Example 3: You have just been promoted at your job. You have new duties, and
one of those duties involves supervising or being boss over others. There are
some that would take this new position honorably and wisely, and do what is
best for the company and workers. But, there are some that would take this
situation and start the "ego trip."(The spiritual body becomes contaminated
with pride). And replaces the word "boss," with the word "bully." The result is
no regard for the feelings (emotion) or rights of others.
Obviously, these are just a few examples I thought of. The list goes on and on
and on…anyone of you [your mind thinking process] could think of many, many
more, when you consider all of your experiences and interactions with others,
and your experiences as a whole, here in this Earth plane. (Dimension)
As Mr. Cayce said, we really are the sum total of what we have ever loved or
hated, (good or bad), (hated bad and loved the good, or hated good and loved
the bad) every action, and every thought. And what we do with them. This is the
gift God gives to us, called our "Free Will." With our free will we learn our
lessons, (sometimes the hard way) and some never learn at all, this time
around.
When the Two Bodies Part (When the flesh body dies)
When the physical body "dies," (the body you can see) it returns to the
ground, as the organic material it was always meant to be. As with the other
animal bodies and plants also do the same.
The spiritual body, the real [you, me] abandons, leaves or steps out of the
physical body. You cannot see this happen because, as I mentioned before, it
is, and has always been in a different dimension, and we cannot see in that
dimension until it is time for our spiritual bodies to abandon or step out of
our physical bodies.
My mother gave me the best example to explain this transition. Working in a
nursing home for over fifteen years, she was confronted many times with
"death." She told me when a patient was "dying" or had "died," the sparkle in
their eyes was gone. Hence, no spiritual body, (mind) to animate the physical
body, (flesh).
When the separation between the two bodies happen, the physical body no longer
becomes a hindrance or cage, shell, or if you prefer- prison. Depending on the
health of the individual, (can't the flesh body be so sick, it is a living hell
for the soul), or the life the individual has lead, (All the wrong doings and
bad choices that effect one's life). The physical body could have been termed,
their prison, their own private, (hell).
Still don't think the Earthly body is an animal body, consider this:
1. An animal body has five senses, so does our animal body
2. An animal body expels waste, so does our animal body
3. An animal body has hair to protect it, so does our animal body
4. When an animal is hungry it eats, so does our animal body
5. When an animal body gets tired it rests, so does our animal body
6. When an animal wants to have baby animals, it mates, so does our animal body
7. When an animal is threatened it fights, so does our animal body
8. An animal body is susceptible to the weather, so is our animal body
9. An animal body is susceptible to parasites, fleas, ticks, lice, mosquitoes
and flies, so is our animal body
10. An animal body will grow old, so will our animal body
11. An animal body can get sick, so does our animal body
12. An animal will eventually die, so will our animal body
13. An animal body will decay, so will our animal body, and so on.
But your real body does none of these things. It is a spiritual body, [you and
I]. We are only trapped in these animal bodies until we are released.
Want to have a conversation with your soul or another's soul? It's very simple,
all you have to do is shut your eyes. And not look at the other person or your
flesh body. Just talk to them and have them answer. Or think a thought in your
own mind. See it is you and I all along!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: abortion is sin |
12 Jan 2004 04:55:44 AM |
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Echo2Drs <echo2drs@wmconnect.com> wrote:
In response to "abortion is a sin" here is my first document. I hope you get
some meaning out of it, and God bless you!
Our Real Body and Our Physical Body
(An Explanation of Both)
Basically you have two bodies and walk in two different planes, (dimensions).
The physical or material (matter, flesh, animal) is not your real body. It is
the body you see everyday when you look in a mirror or catch a glimpse of in a
Superstitious crap.
IMO
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion is an Enormously-Beneficial REMEDY. |
11 Jan 2004 01:12:25 AM |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:43:49 -0500,
"Rev. Don Spitz" <Glory2SATAN!!@Army-of-DEMONS.com> wrote:
Helpless babies deserve to be protected from those
who want to murder them.
They certainly do, even though infanticide is pretty rare in
this country. But you're OFF-topic in THIS newsgroup. Since
abortion has NOTHING do with babies. All of which have been
BORN.
No big surpise, though, since bigoted and sociopathic losers
like you generally tend to be profoundly IGNORANT people. And
Spitz, you're one of the MOST ignorant that has ever posted in here.
<remaining TRIPE snipped>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion is an Enormously-Beneficial REMEDY. |
11 Jan 2004 12:40:13 AM |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:43:49 -0500,
"Rev. Don Spitz" <Glory2SATAN!!@ArmyofDEMONS.com> wrote:
Helpless babies deserve to be protected from those
who want to murder them.
They certainly do, even though infanticide is pretty rare in
this country. But you're OFF-topic in THIS newsgroup. Since
abortion has NOTHING do with babies. All of which have been
BORN.
No big surpise, though, since bigoted and sociopathic losers
like you generally tend to be profoundly IGNORANT people. And
Spitz, you're one of the MOST ignorant that has ever posted in here.
<remaining TRIPE snipped>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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