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Author: Despite NOW, Many Women Opting for Stay-at-Home Parenting |
What the ladies at NOW fail to comprehend is that today's woman rejects
those looney liberal ideals. Decency and wholesome, family values are again
becoming more desirable than the need to compete with men. The political
tide has turned against 'Roe v Wade' and motherhood is once again cherished.
NOW has become an acronym for "N(ot) O(ne) W(inner)"
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/6/52006d.asp
(AgapePress) - Author and stay-at-home mom Suzanne Venker says the leaders
of the National Organization for Women, or NOW, are out of touch with real
women of today.
Elizabeth Vargas, co-anchor of ABC's "World News Tonight," recently
announced she is leaving the program because of her pregnancy and her desire
to spend more time with her other child. However, NOW president Kim Gandy
finds the situation suspicious and is positing the possibility of network
discrimination against Vargas.
Gandy wrote an article on the NOW website decrying Vargas' departure and
suggesting that the ABC anchorwoman was dumped, not unlike the ABC show
"Commander in Chief," for presenting viewers with a strong female image.
The head of NOW says it seems unlikely that Vargas, "having survived and
thrived through her first pregnancy ... would logically give up the top job
in TV a few months out, anticipating she couldn't handle it." And since the
newswoman's decision to leave her prime "World News Tonight" position to
spend time with her children seems illogical to Gandy, the women's
organization president says she smells a rat.
But Suzanne Venker, author of 7 Myths of Working Mothers (Spence Publishing,
2004), thinks that response has a rather suspicious odor all its own. She
says NOW is an organization whose leaders are bent on playing the
discrimination card even where none exists.
"And every time a woman today makes any choice that is not what they would
want her to make," Venker adds, "that is, to stay in the workforce full
time, regardless of your situation with your children -- then there must be
a 'rat' defined, because, [as NOW sees it,] you couldn't possibly have
chosen this."
Gandy and NOW seem to think every woman who wants a family can and should be
a career-oriented mom who hands her children off to daycare, the author
says. But today, she asserts, it is a growing trend that more women are
realizing they cannot do it all, maintaining a fabulous career while
managing a home and raising perfect children.
"If the world functioned differently, and if we had our system set up in
such a way that allowed women to succeed at both of these pursuits, both
motherhood and career simultaneously, then women wouldn't have to make these
choices," Venker says.
"But, of course," the stay-at-home parent continues, "women are voluntarily
making the 'choice' -- to use the term we use today -- to opt out in order
to be with their children." And that fact is going to upset the feminists of
NOW and groups like it, she adds, "because that defies their entire agenda."
Gandy and the National Organization for Women need to catch up with the
times, Venker insists. She says more women are recognizing motherhood as the
full-time job it is rather than something they can do on the side, and those
who choose to be stay-at-home moms should be supported and commended for
their decision.
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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07 Jun 2006 12:02:56 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
What the ladies at NOW fail to comprehend is that today's woman rejects
those looney liberal ideals.
As opposed to your ideals of war and killing and dictatorship?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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07 Jun 2006 12:29:09 PM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Y4CdnU-gNZKdwBvZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
What the ladies at NOW fail to comprehend is that today's woman rejects
those looney liberal ideals. Decency and wholesome, family values are
again
becoming more desirable than the need to compete with men. The political
tide has turned against 'Roe v Wade' and motherhood is once again
cherished.
NOW has become an acronym for "N(ot) O(ne) W(inner)"
That's nice.
What happens if her husband ups and leaves her?
What happens if her husband dies?
What happens if her husband is too ill to hold down a job?
What happens if her husband is an abusive alcoholic?
What happens if her husband has a job that is too low paying to live on?
Why do you assume that all women want to be, or that all women should be
stay at home parents? We're not little carbon copies of each other, we all
have different abilities, opinions, feelings. Your arrogance proves you're
nothing more than a sad little misogynistic ***** who probably years for the
day when beating women was acceptable.
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| User: "Miriam Cohen" |
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07 Jun 2006 01:48:46 PM |
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kathryn wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Y4CdnU-gNZKdwBvZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
What the ladies at NOW fail to comprehend is that today's woman rejects
those looney liberal ideals. Decency and wholesome, family values are
again
becoming more desirable than the need to compete with men. The political
tide has turned against 'Roe v Wade' and motherhood is once again
cherished.
NOW has become an acronym for "N(ot) O(ne) W(inner)"
That's nice.
What happens if her husband ups and leaves her?
What happens if her husband dies?
What happens if her husband is too ill to hold down a job?
What happens if her husband is an abusive alcoholic?
What happens if her husband has a job that is too low paying to live on?
Why do you assume that all women want to be, or that all women should be
stay at home parents? We're not little carbon copies of each other, we all
have different abilities, opinions, feelings. Your arrogance proves you're
nothing more than a sad little misogynistic ***** who probably years for the
day when beating women was acceptable.
You go, girl! Very well said, but caveman, bigot "J" will never "get it".
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L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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07 Jun 2006 12:48:35 AM |
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a =E9crit :
What the ladies at NOW fail to comprehend is that today's woman rejects
those looney liberal ideals.
Wanna check on that?
Decency
What do you know about decency? You're racist, intolerant and bigoted.
and wholesome, family values are again
becoming more desirable than the need to compete with men.
Since women are equal to men, there is no competition.
And family values have nothing to do with women staying at home.
And since you brought this topic: I really would like to meet your
parents and see which "family values" they've taught you... Obviously,
they failed big time...
The political
tide has turned against 'Roe v Wade' and motherhood is once again cherish=
ed.
Which has nothing to with staying at home or not.
NOW has become an acronym for "N(ot) O(ne) W(inner)"
Are you also in favor of child labor and slavery? Since you're so
rooted in the 19th century...
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/6/52006d.asp
(AgapePress) - Author and stay-at-home mom Suzanne Venker says the leaders
of the National Organization for Women, or NOW, are out of touch with real
women of today.
Elizabeth Vargas, co-anchor of ABC's "World News Tonight," recently
announced she is leaving the program because of her pregnancy and her des=
ire
to spend more time with her other child. However, NOW president Kim Gandy
finds the situation suspicious and is positing the possibility of network
discrimination against Vargas.
Gandy wrote an article on the NOW website decrying Vargas' departure and
suggesting that the ABC anchorwoman was dumped, not unlike the ABC show
"Commander in Chief," for presenting viewers with a strong female image.
The head of NOW says it seems unlikely that Vargas, "having survived and
thrived through her first pregnancy ... would logically give up the top j=
ob
in TV a few months out, anticipating she couldn't handle it." And since t=
he
newswoman's decision to leave her prime "World News Tonight" position to
spend time with her children seems illogical to Gandy, the women's
organization president says she smells a rat.
But Suzanne Venker, author of 7 Myths of Working Mothers (Spence Publishi=
ng,
2004), thinks that response has a rather suspicious odor all its own. She
says NOW is an organization whose leaders are bent on playing the
discrimination card even where none exists.
"And every time a woman today makes any choice that is not what they would
want her to make," Venker adds, "that is, to stay in the workforce full
time, regardless of your situation with your children -- then there must =
be
a 'rat' defined, because, [as NOW sees it,] you couldn't possibly have
chosen this."
Gandy and NOW seem to think every woman who wants a family can and should=
be
a career-oriented mom who hands her children off to daycare, the author
says. But today, she asserts, it is a growing trend that more women are
realizing they cannot do it all, maintaining a fabulous career while
managing a home and raising perfect children.
"If the world functioned differently, and if we had our system set up in
such a way that allowed women to succeed at both of these pursuits, both
motherhood and career simultaneously, then women wouldn't have to make th=
ese
choices," Venker says.
"But, of course," the stay-at-home parent continues, "women are voluntari=
ly
making the 'choice' -- to use the term we use today -- to opt out in order
to be with their children." And that fact is going to upset the feminists=
of
NOW and groups like it, she adds, "because that defies their entire agend=
a=2E"
Gandy and the National Organization for Women need to catch up with the
times, Venker insists. She says more women are recognizing motherhood as =
the
full-time job it is rather than something they can do on the side, and th=
ose
who choose to be stay-at-home moms should be supported and commended for
their decision.
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J Young
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07 Jun 2006 06:44:15 PM |
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wrote:
[snip]
Anyone else notice anything a tad odd?
Yep. No men being mentioned as important to the kiddies lives.
Curiously, men are allegedly supremely important to raising up a
heterosexual child. Some folks even go so far as to assert that too much
female influence turns children gay.
Strange that they'd leave out something like that.
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "LC" |
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07 Jun 2006 08:01:46 AM |
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Anti-women nutcase <> aka
wrote in message news:Y4CdnU-gNZKdwBvZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
What the ladies at NOW fail to comprehend is that today's woman rejects
those looney liberal ideals. Decency and wholesome, family values are
again becoming more desirable than the need to compete with men. The
political tide has turned against 'Roe v Wade' and motherhood is once
again cherished.
NOW has become an acronym for "N(ot) O(ne) W(inner)"
So...how does "J" really feel about "ladies"?:
"This woman had alot of audacity
interjecting her typically airheaded,female opinions into matters that
were never her business to begin with.Thank God that when George W.
needs female input,he at least seeks a woman with some common sense;a
very rare commodity indeed."
From: (Jon Young)
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404130836.f6fa868@posting.google.com>
"I didn't mean all women were sluts, just the ones who dismiss
abstinence as the most effective method to prevent unwanted pregnancies
and STD's."
From: "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1103695184.184146.108650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
"At the risk of tarnishing my reputation as an egalitarian, I state
unequivocally; women are an absolute terror on the road and should be
banned from driving in metropolitan areas. Not one day ever passes
without some woman doing something to disrupt the flow of traffic.
They are the cause of numerous fender-benders. Parking on a public
street is pure entertainment for a heckler. Parking lots are an
absolute disaster. Now I know as well as anyone that there are some
women who drive as well as a man. The problem is the majority of women
cannot handle driving inside city limits, and should be confined to
driving in rural and suburban areas."
From: (J Young)
Newsgroups: houston.general,tx.genPublic transportation is always a
viable, reliable option for the ladies to get about town."
eral,alt.abortion,soc.men,alt.feminism
Subject: Women drivers
Date: 19 Sep 2004 21:26:09 -0700
Message-ID: <9c2d0f9a.0409192026.24f0cc96@posting.google.com>
LC~ Poor 'lil "J" clearly desperately seeks the attention on Usenet he gets
so little of in real life.
"The fact that J Young keeps coming back to alt.atheism
knowing how we feel about him - a mix of astonishment
at his deliberate ignorance, loathing of his bigotry and
pity due to how pathetic hs is - says a lot about his
desperation for any kind of human reaction to him. It's
really rather sad."
From: "Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <T-adnaVQ3tFXtErenZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@comcast.com>
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07 Jun 2006 06:54:36 AM |
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:58:58 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<Y4CdnU-gNZKdwBvZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
More propagandizing spam from one of the usual sources.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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07 Jun 2006 08:03:41 AM |
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In article <bjfd829dv3h3g1nu7g9pedoeliu152e126@4ax.com>,
Attila2 <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:58:58 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<Y4CdnU-gNZKdwBvZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
More propagandizing spam from one of the usual sources.
you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
do you feel like a hypocrite criticizing others for doing what you
do? even osprey has legitimately commented on your hypocrisy.
your hypocrisy aside, what you might want to do to make yourself feel
like an even bigger ***** is take a random sample of posts you've
whined about and then search google for the number of posts with this
topic, demonstrating that readers know what is of interest to them
far better than you do.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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07 Jun 2006 07:51:36 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and <youngopinions@aol.com> posting
the following on Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:58:58 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
What the ladies at NOW fail to comprehend is that today's woman rejects
those looney liberal ideals. Decency and wholesome, family values are again
becoming more desirable than the need to compete with men. The political
tide has turned against 'Roe v Wade' and motherhood is once again cherished.
NOW has become an acronym for "N(ot) O(ne) W(inner)"
Heh. My sister is one of these women whop opted to stay home. Not
because society forced her to do so, but because she and her husband
decided that this was best for them. She plans to return to work when
their children are old enough to spend a few hours by themselves.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing." - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
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07 Jun 2006 11:08:07 AM |
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:51:36 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and <youngopinions@aol.com> posting
the following on Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:58:58 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
What the ladies at NOW fail to comprehend is that today's woman rejects
those looney liberal ideals. Decency and wholesome, family values are again
becoming more desirable than the need to compete with men. The political
tide has turned against 'Roe v Wade' and motherhood is once again cherished.
NOW has become an acronym for "N(ot) O(ne) W(inner)"
Chuckle. NOW was about choice to work or stay home. And now more men
then ever are stay at home dads allowing their wives to work. But
let's not talk about that right?
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07 Jun 2006 11:41:48 AM |
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<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Chuckle. NOW was about choice to work or stay home. And now more men
then ever are stay at home dads allowing their wives to work. But
let's not talk about that right?
During the child-rearing years, economic necessities sometime dictates that
a woman will need to join the work force. However, any male who makes plans
to send his wife off to work while he stays at home, without a job while he
raises the children, is not a man at all. Like I said, sometimes a woman
*must* work, but that doesn't excuse a male playing "mommy". People are once
again centering their lives around the family. That is a good thing.
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07 Jun 2006 04:57:27 PM |
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schrieb:
<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Chuckle. NOW was about choice to work or stay home. And now more men
then ever are stay at home dads allowing their wives to work. But
let's not talk about that right?
During the child-rearing years, economic necessities sometime dictates that
a woman will need to join the work force. However, any male who makes plans
to send his wife off to work while he stays at home, without a job while he
raises the children, is not a man at all.
What are your credentials on this subject? Are you married? DO you have
children?
Why don't you think to what you know best: pathetic losers with no
lives and whose only validation is to be insulted daily...
And since we're discussing what makes a man: when's the last time you
were with a woman? Judging by the time you send your moronic postings,
you seem to spend quite a lot of evenings alone, including Fridays and
Saturdays...
Like I said, sometimes a woman
*must* work, but that doesn't excuse a male playing "mommy". People are once
again centering their lives around the family. That is a good thing.
Do you have a family? What do you know about family?
Your mere existence is doing more in favor of abortion than you'll ever
know...
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07 Jun 2006 01:46:45 PM |
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:41:48 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Chuckle. NOW was about choice to work or stay home. And now more men
then ever are stay at home dads allowing their wives to work. But
let's not talk about that right?
During the child-rearing years, economic necessities sometime dictates that
a woman will need to join the work force.
Sexist undertone noted.
However, any male who makes plans
to send his wife off to work while he stays at home, without a job while he
raises the children, is not a man at all.
Sexist macho ***** about "what a man should be." If 'man at home, wife at
work' is what they decide together, then fine. None of your business, and
definitely no justification for your sexism.
Like I said, sometimes a woman
*must* work
Like, whenever she wants to make money? :P What about all the women who
aren't married?
but that doesn't excuse a male playing "mommy".
Excuse?! _Super_ LOL for acting like a husband staying at home is a _crime_
or something.
People are once
again centering their lives around the family. That is a good thing.
And also completely unrelated to anything you said.
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07 Jun 2006 03:46:43 PM |
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:41:48 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ldud82l29f7ms93u9bfs51sot04ke0j1b9@4ax.com...
Chuckle. NOW was about choice to work or stay home. And now more men
then ever are stay at home dads allowing their wives to work. But
let's not talk about that right?
During the child-rearing years, economic necessities sometime dictates that
a woman will need to join the work force. However, any male who makes plans
to send his wife off to work while he stays at home, without a job while he
raises the children, is not a man at all.
Chuckle. Like you would have the first clue of what being a man is
about.
Like I said, sometimes a woman
*must* work, but that doesn't excuse a male playing "mommy".
So it's women in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant and dad at work
with no time for the kids?
People are once
again centering their lives around the family.
Once again? ***** every family is centered around their kids. Now if
the GOP agenda would just stop undermining it by eroding the living
wage, pushing up prices, and causing a cheap labor market where all
too often both parents have to work, often more than one job and we
end up raising a generation of latch key kids, we might really have
something to talk about. Meanwhile they fight family leave, child
care, etc. The GOP's "family values" is like flag burning amendments.
Trotted out every so often but with all actions ignoring it . The
GOP's corporate cronyism is the biggest threat the family has seen. in
decades.
That is a good thing.
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07 Jun 2006 11:11:55 AM |
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wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:51:36 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and <youngopinions@aol.com> posting
the following on Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:58:58 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
What the ladies at NOW fail to comprehend is that today's woman rejects
those looney liberal ideals. Decency and wholesome, family values are again
becoming more desirable than the need to compete with men. The political
tide has turned against 'Roe v Wade' and motherhood is once again cherished.
NOW has become an acronym for "N(ot) O(ne) W(inner)"
Chuckle. NOW was about choice to work or stay home.
NOW was never about choice. Try not lying next time.
And now more men
then ever are stay at home dads allowing their wives to work. But
let's not talk about that right?
________________
I am human; nothing in humanity is alien to me.
Terence
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