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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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18 Jan 2005 02:48:41 AM |
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AWOL Ponders War in Iran.... |
With who, NeoCon chickenhawk cannon fodders?
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"President Bush said on Monday he would not rule out military action
against Iran if that country was not more forthcoming about its
suspected nuclear weapons program."
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&e=3&u=/nm/20050118/pl_nm/iran_usa_dc
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a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1367 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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18 Jan 2005 12:31:24 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:48:41 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> said in
alt.atheism:
"President Bush said on Monday he would not rule out military action
against Iran if that country was not more forthcoming about its
suspected nuclear weapons program."
"suspected nuclear weapons program" is a neocon codeword for "we want
to invade them".
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faculties to prove the statement 'dogshit is not peanut butter' if we
gave you a jar of each and a box of crackers" - John Hattan to Tichy
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19 Jan 2005 09:25:13 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:31:24 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
"suspected nuclear weapons program" is a neocon codeword for "we want
to invade them".
Nukes are no good if everyone has them, ya know. Cause then you can't
use them.
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20 Jan 2005 10:14:44 AM |
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Rune B. wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:31:24 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
"suspected nuclear weapons program" is a neocon codeword for "we want
to invade them".
Nukes are no good if everyone has them, ya know. Cause then you can't
use them.
Sounds like a good thing to me.
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Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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18 Jan 2005 03:05:24 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:48:41 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
"President Bush said on Monday he would not rule out military action
against Iran if that country was not more forthcoming about its
suspected nuclear weapons program."
To be fair, Bush would not rule out military action against numerous
countries. That doesn't mean they're necessarily plotting war.
That said, they are capable of pretty much anything...
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18 Jan 2005 05:11:40 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:48:41 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting
*****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
With who, NeoCon chickenhawk cannon fodders?
Maybe a limited draft, taliban. I hear the primary candidates for callup are 30 year old
false econ majors with Pretty hard Drives
duke
In God We Trust
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Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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18 Jan 2005 10:15:53 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:11:40 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:48:41 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting
*****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
With who, NeoCon chickenhawk cannon fodders?
Maybe a limited draft, taliban. I hear the primary candidates for callup are 30 year old
false econ majors with Pretty hard Drives
Right after they grab little ***** Chiekcnhawks who lie about their
war record.
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"No, we both served [during Vietnam]"
-Earl Weber, 9/6/2004
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yang++alt.atheism+duke+hell+no&hl=e...
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1369 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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20 Jan 2005 07:43:01 AM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
With who, NeoCon chickenhawk cannon fodders?
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"President Bush said on Monday he would not rule out military action
against Iran if that country was not more forthcoming about its
suspected nuclear weapons program."
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&e=3&u=/nm/20050118/pl_nm/iran_usa_dc
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Shrub funnels $65 million to influence the Ukranian election, yet
does nothing to support the progressive movement in the Iranian
election, letting their fledgeling democracy slide backward. Now
he's looking for an excuse to invade Iran and overthrow another
government heading toward democracy.
Between Iran and the US interference in Venezuela, it's clear
Shrub has no interest in promoting democracy, but instead wants
to appoint friendly dictatorships, most recently Afghanistan and
Iraq. (Anyone who thinks both are "democracies" has no clue.)
Bob Dog
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20 Jan 2005 10:17:47 AM |
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< snip >
Between Iran and the US interference in Venezuela, it's clear
Shrub has no interest in promoting democracy, but instead wants
to appoint friendly dictatorships
That's been standard Republican strategy for at least 25 years.
< snip >
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Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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22 Jan 2005 05:51:10 AM |
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Tukla Ratte wrote:
bg12345@apexmail.com wrote:
< snip >
Between Iran and the US interference in Venezuela, it's clear
Shrub has no interest in promoting democracy, but instead wants
to appoint friendly dictatorships
That's been standard Republican strategy for at least 25 years.
< snip >
And democrats too. Truman was in when Nazi scientists
were given sanctuary, Johnson attacked Vietnam (which
has flourished under communism compared to all US
friendly dictatorships), and Clinton continued the
harassment of Nicaragua and its attempts to re-elect
the Sandanistas.
Bob Dog
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22 Jan 2005 06:03:56 AM |
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Tukla Ratte wrote:
bg12345@apexmail.com wrote:
< snip >
Between Iran and the US interference in Venezuela, it's clear
Shrub has no interest in promoting democracy, but instead wants
to appoint friendly dictatorships
That's been standard Republican strategy for at least 25 years.
< snip >
And democrats too. Truman was in when Nazi scientists
were given sanctuary, Johnson attacked Vietnam (which
has flourished under communism compared to all US
friendly dictatorships), and Clinton continued the
harassment of Nicaragua and its attempts to re-elect
the Sandanistas.
Bob Dog
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18 Jan 2005 04:19:08 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
With who, NeoCon chickenhawk cannon fodders?
His base? No way!
He'll just draft lower-income teenagers. That way there won't be any
awkward draft-dodging for his pals' kids.
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Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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18 Jan 2005 05:40:44 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:19:08 -0600, Tukla Ratte
<tukla_ratte@tukla.net> said in alt.atheism:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
With who, NeoCon chickenhawk cannon fodders?
His base? No way!
He'll just draft lower-income teenagers. That way there won't be any
awkward draft-dodging for his pals' kids.
He wouldn't want them to have to do what he did.
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"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the
type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his
physical death is also beyond my comprehension,...; such notions are for the fears or
absurd egoism of feeble souls."
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21 Jan 2005 09:52:10 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:40:44 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:19:08 -0600, Tukla Ratte
<tukla_ratte@tukla.net> said in alt.atheism:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
With who, NeoCon chickenhawk cannon fodders?
His base? No way!
He'll just draft lower-income teenagers. That way there won't be any
awkward draft-dodging for his pals' kids.
He wouldn't want them to have to do what he did.
Chicken out.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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21 Jan 2005 03:07:42 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote
Chicken out.
Pheh. He couldn't even have chickened out without daddy. His entire
priveledged frat boy life has been dependant on daddy's teat. The horrible
thing about it is that he's now American Aristocracy. He thinks he DESERVES
his priveledged existance, and that the poor DESERVE to be killed in his war
because they are somehow not worth as much as he is.
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21 Jan 2005 07:49:54 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:07:42 -0500, "Ingot"
<cleahy@spamstinks.iglou.com> wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote
Chicken out.
Pheh. He couldn't even have chickened out without daddy. His entire
priveledged frat boy life has been dependant on daddy's teat.
I know. :\
The horrible
thing about it is that he's now American Aristocracy. He thinks he DESERVES
his priveledged existance, and that the poor DESERVE to be killed in his war
because they are somehow not worth as much as he is.
GWB, and crew, are wastes of oxygen, space, nutrients, and skin. Ah,
well.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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23 Jan 2005 12:00:10 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:49:54 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
GWB, and crew, are wastes of oxygen, space, nutrients, and skin. Ah,
well.
And once they pass a new Sedition Act, you won't even be able to say
that.
--
Zymurgist # 2
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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23 Jan 2005 12:06:29 AM |
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In article <haf6v0tk6s0b4ugj0le8crun5f131k3qsf@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:49:54 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
GWB, and crew, are wastes of oxygen, space, nutrients, and skin. Ah,
well.
And once they pass a new Sedition Act, you won't even be able to say
that.
Joke all you like - it is probably coming.
http://home.earthlink.net/~acisney2/id124.html
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23 Jan 2005 12:35:55 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:06:29 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
In article <haf6v0tk6s0b4ugj0le8crun5f131k3qsf@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:49:54 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
GWB, and crew, are wastes of oxygen, space, nutrients, and skin. Ah,
well.
And once they pass a new Sedition Act, you won't even be able to say
that.
Joke all you like - it is probably coming.
Who was joking. Am I the only one who took Bush seriously when he
said that it would be easier if this were a dictatorship?
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Zymurgist # 2
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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23 Jan 2005 12:38:27 AM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:06:29 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
In article <haf6v0tk6s0b4ugj0le8crun5f131k3qsf@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:49:54 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
GWB, and crew, are wastes of oxygen, space, nutrients, and skin. Ah,
well.
And once they pass a new Sedition Act, you won't even be able to say
that.
Joke all you like - it is probably coming.
Who was joking. Am I the only one who took Bush seriously when he
said that it would be easier if this were a dictatorship?
No. Check out ImpeachBush.com.
--
Zymurgist # 2
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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23 Jan 2005 12:47:21 AM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:06:29 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
In article <haf6v0tk6s0b4ugj0le8crun5f131k3qsf@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:49:54 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
GWB, and crew, are wastes of oxygen, space, nutrients, and skin. Ah,
well.
And once they pass a new Sedition Act, you won't even be able to say
that.
Joke all you like - it is probably coming.
Who was joking. Am I the only one who took Bush seriously when he
said that it would be easier if this were a dictatorship?
As a matter of interest, when did he say this?
L.
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BEFRIEND, v.t. To make an ingrate.
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23 Jan 2005 01:04:52 AM |
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In article <UrOdnXybNrL51W7cRVn-3g@giganews.com>, William Daffer
<whdaffer@wabcmail.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:06:29 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
In article <haf6v0tk6s0b4ugj0le8crun5f131k3qsf@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:49:54 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
GWB, and crew, are wastes of oxygen, space, nutrients, and skin. Ah,
well.
And once they pass a new Sedition Act, you won't even be able to say
that.
Joke all you like - it is probably coming.
Who was joking. Am I the only one who took Bush seriously when he
said that it would be easier if this were a dictatorship?
As a matter of interest, when did he say this?
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator." ‹Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
He also said, "When I was waiting in that school to go into the
classroom, I was watching the television and when I saw that jumbo jet
fly into the World Trade Center, I thought to myself, ŒWow, there's one
really bad pilot.¹²
But he got re-elected.
Compare that to, "Yesterday, December 7, 1941 - a date which will live
in infamy. The United States Of America was suddenly and deliberately
attacked by Naval and Air Forces of the Empire of Japan. It is obvious
that planning the attack began many weeks ago, during the intervening
time the Japanese Government has deliberately sought to deceive the
United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued
peace. The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian Islands has caused severe
damage to American military forces, I regret to tell you that over
three thousand American lives have been lost. No matter how long it may
take us to over come this pre-meditated invasion, the American people
in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory. Because
of this unprovoked, dastardly attack by Japan, I ask that the congress
declare a state of War. " - President Franklin D. Roosevelt
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23 Jan 2005 10:25:07 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> writes:
In article <UrOdnXybNrL51W7cRVn-3g@giganews.com>, William Daffer
<whdaffer@wabcmail.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
[snip]
Who was joking. Am I the only one who took Bush seriously when he
said that it would be easier if this were a dictatorship?
As a matter of interest, when did he say this?
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator." .Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
Thanks!
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Geborgter saichel toig nit!
"Borrowed brains have no value!"
Yiddish saying
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23 Jan 2005 10:35:43 AM |
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"William Daffer" <whdaffer@wabcmail.com> wrote in message
news:fMGdnQQnt9FPUm7cRVn-qg@giganews.com...
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> writes:
In article <UrOdnXybNrL51W7cRVn-3g@giganews.com>, William Daffer
<whdaffer@wabcmail.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
[snip]
Who was joking. Am I the only one who took Bush seriously when he
said that it would be easier if this were a dictatorship?
As a matter of interest, when did he say this?
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator." .Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
Thanks!
Now, how about doing something that they are not doing. They are taking his
quote way out of context, it was a joke about the top leaders in the
democratic party.
GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there
were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's
OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
He certainly didn't mean it, like they want you to think. But, hey, if you
want to believe it...that is up to you. Just know that they are taking his
quote out of context.
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23 Jan 2005 09:59:55 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"William Daffer" <whdaffer@wabcmail.com> wrote in message
news:fMGdnQQnt9FPUm7cRVn-qg@giganews.com...
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> writes:
In article <UrOdnXybNrL51W7cRVn-3g@giganews.com>, William Daffer
<whdaffer@wabcmail.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
[snip]
Who was joking. Am I the only one who took Bush seriously when he
said that it would be easier if this were a dictatorship?
As a matter of interest, when did he say this?
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator." .Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
Thanks!
Now, how about doing something that they are not doing. They are taking his
quote way out of context, it was a joke about the top leaders in the
democratic party.
GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there
were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's
OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
He certainly didn't mean it, like they want you to think. But, hey, if you
want to believe it...that is up to you. Just know that they are taking his
quote out of context.
Perhaps. But sometimes humor reveals darker currents. Why *that*
particular point? Why *that* particular circumstance? Why would he
choose to characterize the disagreement as if it were a choice
between democracy and dictatorship?
I think that's revealing.
I find that Bush exhibits many, well, anti-democratic tendencies.
He's legendary for his secretiveness, Cheney too. The 'Energy
Taskforce,' for example. He and his administration seem fairly
impervious to contradictory evidence. WMD in Iraq, the greenhouse
gasses flap in the EPA report, stemcell research, the need for some
sort of plan for post-invasion Iraq beyond the pitiful failure that
the DoD came up with. In each case there were dissenting voices,
some of them extremely prominent and many of them in the majority
(stemcell, greenhouse gasses) which the administration simply
ignored, choosing instead to listen to voices in the minority as if
they were authoritative or mischaracterizing the evidence as being
more equivocal than it really is.
whd
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Prediction is difficult, especially the future.
Niels Bohr
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"William Daffer" <whdaffer@wabcmail.com> wrote in message
news:26ydnc1pOZw572ncRVn-sg@giganews.com...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"William Daffer" <whdaffer@wabcmail.com> wrote in message
news:fMGdnQQnt9FPUm7cRVn-qg@giganews.com...
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> writes:
In article <UrOdnXybNrL51W7cRVn-3g@giganews.com>, William Daffer
<whdaffer@wabcmail.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
[snip]
Who was joking. Am I the only one who took Bush seriously when he
said that it would be easier if this were a dictatorship?
As a matter of interest, when did he say this?
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator." .Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
Thanks!
Now, how about doing something that they are not doing. They are taking
his
quote way out of context, it was a joke about the top leaders in the
democratic party.
GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there
were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But
that's
OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
He certainly didn't mean it, like they want you to think. But, hey, if
you
want to believe it...that is up to you. Just know that they are taking
his
quote out of context.
Perhaps. But sometimes humor reveals darker currents. Why *that*
particular point? Why *that* particular circumstance? Why would he
choose to characterize the disagreement as if it were a choice
between democracy and dictatorship?
I don't know, and no one else knows either.
I think that's revealing.
Well, we are all entitled to believe what we want, that is part of what
makes this country so great.
We have the freedom to choose and believe what we want and voice our
opinion.
I find that Bush exhibits many, well, anti-democratic tendencies.
He's legendary for his secretiveness, Cheney too. The 'Energy
Taskforce,' for example. He and his administration seem fairly
impervious to contradictory evidence. WMD in Iraq, the greenhouse
gasses flap in the EPA report, stemcell research, the need for some
sort of plan for post-invasion Iraq beyond the pitiful failure that
the DoD came up with. In each case there were dissenting voices,
some of them extremely prominent and many of them in the majority
(stemcell, greenhouse gasses) which the administration simply
ignored, choosing instead to listen to voices in the minority as if
they were authoritative or mischaracterizing the evidence as being
more equivocal than it really is.
Well, the way I look at it is like this. Right or wrong, Bush leads by what
he thinks is right.
He doesn't waiver too often, he is pretty stern on some issues.
I am not going to pretend Bush is perfect. Personally, between him and Kerry
I think Bush
is the better person, not the best person. I have questioned Bush before,
but like anyone else
I am only limited to what we hear on television and I will form my own
opinions.
One of the things I admire about Bush is something that happened on his trip
to England a few years ago.
There were thousands of protesters, screaming anti-Bush slogans, carrying
signs, and so forth.
Bush's motorcade rode by them and the reporter that was riding with him said
Bush smiled and said something like,
"Just a few months ago the people in Iraq couldn't voice their opinion, now
they can. This is a wonderful sight".
Another thing I like about Bush, the reporter that broke the story that he
was arrested in 1979 for driving under the influence.
He reported to an interview the very next day as scheduled. Most would
think he would be mad for that story leaking out.
The reporter that broke it was there. Bush nicknamed him camarón, which
means shrimp in spanish. Bush walked up to him,
smiled and rubbed the back of his head and told him, "Good job on the
story", and walked away.
Those are qualities I do like, he didn't get all pissed and try to take
revenge.
I think Bush accepts things for what they are, I think he is a very genuine
person at times. Sure, he has made mistakes. No one
is perfect, and yes he should be accountable for his mistakes.
I think back though on his comment about the protesters in England, and we
should be happy that we do live in a country where
we are free to express our opinion. As long as we do it without harming
others or causing a public disturbance.
whd
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Prediction is difficult, especially the future.
Niels Bohr
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23 Jan 2005 10:55:32 AM |
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In article <QtadnX0WAvl-TG7cRVn-1Q@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"William Daffer" <whdaffer@wabcmail.com> wrote in message
news:fMGdnQQnt9FPUm7cRVn-qg@giganews.com...
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> writes:
In article <UrOdnXybNrL51W7cRVn-3g@giganews.com>, William Daffer
<whdaffer@wabcmail.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
[snip]
Who was joking. Am I the only one who took Bush seriously when he
said that it would be easier if this were a dictatorship?
As a matter of interest, when did he say this?
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator." .Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
Thanks!
Now, how about doing something that they are not doing. They are taking his
quote way out of context, it was a joke about the top leaders in the
democratic party.
GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there
were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's
OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
He certainly didn't mean it, like they want you to think. But, hey, if you
want to believe it...that is up to you. Just know that they are taking his
quote out of context.
I thought you didn't agree with "out of context."
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Jan 2005 03:57:24 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:55:32 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
In article <QtadnX0WAvl-TG7cRVn-1Q@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there
were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's
OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
He certainly didn't mean it, like they want you to think. But, hey, if you
want to believe it...that is up to you. Just know that they are taking his
quote out of context.
I thought you didn't agree with "out of context."
Not that it was taken out of context anyway.
--
"I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for president."
--George W. Bush, quoted in George Magazine, September, 2000
"God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith,
deep and unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by
God to save Germany."
--Hermann Goering, speaking of Hitler
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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23 Jan 2005 03:59:02 PM |
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In article <3d78v0tmscbii8r82iptjjrk2o2ittdp9k@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:55:32 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
In article <QtadnX0WAvl-TG7cRVn-1Q@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there
were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But
that's
OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
He certainly didn't mean it, like they want you to think. But, hey, if
you
want to believe it...that is up to you. Just know that they are taking
his
quote out of context.
I thought you didn't agree with "out of context."
Not that it was taken out of context anyway.
True, but who takes him seriously?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Jan 2005 07:10:49 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:59:02 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
In article <3d78v0tmscbii8r82iptjjrk2o2ittdp9k@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:55:32 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
In article <QtadnX0WAvl-TG7cRVn-1Q@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there
were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But
that's
OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
He certainly didn't mean it, like they want you to think. But, hey, if
you
want to believe it...that is up to you. Just know that they are taking
his
quote out of context.
I thought you didn't agree with "out of context."
Not that it was taken out of context anyway.
True, but who takes him seriously?
Osprey or Bush?
--
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator."
- G W Bush (Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 200
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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23 Jan 2005 09:52:33 PM |
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In article <4oi8v092401affvo9ue6a1du78esep10vl@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:59:02 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
In article <3d78v0tmscbii8r82iptjjrk2o2ittdp9k@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:55:32 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
In article <QtadnX0WAvl-TG7cRVn-1Q@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that
there
were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But
that's
OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just
so
long as I'm the dictator.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
He certainly didn't mean it, like they want you to think. But, hey, if
you
want to believe it...that is up to you. Just know that they are taking
his
quote out of context.
I thought you didn't agree with "out of context."
Not that it was taken out of context anyway.
True, but who takes him seriously?
Osprey or Bush?
Either. But I meant Osprey, there.
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