Science > Abortion > Almost NO *Actual* Christians would want anything to do with THIS faction.
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Almost NO *Actual* Christians would want anything to do with THIS faction. |
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:30:31 +1100,
Andrew W. <ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
Proof Christianity is a mental illness.
Wrong. 83% of Americans profess Christianity. (Just to
consider the American aspect of this problem.)
*OF* that number, 94% are ACTUAL Christians: very normal,
sensible, fair-minded, and tolerant people who have NO desire
to support or promote hateful and loathsome agendas against
human rights and the personal liberties of tens of millions of people.
The *other* 6% of those who *profess* Christianity are the
USA's hateful and bigoted PSEUDO-Christians. They are well
described by the term, "Religious" Radical Right (with "religious"
in quotes to denote the fact that they really are otherwise, for
the most part... people whose leaders have craftily and purposely
created, generated, and perpetuated a misperception in society
that this dysfunctional faction of sociopaths somehow *represents*
Christians. They cloak themselves in that which is becoming the
rapidly-shrinking (thanks to them) mantle of respectability that
Christianity affords them.
The RRR Cult is a **trans-denominational** cult -- unlike ANY
other cult that has ever existed! -- which has infiltrated and
infested denominations, congregations, and one of our two
primary political parties (Republican) from WITHIN... and then
*left* their infiltrators in place, to poison those organizations
*from within*!
Those sociopaths give Christianity a bad name, and should
*never* be confused with actual Christians.
Because the vast majority of those who meet the criteria for
being regarded as the cult's lemmings are NOT Christians at all,
and the relatively few actual Christians who *have* fallen for
the cult leaders' party line tend almost exclusively to be folks
who were unfortunate enough to have been born with very
low IQs, and thus were susceptible (gullible) to accepting the
lies of the cult's leadership.
The RRR Cult has no formal name, but had its origins in a
group that did, and now is comprised of people who follow and
rigidly adhere to the tenets of that original group: The so-called
"Moral Majority," instigated in the mid-1970s by a person who
still is one of the oligarchical leaders of the RRR: Jerry Falwell.
The "Moral Majority" never was moral... or a majority... or
Christian.
One example: The PRIMARY criterion for inclusion on its OWN
part, in the RRR, is one's stance regarding abortion. To BE an
RRR Cultist, and thus have acceptance by the group -- and indeed,
even to be *regarded* as a Christian by that faction... a person
needs to be SO hateful, SO sociopathic, and SO UN-Christian as
to support their key agenda: to do all in their power to ultimately
FORCE all women to gestate unwanted pregnancies to term,
against their will. That's a 9-month-long form of RAPE.
And is as UN-Christian as it GETS.
So -- READERS -- as you read the remainder of the other-
wise excellent previous post, please remember that the people
described therein aren't even **remotely** Christians. They
are the leaders and lemmings of the RRR Cult.
It is very important that the two groups NEVER be confused
with each other. There's an infinitely-wide abyss separating
them.
Adherence to the RRR Cult's motives and agendas may very
WELL be a manifestation of mental illness for many of those
pathetic bigots. In line with what you went on to say, below ---
The following websites outline this very well.
http://www.uchc.edu/ocomm/features/stories/stories04/feature_religiosity.html
http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/y2k/illness.htm
http://www.truthbeknown.com/mental.htm
Below is an extract from the following website about September 11.
This is a serious website run by serious preachers. They call them-
selves warriors of God.
http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/faq.html
Fred Phelps and his son Tim who are some of the individuals behind
the site are Calvinist type predestinationists. They claim that God
created certain people (most) for the express purpose of burning in hell.
FAQ no.3: Why do you say "Thank God For September 11?"
For several reasons. First, God ordained and decreed these acts. He
determined in eternity to hurl those airplanes like fiery darts out of the
sky. He used the evil followers of Osama bin Laden to punish even more
evil people, just as He used the evil, blood-thirsty Babylonian King
Nebuchadnezzar, His servant, to punish wicked Judah (Jeremiah 25:9).
As the sovereign Creator, His acts by definition are perfect and all humans
are duty bound to be grateful for all that He does. "Shall there be evil in a
city, and the Lord hath not done it?" Amos 3:6. You are supremely arrogant
and evil if you don't believe that your Creator was responsible for
September 11. Second, this nation is awash in arrogant disobedience to God.
By all that is just, God is fully entitled to utterly destroy the nation
immediately. The fact that instead He gave us a fair warning on September 11
is something that those who fear and obey God as all mankind is bound to do
are thankful for this warning. Thank God that we were not all killed on
September 11, as we deserve nothing less. Of course, the perverse people of
this evil nation are not getting the hint, and instead of repenting in
sackcloth and ashes, they continue to spit in God's face. Third, the saints
of God watch for the return of Christ. The worse this world becomes in its
institutionalized iniquity, the greater the hope that the return of Christ
is nigh. September 11 was comforting evidence to the saints of God that
every word of the Scripture is true and that our hope is a good one. "For
the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and
unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that
which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto
them." Romans 1:18-19. "And I gave her space to repent of her fornication;
and she repented not." Revelation 2:21. Furthermore, it validates what
Westboro Baptist Church has been preaching since 1991: This nation (and
world) has crossed the line. It's too late to repent. God will send
adumbrations of the Great Assize (September 11 was child's play compared to
what is coming), and the vile people of this world will ignore the warnings.
That's what the Bible says will happen. That's what WBC has preached will
happen. And that's what is happening.
http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/faq.html
Then there are the fruitloops in these newsgroups like "His Elect" who's
"EVERY" *SENTENCE* "READS" *LIKE* "THIS".
And there are many others, the latest of which is "God's Chosen Prophet",
who has totally lost it.
There are Christians who are so sick they even burn, kill or mutilate their
children to save them from Satan, as portrayed in the first link at the top.
Yep, we are in a world of total wackos.
And PLEASE remember that those wackoes are NOT Christians, in
almost all cases. They are precisely what I discussed above, instead.
Be FAIR to *actual* Christians. Don't paint them with the undeser-
ved brush of hate and bigotry that the RRR Cult has earned for itself.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Almost NO *Actual* Christians would want anything to do with THIS faction. |
12 Feb 2006 11:34:10 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:39:07 -0600,
"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@yahoo.com> ...
...either LIED, or demonstrated his profound ignorance,
in making this (*typical* for bigoted losers) comment:
As always, Craig has left us wondering what cloud he
pulled all his statistics from as well as how they were reached.
The same invalidity that we have grown used to with Craig.
The statistics I cited are VERY well-founded, as everyone
can see in THIS re-post that I put up to these groups, just
before I made this response:
The 145,000,000 Americans who make
DOG MEAT of the Homophobes' Agenda!
Yes I see it now. The invisible link to the reputable website proving
everything you say. You are truly a God Craig and I am humbled in your
presence.
No seriously...You said "83% of Americans profess Christianity, [and
that] *OF* that number, 94% are ACTUAL Christians". You've posted
no links to any reputable websites backing up your claims but instead
decided to repost one of your many ramblings regarding gays and
same sex [marriage]. I don't believe I asked anything about [gay rights],
so please don't tell me about them.
WHINING about same-sex marriage is one of the moronic things that
the RRR Cultists are fanatically DEDICATED to doing. It's right up there
with opposition to abortion as being a litmus test that they apply to any
and all people who present themselves as Christians. In that process,
they inanely and downright STUPIDLY conclude that the ACTUAL Christians
are NOT Christians. And that one must be steeped in their (mindless and
phony hate-)dogma in order to BE one of THEM... the only people who, in
THEIR eyes, are Christians.
It's no wonder the RRR Cult's oligarchical leaders need to target the
profoundly-ignorant (as in, lowest IQ echelons) to follow their lead. No
one having much of a working brain could EVER be stupid and hateful
enough to want anything to do with their loathsome and pointless agen-
das against human/civil rights and personal liberties which are nothing
other than highly beneficial to tens of millions of people.
The actual size and potency of the RRR Cult -- America's own home-
grown and equally-vicious-in-many-ways version of the Taliban -- was
WELL revealed by the Wisconsin Primary of 2004.
And just so everyone can see that for themselves without having to
hunt for it, I'm providing all of the post, below, that was referred to,
above. ---
(Oh... and BTW, it *does* contain a very relevant, and still-active
link.)
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The 145,000,000 Americans who make
DOG MEAT of the Homophobes' Agenda!
TO: All who are sufficiently socially-retarded, hateful,
and bone-ignorant enough to seek to DENY across-
the-board **equal** rights to ANY person based on
a matter so utterly TRIVIAL as how they choose to
have sex in *private* -- society is RAPIDLY growing
up, and in that maturation process, it is OUTGROWING
and REJECTING such mindless and loathsome agendas
as yours. As the article below PROVES, beyond a
shadow of a doubt.
Homophobia is for LOSERS.
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On Jan. 28, 2004,
James Riske <james_riske@mail15_dot_com> wrote:
Do prove that "straight allies almost certainly are in greater
numbers than the gays".
(To which I responded as follows) ---
ROTFL!!!!! That's one of the **easiest** things in the world to
do!
The *highest* percentage of gays that anyone claims, in the
population, is 10%. So just for fun (and to YOUR advantage, in this
case), let's assume that figure is true. HOWEVER... recent polls
have shown that the percentage of people in America who would
be supportive of same-sex civil unions (but not "marriage,'
semantically-speaking... and really, that's the ONLY difference) is
now very close to 50%. Any straight person who would not object
to same-sex civil unions are ALLIES of the gays. And if we used
only 40% (and there are more allies than that, as I just said), then
we'd have the following:
Gays 10% -- 29,000,000 Americans
Straight Allies 30% -- 87,000,000 Americans
___ __________________
TOTAL Gays & Allies 40% -- 116,000,000 Americans
Ratio: 3-1. Three times more straight allies than gays.
AT LEAST!
Using more realistic numbers; 5% of population is gay, and 45%
of population favors the granting of the right of gays to have
same-sex civil unions, we have the following figures, which probably
approximate today's reality very closely:
Gays 5% -- 14,500,000 Americans
Straight Allies 45% -- 130,500,000 Americans
___ __________________
TOTAL Gays & Allies 50% -- 145,000,000 Americans
Ratio: 9-1. NINE times more straight allies than gays.
Using either set of figures, bigots who think that straight
allies of the GLTB Community are few in number, LOSE, big-time.
Three-to-one is the BEST they can do with such a claim, but that's
unrealistically low. Straight ALLIES of the gays vastly **outnumber**
the gays, themselves. By approximately NINE to one.
From:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Relationships/same_sex_marriage_poll_040121.html
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Views of Same-Sex Marriage and Civil Unions:
"Marriage" -- Make legal: 41% Keep Illegal: 55%
"Civil Unions" -- Make legal: 46% Keep Illegal: 51%
________________________________________________
This reliable ABC News Poll PROVES the idiocy of homophobic
bigots when they claim that gays have relatively few straight allies.
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AND -- per CNN's exit polls at the Wisconsin Primary, fully
*** 61% *** of the people in that HEARTLAND (not "liberal" coastal)
state who took the time and effort to actually get out and VOTE --
said that they SUPPORT same sex civil unions/marriage. And that
was an **open** primary, in which people from ALL parties, including
Republicans, were allowed to vote. The Wisconsin Primary was held
more than a week AFTER the same-sex marriages had started in San
Francisco, so people were WELL aware of what they were supporting.
Your loathsomely-hateful and infinitely-ignorant homophobic
agenda is ACCELERATING into the Drain of Extinction, where it
soon will very properly join the moldering bones of the agenda of
the segregationists, and be forgotten. ANOTHER form of bigotry
**rejected** forever -- and **good riddance** to it!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Almost NO *Actual* Christians would want anything to do with THIS faction. |
11 Feb 2006 11:25:13 PM |
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Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:30:31 +1100,
Andrew W. <ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
Proof Christianity is a mental illness.
Wrong. 83% of Americans profess Christianity. (Just to
consider the American aspect of this problem.)
*OF* that number, 94% are ACTUAL Christians: very normal,
sensible, fair-minded, and tolerant people who have NO desire
to support or promote hateful and loathsome agendas against
human rights and the personal liberties of tens of millions of people.
The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has
been found difficult and left untried.
G.K. Chesterton
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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