Science > Abortion > Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
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"J Young" |
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30 Nov 2005 12:08:08 PM |
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Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed its
case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller and
claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the botched abortion
death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January 13,
2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the Wesley Medical
Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
Following a closed-door meeting, the Board of Healing Arts concluded a
nine-month investigation and determined that Tiller complied with state laws
and health care standards in his treatment of the woman, despite eventually
killing her.
However, Gilbert's autopsy report specifically indicated that she died from
"complications to a therapeutic abortion."
Cheryl Sullenger, of Operation Rescue, which has closely followed the case,
said the documents they have obtained make it clear Tiller killed Gilbert.
"We believe the autopsy and other documents prove that he violated the
standard of care by misdiagnosing a life-threatening infection as
dehydration," she explained. Sullenger also said Tiller sent "her to an
unequipped hotel room instead of the hospital even though her condition was
worsening" following the botched abortion.
"I believe that every Kansan should be concerned about the Board being
unwilling to do their job to police the medical profession and protect the
health and safety of patients. Because they steadfastly refuse to do their
jobs, all Kansans are at risk," she added.
Larry Buening, the board's executive director, notified pro-abortion Gov.
Kathleen Sebelius of the board's conclusion in a letter he sent last week,
according to an Associated Press report. Sebelius' office released a copy of
the letter today.
Referring to Tiller, Buening wrote that "the unfortunate death of the
patient was not caused by any act or failure to act by Licensee or his
staff."
"The board has now concluded all inquiry and review of the matter and closed
the investigation," Buening wrote, according to the AP report.
The governor asked the board to investigate the death in February and
pro-life groups said her concern about the safety of women at abortion
facilities was too little too late after she twice vetoed a bill to put some
regulations in place.
Sebelius has also been accused of providing political cover for Tiller
because he has contributed thousands of dollars to her campaigns.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
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| User: "Frank Arthur" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
30 Nov 2005 01:13:33 PM |
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Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:G-SdnfihhPi9dhDeRVn-jw@giganews.com...
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed its
case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller and
claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the botched abortion
death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January 13,
2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the Wesley
Medical
Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
Following a closed-door meeting, the Board of Healing Arts concluded a
nine-month investigation and determined that Tiller complied with state
laws
and health care standards in his treatment of the woman, despite
eventually
killing her.
However, Gilbert's autopsy report specifically indicated that she died
from
"complications to a therapeutic abortion."
Cheryl Sullenger, of Operation Rescue, which has closely followed the
case,
said the documents they have obtained make it clear Tiller killed Gilbert.
"We believe the autopsy and other documents prove that he violated the
standard of care by misdiagnosing a life-threatening infection as
dehydration," she explained. Sullenger also said Tiller sent "her to an
unequipped hotel room instead of the hospital even though her condition
was
worsening" following the botched abortion.
"I believe that every Kansan should be concerned about the Board being
unwilling to do their job to police the medical profession and protect the
health and safety of patients. Because they steadfastly refuse to do their
jobs, all Kansans are at risk," she added.
Larry Buening, the board's executive director, notified pro-abortion Gov.
Kathleen Sebelius of the board's conclusion in a letter he sent last week,
according to an Associated Press report. Sebelius' office released a copy
of
the letter today.
Referring to Tiller, Buening wrote that "the unfortunate death of the
patient was not caused by any act or failure to act by Licensee or his
staff."
"The board has now concluded all inquiry and review of the matter and
closed
the investigation," Buening wrote, according to the AP report.
The governor asked the board to investigate the death in February and
pro-life groups said her concern about the safety of women at abortion
facilities was too little too late after she twice vetoed a bill to put
some
regulations in place.
Sebelius has also been accused of providing political cover for Tiller
because he has contributed thousands of dollars to her campaigns.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
30 Nov 2005 01:18:07 PM |
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"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
news:cPmjf.86800$xK1.55293@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or
medical facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by
many Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Probably.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
30 Nov 2005 10:28:59 PM |
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Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a book that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days, in
reality, they were not that common.
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:G-SdnfihhPi9dhDeRVn-jw@giganews.com...
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed its
case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller and
claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the botched abortion
death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January 13,
2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the Wesley
Medical
Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
Following a closed-door meeting, the Board of Healing Arts concluded a
nine-month investigation and determined that Tiller complied with state
laws
and health care standards in his treatment of the woman, despite
eventually
killing her.
However, Gilbert's autopsy report specifically indicated that she died
from
"complications to a therapeutic abortion."
Cheryl Sullenger, of Operation Rescue, which has closely followed the
case,
said the documents they have obtained make it clear Tiller killed Gilbert.
"We believe the autopsy and other documents prove that he violated the
standard of care by misdiagnosing a life-threatening infection as
dehydration," she explained. Sullenger also said Tiller sent "her to an
unequipped hotel room instead of the hospital even though her condition
was
worsening" following the botched abortion.
"I believe that every Kansan should be concerned about the Board being
unwilling to do their job to police the medical profession and protect the
health and safety of patients. Because they steadfastly refuse to do their
jobs, all Kansans are at risk," she added.
Larry Buening, the board's executive director, notified pro-abortion Gov.
Kathleen Sebelius of the board's conclusion in a letter he sent last week,
according to an Associated Press report. Sebelius' office released a copy
of
the letter today.
Referring to Tiller, Buening wrote that "the unfortunate death of the
patient was not caused by any act or failure to act by Licensee or his
staff."
"The board has now concluded all inquiry and review of the matter and
closed
the investigation," Buening wrote, according to the AP report.
The governor asked the board to investigate the death in February and
pro-life groups said her concern about the safety of women at abortion
facilities was too little too late after she twice vetoed a bill to put
some
regulations in place.
Sebelius has also been accused of providing political cover for Tiller
because he has contributed thousands of dollars to her campaigns.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
30 Nov 2005 11:04:38 PM |
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In article <1133411339.136836.194470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a book that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days, in
reality, they were not that common.
This is Osprey's idea of research an issue. He "read a book." And of
course, as Osprey will tell you, if it is written down in a book it
must be true.
There is always someone willing to claim anything, and all Osprey has
to do is find it.
Here are the facts:
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/ab
ortion/fact-abortion-medical-social-benefits.xml>
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
01 Dec 2005 03:55:27 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:301120052104387625%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1133411339.136836.194470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or
medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a book that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days, in
reality, they were not that common.
This is Osprey's idea of research an issue. He "read a book." And of
course, as Osprey will tell you, if it is written down in a book it
must be true.
There is always someone willing to claim anything, and all Osprey has
to do is find it.
Here are the facts:
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/ab
ortion/fact-abortion-medical-social-benefits.xml>
Do you always ask the serial killer if he killed someone? Do you ask the car
dealer if his cars are the best in the business? Do you ask white supremists
if they hate blacks? Why go to the leading provided and the biggest money
maker off of abortions to answer a question like this? Like those in the
above examples, they are highly likely to lie to you. Try getting the info
from a neutral source.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
01 Dec 2005 09:26:21 PM |
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In article <LLzjf.43627$sg5.3878@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:301120052104387625%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1133411339.136836.194470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or
medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a book that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days, in
reality, they were not that common.
This is Osprey's idea of research an issue. He "read a book." And of
course, as Osprey will tell you, if it is written down in a book it
must be true.
There is always someone willing to claim anything, and all Osprey has
to do is find it.
Here are the facts:
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/ab
ortion/fact-abortion-medical-social-benefits.xml>
Do you always askŠ <SNIP>
Shut the hell up.
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
02 Dec 2005 07:13:02 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:011220051926217128%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <LLzjf.43627$sg5.3878@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:301120052104387625%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1133411339.136836.194470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or
medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a book
that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days, in
reality, they were not that common.
This is Osprey's idea of research an issue. He "read a book." And of
course, as Osprey will tell you, if it is written down in a book it
must be true.
There is always someone willing to claim anything, and all Osprey has
to do is find it.
Here are the facts:
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/ab
ortion/fact-abortion-medical-social-benefits.xml>
Do you always askS <SNIP>
Shut the hell up.
I guess you don't like having the legitimacy of your sources questioned. If
you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen as well as this newsgroup.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
02 Dec 2005 08:30:12 PM |
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In article <Ej6kf.44690$sg5.25098@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:011220051926217128%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <LLzjf.43627$sg5.3878@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:301120052104387625%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1133411339.136836.194470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or
medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a book
that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days, in
reality, they were not that common.
This is Osprey's idea of research an issue. He "read a book." And of
course, as Osprey will tell you, if it is written down in a book it
must be true.
There is always someone willing to claim anything, and all Osprey has
to do is find it.
Here are the facts:
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/ab
ortion/fact-abortion-medical-social-benefits.xml>
Do you always askS <SNIP>
Shut the hell up.
I guess you don't like having the legitimacy of your sources questioned. If
you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen as well as this newsgroup.
I take the heat just fine, when it is there, but any idiot that
compares Planned Parenthood, one of the most respected organizations in
the country, to a serial killer and KKK member, is a waste of time.
Planned Parenthood has far more credibility that you could ever pray to
have.
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
03 Dec 2005 11:05:23 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:021220051830126795%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <Ej6kf.44690$sg5.25098@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:011220051926217128%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <LLzjf.43627$sg5.3878@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:301120052104387625%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1133411339.136836.194470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor
or
medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by
many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a
book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a book
that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days, in
reality, they were not that common.
This is Osprey's idea of research an issue. He "read a book." And
of
course, as Osprey will tell you, if it is written down in a book it
must be true.
There is always someone willing to claim anything, and all Osprey
has
to do is find it.
Here are the facts:
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/ab
ortion/fact-abortion-medical-social-benefits.xml>
Do you always askS <SNIP>
Shut the hell up.
I guess you don't like having the legitimacy of your sources questioned.
If
you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen as well as this newsgroup.
I take the heat just fine, when it is there, but any idiot that
compares Planned Parenthood, one of the most respected organizations in
the country, to a serial killer and KKK member, is a waste of time.
Planned Parenthood has far more credibility that you could ever pray to
have.
Perfect example of blind following of those who only share your views.
Unquestioned loyalty. Hitlers following was the same way as I recall.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
03 Dec 2005 11:10:35 AM |
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In article <_dkkf.44726$sg5.25448@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:021220051830126795%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <Ej6kf.44690$sg5.25098@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:011220051926217128%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <LLzjf.43627$sg5.3878@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:301120052104387625%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1133411339.136836.194470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor
or
medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by
many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a
book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a book
that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days, in
reality, they were not that common.
This is Osprey's idea of research an issue. He "read a book." And
of
course, as Osprey will tell you, if it is written down in a book it
must be true.
There is always someone willing to claim anything, and all Osprey
has
to do is find it.
Here are the facts:
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/
ab
ortion/fact-abortion-medical-social-benefits.xml>
Do you always askS <SNIP>
Shut the hell up.
I guess you don't like having the legitimacy of your sources questioned.
If
you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen as well as this newsgroup.
I take the heat just fine, when it is there, but any idiot that
compares Planned Parenthood, one of the most respected organizations in
the country, to a serial killer and KKK member, is a waste of time.
Planned Parenthood has far more credibility that you could ever pray to
have.
Perfect example of blind following of those who only share your views.
I don't "follow" anything. That is your thing.
Unquestioned loyalty. Hitlers following was the same way as I recall.
You should know, I guess.
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| User: "Reasoned Insanity" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
03 Dec 2005 11:59:47 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:031220050910352959%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <_dkkf.44726$sg5.25448@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:021220051830126795%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <Ej6kf.44690$sg5.25098@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:011220051926217128%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <LLzjf.43627$sg5.3878@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:301120052104387625%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<1133411339.136836.194470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no
doctor
or
medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded
by
many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a
book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a
book
that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days,
in
reality, they were not that common.
This is Osprey's idea of research an issue. He "read a book."
And
of
course, as Osprey will tell you, if it is written down in a book
it
must be true.
There is always someone willing to claim anything, and all Osprey
has
to do is find it.
Here are the facts:
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/
ab
ortion/fact-abortion-medical-social-benefits.xml>
Do you always askS <SNIP>
Shut the hell up.
I guess you don't like having the legitimacy of your sources
questioned.
If
you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen as well as this
newsgroup.
I take the heat just fine, when it is there, but any idiot that
compares Planned Parenthood, one of the most respected organizations in
the country, to a serial killer and KKK member, is a waste of time.
Planned Parenthood has far more credibility that you could ever pray to
have.
Perfect example of blind following of those who only share your views.
I don't "follow" anything. That is your thing.
So that's what you tell yourself to escape responsibility of leading people
astray.
Unquestioned loyalty. Hitlers following was the same way as I recall.
You should know, I guess.
Yep, I've been observing it in you for quite a while now.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
04 Dec 2005 12:10:17 AM |
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In article <pDvkf.44768$sg5.37540@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:031220050910352959%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <_dkkf.44726$sg5.25448@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:021220051830126795%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <Ej6kf.44690$sg5.25098@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:011220051926217128%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <LLzjf.43627$sg5.3878@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:301120052104387625%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<1133411339.136836.194470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no
doctor
or
medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded
by
many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a
book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a
book
that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days,
in
reality, they were not that common.
This is Osprey's idea of research an issue. He "read a book."
And
of
course, as Osprey will tell you, if it is written down in a book
it
must be true.
There is always someone willing to claim anything, and all Osprey
has
to do is find it.
Here are the facts:
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalin
fo/
ab
ortion/fact-abortion-medical-social-benefits.xml>
Do you always askS <SNIP>
Shut the hell up.
I guess you don't like having the legitimacy of your sources
questioned.
If
you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen as well as this
newsgroup.
I take the heat just fine, when it is there, but any idiot that
compares Planned Parenthood, one of the most respected organizations in
the country, to a serial killer and KKK member, is a waste of time.
Planned Parenthood has far more credibility that you could ever pray to
have.
Perfect example of blind following of those who only share your views.
I don't "follow" anything. That is your thing.
So that's what you tell yourself to escape responsibility of leading people
astray.
Now I'm "leading?" You will say anything.
Unquestioned loyalty. Hitlers following was the same way as I recall.
You should know, I guess.
Yep, I've been observing it in you for quite a while now.
Changes churches.
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03 Dec 2005 12:52:35 AM |
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Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:011220051926217128%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <LLzjf.43627$sg5.3878@dukeread12>, Reasoned Insanity
<mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:301120052104387625%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1133411339.136836.194470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or
medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a book
that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days, in
reality, they were not that common.
This is Osprey's idea of research an issue. He "read a book." And of
course, as Osprey will tell you, if it is written down in a book it
must be true.
There is always someone willing to claim anything, and all Osprey has
to do is find it.
Here are the facts:
<http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/ab
ortion/fact-abortion-medical-social-benefits.xml>
Do you always askS <SNIP>
Shut the hell up.
I guess you don't like having the legitimacy of your sources questioned.
That explains why you don't provide sources.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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30 Nov 2005 11:03:41 PM |
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osprey wrote:
Frank
"One last note: I am very surprised at your reaction especially after
just a few short months ago I provided a copy of my DD214 Right in
box 18...1st line it says... SERVED 2 AUG 90 TO 1 OCT 94 IN SUPPORT
OF OPERATION DESERT SHIELD/STORM and in box 13 NATIONAL DEFENSE SERVICE
MEDAL Funny how you have selective memory, why? Yes, I served in combat
during Desert Storm."
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/38f5de5691243868?dmode=source&hl=en
"Fine, if you want to play on words...no I was not in actual "combat" "
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/db12fe6b6ec66a35?dmode=source&hl=en
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01 Dec 2005 03:53:03 AM |
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osprey wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a book that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
I am sure you can find out and furnish us the title of this book you
allegedly read. I am sure it'll take me all of ten minutes to read it.
:-)
While there were some back alley type abortions in those days, in
reality, they were not that common.
You're a fucking idiot.
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01 Dec 2005 09:19:23 AM |
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Gaia wrote:
osprey wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Actually Frank, that is more of a myth than factual. I read a book,
about a year ago..I can't remember the name; however it was a book that
discussed many issues and the myths that go along with them.
I am sure you can find out and furnish us the title of this book you
allegedly read. I am sure it'll take me all of ten minutes to read it.
:-)
It was likely Green Eggs and Ham or Red Fish Blue Fish.
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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30 Nov 2005 07:10:15 PM |
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Frank Arthur wrote:
Coat hanger abortions and filthy back alley abortions, no doctor or medical
facilities abortions used to be the norm in America demanded by many
Christians before Roe Wade.
Would you like to see those days return?
Yes, he and the other anti-choicers would like to see exactly that return.
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:G-SdnfihhPi9dhDeRVn-jw@giganews.com...
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed its
case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller and
claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the botched abortion
death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January 13,
2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the Wesley
Medical
Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
Following a closed-door meeting, the Board of Healing Arts concluded a
nine-month investigation and determined that Tiller complied with state
laws
and health care standards in his treatment of the woman, despite
eventually
killing her.
However, Gilbert's autopsy report specifically indicated that she died
from
"complications to a therapeutic abortion."
Cheryl Sullenger, of Operation Rescue, which has closely followed the
case,
said the documents they have obtained make it clear Tiller killed Gilbert.
"We believe the autopsy and other documents prove that he violated the
standard of care by misdiagnosing a life-threatening infection as
dehydration," she explained. Sullenger also said Tiller sent "her to an
unequipped hotel room instead of the hospital even though her condition
was
worsening" following the botched abortion.
"I believe that every Kansan should be concerned about the Board being
unwilling to do their job to police the medical profession and protect the
health and safety of patients. Because they steadfastly refuse to do their
jobs, all Kansans are at risk," she added.
Larry Buening, the board's executive director, notified pro-abortion Gov.
Kathleen Sebelius of the board's conclusion in a letter he sent last week,
according to an Associated Press report. Sebelius' office released a copy
of
the letter today.
Referring to Tiller, Buening wrote that "the unfortunate death of the
patient was not caused by any act or failure to act by Licensee or his
staff."
"The board has now concluded all inquiry and review of the matter and
closed
the investigation," Buening wrote, according to the AP report.
The governor asked the board to investigate the death in February and
pro-life groups said her concern about the safety of women at abortion
facilities was too little too late after she twice vetoed a bill to put
some
regulations in place.
Sebelius has also been accused of providing political cover for Tiller
because he has contributed thousands of dollars to her campaigns.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
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01 Dec 2005 12:18:16 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
If justice prevailed you'd be in prison for promioting terrorism.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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01 Dec 2005 01:26:39 AM |
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On 30 Nov 2005 22:18:16 -0800, (Ray Fischer)
wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
If justice prevailed you'd be in prison for promioting terrorism.
If real terrorists like Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheyney are not in prison,
what hope is there for petty scumbags like Y. Young to receive
justice?
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| User: "S. Maizlich" |
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30 Nov 2005 02:50:18 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed its
case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller and
claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the botched abortion
death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January 13,
2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the Wesley Medical
Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
Following a closed-door meeting, the Board of Healing Arts concluded a
nine-month investigation and determined that Tiller complied with state laws
and health care standards in his treatment of the woman, despite eventually
killing her.
This is really pretty meaningless. Some number of patients die in
surgery all the time. It isn't supposed to happen, and there are
supposed to be lots of measures taken to prevent it, but still it
happens. When it does, the doctor may be charged criminally with
negligence, and civilly might be sued for malpractice, but is never
charged with even manslaughter unless the negligence is gross.
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30 Nov 2005 07:27:49 PM |
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S. Maizlich wrote:
J Young wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed its
case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller and
claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the botched abortion
death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January 13,
2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the Wesley Medical
Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
Following a closed-door meeting, the Board of Healing Arts concluded a
nine-month investigation and determined that Tiller complied with state laws
and health care standards in his treatment of the woman, despite eventually
killing her.
This is really pretty meaningless. Some number of patients die in
surgery all the time. It isn't supposed to happen, and there are
supposed to be lots of measures taken to prevent it, but still it
happens. When it does, the doctor may be charged criminally with
negligence, and civilly might be sued for malpractice, but is never
charged with even manslaughter unless the negligence is gross.
Er..she didn't die in surgery. She went through what is, essentially,
childbirth. She was sent to a hotel room and misdiagnosed. Hello?
I'm beginning to wonder if any of you actually READ. Frankly, what I
saw in that story is this: if the woman had simply gone into labor
early, and had a stillbirth or a child who died soon after birth,
there is no way she would have been discharged immediately after the
birth and sent to a hotel room. She would have been monitored for a day
or so.
But because this was an induced labor (abortion) then politics seemed
to step in here, and she was sent to the hotel. And she died. And
because it was an abortion, not premature birth, everybody was out to
cover the doctor's butt for his malpractice. It wouldn't be politically
correct to sue a doctor for mismanaging an abortion. Believe me, if
that woman had been treated in that manner after an unintentional
miscarraige/premature labor, the decision would have been quite
different.
What is bothering me the most about this is that y'all who are for
abortion rights don't see the problem here. This woman was treated
differently because she was having an abortion rather than simply going
into early labor, and rather than getting upset because she was
obviously given a lesser standard of care, you are attempting to excuse
the doctor. So much for being for the rights of the woman...
Diana
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30 Nov 2005 09:03:46 PM |
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DianaC wrote:
S. Maizlich wrote:
J Young wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed its
case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller and
claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the botched abortion
death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January 13,
2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the Wesley Medical
Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
Following a closed-door meeting, the Board of Healing Arts concluded a
nine-month investigation and determined that Tiller complied with state laws
and health care standards in his treatment of the woman, despite eventually
killing her.
This is really pretty meaningless. Some number of patients die in
surgery all the time. It isn't supposed to happen, and there are
supposed to be lots of measures taken to prevent it, but still it
happens. When it does, the doctor may be charged criminally with
negligence, and civilly might be sued for malpractice, but is never
charged with even manslaughter unless the negligence is gross.
Er..she didn't die in surgery. She went through what is, essentially,
childbirth. She was sent to a hotel room and misdiagnosed. Hello?
I'm beginning to wonder if any of you actually READ. Frankly, what I
saw in that story is this: if the woman had simply gone into labor
early, and had a stillbirth or a child who died soon after birth,
there is no way she would have been discharged immediately after the
birth and sent to a hotel room. She would have been monitored for a day
or so.
But because this was an induced labor (abortion) then politics seemed
to step in here, and she was sent to the hotel. And she died. And
because it was an abortion, not premature birth, everybody was out to
cover the doctor's butt for his malpractice. It wouldn't be politically
correct to sue a doctor for mismanaging an abortion. Believe me, if
that woman had been treated in that manner after an unintentional
miscarraige/premature labor, the decision would have been quite
different.
What is bothering me the most about this is that y'all who are for
abortion rights don't see the problem here. This woman was treated
differently because she was having an abortion rather than simply going
into early labor, and rather than getting upset because she was
obviously given a lesser standard of care, you are attempting to excuse
the doctor. So much for being for the rights of the woman...
Hold on. *I* am not trying to excuse anything by the doctor. I'm also
quite the opposite of an abortion rights advocate. I was simply
arguing with the implied point of the original poster: that the doctor
somehow is morally culpable for the death of the woman *not* because
the procedure was badly done, but because it was done at all. The
doctor was trying to kill the fetus, not the woman.
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| User: "DianaC" |
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01 Dec 2005 09:57:00 AM |
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S. Maizlich wrote:
DianaC wrote:
S. Maizlich wrote:
J Young wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed its
case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller and
claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the botched abortion
death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January 13,
2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the Wesley Medical
Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
Following a closed-door meeting, the Board of Healing Arts concluded a
nine-month investigation and determined that Tiller complied with state laws
and health care standards in his treatment of the woman, despite eventually
killing her.
This is really pretty meaningless. Some number of patients die in
surgery all the time. It isn't supposed to happen, and there are
supposed to be lots of measures taken to prevent it, but still it
happens. When it does, the doctor may be charged criminally with
negligence, and civilly might be sued for malpractice, but is never
charged with even manslaughter unless the negligence is gross.
Er..she didn't die in surgery. She went through what is, essentially,
childbirth. She was sent to a hotel room and misdiagnosed. Hello?
I'm beginning to wonder if any of you actually READ. Frankly, what I
saw in that story is this: if the woman had simply gone into labor
early, and had a stillbirth or a child who died soon after birth,
there is no way she would have been discharged immediately after the
birth and sent to a hotel room. She would have been monitored for a day
or so.
But because this was an induced labor (abortion) then politics seemed
to step in here, and she was sent to the hotel. And she died. And
because it was an abortion, not premature birth, everybody was out to
cover the doctor's butt for his malpractice. It wouldn't be politically
correct to sue a doctor for mismanaging an abortion. Believe me, if
that woman had been treated in that manner after an unintentional
miscarraige/premature labor, the decision would have been quite
different.
What is bothering me the most about this is that y'all who are for
abortion rights don't see the problem here. This woman was treated
differently because she was having an abortion rather than simply going
into early labor, and rather than getting upset because she was
obviously given a lesser standard of care, you are attempting to excuse
the doctor. So much for being for the rights of the woman...
Hold on. *I* am not trying to excuse anything by the doctor. I'm also
quite the opposite of an abortion rights advocate. I was simply
arguing with the implied point of the original poster: that the doctor
somehow is morally culpable for the death of the woman *not* because
the procedure was badly done, but because it was done at all. The
doctor was trying to kill the fetus, not the woman.
I would like to get more information about it than what is posted in
the opening article. I'm quite certain it is slanted, but I'm just
going by what facts I could tease out of it; the woman had a third
trimester abortion (essentially, childbirth at least as far as she is
concerned), was sent to a hotel room 'even though she was worsening'.
The RTL are blaming her for her own death for deciding to have the
abortion in the first place, and insinuating that she died because
abortion is dangerous. The pro-choice crew is not paying attention to
the possibilities that she WAS given a lesser standard of care, but are
too busy making saints out of the people who, either by honest error or
sheer neglect, missed a diagnosis and thereby letting a woman die. I
don't care whether this was an abortion or not. I focused solely on the
fact that they sent her to a hotel room even though she was going
south; and that they might have saved her had they kept her in the
hospital and properly monitored her.
I'm not on either side on this one, nobody is looking really good here.
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30 Nov 2005 10:23:10 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Had justice prevailed, the jebus death cult would have been wiped out in
ancient Rome.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
www.jesusneverexisted.com
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
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30 Nov 2005 01:34:31 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Yet women dying in childbirth are "statistically insignificant"
Go figure.
<the usual tripe snipped>
--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres on marital rape:
1414fd53.0312142051.5e760545@posting.google.com
Marriage is a contract in which everything is shared, including
bodies. What's yours is his and what's his is yours.
By withholding sex from him you violated your marriage vows. You
stole from your husband what was rightfully his.
1126802087.688528.21760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Making your mind up is called the marriage
certificate. If you want to change it, it's called a divorce.
1414fd53.0311032335.47dd4971@posting.google.com
How would a witnesses' opinion, or a DA's opinion, or
a jurist's opinion, or a judge's opinion of the significance of force
involved be relevant?
The issue is that you think the government and it's
various judicial arms should act as people's parents and guardians,
even when it isn't there and can't possibly mediate what goes on in the
privacy of someone's bedroom without resorting to testimony--"he said,
she said".
Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services
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| User: "Gaia" |
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30 Nov 2005 01:54:27 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Your evility knows no bounds...
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30 Nov 2005 09:43:17 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:08:08 -0500, J Young wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed its
case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller and
claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the botched abortion
death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January 13,
2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the Wesley Medical
Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
How could such a thing happen in Kansas, the intellectual Mecca of the
Midwest? Why didn't the angry mob just lynch him?
--
MarkA
(this space accidentally filled in)
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30 Nov 2005 09:50:59 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:08:08 -0500, J Young wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed its
case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller and
claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the botched abortion
death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January 13,
2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the Wesley Medical
Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
Following a closed-door meeting, the Board of Healing Arts concluded a
nine-month investigation and determined that Tiller complied with state laws
and health care standards in his treatment of the woman, despite eventually
killing her.
However, Gilbert's autopsy report specifically indicated that she died from
"complications to a therapeutic abortion."
Cheryl Sullenger, of Operation Rescue, which has closely followed the case,
said the documents they have obtained make it clear Tiller killed Gilbert.
"We believe the autopsy and other documents prove that he violated the
standard of care by misdiagnosing a life-threatening infection as
dehydration," she explained. Sullenger also said Tiller sent "her to an
unequipped hotel room instead of the hospital even though her condition was
worsening" following the botched abortion.
"I believe that every Kansan should be concerned about the Board being
unwilling to do their job to police the medical profession and protect the
health and safety of patients. Because they steadfastly refuse to do their
jobs, all Kansans are at risk," she added.
Larry Buening, the board's executive director, notified pro-abortion Gov.
Kathleen Sebelius of the board's conclusion in a letter he sent last week,
according to an Associated Press report. Sebelius' office released a copy of
the letter today.
Referring to Tiller, Buening wrote that "the unfortunate death of the
patient was not caused by any act or failure to act by Licensee or his
staff."
"The board has now concluded all inquiry and review of the matter and closed
the investigation," Buening wrote, according to the AP report.
The governor asked the board to investigate the death in February and
pro-life groups said her concern about the safety of women at abortion
facilities was too little too late after she twice vetoed a bill to put some
regulations in place.
Sebelius has also been accused of providing political cover for Tiller
because he has contributed thousands of dollars to her campaigns.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Why do I get the feeling that if this woman had died from complications
following a colon resection, Operation Rescue would have no problem
trusting the Medical Review Board's findings?
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MarkA
(this space accidentally filled in)
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
30 Nov 2005 09:53:48 PM |
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In article <pan.2005.12.01.03.50.54.225649@nowhere.com>, MarkA
<toor@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:08:08 -0500, J Young wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed its
case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller and
claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the botched abortion
death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January 13,
2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the Wesley Medical
Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
Following a closed-door meeting, the Board of Healing Arts concluded a
nine-month investigation and determined that Tiller complied with state laws
and health care standards in his treatment of the woman, despite eventually
killing her.
However, Gilbert's autopsy report specifically indicated that she died from
"complications to a therapeutic abortion."
Cheryl Sullenger, of Operation Rescue, which has closely followed the case,
said the documents they have obtained make it clear Tiller killed Gilbert.
"We believe the autopsy and other documents prove that he violated the
standard of care by misdiagnosing a life-threatening infection as
dehydration," she explained. Sullenger also said Tiller sent "her to an
unequipped hotel room instead of the hospital even though her condition was
worsening" following the botched abortion.
"I believe that every Kansan should be concerned about the Board being
unwilling to do their job to police the medical profession and protect the
health and safety of patients. Because they steadfastly refuse to do their
jobs, all Kansans are at risk," she added.
Larry Buening, the board's executive director, notified pro-abortion Gov.
Kathleen Sebelius of the board's conclusion in a letter he sent last week,
according to an Associated Press report. Sebelius' office released a copy of
the letter today.
Referring to Tiller, Buening wrote that "the unfortunate death of the
patient was not caused by any act or failure to act by Licensee or his
staff."
"The board has now concluded all inquiry and review of the matter and closed
the investigation," Buening wrote, according to the AP report.
The governor asked the board to investigate the death in February and
pro-life groups said her concern about the safety of women at abortion
facilities was too little too late after she twice vetoed a bill to put some
regulations in place.
Sebelius has also been accused of providing political cover for Tiller
because he has contributed thousands of dollars to her campaigns.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Why do I get the feeling that if this woman had died from complications
following a colon resection, Operation Rescue would have no problem
trusting the Medical Review Board's findings?
I didn't know those wackos in Operation Rescue were still around.
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged |
01 Dec 2005 06:35:15 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:53:48 +0000, David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <pan.2005.12.01.03.50.54.225649@nowhere.com>, MarkA
<toor@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:08:08 -0500, J Young wrote:
Had justice prevailed, this doctor would be charged with double
homocide.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Abortion Practitioner Who Killed Woman in Failed Abortion Not Charged
Wichita, KS(LifeNews.com) -- A Kansas state medical board has closed
its case concerning Wichita late-term abortion practitioner George
Tiller and claims neither he nor his staff were responsible for the
botched abortion death of a Kansas woman in January.
Christin A. Gilbert died after a third-trimester abortion on January
13, 2005. After the botched abortion, Gilbert was rushed into the
Wesley Medical Center ER, followed moments later by Tiller.
Following a closed-door meeting, the Board of Healing Arts concluded a
nine-month investigation and determined that Tiller complied with
state laws and health care standards in his treatment of the woman,
despite eventually killing her.
However, Gilbert's autopsy report specifically indicated that she died
from "complications to a therapeutic abortion."
Cheryl Sullenger, of Operation Rescue, which has closely followed the
case, said the documents they have obtained make it clear Tiller
killed Gilbert.
"We believe the autopsy and other documents prove that he violated the
standard of care by misdiagnosing a life-threatening infection as
dehydration," she explained. Sullenger also said Tiller sent "her to
an unequipped hotel room instead of the hospital even though her
condition was worsening" following the botched abortion.
"I believe that every Kansan should be concerned about the Board being
unwilling to do their job to police the medical profession and protect
the health and safety of patients. Because they steadfastly refuse to
do their jobs, all Kansans are at risk," she added.
Larry Buening, the board's executive director, notified pro-abortion
Gov. Kathleen Sebelius of the board's conclusion in a letter he sent
last week, according to an Associated Press report. Sebelius' office
released a copy of the letter today.
Referring to Tiller, Buening wrote that "the unfortunate death of the
patient was not caused by any act or failure to act by Licensee or his
staff."
"The board has now concluded all inquiry and review of the matter and
closed the investigation," Buening wrote, according to the AP report.
The governor asked the board to investigate the death in February and
pro-life groups said her concern about the safety of women at abortion
facilities was too little too late after she twice vetoed a bill to
put some regulations in place.
Sebelius has also been accused of providing political cover for Tiller
because he has contributed thousands of dollars to her campaigns.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1300.html
Why do I get the feeling that if this woman had died from complications
following a colon resection, Operation Rescue would have no problem
trusting the Medical Review Board's findings?
I didn't know those wackos in Operation Rescue were still around.
You would think that after their founder, Randall Terry, was
excommunicated from his own church for leaving his wife and kids and
shacking up with his secretary, they would at least change their name.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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