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Arguements in favor of cheap women
An anonymous reader asks:
"Why is it unrealistic, if you in fact have the technological means to
avoid reproduction? I suppose realistically there is always a risk,
but it is similarly true that there is a risk involved in taking a
trip on a plane for a vacation..."
Allow me to answer. This is a perfectly good question, but it rests on
an assumption I would like you to question: the assumption that sex
can be cheapened without cheapening the sex-partner. It cannot be
done. To will the end wills the means; likewise, to disvalue the end
disvalues the means.
Even in the analogy you use, there is a hint of what I am saying. If
sex were merely nothing more than something a man did for his own
pleasure, like climbing aboard a plane to take a vacation, obviously
my objection toward casual sex would be meaningless: for casual
pleasures ought to be treated casually.
Indeed, we consider a man a fanatic, an oddity, a geek or a glutton,
if he pays more attention to a simple, casual pleasure (like a science
fiction paperback)than he should. A fan who takes a vow only to eat
one fruit or only to read one author, forsaking all others, would be
an odd duck indeed. Endowing an author with all your worldly good, and
moving into his house would be even more extraordinary--I assure you
that most authors do not want fans with THAT much affection in the
hearts of their fans.
But what bride does not insist on at least that much affection in the
heart of her bridegroom, or far more that that? Answer: a bride whose
price is rather low, who does not take her self, her love, her life,
to be worth much consideration; namely, a bride who does not insist on
a wedding ring before she bestows the pleasures of the wedding night
on her casual beau.
On the other hand, we would think it very odd, even grotesque, for a
girl to copulate with a boy before she is even sure he whether he has
made up his mind to like her or not. Schoolgirls who bestow sexual
favors on boys in order to win mere affection and mere friendship have
a very backward notion of what sex is for and what its effects are.
And yet such girls are doing nothing other than acting on the advice
of the current generation (whom we should call the generation of
vipers). The vipers say that sex is a casual thing, and that sex has
no real consequences. If sex is a casual thing, there is nothing wrong
with servicing a nice older man in order to get a free movie, a ride
in his car, or a new dress. It becomes a business matter. You become a
harlot, or, as they say in the FIREFLY universe, a companion. All you
give up is love and self-worth.
But sex and romance, love and marriage are nothing like a casual
vacation. I am not saying that it will always be unrealistic to rely
on birth control. I am saying it is unrealistic to assume, that merely
because the cause-effect link between sex and reproduction is weaker
in a society that has reliable birth control, that ergo there is no
categorical link between sex and reproduction. The two are still
related as means and ends, even if the cause and effect link will one
day be utterly and reliably cut. Our biology and psychology are still
established in such a way to recognize that link. The circumstances
are reality, what I called the logic of the human heart, the laws of
supply and demand, still obtain.
A girl for whom sex is cheap, a value of low priority, cheapens
herself, places her self-value at a low value. Her feelings toward the
opposite sex must be forced down to a low value: she feels contempt
for men, and sex is nothing more than mere entertainment. All the
arguments in favor of cheap sex assume human life, human romance,
motherhood, virginity, and girls themselves are of low value. It
cannot logically be otherwise. That is the operation of the law of
supply and demand. One man, or one society, cannot at the same time
and in the same sense cherish romantic superlative emotion about
something which is held to be of no particular interest or
importance.
I am not trying to deduce an 'ought' from an 'is'. I am not trying to
argue that a duty can be deduced from a fact. I am arguing that the
'ought' is innate in the situation. The duty exist as a matter of
plain fact, and it is bad logic to pretend it does not.
The pleasure one gets by stimulating the sex organs does not exist in
a vacuum; it exists in a context. The context is that sexual organs
are sexual organs, reproductive organs. Using them for selfish
pleasure has a psychological cost, demeaning their utility as
reproductive organs.
Darwinian evolution might not care, as you say, if the race lives or
dies, but I assume anyone reading my words now is alive, and, if only
tacitly, he has made a moral valuation of the preference of life over
death. Humans require civilizations to live in large numbers, and laws
and customs to live life at all. If one were arguing with a non-living
object, like a rock, perhaps one would have to prove the advantage of
life, health, sanity, and happiness over the alternatives, but no one
in my audience need ponder those arguments, as they are all living
beings. If someone wants to argue the advantages of single-parent
households, or of abandoning children to strangers, one no longer is a
member of the culture that values life and happiness.
"Common experience, if nothing else, shows that unwed women are as
jealous of their rivals as wives for their husband's mistresses..."
Lots of animals have "casual sex"--look at bonobos, for example--so
it's clearly not true that "Darwinian logic" commands that animals be
jealous...
I am sorry I was not clear here. Here I am speaking of the common
experience of real people, not the hypothetical experience of the
moral decisions that would be made by dwarf chimpanzees if they were
intelligent enough to identify their own offspring.
No one can seriously argue that human females ought not to be jealous
when their boyfriend cheat merely because dwarf chimpanzees are not
jealous. Girls who act this way get treated with profound disrespect.
The dwarf chimpanzee strategy of raising children communally is a
somewhat, ah, Spartan approach to the matter. Like plans to breed
humans like horses, communal child-rearing involves the annihilation
of human rights and human dignity.
Black Widow spiders also kill their mates. As far as Darwinian logic
is concerned, this would not be the best strategy for human beings,
because human males, although their intelligence clearly drops during
their mating season, are alert enough to take prudent steps to guard
their own self interest. Marriage is a prudent step intended (and
often successful) in guarding the self-interest and the general
interest of individual men and of the human race.
The culture of Sterility, according to Darwin, will be outnumbered,
everything else being equal, by the culture of Fertility. Good or
bad, that is simply the fact.
And the laws of economics and the logic of the human heart still
apply. You cannot adore something casually; you cannot dismiss the
core value of your life without dismissing the related values.
All the arguments in favor of cheap sex are arguments in favor of
cheapening women. What amazes me is that the women let this happen to
them. They were promised cheap sex would give them equality with men;
all it has done is reduce them to exploited Barbie dolls in the
estimation of the society. I can see why the men would be in favor of
this particular brand of lawlessness, for the same reason I can see
why Attila the Hun would be in favor of Trial by Combat. I am just not
sure why Juliet or Penelope or even Princess Buttercup would be in
favor of it.
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19 Jul 2007 07:45:48 AM |
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:27:16 -0700 there was an Ancient Sound of
Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
Arguements in favor of cheap women
They go well with cheap booze.
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19 Jul 2007 11:03:53 AM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:27:16 -0700 there was an Ancient Sound of
Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
Arguements in favor of cheap women
They go well with cheap booze.
I never met one yet.... lots of expensive women everywhere.... but cheap
ones..... sheeeesh.... if only......
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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19 Jul 2007 07:50:30 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:03:53 +0100 there was an Ancient "brique"
<briquenoir@freeuk.c0m> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:27:16 -0700 there was an Ancient Sound of
Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
Arguements in favor of cheap women
They go well with cheap booze.
I never met one yet.... lots of expensive women everywhere.... but cheap
ones..... sheeeesh.... if only......
Remember, I was an enlisted man in the Army. Cheap women and cheap
booze sprouted from the ground where ever we went.
Seriously. I half expected Saudi Arabia to legalize liquor and
prostitution while we were there.
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Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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20 Jul 2007 01:40:28 AM |
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On Jul 20, 10:50 am, Douglas Berry <penguin_...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:03:53 +0100 there was an Ancient "brique"
<briquen...@freeuk.c0m> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:27:16 -0700 there was an Ancient Sound of
Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
Arguements in favor of cheap women
They go well with cheap booze.
I never met one yet.... lots of expensive women everywhere.... but cheap
ones..... sheeeesh.... if only......
Remember, I was an enlisted man in the Army. Cheap women and cheap
booze sprouted from the ground where ever we went.
Seriously. I half expected Saudi Arabia to legalize liquor and
prostitution while we were there.
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Well my condolences that it didn't happen.
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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18 Jul 2007 05:46:38 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:27:16 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:
Even in the analogy you use, there is a hint of what I am saying. If
sex were merely nothing more than something a man did for his own
pleasure, like climbing aboard a plane to take a vacation, obviously
my objection toward casual sex would be meaningless: for casual
pleasures ought to be treated casually.
You seem oblivious to the fact that women can enjoy a good casual *****
every bit as much as a man. But then, you've obviously never had sex,
so how would you know that?
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Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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20 Jul 2007 12:42:48 AM |
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raven1 wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:27:16 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:
Even in the analogy you use, there is a hint of what I am saying. If
sex were merely nothing more than something a man did for his own
pleasure, like climbing aboard a plane to take a vacation, obviously
my objection toward casual sex would be meaningless: for casual
pleasures ought to be treated casually.
You seem oblivious to the fact that women can enjoy a good casual *****
every bit as much as a man. But then, you've obviously never had sex,
so how would you know that?
Are you implying that he would have some way to know that even if he
*had* ever had sex?
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18 Jul 2007 07:29:03 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:27:16 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/104005.html
Arguements in favor of cheap women
....as opposed to the more expensive ones?
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18 Jul 2007 08:00:00 PM |
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18 Jul 2007,Stan-O <lctaht@ungo.com> in
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...as opposed to the more expensive ones?
are the dirty-diaper sex women cheaper?
http://www.google.com/search?q=diaper+sex+%7Eprostitute+republican
http://www.google.com/search?q=dirty-diaper+sex+%7C+%7Eprostitute+vitter+%
7Crepublican
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18 Jul 2007 09:01:18 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote in
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Subject: Arguments In Favor Of Cheap Sex Are Arguments For Cheapening
Women
Aparently the GOP likes cheap women.
And boys (Foley).
And donkeys (Google "Horsley mule Hannity").
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19 Jul 2007 01:50:31 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/104005.html
Arguements in favor of cheap women
My woman gives me free sex. Too bad for you conservatives have to pay to screw
teenage boys and 'escorts'.
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18 Jul 2007 10:23:38 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/104005.html
Arguements in favor of cheap women
An anonymous reader asks:
"Why is it unrealistic, if you in fact have the technological means to
avoid reproduction? I suppose realistically there is always a risk,
but it is similarly true that there is a risk involved in taking a
trip on a plane for a vacation..."
Allow me to answer. This is a perfectly good question, but it rests on
an assumption I would like you to question: the assumption that sex
can be cheapened without cheapening the sex-partner. It cannot be
done. To will the end wills the means; likewise, to disvalue the end
disvalues the means.
No one has to put up with this baby-machine crap
any more. Please, get used to it.
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On Jul 18, 3:23 pm, Anarcissie <anarcis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/104005.html
Arguements in favor of cheap women
An anonymous reader asks:
"Why is it unrealistic, if you in fact have the technological means to
avoid reproduction? I suppose realistically there is always a risk,
but it is similarly true that there is a risk involved in taking a
trip on a plane for a vacation..."
Allow me to answer. This is a perfectly good question, but it rests on
an assumption I would like you to question: the assumption thatsex
can be cheapened without cheapening thesex-partner. It cannot be
done. To will the end wills the means; likewise, to disvalue the end
disvalues the means.
No one has to put up with this baby-machine crap
any more. Please, get used to it.
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Many people have questions about how to have sex, but it isn't always
easy to get good advice. This page aims to answer some of the most
common questions that people ask about how you have sex.
How do you have sex?
Sexual intercourse is sometimes called making love or having sex. It
is when a man's hard penis goes inside a woman's vagina. If a man and
woman are having sexual intercourse, then using a contraceptive
properly, every time, will prevent the woman becoming pregnant. There
is more information on the contraceptive page.
If two people have sexual intercourse, and one of them has a sexual
infection, they could pass it on the other person. These infections
are sometimes called sexually transmitted infections (STIs) or
diseases (STDs). Using a condom is the best way to prevent any
infection from being passed from one person to the other.
Sexual intercourse between a man and a woman starts with them both
getting sexually excited. This is sometimes referred to as foreplay,
and might involve kissing and cuddling, touching each other and other
sexual activities. Foreplay is important as it means a woman's vagina
begins to get moist and a man gets an erection. If the woman's vagina
does not get moist enough, then having sexual intercourse could be
difficult or painful for her.
If a couple are going to use a condom for protection against pregnancy
or infections, they should put it on the man's penis as soon as he
gets an erection. Some men say they worry about using condoms in case
they lose their erection or have difficulty putting the condom on. You
could get some condoms and practice beforehand. Condoms come with
instructions in words and pictures which show exactly how to use them.
After the condom is on, the man or woman can guide his penis into her
vagina. The couple then move their bodies so that his penis moves up
and down inside her vagina. This usually rubs the penis and makes the
man sexually excited so that he has an orgasm. The movement might rub
the woman's clitoris too so she can have an orgasm. But this depends
on the position the couple are in when they have sexual intercourse.
Does having sex hurt?
If a woman is sexually excited and relaxed the vagina will probably be
moist enough for a man's penis to go in without hurting. The vagina is
very stretchy and, if a man and woman have sexual intercourse, usually
only part of the penis is inside the vagina. The average penis is
between eleven and eighteen centimetres long when it is erect.
If it hurts when you have sexual intercourse it may be because there
is not enough of the natural lubrication made by a woman's body when
she gets sexually aroused. Quite often being tense or rushing things
doesn't help, so try to relax and take your time.
You can also use extra lubrication, like KY Jelly, which you can buy
from supermarkets. But if you are using a condom, then you must use a
water-based lubricant like KY jelly, and not an oil-based lubricant
like Vaseline.
What 'counts' as losing your virginity?
Different people have different opinions on this, and some say there
are different types of virginity. But most people agree that if you
have had penetrative sex, then you are not a virgin. You can find more
information about having sex for the first time on our first time
page.
Which position is best for having sex?
There are quite a lot of different positions for sexual intercourse.
One common way is for the woman and man to be lying down, face to face
with either the woman or man on their back. If the man is lying on top
this is often referred to as the missionary position. Another way is
for the woman and man to lay on their sides with the man behind the
woman. If the man is behind the woman the penis might not rub her
clitoris and the woman or man can do this with their fingers.
Can a woman become pregnant even if she doesn't have sexual
intercourse?
Yes. If a man's penis goes near to a woman's vagina there may be sperm
in the fluid which comes out the man's penis before he ejaculates.
This can lead to pregnancy or a sexually transmitted infection. And a
woman can still become pregnant if she has sex standing up or in the
bath - this doesn't give any protection at all.
What does sex feel like?
Similar things happen to most people's bodies when they have sex -
they get sensitive and warm and excited and may have an orgasm.
Enjoying sexual activities with another person is possible whether you
have an orgasm or not. Not being able to have an orgasm with another
person doesn't mean that you don't fancy them or love them. Your
emotions might be different each time you have a sexual experience,
depending on the circumstances. Having sex can be one of the most
intense and pleasurable physical and emotional experiences a person
can have. But it won't always be wonderful.
How do you have an orgasm?
When sexual excitement builds up and reaches a peak a person might
experience an orgasm, also called a climax, or coming. The sexual
excitement might start from someone masturbating on their own, or
through kissing, masturbating or having sex with another person.
Sexual excitement usually grows gradually and a person feels more and
more pleasure and a kind of exciting tension. All the feelings of
tension then disappear when the orgasm happens, and the person
experiences feelings of intense pleasure. The feeling can be so strong
that a person might not be able to see, or hear or think about
anything for a moment. They might even groan and call out with the
pleasure. Orgasms usually last only a few seconds but the feelings
might last a lot longer.
When a man has an orgasm he ejaculates. This means that sperm mixed
with semen comes out of the end of his penis in a sticky white fluid.
After a man has ejaculated he loses his erection and usually needs to
stop for a while. When a woman has an orgasm, her vagina often becomes
very wet, but she can continue being sexually aroused as long as she
likes. Some women can experience more than one orgasm without
stopping.
If a person doesn't have an orgasm, it doesn't mean anything is wrong.
In fact, worrying about reaching an orgasm or being nervous is quite
likely to make it hard for a person to relax enough to have one.
What is anal intercourse?
Anal intercourse is when a man puts his penis into the ***** and rectum
of another man or woman. Some people might have strong feelings,
especially religious or moral feelings about anal intercourse. For
some people it is very pleasurable. But, other people may feel
uncomfortable about the idea of anal intercourse and may never want to
do it. Some people think anal intercourse between a woman and man is a
good thing to do as a way of avoiding pregnancy. But it is better
instead to avoid pregnancy by using contraception.
Anyone wanting to try anal intercourse ought to think about whether
the other person really wants to do it. If one person wants to try and
not the other it is better not to do it. Some people think that anal
intercourse is something that only gay men do. This is not true. Many
gay men never have anal intercourse. If two people are having anal
intercourse they should think about using a water-based lubricant,
like KY Jelly, and an extra strong condom.
How long does sex last?
It depends what you mean by sex. Sex can last any amount of time.
A man might find he comes very quickly the first time he has sexual
intercourse. Usually sexual intercourse lasts longer as people get
more experienced and know what to expect. But with a new partner it
can take time for people to get used to each other. Also every time
people have sex it is different, depending on how they feel and what
they want.
Is sex noisy?
Only if you want it to be! Some people do make noises when they having
sex. They might moan or groan with pleasure or even cry out. Some
people talk to each other. Others don't speak or make any noises. But
your body might make noises that you can't help - squelching and
squishing. These might be embarrassing or funny, but they are
perfectly normal.
How often do people have sex?
Sexual appetite is entirely a matter of personal taste. Some people
have sex once a day and others once a month. It probably varies for
most people depending on whether they are in a relationship, how busy
they are and how they feel. Most people think about sex far more often
than they do it.
How do you have oral sex?
Oral sex is when one person licks or sucks another person's penis or
vagina. When oral sex is done to a man it is sometimes called a
*****. When it is done to a woman it is sometimes called licking
out. If two people have oral sex with each other at the same time it
is sometimes called a 69 because of the shape their bodies make. A
woman cannot get pregnant from giving oral sex to a man, even if she
swallows his sperm.
Oral sex can be a very intense and intimate experience. Some people
enjoy giving oral sex or having it. Other people feel uncomfortable
about the idea and don't want to do it. Sometimes people feel pressure
to have oral sex when they don't want to. It is very important to
think about what the other person really wants if you want to have
oral sex. Some sexually transmitted infections can be passed on
through oral sex. There are flavoured condoms available that you can
use when having oral sex. These are to stop any infections which might
be passed on.
How do you masturbate?
A woman usually masturbates by rubbing, stroking or squeezing on or
around her clitoris. The clitoris is the most sensitive sexual part of
a woman. A woman might touch her breasts too. A man usually
masturbates by stroking or rubbing his penis. Especially round the
tip, which is the most sensitive part. Masturbation is sometimes
referred to as playing with yourself, or, especially with men, jerking
off, a hand job, or wanking.
People don't necessarily begin masturbating when they reach puberty.
Some people hardly ever masturbate, and others masturbate a lot. It
varies according to how a person feels. Some people masturbate when
they are in a relationship with someone. Masturbation can last as long
as you want, but generally people masturbate for between a few minutes
and half an hour.
There is no physical reason why you should or shouldn't masturbate. It
is not true that you'll go blind if you masturbate. It is not possible
to masturbate too much, but you should stop if you start to make
yourself feel sore. Some people think that if a man doesn't masturbate
his testes will fill up with sperm. This is not true; the sperm are
just absorbed into his body. It is also not true that women who think
about sex or masturbate are 'easy'.
What's this? WHERE NEXT ? AVERT.org has more about:
Frequently asked questions about sex
Questions about pregnancy
Contraception
Sun, sex and STDs
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18 Jul 2007 05:33:24 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/104005.html
Arguements in favor of cheap women
What do you feel about 'dirty' women?
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| User: "Barbi" |
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18 Jul 2007 05:45:20 PM |
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"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/104005.html
Arguements in favor of cheap women
What do you feel about 'dirty' women?
I need a dirty woman! It costs a lot to look cheap!
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| User: "Michael Price" |
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20 Jul 2007 01:38:33 AM |
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On Jul 19, 8:45 am, "Barbi" <gg21tr323...@c53ogmat.net> wrote:
"Martin" <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
news:469e9534$0$24748$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/104005.html
Arguements in favor of cheap women
What do you feel about 'dirty' women?
I need a dirty woman! It costs a lot to look cheap!
But it's worth every penny from where I sit.
; )
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| User: "IAAH" |
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18 Jul 2007 05:39:26 PM |
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Martin wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/104005.html
Arguements in favor of cheap women
What do you feel about 'dirty' women?
Sorry that none of them would have him?
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| User: "brique" |
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18 Jul 2007 11:15:41 PM |
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IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
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Martin wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/104005.html
Arguements in favor of cheap women
What do you feel about 'dirty' women?
Sorry that none of them would have him?
Arguments in favor of cheap women? They got lower running costs....
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| User: "Michael A. Clem macsnafuatintergatedotcom" |
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20 Jul 2007 02:02:25 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/104005.html
Arguements in favor of cheap women
But sex and romance, love and marriage are nothing like a casual
vacation. I am not saying that it will always be unrealistic to rely
on birth control. I am saying it is unrealistic to assume, that merely
because the cause-effect link between sex and reproduction is weaker
in a society that has reliable birth control, that ergo there is no
categorical link between sex and reproduction. The two are still
related as means and ends, even if the cause and effect link will one
day be utterly and reliably cut. Our biology and psychology are still
established in such a way to recognize that link. The circumstances
are reality, what I called the logic of the human heart, the laws of
supply and demand, still obtain.
But that's begging the question: how much is REALLY biology, and how
much is just cultural and social? Is sex necessary for romance? Is
marriage necessary for love?
A girl for whom sex is cheap, a value of low priority, cheapens
herself, places her self-value at a low value. Her feelings toward the
opposite sex must be forced down to a low value: she feels contempt
for men, and sex is nothing more than mere entertainment. All the
arguments in favor of cheap sex assume human life, human romance,
motherhood, virginity, and girls themselves are of low value. It
cannot logically be otherwise. That is the operation of the law of
supply and demand. One man, or one society, cannot at the same time
and in the same sense cherish romantic superlative emotion about
something which is held to be of no particular interest or
importance.
The laws of supply and demand argue for an equilibrium, not for "cheap".
If we take this literally, then cheap sex is necessarily going to be of
lower "quality" than more expensive sex. Thus, instead of cheap sex
causing women to have low self-esteem, it runs the other way: low
self-esteem would lead them to offer cheap sex.
In the end, you still get what you pay for--cheap sex is cheap for good
reason.
The more fundamental question, however, is this: can sex be separated
from other human values so discretely? Sexual pleasure can be intense,
but short-lived. I think men desire the intimacy and companionship a
long-term relationship can provide (in addition to sex) more than
they're usually willing to admit. You can pay for sex, but you can't
pay for romance.
The pleasure one gets by stimulating the sex organs does not exist in
a vacuum; it exists in a context. The context is that sexual organs
are sexual organs, reproductive organs. Using them for selfish
pleasure has a psychological cost, demeaning their utility as
reproductive organs.
This partially relates to the above question. Obviously, the purpose of
reproductive organs is to reproduce, and the desire for sex is to
encourage reproduction. If everyone sought sexual pleasure without
reproduction, we would see the end of the human race. But people don't
do that--reproduction and children are also values that humans desire.
The value of contraceptives is not merely in separating pleasure from
reproduction, but in allowing humans some control over reproduction,
ensuring that people can plan for it, and raise children under better
circumstances, thus ensuring fewer unwanted and unloved children and an
overall better society.
Adoption, too, can help with this, but is messier and more
time-consuming than contraception. Besides, governments regulate
adoption and thus reduce its effectiveness to society. Governments also
want to regulate contraceptives, and this, too, is a similar danger to
society, because reliable and effective contraceptives are necessary for
confident planning and avoiding unwanted pregnancies.
Darwinian evolution might not care, as you say, if the race lives or
dies, but I assume anyone reading my words now is alive, and, if only
tacitly, he has made a moral valuation of the preference of life over
death.
Survival of the species is a natural, biological imperative, but it
remains to be seen how much value that has at an individual level. Just
because a person values his or her life over death doesn't mean that he
or she cares to an equal degree about the human race in perpetuity.
Humans require civilizations to live in large numbers, and laws
and customs to live life at all. If one were arguing with a non-living
object, like a rock, perhaps one would have to prove the advantage of
life, health, sanity, and happiness over the alternatives, but no one
in my audience need ponder those arguments, as they are all living
beings. If someone wants to argue the advantages of single-parent
households, or of abandoning children to strangers, one no longer is a
member of the culture that values life and happiness.
The funny thing about humans is precisely that you have to assume that
they value life and happiness before you can make more complex arguments
for a progressive society. Even so, it's not self-evident that
single-parent households or "abandoning" children to strangers precludes
the values of life and happiness. But contraceptives help prevent
unwanted pregnancies and thus the need for children to be abandoned.
For that matter, so does abortion, but that takes us into murkier waters.
The more difficult questions have to do with psychology and social
effects of contraception on society. The purposes of marriage and the
family unit must be broken down and understood more fully to realize the
full implications of contraception. Customs and laws, and even the
conception of a "family" evolved over time to meet changing
circumstances. The nuclear family is decidedly different from the
extended family, and meets different needs.
While the institutions of marriage and family have great cultural and
social inertia in our current society, they have not been static, and do
not necessarily preclude recreational sex or contraceptives. You have
to argue for a specific kind of marriage or family unit, and in doing
so, it is difficult to make any argument for the "timelessness" of
marriage and family.
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| User: "Marcus Aurelius" |
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19 Jul 2007 04:23:16 PM |
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There is a simple argument for cheap and available sex which I will
borrow, in part, from Cicero's book, "On the Good Life."
First of all, sex brings pleasure. As such, it is inherently good.
It can do so simply, completely, and without complications.
The intensity of the pleasure generally depends upon the age, figure,
and physical beauty of the opposite party.
In my mind there simply is no rational argument to contradict the
aforementioned.
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| User: "Jenny6833A" |
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20 Jul 2007 02:12:44 AM |
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On Jul 19, 2:23?pm, Marcus Aurelius <alexander...@hotmail.com> wrote:
First of all, sex brings pleasure. As such, it is inherently good.
OK.
It can do so simply, completely, and without complications.
It can, and sometimes does, but doesn't always.
The intensity of the pleasure generally depends upon the age, figure,
and physical beauty of the opposite party.
Now you've gone nuts.
In my mind there simply is no rational argument to contradict the
aforementioned.
You'll learn differently with time.
:-)
Jenny
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| User: "Tom S" |
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20 Jul 2007 08:05:15 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:12:44 -0700, Jenny6833A <Jenny6833A@aol.com>
wrote:
On Jul 19, 2:23?pm, Marcus Aurelius <alexander...@hotmail.com> wrote:
First of all, sex brings pleasure. As such, it is inherently good.
OK.
It can do so simply, completely, and without complications.
It can, and sometimes does, but doesn't always.
The intensity of the pleasure generally depends upon the age, figure,
and physical beauty of the opposite party.
Now you've gone nuts.
In my mind there simply is no rational argument to contradict the
aforementioned.
You'll learn differently with time.
Probably not. Some guys never do. (((^:
Tom S.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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19 Jul 2007 05:36:58 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:23:16 -0700, in alt.atheism , Marcus Aurelius
<alexander26a@hotmail.com> in
<1184880196.200328.228950@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> wrote:
There is a simple argument for cheap and available sex which I will
borrow, in part, from Cicero's book, "On the Good Life."
First of all, sex brings pleasure. As such, it is inherently good.
It can do so simply, completely, and without complications.
The intensity of the pleasure generally depends upon the age, figure,
and physical beauty of the opposite party.
In my mind there simply is no rational argument to contradict the
aforementioned.
Observation, however, shows that there are plenty of complications
involved, from emotional entanglements to diseases to pregnancy.
Observation trumps argument.
--
Matt Silberstein
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