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User: "papa jack"
Date: 09 Oct 2004 10:27:14 AM
Object: Abortion On Florida Ballot
WTVY News posted an AP article titled: "Abortion On Florida Ballot."
http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1086136.html
___________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"Floridians on Election Day will have a voice in a
long-running battle pitting the privacy rights of
pregnant girls with the rights of parents to know
if their daughters are seeking abortions.
[...]
"A proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot
would limit the privacy rights of girls under the
age of 18 to allow for a future state law that
would require notice be given to parents of minors
seeking abortions."
___________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack comments:
This is the 4th try -- previously the state legislature
passed parental involvement laws three other times in
the last 15 years. The very liberal Florida Supreme
Court found two unconstitutional and the previous
governor vetoed one.
I wonder if the Florida Supreme court would declare the
new constitutional amendment to be "unconstitutional?"
It's amazing to most normal folks when radicals and judges
argue that little girls should be able to go to a "chop
shop" and have their unborn children killed without their
parents being notified.
I noticed during the debates that John Kerry has twice
defended his repeated opposition to such laws by pretending
there were no judicial bypass provisions in the laws. But,
we all know there WERE judicial bypass provisions in those
laws -- but, Kerry lied as usual to try to look good.
Think about it. The very fact that Kerry felt he had to lie
about why he voted against parential involvement laws tells
us he knows he's on the wrong side on this one.
.

User: "GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 09 Oct 2004 11:11:07 AM
On 9 Oct 2004 08:27:14 -0700,
Bigoted JACKass, "Papa Jack"
<papajack37@sbcglobal.net> spewed:

WTVY News posted an AP article titled:
"Abortion On Florida Ballot."

http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1086136.html
________________________________________________
Excerpts:

"Floridians on Election Day will have a voice in a
long-running battle pitting the privacy rights of
pregnant girls with the rights of parents to know
if their daughters are seeking abortions.

[ ... ]

"A proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot
would limit the privacy rights of girls under the
age of 18 to allow for a future state law that
would require notice be given to parents of minors
seeking abortions."
________________________________________________
This is the 4th try -- previously the state legislature
passed parental involvement laws three other times in
the last 15 years. The very liberal Florida Supreme
Court found two unconstitutional and the previous
governor vetoed one.

Very SENSIBLY!!!
PJ, unlike the very astute John Kerry, would hatefully and
stupidly prefer that girls who are raped by their fathers would be
FORCED to notify their fathers before they could access the
remedy of abortion.
(Just more MINDLESSNESS from Anti-Choicers like PJ.
No surprise!)
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO
relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome
agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person
has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes
such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are
damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in
the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER
to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Kerry -- two medals: a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well -- they don't give medals for
going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry -- a hero, Bush -- a zero.
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening...
The Bush 'economic' policy: - 3 million jobs and counting...
The Bush Iraq lie: - 1,052 GIs, and mounting...
Having Bush louse up my country: Worthless
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INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
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ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
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.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 10 Oct 2004 09:41:09 AM
"GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:41720b8d.129540185@netnews.mchsi.com...

On 9 Oct 2004 08:27:14 -0700,
Bigoted JACKass, "Papa Jack"
<papajack37@sbcglobal.net> spewed:


WTVY News posted an AP article titled:
"Abortion On Florida Ballot."

http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1086136.html
________________________________________________
Excerpts:

"Floridians on Election Day will have a voice in a
long-running battle pitting the privacy rights of
pregnant girls with the rights of parents to know
if their daughters are seeking abortions.

[ ... ]

"A proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot
would limit the privacy rights of girls under the
age of 18 to allow for a future state law that
would require notice be given to parents of minors
seeking abortions."
________________________________________________



This is the 4th try -- previously the state legislature
passed parental involvement laws three other times in
the last 15 years. The very liberal Florida Supreme
Court found two unconstitutional and the previous
governor vetoed one.


Very SENSIBLY!!!

PJ, unlike the very astute John Kerry, would hatefully and
stupidly prefer that girls who are raped by their fathers would be
FORCED to notify their fathers before they could access the
remedy of abortion.

If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in prison?
.
User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 10 Oct 2004 09:34:22 AM
Johnny wrote:

"GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:41720b8d.129540185@netnews.mchsi.com...

On 9 Oct 2004 08:27:14 -0700,
Bigoted JACKass, "Papa Jack"
<papajack37@sbcglobal.net> spewed:



WTVY News posted an AP article titled:
"Abortion On Florida Ballot."

http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1086136.html
________________________________________________
Excerpts:

"Floridians on Election Day will have a voice in a
long-running battle pitting the privacy rights of
pregnant girls with the rights of parents to know
if their daughters are seeking abortions.

[ ... ]

"A proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot
would limit the privacy rights of girls under the
age of 18 to allow for a future state law that
would require notice be given to parents of minors
seeking abortions."
________________________________________________



This is the 4th try -- previously the state legislature
passed parental involvement laws three other times in
the last 15 years. The very liberal Florida Supreme
Court found two unconstitutional and the previous
governor vetoed one.


Very SENSIBLY!!!

PJ, unlike the very astute John Kerry, would hatefully and
stupidly prefer that girls who are raped by their fathers would be
FORCED to notify their fathers before they could access the
remedy of abortion.



If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in prison?

Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed by
a relative.
There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing, jury
selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take much
longer than 9 months.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 10 Oct 2004 12:32:42 PM
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:

"GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:41720b8d.129540185@netnews.mchsi.com...

On 9 Oct 2004 08:27:14 -0700,
Bigoted JACKass, "Papa Jack"
<papajack37@sbcglobal.net> spewed:



WTVY News posted an AP article titled:
"Abortion On Florida Ballot."

http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1086136.html
________________________________________________
Excerpts:

"Floridians on Election Day will have a voice in a
long-running battle pitting the privacy rights of
pregnant girls with the rights of parents to know
if their daughters are seeking abortions.

[ ... ]

"A proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot
would limit the privacy rights of girls under the
age of 18 to allow for a future state law that
would require notice be given to parents of minors
seeking abortions."
________________________________________________



This is the 4th try -- previously the state legislature
passed parental involvement laws three other times in
the last 15 years. The very liberal Florida Supreme
Court found two unconstitutional and the previous
governor vetoed one.


Very SENSIBLY!!!

PJ, unlike the very astute John Kerry, would hatefully and
stupidly prefer that girls who are raped by their fathers would be
FORCED to notify their fathers before they could access the
remedy of abortion.



If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in prison?


Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed by a
relative.

So?
Rape is still illegal.

There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing, jury
selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take much
longer than 9 months.

And, that would not be hard to do.
.
User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 10 Oct 2004 05:57:16 PM
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:

[...]

If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in prison?

Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed by a
relative.

So?
Rape is still illegal.

So? Right or wrong, it doesn't change the fact that not all rape victims
report the crime, particularly if it's a close relative at fault.

There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing, jury
selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take much
longer than 9 months.

And, that would not be hard to do.

Get off your psychotic ***** and go back to work for Duke Energy, then -- if
it's so important to *you*, YOU can foot the bill for it. The Florida
taxpayers might not see it the way you do.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 10 Oct 2004 08:32:30 PM
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:


[...]

If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in prison?


Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed by
a
relative.


So?
Rape is still illegal.


So? Right or wrong, it doesn't change the fact that not all rape victims
report the crime, particularly if it's a close relative at fault.

Doesn't change the fact that rapists run free in the USA either does it?

There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing, jury
selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take much
longer than 9 months.


And, that would not be hard to do.


Get off your psychotic ***** and go back to work for Duke Energy, then -- if
it's so important to *you*, YOU can foot the bill for it. The Florida
taxpayers might not see it the way you do.

LOL!!!!!!
You are saying that rape is a big problem in Florida?
.
User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 10 Oct 2004 08:01:50 PM
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8yae41wz.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:

[...]

If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in prison?

Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed by
a relative.

So?
Rape is still illegal.

So? Right or wrong, it doesn't change the fact that not all rape victims
report the crime, particularly if it's a close relative at fault.

Doesn't change the fact that rapists run free in the USA either does it?

It doesn't, but that's not what you're whining about in the first place.

There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing, jury
selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take much
longer than 9 months.

And, that would not be hard to do.

Get off your psychotic ***** and go back to work for Duke Energy, then -- if
it's so important to *you*, YOU can foot the bill for it. The Florida
taxpayers might not see it the way you do.

LOL!!!!!!
You are saying that rape is a big problem in Florida?

No. You're the idjit that seems to think it's such a big issue, never mind
that you're not exactly *in* Florida any more than I am...and I was there
once, almost a third of a century ago.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 10 Oct 2004 09:28:24 PM
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8yae41wz.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:


[...]


If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in
prison?


Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed
by
a relative.


So?
Rape is still illegal.


So? Right or wrong, it doesn't change the fact that not all rape
victims
report the crime, particularly if it's a close relative at fault.


Doesn't change the fact that rapists run free in the USA either does it?


It doesn't, but that's not what you're whining about in the first place.

What am I whining about then?
Why are you trying to divert the post with that statement?
You seem to be supporting rape.
The abortion on demand legality will change in the USA, and there is NOTHING
you can do about it.
People are pissed about this ***** going on fro more than 30 years.
So, learn the facts, that people are sick of this error in law and we hate
rape of our women and we hate rich guys stealing other men's wives, and we
hate how many women have turned into professional whores.
We are not going to tolerate you or anyone else who wants to keep Roe V Wade
alive in the USA.
Men are ***** about this *****, and some day you will realize it.
That day can be a good day or a bad day.
We are sick of losing jobs, wives, and children to the abortionist mentality
of the USA's unrighteous legal system and unrighteous filibustering
leadership.

There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing,
jury
selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take much
longer than 9 months.


And, that would not be hard to do.


Get off your psychotic ***** and go back to work for Duke Energy, then --
if
it's so important to *you*, YOU can foot the bill for it. The Florida
taxpayers might not see it the way you do.


LOL!!!!!!
You are saying that rape is a big problem in Florida?


No. You're the idjit that seems to think it's such a big issue,

Me?
You're the one who acts like it will cost the taxpayers of Florida big
bucks.
You like to let football players off the hook just so you can see some guy
run fast down the field?
Evil domination will be repudiated in the USA as it was repudiated in Iraq
if necessary.

never mind
that you're not exactly *in* Florida any more than I am...and I was there
once, almost a third of a century ago.

I have been there numerous times.
You should really learn to study some history of how societies rise and how
they fall and how there are people who band together to eliminate evils upon
a nation's people.
If our nation continues to fail its own people, there are plenty of
foreigners eager to come here to take away even more of our possessions and
even some of our women.
When will you finally see the light and stop being such patsy for the evil
rule?
.
User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 10 Oct 2004 08:49:40 PM
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkvfdit6dd.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8yae41wz.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:

[...]

If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in
prison?

Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed
by a relative.

So?
Rape is still illegal.

So? Right or wrong, it doesn't change the fact that not all rape victims
report the crime, particularly if it's a close relative at fault.

Doesn't change the fact that rapists run free in the USA either does it?

It doesn't, but that's not what you're whining about in the first place.

What am I whining about then?

I'd hope that if anyone knows what you're whining about, it'd be *you*.

Why are you trying to divert the post with that statement?

Because that wasn't your rant to begin with, dumbass.

You seem to be supporting rape.

You seem to have the attention span of a mayfly.

The abortion on demand legality will change in the USA, and there is NOTHING
you can do about it.

It definitely won't change because of anything YOU do, though.

People are pissed about this ***** going on fro more than 30 years.

Once again: the voices in your head are NOT other people.

So, learn the facts, that people are sick of this error in law and we hate
rape of our women and we hate rich guys stealing other men's wives, and we
hate how many women have turned into professional whores.

In other words, one certified nutbar in a wide spot in the road in South
Carolina believes he's going to force his insanity on the other 300 million of
us. (Maybe you should stay away from the mushrooms.)

We are not going to tolerate you or anyone else who wants to keep Roe V Wade
alive in the USA.

What are you going to do about it, All Balls and No Brain?

Men are ***** about this *****, and some day you will realize it.
That day can be a good day or a bad day.

If *you* try impressing it upon me or mine, it'll be a singularly bad day for
you. Count on it.

We are sick of losing jobs, wives, and children to the abortionist mentality
of the USA's unrighteous legal system and unrighteous filibustering
leadership.

....in other words, you're in Wentzky Rant mode. No wonder no one bought your
company's stock.

There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing,
jury selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take
much longer than 9 months.

And, that would not be hard to do.

Get off your psychotic ***** and go back to work for Duke Energy, then --
if it's so important to *you*, YOU can foot the bill for it. The Florida
taxpayers might not see it the way you do.

LOL!!!!!!
You are saying that rape is a big problem in Florida?

No. You're the idjit that seems to think it's such a big issue,

Me?

You posted your ranting.

You're the one who acts like it will cost the taxpayers of Florida big
bucks.

Idiot. I'm not a Florida taxpayer, though some of my kin are.

You like to let football players off the hook just so you can see some guy
run fast down the field?

That's your fantasy, which has sod all to do with what you're babbling about.

Evil domination will be repudiated in the USA as it was repudiated in Iraq
if necessary.

*laugh* You might as well commit suicide with _that_ chance of success.

never mind
that you're not exactly *in* Florida any more than I am...and I was there
once, almost a third of a century ago.

I have been there numerous times.

So what? You don't live there. You don't vote there. You don't get a say,
no matter how much you whine.

You should really learn to study some history of how societies rise and how
they fall and how there are people who band together to eliminate evils upon
a nation's people.

....none of which has anything to do with your particular psychosis.

If our nation continues to fail its own people, there are plenty of
foreigners eager to come here to take away even more of our possessions and
even some of our women.

I'm sure you're in frequent contact with Homeland Security.

When will you finally see the light and stop being such patsy for the evil
rule?

I can't see a light that doesn't exist anywhere but in that tiny, cramped head
of yours.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 12 Oct 2004 10:33:30 AM
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:


"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:


[...]


If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in
prison?


Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was
committed
by a relative.


So?
Rape is still illegal.


So? Right or wrong, it doesn't change the fact that not all rape
victims
report the crime, particularly if it's a close relative at fault.


Doesn't change the fact that rapists run free in the USA either does it?


It doesn't, but that's not what you're whining about in the first place.


What am I whining about then?


I'd hope that if anyone knows what you're whining about, it'd be *you*.

Why are you trying to divert the post with that statement?


Because that wasn't your rant to begin with, dumbass.

You seem to be supporting rape.


You seem to have the attention span of a mayfly.

The abortion on demand legality will change in the USA, and there is
NOTHING
you can do about it.


It definitely won't change because of anything YOU do, though.

LOL! So why will it change?
Will it be because people like me change it?


People are pissed about this ***** going on fro more than 30 years.


Once again: the voices in your head are NOT other people.

I do not hear voices in my head telling me, "It's not a baby."
I don't voices outside my head (other people) telling me, "It's not a baby."

So, learn the facts, that people are sick of this error in law and we hate
rape of our women and we hate rich guys stealing other men's wives, and we
hate how many women have turned into professional whores.


In other words, one certified nutbar in a wide spot in the road in South
Carolina believes he's going to force his insanity on the other 300
million of
us. (Maybe you should stay away from the mushrooms.)

300 milllion US Citizens are Pro-Choice?
You analyze the constituency erroneously.


We are not going to tolerate you or anyone else who wants to keep Roe V
Wade
alive in the USA.


What are you going to do about it, All Balls and No Brain?

Watch and wait.
And, use Free Speech as much as I want to.

Men are ***** about this *****, and some day you will realize it.
That day can be a good day or a bad day.


If *you* try impressing it upon me or mine, it'll be a singularly bad day
for
you. Count on it.

I do not count on you.


We are sick of losing jobs, wives, and children to the abortionist
mentality
of the USA's unrighteous legal system and unrighteous filibustering
leadership.


...in other words, you're in Wentzky Rant mode. No wonder no one bought
your
company's stock.

What stock?


There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing,
jury selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can
take
much longer than 9 months.


And, that would not be hard to do.


Get off your psychotic ***** and go back to work for Duke Energy,
then --
if it's so important to *you*, YOU can foot the bill for it. The
Florida
taxpayers might not see it the way you do.


LOL!!!!!!
You are saying that rape is a big problem in Florida?


No. You're the idjit that seems to think it's such a big issue,


Me?


You posted your ranting.

Duke is not my friend. I do not work for my enemies.


You're the one who acts like it will cost the taxpayers of Florida big
bucks.


Idiot. I'm not a Florida taxpayer, though some of my kin are.

So, how is investigating rape going to cost them so much?
Are your kin against it?
Would that mean they are rapists?

You like to let football players off the hook just so you can see some guy
run fast down the field?


That's your fantasy, which has sod all to do with what you're babbling
about.

Not my fantasy. It is some booster club guys and team management's fantasy.

Evil domination will be repudiated in the USA as it was repudiated in Iraq
if necessary.


*laugh* You might as well commit suicide with _that_ chance of success.

People in the USA are abusing women.
Why are you against correcting that here, rather than only in Iraq?

never mind
that you're not exactly *in* Florida any more than I am...and I was
there
once, almost a third of a century ago.


I have been there numerous times.


So what? You don't live there. You don't vote there. You don't get a
say,
no matter how much you whine.

Aren;t you the one who brought up Florida?
Why did you want to mention that and make people think that Florida is a
rapist's state?


You should really learn to study some history of how societies rise and
how
they fall and how there are people who band together to eliminate evils
upon
a nation's people.


...none of which has anything to do with your particular psychosis.

History, psychosis, hmmmmmmmmm.
Very different terms.

If our nation continues to fail its own people, there are plenty of
foreigners eager to come here to take away even more of our possessions
and
even some of our women.


I'm sure you're in frequent contact with Homeland Security.

You think Homeland Security will prevent people who only care about the cash
from lowering their guard?
You think Homeland Security is going to allow a nation that has USC Code 18
and abortion on demand in force to prevent foreigners from coming here and
using our girls for prostitution?

When will you finally see the light and stop being such patsy for the
evil
rule?


I can't see a light that doesn't exist anywhere but in that tiny, cramped
head
of yours.

You got on a blindfold?
.
User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 12 Oct 2004 12:59:34 PM
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:

[...]

If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in
prison?

Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was
committed
by a relative.

So?
Rape is still illegal.

So? Right or wrong, it doesn't change the fact that not all rape
victims report the crime, particularly if it's a close relative at
fault.

Doesn't change the fact that rapists run free in the USA either does it?

It doesn't, but that's not what you're whining about in the first place.

What am I whining about then?

I'd hope that if anyone knows what you're whining about, it'd be *you*.

Apparently that overloaded the capacity of your two-bit brain.
[...]

The abortion on demand legality will change in the USA, and there is
NOTHING you can do about it.

It definitely won't change because of anything YOU do, though.

LOL! So why will it change?
Will it be because people like me change it?

What part of "because of anything YOU do" eluded your feeble notice?

People are pissed about this ***** going on fro more than 30 years.

Once again: the voices in your head are NOT other people.

I do not hear voices in my head telling me, "It's not a baby."
I don't voices outside my head (other people) telling me, "It's not a baby."

You're too cuckoo to understand the concept, in any case.

So, learn the facts, that people are sick of this error in law and we hate
rape of our women and we hate rich guys stealing other men's wives, and we
hate how many women have turned into professional whores.

In other words, one certified nutbar in a wide spot in the road in South
Carolina believes he's going to force his insanity on the other 300 million
of us. (Maybe you should stay away from the mushrooms.)

300 milllion US Citizens are Pro-Choice?
You analyze the constituency erroneously.

Any analysis on your part is presumed to be delusional. (If as many people as
you want me to believe are "pro-life" (more correctly, anti-abortion), where's
the groundswell of support for your advocated lunacy?)

We are not going to tolerate you or anyone else who wants to keep Roe V
Wade alive in the USA.

What are you going to do about it, All Balls and No Brain?

Watch and wait.
And, use Free Speech as much as I want to.

....which is what us pro-choicers have been doing all along, and you can't stop
that, either. Emjoy your futile crusade.

Men are ***** about this *****, and some day you will realize it.
That day can be a good day or a bad day.

If *you* try impressing it upon me or mine, it'll be a singularly bad day
for you. Count on it.

I do not count on you.

Can you count to ten without missing three or four along the way? Based on my
experience with your ravings, I'd seriously doubt it.

We are sick of losing jobs, wives, and children to the abortionist
mentality of the USA's unrighteous legal system and unrighteous
filibustering leadership.

...in other words, you're in Wentzky Rant mode. No wonder no one bought
your company's stock.

What stock?

You mean no one ever took you up to beat your bid on one share of your own
stock? I'm not surprised at all. (incomeasap.com, RIP.)

There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing,
jury selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can
take much longer than 9 months.

And, that would not be hard to do.

Get off your psychotic ***** and go back to work for Duke Energy, then --
if it's so important to *you*, YOU can foot the bill for it. The
Florida taxpayers might not see it the way you do.

LOL!!!!!!
You are saying that rape is a big problem in Florida?

No. You're the idjit that seems to think it's such a big issue,

Me?

You posted your ranting.

Duke is not my friend. I do not work for my enemies.

It's going to cost money to finance your wet dream. You'll have to work for
it. Too stupid to figure that out? Not my problem, sorry.

You're the one who acts like it will cost the taxpayers of Florida big
bucks.

Idiot. I'm not a Florida taxpayer, though some of my kin are.

So, how is investigating rape going to cost them so much?

If it's done at the demand of a nutter like you -- who isn't even a legal
resident of said state -- then it's bound to raise questions of why you should
be allowed to dictate policy of a state you don't live in.

Are your kin against it?

I suggest you ask them. They speak for themselves. (Have fun finding
them...since they're from the maternal side of my ancestry, they'll not share
my surname.)

Would that mean they are rapists?

Only in your fantasy.

You like to let football players off the hook just so you can see some guy
run fast down the field?

That's your fantasy, which has sod all to do with what you're babbling
about.

Not my fantasy. It is some booster club guys and team management's fantasy.

It's proof that you need a room with rubber walls more than ever.

Evil domination will be repudiated in the USA as it was repudiated in Iraq
if necessary.

*laugh* You might as well commit suicide with _that_ chance of success.

People in the USA are abusing women.

....which has precisely what to do qwith your rant about "evil domination"?

Why are you against correcting that here, rather than only in Iraq?

Where did I say I was against it, Sherlock?

never mind that you're not exactly *in* Florida any more than I am...and
I was there once, almost a third of a century ago.

I have been there numerous times.

So what? You don't live there. You don't vote there. You don't get a
say, no matter how much you whine.

Aren;t you the one who brought up Florida?

No -- as anyone can see, YOU brought it up. Why are you unable to remember
what you wrote earlier in the same post?

Why did you want to mention that and make people think that Florida is a
rapist's state?

Why do you think you can assume my intent, when you can't even figure out what
*you're* complaining about?

You should really learn to study some history of how societies rise and how
they fall and how there are people who band together to eliminate evils
upon a nation's people.

...none of which has anything to do with your particular psychosis.

History, psychosis, hmmmmmmmmm.
Very different terms.

Very good. Now explain the difference in less than 500 pages.

If our nation continues to fail its own people, there are plenty of
foreigners eager to come here to take away even more of our possessions and
even some of our women.

I'm sure you're in frequent contact with Homeland Security.

You think Homeland Security will prevent people who only care about the cash
from lowering their guard?
You think Homeland Security is going to allow a nation that has USC Code 18
and abortion on demand in force to prevent foreigners from coming here and
using our girls for prostitution?

There are already statutes in place for those circumstances, dolt. Are you
against the law being enforced as it should be?

When will you finally see the light and stop being such patsy for the evil
rule?

I can't see a light that doesn't exist anywhere but in that tiny, cramped
head of yours.

You got on a blindfold?

Of course not. You're blind as the proverbial bat -- and by your own
poorly-thought choice.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
.



User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 11 Oct 2004 08:02:41 AM
Johnny wrote:

"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:


"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8yae41wz.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:


[...]


If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in
prison?


Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed
by
a relative.


So?
Rape is still illegal.


So? Right or wrong, it doesn't change the fact that not all rape
victims
report the crime, particularly if it's a close relative at fault.


Doesn't change the fact that rapists run free in the USA either does it?


It doesn't, but that's not what you're whining about in the first place.



What am I whining about then?
Why are you trying to divert the post with that statement?
You seem to be supporting rape.
The abortion on demand legality will change in the USA, and there is NOTHING
you can do about it.
People are pissed about this ***** going on fro more than 30 years.
So, learn the facts, that people are sick of this error in law and we hate
rape of our women and we hate rich guys stealing other men's wives, and we
hate how many women have turned into professional whores.
We are not going to tolerate you or anyone else who wants to keep Roe V Wade
alive in the USA.
Men are ***** about this *****, and some day you will realize it.
That day can be a good day or a bad day.
We are sick of losing jobs, wives, and children to the abortionist mentality
of the USA's unrighteous legal system and unrighteous filibustering
leadership.

Speak for yourself, psycho.

There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing,
jury
selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take much
longer than 9 months.


And, that would not be hard to do.


Get off your psychotic ***** and go back to work for Duke Energy, then --
if
it's so important to *you*, YOU can foot the bill for it. The Florida
taxpayers might not see it the way you do.


LOL!!!!!!
You are saying that rape is a big problem in Florida?


No. You're the idjit that seems to think it's such a big issue,



Me?
You're the one who acts like it will cost the taxpayers of Florida big
bucks.
You like to let football players off the hook just so you can see some guy
run fast down the field?
Evil domination will be repudiated in the USA as it was repudiated in Iraq
if necessary.


never mind
that you're not exactly *in* Florida any more than I am...and I was there
once, almost a third of a century ago.



I have been there numerous times.

Big deal? I used to live there... which means exactly nothing.

You should really learn to study some history of how societies rise and how
they fall and how there are people who band together to eliminate evils upon
a nation's people.
If our nation continues to fail its own people, there are plenty of
foreigners eager to come here to take away even more of our possessions and
even some of our women.
When will you finally see the light and stop being such patsy for the evil
rule?

You really are "out there", aren't ya.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 12 Oct 2004 10:35:07 AM
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:

"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:


"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk8yae41wz.fsf@fnord.io.com...

"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:


[...]


If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in
prison?


Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed
by
a relative.


So?
Rape is still illegal.


So? Right or wrong, it doesn't change the fact that not all rape
victims
report the crime, particularly if it's a close relative at fault.


Doesn't change the fact that rapists run free in the USA either does it?


It doesn't, but that's not what you're whining about in the first place.



What am I whining about then?
Why are you trying to divert the post with that statement?
You seem to be supporting rape.
The abortion on demand legality will change in the USA, and there is
NOTHING you can do about it.
People are pissed about this ***** going on fro more than 30 years.
So, learn the facts, that people are sick of this error in law and we
hate rape of our women and we hate rich guys stealing other men's wives,
and we hate how many women have turned into professional whores.
We are not going to tolerate you or anyone else who wants to keep Roe V
Wade alive in the USA.
Men are ***** about this *****, and some day you will realize it.
That day can be a good day or a bad day.
We are sick of losing jobs, wives, and children to the abortionist
mentality of the USA's unrighteous legal system and unrighteous
filibustering leadership.


Speak for yourself, psycho.

There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing,
jury
selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take
much
longer than 9 months.


And, that would not be hard to do.


Get off your psychotic ***** and go back to work for Duke Energy, then --
if
it's so important to *you*, YOU can foot the bill for it. The Florida
taxpayers might not see it the way you do.


LOL!!!!!!
You are saying that rape is a big problem in Florida?


No. You're the idjit that seems to think it's such a big issue,



Me?
You're the one who acts like it will cost the taxpayers of Florida big
bucks.
You like to let football players off the hook just so you can see some
guy run fast down the field?
Evil domination will be repudiated in the USA as it was repudiated in
Iraq if necessary.


never mind
that you're not exactly *in* Florida any more than I am...and I was there
once, almost a third of a century ago.



I have been there numerous times.


Big deal? I used to live there... which means exactly nothing.

Why aren't you there now?


You should really learn to study some history of how societies rise and
how they fall and how there are people who band together to eliminate
evils upon a nation's people.
If our nation continues to fail its own people, there are plenty of
foreigners eager to come here to take away even more of our possessions
and even some of our women.
When will you finally see the light and stop being such patsy for the
evil rule?


You really are "out there", aren't ya.

I actually do research.
.


User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 12 Oct 2004 05:44:42 AM
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:28:24 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<xklad.212234$Np2.123415@bignews4.bellsouth.net> wrote:


It doesn't, but that's not what you're whining about in the first place.


What am I whining about then?
Why are you trying to divert the post with that statement?
You seem to be supporting rape.
The abortion on demand legality will change in the USA, and there is NOTHING
you can do about it.

Yet R v W os over a third of a century old, and the same rants have
been heard since the first day.

People are pissed about this ***** going on fro more than 30 years.

A few of them, but most really don't care.

So, learn the facts, that people are sick of this error in law and we hate
rape of our women and we hate rich guys stealing other men's wives, and we
hate how many women have turned into professional whores.

You certainly are making a lot of cause and effect assumptions with no
facts to back it up. Do you have any?

We are not going to tolerate you or anyone else who wants to keep Roe V Wade
alive in the USA.

What will you do? Hold your breath until you turn blue or continue
killing clinic workers?

Men are ***** about this *****, and some day you will realize it.

No, we aren't.

That day can be a good day or a bad day.
We are sick of losing jobs, wives, and children to the abortionist mentality
of the USA's unrighteous legal system and unrighteous filibustering
leadership.

Yet it seems to be the most successful legal system around.


never mind
that you're not exactly *in* Florida any more than I am...and I was there
once, almost a third of a century ago.


I have been there numerous times.
You should really learn to study some history of how societies rise and how
they fall and how there are people who band together to eliminate evils upon
a nation's people.

Of course, not everyone agrees on what is or is not 'evil'.

If our nation continues to fail its own people, there are plenty of
foreigners eager to come here to take away even more of our possessions and
even some of our women.

Like your ancestors did?

When will you finally see the light and stop being such patsy for the evil
rule?

Yada yada yada.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 12 Oct 2004 10:40:47 AM
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:28:24 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<xklad.212234$Np2.123415@bignews4.bellsouth.net> wrote:



It doesn't, but that's not what you're whining about in the first place.


What am I whining about then?
Why are you trying to divert the post with that statement?
You seem to be supporting rape.
The abortion on demand legality will change in the USA, and there is
NOTHING
you can do about it.


Yet R v W os over a third of a century old, and the same rants have
been heard since the first day.

Roe V Wade was slithered in without much press, if any, from what I recall.
That sort of agenda will not last.
I never really learned about abortion on demand until much later.
Once I learned, I hated it.


People are pissed about this ***** going on fro more than 30 years.


A few of them, but most really don't care.

More than you realize.

So, learn the facts, that people are sick of this error in law and we hate
rape of our women and we hate rich guys stealing other men's wives, and we
hate how many women have turned into professional whores.


You certainly are making a lot of cause and effect assumptions with no
facts to back it up. Do you have any?

You know nothing of divorce rates?
Abortion statistics?
Same-sex marriage agenda?

We are not going to tolerate you or anyone else who wants to keep Roe V
Wade
alive in the USA.


What will you do? Hold your breath until you turn blue or continue
killing clinic workers?

We'll let you hold your breath.
Why would I kill a clinic worker?
They are not worth it to me.
They get paid to kill. Why would I want to kill them for nothing?
LOL!!!!!!!!!

Men are ***** about this *****, and some day you will realize it.


No, we aren't.

*****.
You are not all men here.

That day can be a good day or a bad day.
We are sick of losing jobs, wives, and children to the abortionist
mentality
of the USA's unrighteous legal system and unrighteous filibustering
leadership.


Yet it seems to be the most successful legal system around.

Around where?
It is by no means the most successful legal system.





never mind
that you're not exactly *in* Florida any more than I am...and I was
there
once, almost a third of a century ago.


I have been there numerous times.
You should really learn to study some history of how societies rise and
how
they fall and how there are people who band together to eliminate evils
upon
a nation's people.


Of course, not everyone agrees on what is or is not 'evil'.

So, why are you bitching?


If our nation continues to fail its own people, there are plenty of
foreigners eager to come here to take away even more of our possessions
and
even some of our women.


Like your ancestors did?

LOL!!!!!!!
Not in my family line.
My people resist usurious people and thieves.

When will you finally see the light and stop being such patsy for the
evil
rule?


Yada yada yada.

Sorry. You won't win unless you change.
.
User: "Pr0r3p"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 13 Oct 2004 03:01:32 PM
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message news:<pVSad.310168$%n4.289085@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...

"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:28:24 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<xklad.212234$Np2.123415@bignews4.bellsouth.net> wrote:



It doesn't, but that's not what you're whining about in the first place.


What am I whining about then?
Why are you trying to divert the post with that statement?
You seem to be supporting rape.
The abortion on demand legality will change in the USA, and there is
NOTHING
you can do about it.


Yet R v W os over a third of a century old, and the same rants have
been heard since the first day.


Roe V Wade was slithered in without much press, if any, from what I recall.
That sort of agenda will not last.
I never really learned about abortion on demand until much later.
Once I learned, I hated it.


People are pissed about this ***** going on fro more than 30 years.


A few of them, but most really don't care.


More than you realize.

So, learn the facts, that people are sick of this error in law and we hate
rape of our women and we hate rich guys stealing other men's wives, and we
hate how many women have turned into professional whores.


You certainly are making a lot of cause and effect assumptions with no
facts to back it up. Do you have any?


You know nothing of divorce rates?

I've asked for the same statics that Frank has, and you have yet to
provide them. Obviously, you are drawing conclusions on your own with
no data to back it up. Now, either provide the data, or shut up about
your ***** claim.

Abortion statistics?
Same-sex marriage agenda?

We are not going to tolerate you or anyone else who wants to keep Roe V
Wade
alive in the USA.


What will you do? Hold your breath until you turn blue or continue
killing clinic workers?


We'll let you hold your breath.
Why would I kill a clinic worker?
They are not worth it to me.

Yes, you would rather see the women die from a "coathanger abortion"
and then justify her death as her "getting what she deserved".
Remember, these are your words.

They get paid to kill. Why would I want to kill them for nothing?
LOL!!!!!!!!!

Men are ***** about this *****, and some day you will realize it.


No, we aren't.


*****.
You are not all men here.

That day can be a good day or a bad day.
We are sick of losing jobs, wives, and children to the abortionist
mentality
of the USA's unrighteous legal system and unrighteous filibustering
leadership.


Yet it seems to be the most successful legal system around.


Around where?
It is by no means the most successful legal system.





never mind
that you're not exactly *in* Florida any more than I am...and I was
there
once, almost a third of a century ago.


I have been there numerous times.
You should really learn to study some history of how societies rise and
how
they fall and how there are people who band together to eliminate evils
upon
a nation's people.


Of course, not everyone agrees on what is or is not 'evil'.


So, why are you bitching?


If our nation continues to fail its own people, there are plenty of
foreigners eager to come here to take away even more of our possessions
and
even some of our women.


Like your ancestors did?


LOL!!!!!!!
Not in my family line.
My people resist usurious people and thieves.

When will you finally see the light and stop being such patsy for the
evil
rule?


Yada yada yada.


Sorry. You won't win unless you change.

.

User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 12 Oct 2004 02:26:29 PM
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:40:47 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<pVSad.310168$%n4.289085@bignews6.bellsouth.net> wrote:


"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:28:24 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<xklad.212234$Np2.123415@bignews4.bellsouth.net> wrote:



It doesn't, but that's not what you're whining about in the first place.


What am I whining about then?
Why are you trying to divert the post with that statement?
You seem to be supporting rape.
The abortion on demand legality will change in the USA, and there is
NOTHING
you can do about it.


Yet R v W os over a third of a century old, and the same rants have
been heard since the first day.


Roe V Wade was slithered in without much press, if any, from what I recall.
That sort of agenda will not last.

It has lasted for a generation and a half. A lot longer than
Prohibition lasted.

I never really learned about abortion on demand until much later.
Once I learned, I hated it.

I supported it long before it became legal. It is simply a safe
medical procedure.



People are pissed about this ***** going on fro more than 30 years.


A few of them, but most really don't care.


More than you realize.

A few loud one's who keep saying there are more but have been very
ineffectual for over 30 years. Except in bombing clinics and shooting
workers.


So, learn the facts, that people are sick of this error in law and we hate
rape of our women and we hate rich guys stealing other men's wives, and we
hate how many women have turned into professional whores.


You certainly are making a lot of cause and effect assumptions with no
facts to back it up. Do you have any?


You know nothing of divorce rates?

Yes.

Abortion statistics?

Yes.

Same-sex marriage agenda?

Not being interested I ignore it.


We are not going to tolerate you or anyone else who wants to keep Roe V
Wade
alive in the USA.


What will you do? Hold your breath until you turn blue or continue
killing clinic workers?


We'll let you hold your breath.

No thanks. Not interested.

Why would I kill a clinic worker?

Why would any kook?

They are not worth it to me.

Several were to somebody.

They get paid to kill. Why would I want to kill them for nothing?

Generally the motive is based on being a religious flake.

LOL!!!!!!!!!

Men are ***** about this *****, and some day you will realize it.


No, we aren't.


*****.
You are not all men here.

You made a general statement which I refuted. As a man I am not
"***** about this *****".


That day can be a good day or a bad day.
We are sick of losing jobs, wives, and children to the abortionist
mentality
of the USA's unrighteous legal system and unrighteous filibustering
leadership.


Yet it seems to be the most successful legal system around.


Around where?
It is by no means the most successful legal system.

Oh? What is better?


never mind
that you're not exactly *in* Florida any more than I am...and I was
there
once, almost a third of a century ago.


I have been there numerous times.
You should really learn to study some history of how societies rise and
how
they fall and how there are people who band together to eliminate evils
upon
a nation's people.


Of course, not everyone agrees on what is or is not 'evil'.


So, why are you bitching?

My comments seem to bother you. Why don't I care?



If our nation continues to fail its own people, there are plenty of
foreigners eager to come here to take away even more of our possessions
and
even some of our women.


Like your ancestors did?


LOL!!!!!!!
Not in my family line.
My people resist usurious people and thieves.

Nonsense. Everyone's ancestors came from somewhere else, and all
newcomers oppress anyone already in residence. Otherwise they are
driven away.


When will you finally see the light and stop being such patsy for the
evil
rule?


Yada yada yada.


Sorry. You won't win unless you change.

I am not in a contest and am not trying to 'win' anything. I am
satisfied for things to remain as they are.
.







User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 11 Oct 2004 07:59:53 AM
Johnny wrote:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:


"GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:41720b8d.129540185@netnews.mchsi.com...


On 9 Oct 2004 08:27:14 -0700,
Bigoted JACKass, "Papa Jack"
<papajack37@sbcglobal.net> spewed:




WTVY News posted an AP article titled:
"Abortion On Florida Ballot."

http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1086136.html
________________________________________________
Excerpts:

"Floridians on Election Day will have a voice in a
long-running battle pitting the privacy rights of
pregnant girls with the rights of parents to know
if their daughters are seeking abortions.

[ ... ]

"A proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot
would limit the privacy rights of girls under the
age of 18 to allow for a future state law that
would require notice be given to parents of minors
seeking abortions."
________________________________________________



This is the 4th try -- previously the state legislature
passed parental involvement laws three other times in
the last 15 years. The very liberal Florida Supreme
Court found two unconstitutional and the previous
governor vetoed one.


Very SENSIBLY!!!

PJ, unlike the very astute John Kerry, would hatefully and
stupidly prefer that girls who are raped by their fathers would be
FORCED to notify their fathers before they could access the
remedy of abortion.



If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in prison?


Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed by a
relative.



So?
Rape is still illegal.

So? You asked why the father's aren't in prison. I apologize if the
truth isn't a good enough answer for you.

There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing, jury
selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take much
longer than 9 months.



And, that would not be hard to do.

Who said anything about it being hard to do? You would expect rape
victims to notify the rapist before aborting a resulting pregnancy?
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 12 Oct 2004 10:43:25 AM
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:dtvad.6700$927.6416@news01.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:


"GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:41720b8d.129540185@netnews.mchsi.com...


On 9 Oct 2004 08:27:14 -0700,
Bigoted JACKass, "Papa Jack"
<papajack37@sbcglobal.net> spewed:




WTVY News posted an AP article titled:
"Abortion On Florida Ballot."

http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1086136.html
________________________________________________
Excerpts:

"Floridians on Election Day will have a voice in a
long-running battle pitting the privacy rights of
pregnant girls with the rights of parents to know
if their daughters are seeking abortions.

[ ... ]

"A proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot
would limit the privacy rights of girls under the
age of 18 to allow for a future state law that
would require notice be given to parents of minors
seeking abortions."
________________________________________________



This is the 4th try -- previously the state legislature
passed parental involvement laws three other times in
the last 15 years. The very liberal Florida Supreme
Court found two unconstitutional and the previous
governor vetoed one.


Very SENSIBLY!!!

PJ, unlike the very astute John Kerry, would hatefully and
stupidly prefer that girls who are raped by their fathers would be
FORCED to notify their fathers before they could access the
remedy of abortion.



If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in prison?


Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed by
a relative.



So?
Rape is still illegal.


So? You asked why the father's aren't in prison. I apologize if the truth
isn't a good enough answer for you.

What truth?
Do you mean the part that does not treat all criminals equally?
What would be true about that, other than that seems to be what is happening
here?


There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing, jury
selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take much
longer than 9 months.



And, that would not be hard to do.


Who said anything about it being hard to do? You would expect rape victims
to notify the rapist before aborting a resulting pregnancy?

I would expect the rapist to be identified.
Now that there is DNA testing and RU-486, rapists can be identified.
The abortion can proceed, medicinally, thereafter.
.
User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 13 Oct 2004 07:38:00 AM
Johnny wrote:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:dtvad.6700$927.6416@news01.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...


Johnny wrote:



"GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:41720b8d.129540185@netnews.mchsi.com...



On 9 Oct 2004 08:27:14 -0700,
Bigoted JACKass, "Papa Jack"
<papajack37@sbcglobal.net> spewed:





WTVY News posted an AP article titled:
"Abortion On Florida Ballot."

http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1086136.html
________________________________________________
Excerpts:

"Floridians on Election Day will have a voice in a
long-running battle pitting the privacy rights of
pregnant girls with the rights of parents to know
if their daughters are seeking abortions.

[ ... ]

"A proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot
would limit the privacy rights of girls under the
age of 18 to allow for a future state law that
would require notice be given to parents of minors
seeking abortions."
________________________________________________



This is the 4th try -- previously the state legislature
passed parental involvement laws three other times in
the last 15 years. The very liberal Florida Supreme
Court found two unconstitutional and the previous
governor vetoed one.


Very SENSIBLY!!!

PJ, unlike the very astute John Kerry, would hatefully and
stupidly prefer that girls who are raped by their fathers would be
FORCED to notify their fathers before they could access the
remedy of abortion.



If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in prison?


Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed by
a relative.



So?
Rape is still illegal.


So? You asked why the father's aren't in prison. I apologize if the truth
isn't a good enough answer for you.



What truth?
Do you mean the part that does not treat all criminals equally?

The part about not all rape victims report the crime.

What would be true about that, other than that seems to be what is happening
here?


There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing, jury
selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take much
longer than 9 months.



And, that would not be hard to do.


Who said anything about it being hard to do? You would expect rape victims
to notify the rapist before aborting a resulting pregnancy?



I would expect the rapist to be identified.
Now that there is DNA testing and RU-486, rapists can be identified.
The abortion can proceed, medicinally, thereafter.

Oh, so you approve of abortion.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 13 Oct 2004 08:02:36 AM
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:Ik9bd.9153$uT7.513@news02.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:

"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:dtvad.6700$927.6416@news01.roc.ny...

Johnny wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote in message
news:OLbad.8922$6o4.1261@news02.roc.ny...


Johnny wrote:



"GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:41720b8d.129540185@netnews.mchsi.com...



On 9 Oct 2004 08:27:14 -0700,
Bigoted JACKass, "Papa Jack"
<papajack37@sbcglobal.net> spewed:





WTVY News posted an AP article titled:
"Abortion On Florida Ballot."

http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1086136.html
________________________________________________
Excerpts:

"Floridians on Election Day will have a voice in a
long-running battle pitting the privacy rights of
pregnant girls with the rights of parents to know
if their daughters are seeking abortions.

[ ... ]

"A proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot
would limit the privacy rights of girls under the
age of 18 to allow for a future state law that
would require notice be given to parents of minors
seeking abortions."
________________________________________________



This is the 4th try -- previously the state legislature
passed parental involvement laws three other times in
the last 15 years. The very liberal Florida Supreme
Court found two unconstitutional and the previous
governor vetoed one.


Very SENSIBLY!!!

PJ, unlike the very astute John Kerry, would hatefully and
stupidly prefer that girls who are raped by their fathers would be
FORCED to notify their fathers before they could access the
remedy of abortion.



If they are raped by the fathers then why aren't the fathers in
prison?


Not all rape victims report the crime, especially if it was committed
by a relative.



So?
Rape is still illegal.


So? You asked why the father's aren't in prison. I apologize if the truth
isn't a good enough answer for you.



What truth?
Do you mean the part that does not treat all criminals equally?


The part about not all rape victims report the crime.

What would be true about that, other than that seems to be what is
happening here?


There's also the little issue of an investigation, arrest, hearing,
jury selection, trial, verdict and sentencing. A process that can take
much longer than 9 months.



And, that would not be hard to do.


Who said anything about it being hard to do? You would expect rape
victims to notify the rapist before aborting a resulting pregnancy?



I would expect the rapist to be identified.
Now that there is DNA testing and RU-486, rapists can be identified.
The abortion can proceed, medicinally, thereafter.


Oh, so you approve of abortion.

Medicinal abortion in the case of rape is ok with me.
If a woman claims she was raped, then a crime is assumed to have been
committed and the necessary investigation must ensue. If it is determined
that the woman falsely accused someone of rape in order to obtain an
abortion, then the abortion should be disallowed. Consensual sex is not good
enough reason for abortion.
I do not like to force women to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term.
You got a problem with it?
.
User: "Paul Anderson"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 13 Oct 2004 08:26:42 AM
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:02:36 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote

......

Oh, so you approve of abortion.


Medicinal abortion in the case of rape is ok with me.
If a woman claims she was raped, then a crime is assumed to have been
committed and the necessary investigation must ensue. If it is determined
that the woman falsely accused someone of rape in order to obtain an
abortion, then the abortion should be disallowed. Consensual sex is not good
enough reason for abortion.
I do not like to force women to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term.
You got a problem with it?

If a woman is seeking an abortion it is highly likely that the
pregnancy is unwanted. Since you are OK with abortion in the case of
rape, what is the justification to ban any abortion?
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 13 Oct 2004 08:33:42 AM
"Paul Anderson" <elcoyote@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:416d2c42.392533840@news.la.sbcglobal.net...

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:02:36 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:


"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote


.....

Oh, so you approve of abortion.


Medicinal abortion in the case of rape is ok with me.
If a woman claims she was raped, then a crime is assumed to have been
committed and the necessary investigation must ensue. If it is determined
that the woman falsely accused someone of rape in order to obtain an
abortion, then the abortion should be disallowed. Consensual sex is not
good
enough reason for abortion.
I do not like to force women to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term.
You got a problem with it?


If a woman is seeking an abortion it is highly likely that the
pregnancy is unwanted.

Not good enough. Unwanted pregnancies and unwanted sex are two different
things.

Since you are OK with abortion in the case of
rape, what is the justification to ban any abortion?

There is plenty of justification to ban abortions other than abortions due
to non-consensual sex, rape.
.
User: "Paul Anderson"

Title: Re: Abortion On Florida Ballot 13 Oct 2004 09:11:00 PM