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"Steenkin Man" |
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05 Jul 2004 07:00:07 PM |
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Abortion "riskier than childbirth" |
A study of pregnancy-associated deaths, published in the latest issue
of the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, has found that
the mortality rate associated with abortion is 2.95 times higher than
that associated with pregnancies carried to term. The study included
the entire population of women 15 to 49 years of age in Finland
between 1987 and 2000. The researchers linked birth and abortion
records to death certificates.
The annual death rate of women who had an abortion in the previous
year was also 46 per cent higher than that of non-pregnant women.
Women who carried to term had a significantly lower death rate than
non-pregnant women. Non-pregnant women had 57 deaths per 100,000,
compared to 28.2 for women who carried to term, 51.9 for women who
miscarried, and 83.1 for women who had abortions. The authors, led by
Mika Gissler of Finland's National Research and Development Centre for
Welfare and Health, concluded that pregnancy contributes to a healthy
effect on women.
The study also revealed the difficulties involved in identifying
direct and indirect effects of pregnancy on subsequent deaths. An
examination of deaths from natural causes that were identified as "not
pregnancy related" revealed that women who had abortions were
significantly more likely (1.7 times) to die from natural causes that
were not attributed to pregnancy on the death certificates. They were
also 6.3 times more likely to die from violent causes.
This is the second record-based study to be published in the last 18
months to show that death rates following abortion are significantly
higher than those associated with birth. The other study, published in
the a Southern Medical Journal, linked death records to Medi-Cal
payments for births and abortions for approximately 173,000 low-income
Californian women. In that study, the researchers discovered that
women who had abortions were almost twice as likely to die in the
following two years and that the elevated mortality rate of aborting
women persisted over at least eight years.
http://www.theinterim.com/2004/apr/03abortion.html
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion "riskier than childbirth" |
05 Jul 2004 10:30:41 PM |
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"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2ku8cgF5l16jU1@uni-berlin.de...
A study of pregnancy-associated deaths, published in the latest issue
of the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology,
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One women dies giving birth every 30 minutes in Afghanistan
and every 20 minutes in Africa.
Do they also warn women of the dangers of term pregnancy and
birth?.......like:
http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml
http://www.imnotsorry.net/
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
The risk of death associated with childbirth is about 11 times as high as
that associated with abortion.
http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00054602.htm
http://www.afterabortion.org/news/deaths_smj.html
FP........
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| User: "Philip Lewis" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion "riskier than childbirth" |
06 Jul 2004 06:09:47 AM |
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"Flower Power" <IndependantWomen@NOSlave.net> wrote in message
news:TIydnd3KG6t4gXfdRVn-tA@heartoftn.net...
"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2ku8cgF5l16jU1@uni-berlin.de...
A study of pregnancy-associated deaths, published in the latest issue
of the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology,
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One women dies giving birth every 30 minutes in Afghanistan
and every 20 minutes in Africa.
The study was done in Finland amongst a wealthier population with better
social and medical facilities, when Africa and Afghanistan have similiar
conditions then a comparison can be made.
Do they also warn women of the dangers of term pregnancy and
birth?.......like:
http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml
http://www.imnotsorry.net/
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
The risk of death associated with childbirth is about 11 times as high as
that associated with abortion.
Yeah right - I checked out that claim and all I got was a lots of 'ibid's
ultimately referring to some book called 'AGI, Abortion and Women's Health:
A Turning Point for America? New York: AGI, 1990' - no reference was made to
any actual research or study that may have backed that claim within the
book, also the book is 14years old and hardly likely to be on most peoples
bookshelves.
In short the claim is questionable to say the very least!
http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00054602.htm
There is a chart and much preamble on maternal mortality but nothing
similiar for abortion related mortality!
http://www.afterabortion.org/news/deaths_smj.html
*ROFLMAO* I think you would be well advised to READ what is pointed to by
the above!!!!
Phil
FP........
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| User: "Shawn Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion "riskier than childbirth" |
05 Jul 2004 08:10:17 PM |
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In article <2ku8cgF5l16jU1@uni-berlin.de>,
Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:
This is the second record-based study to be published in the last 18
months to show that death rates following abortion are significantly
higher than those associated with birth. The other study, published in
the a Southern Medical Journal, linked death records to Medi-Cal
payments for births and abortions for approximately 173,000 low-income
Californian women. In that study, the researchers discovered that
women who had abortions were almost twice as likely to die in the
following two years and that the elevated mortality rate of aborting
women persisted over at least eight years.
http://www.theinterim.com/2004/apr/03abortion.html
How about a real cite to this article. I checked the latest (May '04)
journal and I see nothing like this article there.
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion "riskier than childbirth" |
06 Jul 2004 11:51:26 AM |
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Shawn Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<srhi-9A8522.21101705072004@news-40.sjc.giganews.com>...
In article <2ku8cgF5l16jU1@uni-berlin.de>,
Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:
This is the second record-based study to be published in the last 18
months to show that death rates following abortion are significantly
higher than those associated with birth. The other study, published in
the a Southern Medical Journal, linked death records to Medi-Cal
payments for births and abortions for approximately 173,000 low-income
Californian women. In that study, the researchers discovered that
women who had abortions were almost twice as likely to die in the
following two years and that the elevated mortality rate of aborting
women persisted over at least eight years.
http://www.theinterim.com/2004/apr/03abortion.html
How about a real cite to this article. I checked the latest (May '04)
journal and I see nothing like this article there.
This is old stuff. This "study" was posted on talk.abortion and
debunked 2 year ago. Malapert delivered the definitive smack-down,
which goes as follows:
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Yes. For instance, they were twice as likely to die from AIDS, three
times as like to die from circulatory disease and a whopping six times
likelier to die from stroke. Hmmm. How can we explain this?
Very simply, actually. As the researchers are forced to admit, "An
important limitation in our study is that we were not provided with
ANY INFORMATION REGARDING RACE, MARITAL STATUS, AND PARITY."
(Emphasis mine.)
If we did have that information, we would find that a disproportionate
number of women having abortions were black and Hispanic, compared to
those carrying to term. If we then compared death rates for
Medical-eligible women by race, marital status, and parity, we would
find that black and Hispanic women, unmarried women, and/or women with
lots of children die from homicides, accidents, AIDS, circulatory
diseases and stroke at higher rates than white, married, and/or
low-parity women, whether they've ever had an abortion or not.
In other words, once again, this gives us no useful information
because dissimilar groups of women are being compared. For the
millionth time:
////Women who have abortions are not like women who carry their
pregnancies to term.//// They are darker, poorer, younger, and
unhealthier, and are likelier to meet untimely death whether they have
abortions, give birth, or never become pregnant to begin with. Not
having an abortion does not magically turn these women into white,
married, low-risk women. All it does is add a(nother) child to the
chaotic state their lives are in.
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| User: "spooge" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion "riskier than childbirth" |
05 Jul 2004 09:22:56 PM |
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Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:2ku8cgF5l16jU1@uni-berlin.de:
A study
Did your Mother sue the back-room butcher that botched your abortion?
If she hasn't yet, she could use your Usenet posts as evidence of the
brain-damage you suffered.
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