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"Richy 36" |
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04 Dec 2003 07:16:09 PM |
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Abortionists are money hungry liar$! don't be fooled |
the scheme that pro lifers have come up with is their suggestion that
abortion can save "a woman's life".
that is a complete lie!
it has been documented a thousand times over that no woman is ever the
same after an abortion.
they are loaded with guilt, their nervous system collapses, and they end
up on a psychiatrist couch.
those are the 3 steps that follow every abortion--if they make it to the
third step. many contemplate suicide soon thereafter. again, though,
it's understandable--they've destroyed the precious baby from their
womb!
it is about feminist groups making money off of human lives-- the lives
of both the mother and the child. then they simply throw the woman away.
check and see how many pro choice groups will provide you with a
psychiatrist afterwards. they've made their money, and they couldn't
care less!
Save your life as well as your baby's by not having an abortion.
If you've already had one, then please seek christian counselling. they
will be there for you free of charge!
there is hope in Jesus!
Richy
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| User: "Mustardismypal" |
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| Title: Re: Abortionists are money hungry liar$! don't be fooled |
04 Dec 2003 10:33:19 PM |
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those are the 3 steps that follow every abortion-
thats funny,I have known women that have aborted and expirienced NONE of what
you have mentioned,richy.I would also like to know where you get your info.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Abortionists are money hungry liar$! don't be fooled |
05 Dec 2003 02:46:33 PM |
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:16:09 -0600 (CST), (Richy 36) in
alt.abortion with message-id
<2113-3FCFDC59-174@storefull-2212.public.lawson.webtv.net> wrote:
there is hope in Jesus!
Can you prove any such person ever existed?
I didn't think so.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Pro-liars are money hungry terrorists! don't be fooled |
04 Dec 2003 10:55:35 PM |
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Richy 36 <richy36@webtv.net> wrote:
the scheme that pro lifers have come up with is their suggestion that
abortion can save "a woman's life".
that is a complete lie!
Childbirth is roughly ten times as likely to kill a woman as is an
abortion. That according to the United States government.
it has been documented a thousand times over that no woman is ever the
same after an abortion.
they are loaded with guilt,
Abortion doesn't affect well-being, study says
New York Times (as printed in the San Jose Mercury 2/12/97)
Abortion does not trigger lasting emotional trauma in young women who
are psychologically healthy before they become pregnant, an eight-year
study of nearly 5,300 women has shown. Women who are in poor shape
emotionally after an abortion are likely to have been feeling bad about
their lives before terminating their pregnancies, the researchers said.
The findings, the researchers say, challenge the validity of laws
that have been proposed in many states, and passed in several, mandating
that women seeking abortions be informed of mental health risks.
The researchers, Dr. Nancy Felipe Russo, a psychologist at Arizona
State University in Tempe, and Dr. Amy Dabul Marin, a psychologist at
Phoenix College, examined the effects of race and religion on the
well-being of 773 women who reported on sealed questionnaires that
they had undergone abortions, and they compared the results with the
emotional status of women who did not report abortions.
The women, initially 14 to 24 years old, completed questionnaires and
were interviewed each year for eight years, starting in 1979. In 1980
and in 1987, the interview also included a standardized test that
measures overall well-being, the Rosenberg Self-Esteem Scale.
"Given the persistent assertion that abortion is associated with
negative outcomes, the lack of any results in the context of such a
large sample is noteworthy," the researchers wrote. The study took
into account many factors that can influence a woman's emotional
well-being, including education, employment, income, the presence of
a spouse and the number of children.
Higher self-esteem was associated with being employed, having a
higher income, having more years of education and bearing fewer children,
but having had an abortion "did not make a difference," the researchers
reported. And the women's religious affiliations and degree of involvement
with religion did not have an independent effect on their long-term
reaction to abortion. Rather, the women's psychological well-being before
having abortions accounted for their mental state in the years after the
abortion, the researchers said..
In considering the influence of race, the researchers again found
that the women's level of self-esteem before having abortions was the
strongest predictor of their well-being after an abortion.
"Although highly religious Catholic women were slightly more likely
to exhibit post-abortion psychological distress than other women, this
fact is explained by lower pre-existing self-esteem," the researchers
wrote in the current issue of Professional Psychology: Research and
Practice, a journal of the American Psychological Association.
Overall, Catholic women who attended church one or more times a week,
even those who had not had abortions, had generally lower self-esteem
than other women, although within the normal range, so it was hardly
surprising that they also had lower self-esteem after abortions, the
researchers said in interviews.
Gail Quinn, executive director of anti-abortion activities for the
United States Catholic Conference, said the findings belied the
experience of post-abortion counselors. She said, "While many women
express `relief' following an abortion, the relief is transitory."
In the long term, the experience prompts "hurting people to seek the
help of post-abortion healing services," she said.
The president of the National Right to Life Committee, Dr. Wanda
Franz, who earned her doctorate in developmental psychology, challenged
the researchers' conclusions. She said their assessment of self-esteem
"does not measure if a woman is mentally healthy," adding, "This requires
a specialist who performs certain tests, not a self-assessment of how
the woman feels about herself."
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mizzyandrea" |
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| Title: Re: Abortionists are money hungry liar$! don't be fooled |
04 Dec 2003 10:57:11 PM |
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Save your life as well as your baby's by not having an abortion.
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MY "baby" is now 17...........the abortion I had meant nothing to us...........
that was an embryo.
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| User: "Richy 36" |
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| Title: Re: Andrea, I'm sorry!!! |
06 Dec 2003 05:13:47 AM |
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Andrea, I'm sure sorry if I said anything to hurt your feelings. that
was never my intention!!!
It's just that I could tell by the way you defended abortion, that you
yourself had had one.
Thank you so much for acknowledging it. that's the first step to
complete recovery.
Like I said, Jesus certainly is not angry at someone who has had an
abortion. "all sins shall be forgiven" (matthew 12)
Just like you had your child 17 yrs ago, you would not take the world
for that child. my heart is so lifted up that you made the right
choice!!!
You can be an inspiration to other women-- that a child is such a
blessing.
I'm proud of you
Richy
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Andrea, I'm sorry!!! |
07 Dec 2003 11:19:43 AM |
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 05:13:47 -0600 (CST),
Richy36 <richy36@webtv.net> (who MAY soimeday
grow up and get himself a REAL computer) wrote:
Andrea, I'm sure sorry if I said anything to hurt your feelings.
That was never my intention!!!
Bullcrap!!!
It's just that I could tell by the way you defended abortion,
that you yourself had had one.
And my guess is that sometimes a person could tell from
something being said that they had taken aspiris to remedy
headaches, too. JUST as relevant. A remedy is a remedy.
Some (like abortion) simply are more BENEFICIAL than others.
Thank you so much for acknowledging it. that's the first
step to complete recovery.
If she's like MOST women, the complete recovery only
took MINUTES. That's all the time that it takes to recover
from an unwanted pregnancy, after arriving at the clinic.
<remaining idiodic tripe snipped>
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Richy 36" |
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| Title: Re: Andrea, I'm sorry!!! |
07 Dec 2003 05:14:48 PM |
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that's ok craig. <snips> from the truth are what keeps the un knowing
abortion protesters carrying the signs. they then get the truth, and
like "Jane Roe" realize their error.
the truth does hurt, I'm sure!
Richy
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Andrea, I'm sorry!!! |
07 Dec 2003 07:27:44 PM |
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:14:48 -0600 (CST),
"Richy36" <richy36@webtv.net> (wh MAY someday
grow up and get hinself a REAL computer) spewed...
... Nothing but utter, lying stupidity.
Situation normal.
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "Mustardismypal" |
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| Title: Re: Abortionists are money hungry liar$! don't be fooled |
04 Dec 2003 10:31:07 PM |
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richy, mind your own FUCKING business!!!!!
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