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"osprey" |
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20 Mar 2005 02:45:48 AM |
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Another example: Gun control doesn't always work |
For all those who use England as their prime example of gun control,
they need to re-think their position.
Gun crime soars by 35%
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2640817.stm
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| User: "candymanal" |
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| Title: Re: Another example: Gun control doesn't always work |
20 Mar 2005 02:58:36 AM |
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As it has been said before, "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will
have guns"
Tired of gun crimes?
Enforce the laws we have on the books already!
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Another example: Gun control doesn't always work |
20 Mar 2005 03:10:08 AM |
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candymanal wrote:
As it has been said before, "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws
will
have guns"
Tired of gun crimes?
Enforce the laws we have on the books already!
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Being in law enforcement myself, the largest law enforcement agency in
my state - Corrections...I can testify that gun control does not deter
nor stop violent crime. Even inmates and ex-inmates will tell you that
the guns they purchased were done by illegal means.
You are absolutely right, enforce the laws we have on the books now.
We have hundreds of laws on the books now.
If we are going to do anything, we need to continue educating the
people who do own firearms or are thinking about it. They should be
required to take a ownership course, in which they learn how to store
their firearm safely.
I own several myself, most for hunting. Not one of them is loaded and
all of them are stored, locked, and out of site. Another tip: Don't
lock weapon and ammunition in the same place.
I am also trained and take safety courses, I requalify every year...due
to job requirements. I take gun ownership VERY seriously.
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| User: "Ron" |
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| Title: Re: Another example: Gun control doesn't always work |
20 Mar 2005 08:16:18 AM |
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In article <1111308348.843160.88300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
For all those who use England as their prime example of gun control,
they need to re-think their position.
Gun crime soars by 35%
Gun control is a band-aid to an underlying issue. Someone who is willing
to use a gun in the commission of a crime is demonstrating that they
care little what the law has to say.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Another example: Guns don't always work |
20 Mar 2005 12:52:54 PM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
For all those who use England as their prime example of gun control,
they need to re-think their position.
Just how stupid are you, *****?
Gun crime soars by 35%
Almost 10,000 incidents.
Compare that with the 400,000+ incidents in the US.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "candymanal" |
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| Title: Re: Another example: Guns don't always work |
22 Mar 2005 07:21:42 AM |
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There is something else that needs to be addressed here also. When you
look purely at raw statistics you are not looking at the breakdown. The
statistics are skewed. Did you know that if a police officer returns
fire on a felon and kills him, the felon is a gun-death statistic. If a
hunter is walking through the woods, trips and falls on his gun and
accidentally kills himself, he is a statistic of gun death. The next
time someone tells you about gun death statistics, ask them or
yourself, where did these statistics come from are they the breakdown
or the raw statistics. You may be surprised at the answer. Many
anti-gun groups use raw statistics to proove their point. Gun owners
have already lost part of their rights afforded by the US Constitution.
ie "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be
infringed." Infringed means hinder or opposed. In reality background
checks and registration are infringements.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Another example: Guns don't always work |
24 Mar 2005 11:33:58 PM |
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candymanal <candymanal@yahoo.com> wrote:
There is something else that needs to be addressed here also. When you
look purely at raw statistics you are not looking at the breakdown. The
statistics are skewed. Did you know that if a police officer returns
fire on a felon and kills him, the felon is a gun-death statistic. If a
hunter is walking through the woods, trips and falls on his gun and
accidentally kills himself, he is a statistic of gun death.
I'm sure that such cases really do make up a large portion of the
400,000 annual gun incidents in the US.
And yes, that is sarcasm.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "candymanal" |
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| Title: Re: Another example: Guns don't always work |
25 Mar 2005 07:56:59 AM |
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I never said "large portion," but there is definitely a percenage. The
US constitution gives the fedal government limited powers. The main one
being the protection of its citizens. If they are too busy to perform
that duty, I also have the right to defend myself and my family. There
was also a time in not too distant history where guns were confiscated.
1934 to 1939 it happened in Germany. That turned out well, didn't it?
Now THAT'S sarcasm!
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