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"Freedom Fries" |
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14 May 2005 12:37:32 PM |
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Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
Often times a young girl gets pregnant while too emotionally immature to
handle the consequences or a pregnancy. The girl has to make choices she
isn't ready to make.
It would help if she could take the problem home. Explain to her parents
what happened. The problem is the girl can't look to the her parents for
love and support. To them her daughter is a sinner for not waiting until
marriage to have sex. Her parents faith won't allow them the compassion
necessary to help her through this crisis.
She's forced to turn to an abortion clinic for help and support. This
wouldn't be necessary if her parents had a more mature, enlightened
perspective. Young girls have to turn to abortion because they can't count
on the people they need the most; their fanatical Jesus Freak parents.
Christianity is second to poverty for the reasons why people have abortions.
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devil. Jesus is returning soon! And the One whom you deny existed said,
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| User: "Maaxx" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
15 May 2005 02:10:10 PM |
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"Freedom Fries" <nukeredumblicans@ussr.ru> wrote in
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Abortion the Fault of Christianity
Actually, it's the fault of leftards who think that a woman should be
allowed to kill her own children.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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15 May 2005 03:02:34 PM |
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Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
"Freedom Fries" <nukeredumblicans@ussr.ru> wrote in
Abortion the Fault of Christianity
Actually, it's the fault of leftards who think that a woman should be
allowed to kill her own children.
And there's more of the hate and lies that typifies that right-wing
bigot.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "DarkSheer" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
17 May 2005 12:16:48 PM |
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Maaxx wrote:
"Freedom Fries" <nukeredumblicans@ussr.ru> wrote in
news:42863950_1@x-privat.org:
Abortion the Fault of Christianity
Actually, it's the fault of leftards who think that a woman should be
allowed to kill her own children.
Not a child yet. Just a collection of cells that could one day turn into a
child. I doubt it even has a "soul" at that time.
Ryan
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| User: "Trent Woodruff" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
14 May 2005 01:03:03 PM |
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Freedom Fries was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
Often times a young girl gets pregnant while too emotionally immature to
handle the consequences or a pregnancy. The girl has to make choices she
isn't ready to make.
It would help if she could take the problem home. Explain to her parents
what happened. The problem is the girl can't look to the her parents for
love and support.
More often than not, this precise problem you outline is NOT
religion-related. More often than not, it is a
parental-responsibility problem, not a parental-religion problem.
Far too many parents aren't willing to discuss sex and its various
consequences with their kids in a manner that would gain the
childrens' understanding. More often than not, this isn't because of
religion at all, but rather personal discomfort or laziness on the
parts of the parents.
But don't let that get in the way of your idiotic anti-religious rant.
Trent
Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
....To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
14 May 2005 05:32:40 PM |
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Trent Woodruff wrote:
Freedom Fries was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
Often times a young girl gets pregnant while too emotionally
immature to
handle the consequences or a pregnancy. The girl has to make choices
she
isn't ready to make.
It would help if she could take the problem home. Explain to her
parents
what happened. The problem is the girl can't look to the her parents
for
love and support.
More often than not, this precise problem you outline is NOT
religion-related. More often than not, it is a
parental-responsibility problem, not a parental-religion problem.
Exactly
Far too many parents aren't willing to discuss sex and its various
consequences with their kids in a manner that would gain the
childrens' understanding.
Agreed. I know for many parents it's uncomfortable; regardless though,
it's a fact of life.
More often than not, this isn't because of
religion at all, but rather personal discomfort or laziness on the
parts of the parents.
But don't let that get in the way of your idiotic anti-religious
rant.
I think that's their only purpose, to just attack religion. Often
times I think they don't really care about the problem as much as they
do looking for an opportunity to attack religion.
Trent
Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone
and a funny bone.
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| User: "Stormin Mormon" |
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15 May 2005 06:50:07 AM |
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And whose fault is that? I can't speak for all of Christianity, but the LDS
church teaches chastity before marriage, and honor and faithfulness during
marriage.
In other words, a proper LDS person does not have sexual relations until
marriage. And then sex only with ones spouse.
Take your blame game some where else. Your argument is both false and
pathetic.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com
"Freedom Fries" <nukeredumblicans@ussr.ru> wrote in message
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Often times a young girl gets pregnant while too emotionally immature to
handle the consequences or a pregnancy.
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| User: "Rob Browning" |
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15 May 2005 02:55:02 PM |
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 11:50:07 GMT, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote:
And whose fault is that? I can't speak for all of Christianity, but the LDS
church teaches chastity before marriage, and honor and faithfulness during
marriage.
Because, you know, that's realistic.
Rob
ploovTeHSPaeMBLoKuR@charter.net
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"He looks like he'd get cut out of a Final Fantasy game for being 'too
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the Apollo for being 'too black.'"
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| User: "one.with.Christ" |
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16 May 2005 10:44:29 PM |
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You can't speak for Christianity at all, cultist.
You show me a proper LDS person and I'll show you a liar.
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:PHGhe.22508$eU.3331@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
And whose fault is that? I can't speak for all of Christianity, but the LDS
church teaches chastity before marriage, and honor and faithfulness during
marriage.
In other words, a proper LDS person does not have sexual relations until
marriage. And then sex only with ones spouse.
Take your blame game some where else. Your argument is both false and
pathetic.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com
"Freedom Fries" <nukeredumblicans@ussr.ru> wrote in message
news:42863950_1@x-privat.org...
Often times a young girl gets pregnant while too emotionally immature to
handle the consequences or a pregnancy.
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| User: "Trent Woodruff" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
17 May 2005 01:33:33 AM |
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one.with.Christ was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
You can't speak for Christianity at all, cultist.
You show me a proper LDS person and I'll show you a liar.
So much for that "love and compassion" ***** you were spouting a
moment ago.
You're just another bigot in sheep's clothing.
Trent
Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
....To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
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| User: "one.with.Christ" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
17 May 2005 03:47:19 PM |
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"Trent Woodruff" <woodruffs@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:4289901d.12026922@news.cableone.net...
one.with.Christ was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
You can't speak for Christianity at all, cultist.
You show me a proper LDS person and I'll show you a liar.
So much for that "love and compassion" ***** you were spouting a
moment ago.
You're just another bigot in sheep's clothing.
Not even. I have plenty of love and compassion, but defame the name of God and
I have a load of truth for you. Make a mockery of Christianity and no I don't
have tolerance for that, I do have the truth which sometimes works like a semi.
Runs right over you. So call me a bigot for standing up for my beliefs if you
wish, but consider what that makes you.
Trent
Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny
bone.
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| User: "Mike Andrade" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
17 May 2005 04:22:33 PM |
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
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Mike
Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help! I'm
being repressed!
- Monty Python
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| User: "one.with.Christ" |
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18 May 2005 11:42:22 AM |
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"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue. I know what is true and what
isn't, the bible is true.
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Mike
Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help! I'm
being repressed!
- Monty Python
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| User: "Mike Andrade" |
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18 May 2005 05:03:43 PM |
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116434556.b857f37ecf15a591de15b07e9dd5f4c0@teranews:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue.
Which one?
I know what is
true and what isn't, the bible is true.
And Mormons "know" that Joseph Smith was a prophet. What's the
difference?
--
Mike
"Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too
long." - Ogden Nash
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| User: "one.with.Christ" |
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18 May 2005 11:51:10 PM |
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"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116434556.b857f37ecf15a591de15b07e9dd5f4c0@teranews:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue.
Which one?
I like the Today's English Version, personally. The King James works, as does
the NIV or the New Revised Standard. Heck just read one that is a translation
and not a paraphrase.
I know what is
true and what isn't, the bible is true.
And Mormons "know" that Joseph Smith was a prophet. What's the
difference?
Joseph Smith was a false prophet and shown to be by the very works he created.
Joseph Smith was a scam artist, looking for power over people. Jesus Christ was
God, putting the relationship with his creation back where it was supposed to
be.
--
Mike
"Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too
long." - Ogden Nash
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| User: "Mike Andrade" |
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19 May 2005 06:27:43 AM |
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116478275.873a8c183d1c46850813753e6ebda816@teranews:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116434556.b857f37ecf15a591de15b07e9dd5f4c0@teranews:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue.
Which one?
I like the Today's English Version, personally. The King James
works, as does the NIV or the New Revised Standard. Heck just
read one that is a translation and not a paraphrase.
What about the baghavad gita? It's older.
I know what is
true and what isn't, the bible is true.
And Mormons "know" that Joseph Smith was a prophet. What's the
difference?
Joseph Smith was a false prophet and shown to be by the very works
he created.
So you say. Mormons say differently. So?
Joseph Smith was a scam artist, looking for power over
people.
So you say. Mormons say differently. So?
Jesus Christ was God, putting the relationship with his
creation back where it was supposed to be.
So you say.
--
Mike
You've got to be honest; if you can fake that, you've got it made.
- George Burns
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| User: "Lord Hatred" |
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18 May 2005 12:10:44 PM |
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In article <1116434556.b857f37ecf15a591de15b07e9dd5f4c0@teranews>,
"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue. I know what is true and what
isn't, the bible is true.
Heres a clue: if it uses language then it cannot be true. Language is
inherently subjective. Subjective truths can not be universal truths.
--
Stefan: Leader of the Cult of Meh
http://www.livejournal.com/users/lord_hatred/
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| User: "one.with.Christ" |
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18 May 2005 04:23:58 PM |
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"Lord Hatred" <lordhatred@spammelatergmail.com> wrote in message
news:lordhatred-6D320B.13092718052005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
In article <1116434556.b857f37ecf15a591de15b07e9dd5f4c0@teranews>,
"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue. I know what is true and what
isn't, the bible is true.
Heres a clue: if it uses language then it cannot be true. Language is
inherently subjective. Subjective truths can not be universal truths.
then none of the words you use or can use mean anything, according to you anyway
--
Stefan: Leader of the Cult of Meh
http://www.livejournal.com/users/lord_hatred/
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18 May 2005 04:40:02 PM |
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in message
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"Lord Hatred" <lordhatred@spammelatergmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <1116434556.b857f37ecf15a591de15b07e9dd5f4c0@teranews>,
"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue. I know what is true and
what
isn't, the bible is true.
Heres a clue: if it uses language then it cannot be true. Language is
inherently subjective. Subjective truths can not be universal truths.
then none of the words you use or can use mean anything, according to you
anyway
In some sense, you are correct. Your mind has just expanded infinitesimally.
Cherish this moment, it probably won't come again.
--
C The Shocker
2005 King of RSPW
Apathetic Member of the Cult of Meh
You eat pieces of ***** for breakfast?
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| User: "Lord Hatred" |
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18 May 2005 04:39:10 PM |
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In article <1116451444.d4a5b7cfd807505941f4e00c8cf55e49@teranews>,
"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote:
"Lord Hatred" <lordhatred@spammelatergmail.com> wrote in message
news:lordhatred-6D320B.13092718052005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
In article <1116434556.b857f37ecf15a591de15b07e9dd5f4c0@teranews>,
"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue. I know what is true and
what
isn't, the bible is true.
Heres a clue: if it uses language then it cannot be true. Language is
inherently subjective. Subjective truths can not be universal truths.
then none of the words you use or can use mean anything, according to you
anyway
Words can have meaning but they can not be meaning.
Let's use an example from the Bible that I use quite frequently. It
states that the nails were driven through Jesus's hands when he was
crucified. However, we know this can't be true because he would have
fallen right off. The problem is that Aramaic did not have a word for
"wrist". When you read the passage(s) what you are reading isn't true.
It's the closest their language allowed to truth. Near truth isn't the
same as truth the same as a baseball hit to the warning track isn't an
automatic home run.
--
Stefan: Leader of the Cult of Meh
http://www.livejournal.com/users/lord_hatred/
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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19 May 2005 09:59:42 PM |
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one.with.Christ <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote:
"Lord Hatred" <lordhatred@spammelatergmail.com> wrote in message
news:lordhatred-6D320B.13092718052005@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
In article <1116434556.b857f37ecf15a591de15b07e9dd5f4c0@teranews>,
"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue. I know what is true and what
isn't, the bible is true.
Heres a clue: if it uses language then it cannot be true. Language is
inherently subjective. Subjective truths can not be universal truths.
then none of the words you use or can use mean anything, according to you anyway
Fallacy of the false dichotomy. Words can have meaning even if they
are not Objective Truth.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "C The Shocker" |
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18 May 2005 12:19:31 PM |
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Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue. I know what is true and
what
isn't, the bible is true.
Wow, that has to be the most blatently retarded sentance I've ever read.
--
C The Shocker
2005 King of RSPW
Apathetic Member of the Cult of Meh
You eat pieces of ***** for breakfast?
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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18 May 2005 01:03:36 PM |
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one.with.Christ wrote:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue.
The true is, he probably has read it, so he has more of a clue than you
do.
I know what is true and what
isn't, the bible is true.
And how do you know that Bible is true? And why? Just because the
Bible says that it is true does not make it true, nor does your
unsupported opinion.
The first statement (it is true because I say it is true) is used in
practically every ad campaign, every scam artist and con man, and by
every elected official that has ever existed. Just because someone
says that something is true does not make it true. That is why
objective supporting evidence is looked for and requested, evidence
that does not depend on "faith" or the person's religious beliefs.
After all, why should the Bible be true, and not the Vedas of Hinduism
or the Book of Shadows of the Wiccans? They all have the same level of
evidence to support them.
Mark Sebree
--
Mike
Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help!
I'm
being repressed!
- Monty Python
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| User: "one.with.Christ" |
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18 May 2005 04:32:21 PM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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one.with.Christ wrote:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
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I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue.
The true is, he probably has read it, so he has more of a clue than you
do.
Careful, I've not just read the bible
I know what is true and what
isn't, the bible is true.
And how do you know that Bible is true? And why? Just because the
Bible says that it is true does not make it true, nor does your
unsupported opinion.
Nothing contained in the bible has ever been proven false for starters and for a
non-believer the word of God is a stumbling block. It seems to be working.
The first statement (it is true because I say it is true) is used in
practically every ad campaign, every scam artist and con man, and by
every elected official that has ever existed. Just because someone
says that something is true does not make it true. That is why
objective supporting evidence is looked for and requested, evidence
that does not depend on "faith" or the person's religious beliefs.
After all, why should the Bible be true, and not the Vedas of Hinduism
or the Book of Shadows of the Wiccans? They all have the same level of
evidence to support them.
Not even close and the bible isn't true just because I say it is, millions upon
millions have the same opinion, but even that isn't enough to just say it's
true. The writers of the gospels basically told those around them that they
knew what was being written was true and if not then refute it publically. In
other words they said "prove it" if it isn't so. No one ever did or will, but
then they couldn't/can't.
If nothing else Jesus Christ changes lives, plain and simple. IF you really
want to know if this is true or not, ask him and not me.
Mark Sebree
--
Mike
Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help!
I'm
being repressed!
- Monty Python
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| User: "Mike Andrade" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
18 May 2005 05:04:55 PM |
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
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Nothing contained in the bible has ever been proven false
Really? Apparently you haven't read much else.
--
Mike
"I am not a glutton - I am an explorer of food."
- Erma Bombeck
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| User: "one.with.Christ" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
18 May 2005 11:47:37 PM |
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"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
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Nothing contained in the bible has ever been proven false
Really? Apparently you haven't read much else.
Proven wrong, I said. I've read plenty. If you think something in scripture is
wrong or that it contradicts other scripture, you don't understand scripture.
--
Mike
"I am not a glutton - I am an explorer of food."
- Erma Bombeck
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| User: "Mike Andrade" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
19 May 2005 06:24:54 AM |
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
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"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116451945.bbb6a1278b269b35bf127ff3e813c4c9@teranews:
Nothing contained in the bible has ever been proven false
Really? Apparently you haven't read much else.
Proven wrong, I said. I've read plenty. If you think something
in scripture is wrong or that it contradicts other scripture, you
don't understand scripture.
Uh huh. Tell me, do rabbits chew their cuds?
--
Mike
My friends tell me I have intimacy issues. But they don't really
know me.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
19 May 2005 10:01:38 PM |
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one.with.Christ <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
And how do you know that Bible is true? And why? Just because the
Bible says that it is true does not make it true, nor does your
unsupported opinion.
Nothing contained in the bible has ever been proven false for starters and for a
non-believer the word of God is a stumbling block. It seems to be working.
Nothing in the Silmarrilion has even been proven false. Does that
mean that Middle Earth really existed?
And you haven't proven the Koran false either.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
19 May 2005 10:21:50 PM |
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one.with.Christ wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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one.with.Christ wrote:
"Mike Andrade" <ma@box.invalid> wrote in message
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in
news:1116362855.0a1cfa6fe50ae2aff19876f0b17a39d9@teranews:
I do have the truth
No you don't.
Read the bible, that ought to give you a clue.
The true is, he probably has read it, so he has more of a clue than
you
do.
Careful, I've not just read the bible
However, you apparently have not read much else, especially things that
do not assume that what the Bible states is automatically true because
the Bible states that it is true.
I know what is true and what
isn't, the bible is true.
And how do you know that Bible is true? And why? Just because the
Bible says that it is true does not make it true, nor does your
unsupported opinion.
Nothing contained in the bible has ever been proven false for
starters
Actually, effectively, it has. There was no world wide flood. There
is no sign that there was a large migration of Hebrews from Egypt. The
world never stopped or reversed its rotation. The order of evolution
in Genesis is mostly backwards. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
and for a
non-believer the word of God is a stumbling block. It seems to be
working.
However, it is not the job of the non-believer to prove the Bible
false, it is the job of the believer to prove it true. You are trying
to shift the burden of proof, which is a logical fallacy.
The first statement (it is true because I say it is true) is used
in
practically every ad campaign, every scam artist and con man, and
by
every elected official that has ever existed. Just because someone
says that something is true does not make it true. That is why
objective supporting evidence is looked for and requested, evidence
that does not depend on "faith" or the person's religious beliefs.
After all, why should the Bible be true, and not the Vedas of
Hinduism
or the Book of Shadows of the Wiccans? They all have the same
level of
evidence to support them.
Not even close
Actually, they are. They all have the same level of evidence to
support them, which amounts to myths and legends rather than facts.
and the bible isn't true just because I say it is, millions upon
millions have the same opinion, but even that isn't enough to just
say it's
true.
An accurate statement.
The writers of the gospels basically told those around them that
they
knew what was being written was true and if not then refute it
publically. In
other words they said "prove it" if it isn't so.
A logical fallacy. It is the job of the writers to prove it true, not
everyone else's job to prove them false.
No one ever did or will, but
then they couldn't/can't.
Which is not the point. Nobody has ever proven that the more
outrageous claims and events of the Bible ever happened, and they never
will. It is not the job of others to prove you what you say is false,
it is your job to prove what you say is true.
If nothing else Jesus Christ changes lives, plain and simple.
So does BUddha, Vishnu, the Goddess, and every other deity.
IF you really
want to know if this is true or not, ask him and not me.
What is his phone number? He is not posting, but you are. And how can
I ask someone that only exists in your imagination anything?
Mark Sebree
Mark Sebree
--
Mike
Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help,
help!
I'm
being repressed!
- Monty Python
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| User: "C The Shocker" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
17 May 2005 03:52:49 PM |
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"one.with.Christ" <one.with.Christ@Christ.is.all.org> wrote in message
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"Trent Woodruff" <woodruffs@cableone.net> wrote in message
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one.with.Christ was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
You can't speak for Christianity at all, cultist.
You show me a proper LDS person and I'll show you a liar.
So much for that "love and compassion" ***** you were spouting a
moment ago.
You're just another bigot in sheep's clothing.
Not even. I have plenty of love and compassion, but defame the name of
God and
I have a load of truth for you. Make a mockery of Christianity and no I
don't
have tolerance for that, I do have the truth which sometimes works like a
semi.
Runs right over you. So call me a bigot for standing up for my beliefs if
you
wish, but consider what that makes you.
Wow, you are one brainwashed sumbitch.
--
C The Shocker
2005 King of RSPW
Apathetic Member of the Cult of Meh
You eat pieces of ***** for breakfast?
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| User: "Trent Woodruff" |
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| Title: Re: Abortion the Fault of Christianity |
17 May 2005 05:47:34 PM |
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one.with.Christ was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
"Trent Woodruff" <woodruffs@cableone.net> wrote in message
one.with.Christ was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...
You can't speak for Christianity at all, cultist.
You show me a proper LDS person and I'll show you a liar.
So much for that "love and compassion" ***** you were spouting a
moment ago.
You're just another bigot in sheep's clothing.
Not even. I have plenty of love and compassion, but defame the name of God and
I have a load of truth for you.
He didn't defame the name of God in the slightest, you freaking
hypocrite.
Make a mockery of Christianity and no I don't have tolerance for that
He didn't make a mocker of Christianity in the slightest, you freaking
hypocrite.
I do have the truth which sometimes works like a semi.
Runs right over you. So call me a bigot for standing up for my beliefs if you
wish, but consider what that makes you.
Not only are you clearly a bigot, but you're also one of the biggest
hypocrites I've seen. God is most assuredly ashamed of you.
Trent
Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger
....To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
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