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User: "james g. keegan jr."
Date: 16 Nov 2005 05:17:15 PM
Object: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights
Alito abortion remarks concern some
By Joan Biskupic and Andrea Stone, USA TODAYTue Nov 15, 1:47 PM ET
In a newly released 1985 job application, Supreme Court nominee Samuel
Alito says the Constitution does not protect abortion rights, and he
expresses a conservative fervor on many social issues.
The document, released Monday by the National Archives, provoked concerns
from Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, an abortion
rights supporter, and others. Specter said Alito should be closely
questioned about his remarks during confirmation hearings set to begin
Jan. 9. (Related item: Read the document)
Alito, a judge for 15 years, made the remarks in an application for a
promotion in the Reagan administration.
Referring to his work in the U.S. solicitor general's office, he wrote
that he was pleased "to help advance legal positions in which I
personally believe very strongly."
Alito, then 35, said he was especially "proud of my contributions in
recent cases in which the government has argued in the Supreme Court that
racial and ethnic quotas should not be allowed and that the Constitution
does not protect a right to an abortion."
Senators questioned whether Alito's successful application to be a deputy
assistant attorney general - signed twenty years ago on Nov. 15 - could
reflect an enduring opposition to abortion rights. Alito has been named
to succeed the retiring Sandra Day O'Connor, a key vote against
regulations that might infringe on a woman's right to end a pregnancy.
(Related audio: Analysis from USA TODAY's Joan Biskupic)
Alito's abortion record has already come under scrutiny because in 1991
he wrote an opinion that favored upholding a Pennsylvania law that
required a woman to notify her husband of her intention to seek an
abortion. The Supreme Court struck down the law in 1992.
Sen. Susan Collins (news, bio, voting record), R-Maine, said Alito
assured her in a meeting last week that he believed in a right to
privacy, the basis for the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion
nationwide, and had respect for precedent.
After reviewing the document, Collins said, "I am unclear whether Judge
Alito's personal views may have evolved over time, or whether despite his
personal views, he has a commitment to setting these opinions aside when
deciding cases."
Steve Schmidt, a White House spokesman, said Alito should be evaluated on
his judicial record and that his personal views "are beside the point."
"Anybody who would read this letter from 20 years ago as an indication
that he would overturn Roe v. Wade is jumping to conclusions," Schmidt
said.
Alito's 1985 job application was first reported on Monday by The
Washington Times.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/alitoabortionremarksconcernsome
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User: "Spartakus"

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 17 Nov 2005 08:44:49 AM
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote...

Alito abortion remarks concern some

By Joan Biskupic and Andrea Stone, USA TODAYTue Nov 15, 1:47 PM ET

In a newly released 1985 job application, Supreme Court nominee Samuel
Alito says the Constitution does not protect abortion rights, and he
expresses a conservative fervor on many social issues.

Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he thought his prospective
employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job application. Iow, he is
now an admitted liar.
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 17 Nov 2005 06:34:50 PM
"Spartakus" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in
news:dli4u6$vud$0@pita.alt.net:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote...

Alito abortion remarks concern some

By Joan Biskupic and Andrea Stone, USA TODAYTue Nov 15, 1:47 PM ET

In a newly released 1985 job application, Supreme Court nominee
Samuel Alito says the Constitution does not protect abortion rights,
and he expresses a conservative fervor on many social issues.


Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he thought his
prospective employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job
application. Iow, he is now an admitted liar.

of course he is!! are there any in the bush camp who are not?
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User: "Mimi Cohen"

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 17 Nov 2005 07:23:07 PM
james g. keegan jr. wrote:

"Spartakus" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in
news:dli4u6$vud$0@pita.alt.net:


"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote...


Alito abortion remarks concern some

By Joan Biskupic and Andrea Stone, USA TODAYTue Nov 15, 1:47 PM ET

In a newly released 1985 job application, Supreme Court nominee
Samuel Alito says the Constitution does not protect abortion rights,
and he expresses a conservative fervor on many social issues.


Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he thought his
prospective employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job
application. Iow, he is now an admitted liar.




of course he is!! are there any in the bush camp who are not?

Not a one :(
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User: ""

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 17 Nov 2005 06:51:43 PM
james g. keegan jr. wrote:

"Spartakus" <no.spam@this.address> wrote:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote...

Alito abortion remarks concern some

By Joan Biskupic and Andrea Stone, USA TODAYTue Nov 15, 1:47 PM ET

In a newly released 1985 job application, Supreme Court nominee
Samuel Alito says the Constitution does not protect abortion rights,
and he expresses a conservative fervor on many social issues.

Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he thought his
prospective employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job
application. Iow, he is now an admitted liar.

of course he is!! are there any in the bush camp who are not?

Harriet Miers, maybe? :-)
But anyway, doesn't this remind you of Bernard Nathanson, who claims he
was making stuff up as a spokesperson for NARAL?
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User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 17 Nov 2005 08:22:56 PM
"spartakus@my-deja.com" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in
news:1132275103.872450.299420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

james g. keegan jr. wrote:

"Spartakus" <no.spam@this.address> wrote:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote...


Alito abortion remarks concern some

By Joan Biskupic and Andrea Stone, USA TODAYTue Nov 15, 1:47 PM ET

In a newly released 1985 job application, Supreme Court nominee
Samuel Alito says the Constitution does not protect abortion rights,
and he expresses a conservative fervor on many social issues.


Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he thought his
prospective employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job
application. Iow, he is now an admitted liar.


of course he is!! are there any in the bush camp who are not?


Harriet Miers, maybe? :-)

naw, harriet's a sleazeball else she would have abandoned the bush
administration long ago.


But anyway, doesn't this remind you of Bernard Nathanson, who claims he
was making stuff up as a spokesperson for NARAL?

the most troubling aspect of it all is that there remains roughly 30% of
the nation who actually believes bush. man, what conditioning.
.
User: "Mimi Cohen"

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 17 Nov 2005 10:02:26 PM
james g. keegan jr. wrote:

"spartakus@my-deja.com" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in
news:1132275103.872450.299420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:


james g. keegan jr. wrote:

"Spartakus" <no.spam@this.address> wrote:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote...


Alito abortion remarks concern some

By Joan Biskupic and Andrea Stone, USA TODAYTue Nov 15, 1:47 PM ET

In a newly released 1985 job application, Supreme Court nominee
Samuel Alito says the Constitution does not protect abortion rights,
and he expresses a conservative fervor on many social issues.


Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he thought his
prospective employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job
application. Iow, he is now an admitted liar.


of course he is!! are there any in the bush camp who are not?


Harriet Miers, maybe? :-)




naw, harriet's a sleazeball else she would have abandoned the bush
administration long ago.


But anyway, doesn't this remind you of Bernard Nathanson, who claims he
was making stuff up as a spokesperson for NARAL?




the most troubling aspect of it all is that there remains roughly 30% of
the nation who actually believes bush. man, what conditioning.

Pavlov would be so proud :(
.




User: "Mimi Cohen"

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 17 Nov 2005 10:27:38 AM
Spartakus wrote:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote...


Alito abortion remarks concern some

By Joan Biskupic and Andrea Stone, USA TODAYTue Nov 15, 1:47 PM ET

In a newly released 1985 job application, Supreme Court nominee Samuel
Alito says the Constitution does not protect abortion rights, and he
expresses a conservative fervor on many social issues.



Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he thought his prospective
employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job application. Iow, he is
now an admitted liar.

Not surprising, a liar nominated him.
.
User: "Shawn Hirn"

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 17 Nov 2005 06:14:40 PM
In article <Yb2ff.456$Wu.184@fed1read05>,
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:

Spartakus wrote:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote...


Alito abortion remarks concern some

By Joan Biskupic and Andrea Stone, USA TODAYTue Nov 15, 1:47 PM ET

In a newly released 1985 job application, Supreme Court nominee Samuel
Alito says the Constitution does not protect abortion rights, and he
expresses a conservative fervor on many social issues.



Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he thought his prospective
employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job application. Iow, he is
now an admitted liar.


Not surprising, a liar nominated him.

True, but then if you can show me a person who has never lied, I will
show you a person who has never been born.
.
User: "Mimi Cohen"

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 17 Nov 2005 07:22:30 PM
Shawn Hirn wrote:

In article <Yb2ff.456$Wu.184@fed1read05>,
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:


Spartakus wrote:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote...



Alito abortion remarks concern some

By Joan Biskupic and Andrea Stone, USA TODAYTue Nov 15, 1:47 PM ET

In a newly released 1985 job application, Supreme Court nominee Samuel
Alito says the Constitution does not protect abortion rights, and he
expresses a conservative fervor on many social issues.



Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he thought his prospective
employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job application. Iow, he is
now an admitted liar.


Not surprising, a liar nominated him.



True, but then if you can show me a person who has never lied, I will
show you a person who has never been born.

So your reaction to someone pointing out that the current nominee *AND*
the pResident are liars is "everyone does it"? Doesn't cut it.USSC
Justices and the President should be held to a higher standard than your
implied everyone who was ever born. Baruch Hashem there aren't that many
losers like you on the planet. Sane people realize that "everyone is
doing it" is not a valid defense or argument. Maybe you can come back
and talk with us when you get sane.
.
User: "Shawn Hirn"

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 19 Nov 2005 07:26:40 PM
In article <n1aff.562$Wu.81@fed1read05>,
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:


So your reaction to someone pointing out that the current nominee *AND*
the pResident are liars is "everyone does it"? Doesn't cut it.USSC
Justices and the President should be held to a higher standard than your
implied everyone who was ever born. Baruch Hashem there aren't that many
losers like you on the planet. Sane people realize that "everyone is
doing it" is not a valid defense or argument. Maybe you can come back
and talk with us when you get sane.

If your goal here is to find a replacement for O'Connor who has never
lied, your goal is an impossibility. Show me someone who has never lied
and I will show you someone who has never been born. That's just the
reality of life, especially where lawyers and political power are
concerned. No one who has ever served on the SCOTUS or has been
nominated for a seat there can say they have never lied because judges
are no less human and frail than anyone else in this world.
Even liberal judges such as Ginsberg and Souter cannot honestly say they
never lied in the course of their respective careers. What's important
here is to recongnize that any candidate for United States Supreme Court
has lied and encourage the Senate to do a good job sifting through the
lies to get at the truth. This is as true now with the consideration of
Judge Alito as it is for any future nominee for the Supreme Court that a
Democratic president may nominate.
If you don't think Clinton has never nominated anyone who was 100%
truthful, you have got to be kidding yourself. I would love to see a
100% truthful candidate be picked to replace O'Connor, but such a person
does not exist. I am a supporter of reproductive rights, but I am also a
realist. So by your standards, no one will ever sit on the Supreme
Court, so we might as well not even have a Supreme Court.
.


User: "Bill Smith"

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 20 Nov 2005 11:39:39 PM
Shawn Hirn wrote:

In article <Yb2ff.456$Wu.184@fed1read05>,
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:

Spartakus wrote:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote...

Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he thought his prospective
employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job application. Iow, he is
now an admitted liar.


Not surprising, a liar nominated him.


True, but then if you can show me a person who has never lied, I will
show you a person who has never been born.

If the Alito nomination fails in the Senate, perhaps Bush will nominate
a "person who has never been born" in his stead. After all, who better
to protect the rights of the "unborn" then the "unborn" themselves.
Sorry for the above bit of sarcasm -- I couldn't resist.
- Bill
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User: "Cleopatra"

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 19 Nov 2005 07:42:30 PM
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Spartakus said: "Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he
thought his prospective
employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job application. Iow, he
is now an admitted liar.
"I did not have sex with..with that woman!" - Bubba
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User: "Mimi Cohen"

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 19 Nov 2005 10:44:13 PM
Cleopatra wrote:

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Spartakus said: "Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he
thought his prospective
employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job application. Iow, he
is now an admitted liar.

"I did not have sex with..with that woman!" - Bubba

What a typical 'i can't defend my guy so I'll point fingers at someone
else and hope no one notices it" gambit. Didn't your mother teach you
that "he did it first" isn't a valid defense? The fact that you have no
problem with Alito's lies is noted. Thank you for playing, we don't give
parting gifts to losers.
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User: ""

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 19 Nov 2005 09:16:09 PM
Cleopatra wrote:

Spartakus said: "Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he
thought his prospective employer wanted to hear on what amounts to
a job application. Iow, he is now an admitted liar.

"I did not have sex with..with that woman!" - Bubba

Trying to fluff up the sympathy vote for Hillary?
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User: "IAAH"

Title: Re: alito sez constitution does not protect abortion rights 19 Nov 2005 07:43:53 PM
On 19 Nov 2005 17:42:30 -0800, "Cleopatra"
<Let_Em_Eat_Indictments@hotmail.com> wrote:

X-No-archive: yes

Spartakus said: "Alito now admits that he was merely saying what he
thought his prospective
employer wanted to hear on what amounts to a job application. Iow, he
is now an admitted liar.

"I did not have sex with..with that woman!" - Bubba

And? Are you still obsessed with Clinton's sex life?
Let it go, Mariopatra. There's just no way you could make it with the
big dog. Accept it and move on.
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