Science > Abortion > ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law
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27 Dec 2005 11:50:17 PM |
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ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent person as
anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-cppledge23dec23%2C0%2C1183444.story?coll=sfla-news-sfla
ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law
Cameron Frazier's refusal to stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance
at Boynton Beach High School is sparking a Constitutional battle against his
teacher and the Palm Beach County School Board.
Backed by the American Civil Liberties Union, the 17-year-old junior
claims in a federal lawsuit filed Thursday that he was ridiculed and
punished Dec. 8 when he twice refused to stand for the pledge during his
fourth-period algebra class.
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28 Dec 2005 12:37:12 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent person as
anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one nation,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 7, San Antonio 1 (December 26)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, December 28 vs. Iowa, 7:05
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| User: "Virgil" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
28 Dec 2005 02:15:34 AM |
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In article <szkoe31sp5z.fsf@eris.io.com>,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent person as
anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one nation,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
That's the way it was in my youth, it is how I learnt it, and how I
still say it.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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28 Dec 2005 10:39:44 AM |
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Virgil <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> writes:
In article <szkoe31sp5z.fsf@eris.io.com>,
The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent person as
anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one nation,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
That's the way it was in my youth, it is how I learnt it, and how I
still say it.
You'd be pretty old, then, considering the "to my flag" was replaced with "to
the flag of the United States" in 1923...but I have no problems with either,
as I had the luck to be born the year after McCarthy's rabid weasels managed
to get their version approved. I'll stick with the original - it worked for
us for 60-odd years.
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 7, San Antonio 1 (December 26)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, December 28 vs. Iowa, 7:05
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
28 Dec 2005 10:53:48 AM |
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The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent person as
anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one nation,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Do you think JIben knows that "under g-d" wasn't added until Congress
inserted those words?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
28 Dec 2005 11:30:02 AM |
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Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> writes:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent person as
anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one nation,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Do you think JIben knows that "under g-d" wasn't added until Congress inserted
those words?
Why worry about it? His story changes with every article.
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 7, San Antonio 1 (December 26)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, December 28 vs. Iowa, 7:05
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| User: "Mike Lepore" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
29 Dec 2005 02:19:28 AM |
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I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
That's no good either. Requiring that in school would infringe on the rights
of the students who advocate the overthrow of the government.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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31 Dec 2005 12:11:20 AM |
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"Mike Lepore" <lepore5@bestweb.net> writes:
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
That's no good either. Requiring that in school would infringe on the rights
of the students who advocate the overthrow of the government.
Jefferson knew whereof he spoke. ;-)
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Iowa 2 (December 28)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 31 at San Antonio, 7:05
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
29 Dec 2005 10:10:55 AM |
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Mike Lepore wrote:
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
That's no good either. Requiring that in school would infringe on the rights
of the students who advocate the overthrow of the government.
I don't believe that any schools *REQUIRE* the students to recite the
pledge, it's more of a peer pressure thing.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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28 Dec 2005 01:27:07 AM |
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The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids reciting
the pledge as it was originally introduced.
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| User: "Red Rider" |
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28 Dec 2005 07:22:48 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:f7rsf.39459$7h7.17364@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids
reciting the pledge as it was originally introduced.
The Clinton haters must really love the womanizing fogie, Bing Crosby as a
Priest.
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| User: "Malibu Skipper" |
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28 Dec 2005 01:45:55 AM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids reciting
the pledge as it was originally introduced.
Why, oh why, did Bing Crosby hate America so much?
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| User: "Virgil" |
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28 Dec 2005 02:19:41 AM |
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In article <Torsf.4242$pk4.229@tornado.southeast.rr.com>,
Malibu Skipper <mad@my.mama> wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids
reciting
the pledge as it was originally introduced.
Why, oh why, did Bing Crosby hate America so much?
That's the way the law said it ought to be back then, ignoramus. The
improper additions did not come until later.
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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28 Dec 2005 10:56:49 AM |
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Malibu Skipper wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of
Sait Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school
kids reciting the pledge as it was originally introduced.
Why, oh why, did Bing Crosby hate America so much?
Der Binger was a Great American, go wash your mouth out for implying
differently :)
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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28 Dec 2005 10:55:48 AM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids reciting
the pledge as it was originally introduced.
That was in 1945 and I'm pretty sure Congress didn't screw up that
beautiful verse until the 50s.
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| User: "osprey" |
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28 Dec 2005 02:07:55 AM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids reciting
the pledge as it was originally introduced.
My personal opinion, I don't care either way how the pledge is said. I
don't support forcing people to say the pledge; however, it wouldn't
bother me if "Under God" is included or not. I am going to say the
pledge regardless.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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28 Dec 2005 09:26:23 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1135757275.825361.279260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids
reciting
the pledge as it was originally introduced.
My personal opinion, I don't care either way how the pledge is said. I
don't support forcing people to say the pledge; however, it wouldn't
bother me if "Under God" is included or not. I am going to say the
pledge regardless.
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a lie.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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28 Dec 2005 10:36:53 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1135757275.825361.279260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids
reciting the pledge as it was originally introduced.
My personal opinion, I don't care either way how the pledge is said. I
don't support forcing people to say the pledge; however, it wouldn't
bother me if "Under God" is included or not. I am going to say the
pledge regardless.
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a lie.
These days, you're right...just not for the reasons you want everyone else to
believe.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 7, San Antonio 1 (December 26)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, December 28 vs. Iowa, 7:05
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| User: "Johnny" |
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28 Dec 2005 04:51:31 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7j9p6uvu.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1135757275.825361.279260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I
pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of
Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids
reciting the pledge as it was originally introduced.
My personal opinion, I don't care either way how the pledge is said. I
don't support forcing people to say the pledge; however, it wouldn't
bother me if "Under God" is included or not. I am going to say the
pledge regardless.
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a lie.
These days, you're right...just not for the reasons you want everyone else
to
believe.
Well, how, if I am right are all of my reasons not on target?
I can accept the statement that says that some of my suppostions are not 100
percent accurate, yet to say that all of it is totally amiss doesn't seem
reasonable enough.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 7, San Antonio 1 (December 26)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, December 28 vs. Iowa, 7:05
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
28 Dec 2005 10:44:16 AM |
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In article <c6ysf.56097$aS5.20278@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a lie.
that it is, and much more so since bush took office. sadly, crazies like
you encourage that sick type of government.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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28 Dec 2005 04:52:49 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jgkeegan-5A2B24.11441628122005@individual.net...
In article <c6ysf.56097$aS5.20278@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a lie.
that it is, and much more so since bush took office. sadly, crazies like
you encourage that sick type of government.
I do not encourage injustices to be performed by government or individuals,
but I do know that sometimes if someone commits what is defined as a crime
that they had sufficient reason to do so, at least to them.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
29 Dec 2005 09:25:26 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a lie.
that it is, and much more so since bush took office. sadly, crazies like
you encourage that sick type of government.
I do not encourage injustices to be performed by government or individuals,
You DEMAND that injustices to be performed by government or
individuals.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
30 Dec 2005 09:31:08 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43b4a8a6$0$58100$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a
lie.
that it is, and much more so since bush took office. sadly, crazies like
you encourage that sick type of government.
I do not encourage injustices to be performed by government or
individuals,
You DEMAND that injustices to be performed by government or
individuals.
Got any specific examples?
I see gays and pro-choicers demanding such.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
30 Dec 2005 09:36:19 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43b4a8a6$0$58100$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a
lie.
that it is, and much more so since bush took office. sadly, crazies like
you encourage that sick type of government.
I do not encourage injustices to be performed by government or
individuals,
You DEMAND that injustices to be performed by government or
individuals.
Got any specific examples?
I see gays and pro-choicers demanding such.
That's because you're delusional, and see only what you want to see.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Iowa 2 (December 28)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 31 at San Antonio, 7:05
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
30 Dec 2005 12:43:14 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a
lie.
that it is, and much more so since bush took office. sadly, crazies like
you encourage that sick type of government.
I do not encourage injustices to be performed by government or
individuals,
You DEMAND that injustices to be performed by government or
individuals.
Got any specific examples?
Yes.
I see gays and pro-choicers demanding such.
I see you demanding that children be forced to accept other people's
religion.
I see you demaanding that women be enslaved o the needs of fetuses.
I see your desire that gays be dead.
And to justify your insanity you lie about others.
Hate has driven you insane.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
30 Dec 2005 05:50:26 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a
lie.
that it is, and much more so since bush took office. sadly, crazies like
you encourage that sick type of government.
I do not encourage injustices to be performed by government or
individuals,
You DEMAND that injustices to be performed by government or
individuals.
Got any specific examples?
Yes.
I see gays and pro-choicers demanding such.
I see you demanding that children be forced to accept other people's
religion.
I see you demaanding that women be enslaved o the needs of fetuses.
I see your desire that gays be dead.
And to justify your insanity you lie about others.
Hate has driven you insane.
Hardly a drive, more like a short putt :)
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| User: "Gaia" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
30 Dec 2005 12:55:04 PM |
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You're crazy, man.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
28 Dec 2005 01:55:09 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1135757275.825361.279260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids
reciting
the pledge as it was originally introduced.
My personal opinion, I don't care either way how the pledge is said. I
don't support forcing people to say the pledge; however, it wouldn't
bother me if "Under God" is included or not. I am going to say the
pledge regardless.
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a lie.
I can certainly understand that, it does seem that way at
times...although I will still always say and believe that we have the
best judicial system in the world. It isn't perfect, and it isn't
always right...but it's still far better than any other judicial system
in the world that I know of.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
28 Dec 2005 04:56:10 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1135799709.387983.151150@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1135757275.825361.279260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I
pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of
Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids
reciting
the pledge as it was originally introduced.
My personal opinion, I don't care either way how the pledge is said. I
don't support forcing people to say the pledge; however, it wouldn't
bother me if "Under God" is included or not. I am going to say the
pledge regardless.
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a lie.
I can certainly understand that, it does seem that way at
times...although I will still always say and believe that we have the
best judicial system in the world.
I'd rather not say it is a lie, but when it doesn't ring true enough I tend
not to view it as the truth.
It isn't perfect, and it isn't
always right...but it's still far better than any other judicial system
in the world that I know of.
I really don't think that is the case, but you are entitled to your opinion.
Corporate cash cows have corrupted the practice of justice for the
individual, imo.
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| User: "George" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
28 Dec 2005 03:01:10 PM |
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On 2005-12-28 11:55:09 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> said:
Johnny wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1135757275.825361.279260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids
reciting
the pledge as it was originally introduced.
My personal opinion, I don't care either way how the pledge is said. I
don't support forcing people to say the pledge; however, it wouldn't
bother me if "Under God" is included or not. I am going to say the
pledge regardless.
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a lie.
I can certainly understand that, it does seem that way at
times...although I will still always say and believe that we have the
best judicial system in the world. It isn't perfect, and it isn't
always right...but it's still far better than any other judicial system
in the world that I know of.
Name another that you know anything about.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: ACLU suit challenges classroom Pledge of Allegiance law |
28 Dec 2005 03:09:54 PM |
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George wrote:
On 2005-12-28 11:55:09 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> said:
Johnny wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1135757275.825361.279260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Mike Painter wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Is there any cause whatsoever, that would defined by any decent
person as anti-American, that the ACLU doesn't promote and defend?
I'd rather see them restore the original Pledge to the Flag: I pledge
allegiance to my flag, and to the republic for which it stands - one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Right after the last go around I saw part of an old movie "Bells of Sait
Mary's" with a Catholic priest (Bing Crosby), nuns and school kids
reciting
the pledge as it was originally introduced.
My personal opinion, I don't care either way how the pledge is said. I
don't support forcing people to say the pledge; however, it wouldn't
bother me if "Under God" is included or not. I am going to say the
pledge regardless.
I do not say it myself because the phrase "and justice for all" is a lie.
I can certainly understand that, it does seem that way at
times...although I will still always say and believe that we have the
best judicial system in the world. It isn't perfect, and it isn't
always right...but it's still far better than any other judicial system
in the world that I know of.
Name another that you know anything about.
Name anything you know anything about.
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