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"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" |
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18 Jul 2005 11:36:05 AM |
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Baby killers call Eric Rudolph a monster |
And so it goes.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8607591/
AP July 18, 2005 - BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - A nurse critically injured when
Eric Rudolph detonated a bomb outside an abortion clinic described him
Monday as "a monster" who should be put to death. "The full
responsibility for this would have been the death sentence," said
Emily Lyons.
She spoke at a sentencing hearing for Rudolph, who avoided a death
penalty under a plea agreement in which he confessed to deadly
bombings in Birmingham and Atlanta.
"When it was your turn to face death, you weren't so brave again,"
Lyons told the federal courtroom.
"You want to see a monster, all you have to do is look in the mirror,"
she said.
Stoic in his beliefs
Rudolph, an anti-abortion extremist who remained defiant when he
admitted setting the deadly explosions, has discussed his reasons only
in written statements. Defense attorney Judy Clarke said he would
speak at the sentencing hearing.
"It really doesn't matter what you say because I will go back to my
home and you will go back to jail. The clinics in town will still be
open and abortion will still be legal," Lyons said.
Rudolph, 38, pleaded guilty in April to setting off a
remote-controlled bomb that maimed Lyons and killed police officer
Robert "Sande" Sanderson outside the New Woman All Women clinic on the
morning of Jan. 29, 1998.
(snip)
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| User: "Johnny" |
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19 Jul 2005 09:38:23 AM |
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"1761 Dead" <zepp1761#2211finestplanet.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:23:28 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the
ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR
HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
And why should that bother them, since they also know that abortion is
not a crime and harms nobody? And where is the hypocrasy? The man is
a terrorist and a murderer that would gladly do those things again. He
feels no remorse for his murders nor his terrorism.
Why should Rudolph feel any remorse while the proud, arrogant,
disrespectful, unloving, unjust, wimps of Pro-Choice feel no remorse?
Why is Rudolph's act not in line with his free choice to commit the acts
he
committed?
Oooh, we've got the seriously murderous nuts of the Christian far
right scumming around over this, don't we?
Where did I say anything about Christianity in my post?
Now I remember "In the name of the Father".
The IRA and its agenda.
How similar is this to that situation?
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| User: "Du" |
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18 Jul 2005 04:39:13 PM |
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In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
Mark Sebree
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist ?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of the
Christian God ?
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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18 Jul 2005 05:40:59 PM |
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Du wrote:
In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
Mark Sebree
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist ?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of the
Christian God ?
Actually, people besides me are referring to him as a terrorist.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/index.html
"No matter how he tries to justify his actions and glorify himself, he
is a terrorist. He is a murderer," Felicia Sanderson, the officer's
widow, told reporters outside the courtroom in Birmingham.
He certainly does not deserve to be glorified, or held as a hero. Mrs.
Sanderson's description is accurate and to the point. He is a
terrorist, a murderer, and a bigot that thinks that he can terrorize
people into following his sick, twisted, and hateful agenda.
No wonder Johnny like him and thinks he is a hero.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Johnny" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:25:56 AM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121726459.847834.124550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Du wrote:
In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
Mark Sebree
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist ?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of the
Christian God ?
Actually, people besides me are referring to him as a terrorist.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/index.html
"No matter how he tries to justify his actions and glorify himself, he
is a terrorist. He is a murderer," Felicia Sanderson, the officer's
widow, told reporters outside the courtroom in Birmingham.
He certainly does not deserve to be glorified, or held as a hero. Mrs.
Sanderson's description is accurate and to the point. He is a
terrorist, a murderer, and a bigot that thinks that he can terrorize
people into following his sick, twisted, and hateful agenda.
No wonder Johnny like him and thinks he is a hero.
Only the people who are apathetic and ignorant and non-ivestigative enough
are calling Rudolph a terrorist.
Problem with that is that Eric Rudolph is NOT in the Taliban or a citizen of
another nation.
If you are going to call citizens of the USA terrorists that should tell you
that you are supporting the creation of such behaviors via your neglectful
and unjust attitudes and practices.
Why do you think Mohammed was as successful as he was?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:37:50 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121726459.847834.124550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Du wrote:
In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist ?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of the
Christian God ?
Actually, people besides me are referring to him as a terrorist.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/index.html
"No matter how he tries to justify his actions and glorify himself, he
is a terrorist. He is a murderer," Felicia Sanderson, the officer's
widow, told reporters outside the courtroom in Birmingham.
He certainly does not deserve to be glorified, or held as a hero. Mrs.
Sanderson's description is accurate and to the point. He is a
terrorist, a murderer, and a bigot that thinks that he can terrorize
people into following his sick, twisted, and hateful agenda.
No wonder Johnny like him and thinks he is a hero.
Only the people who are apathetic and ignorant and non-ivestigative enough
are calling Rudolph a terrorist.
Riiiight...like Emily Lloyd?
Problem with that is that Eric Rudolph is NOT in the Taliban or a citizen of
another nation.
No, he's a citizen of this country, so he's gotten the book thrown at him.
If you are going to call citizens of the USA terrorists that should tell you
that you are supporting the creation of such behaviors via your neglectful
and unjust attitudes and practices.
Of course, the insane wingnuts such as yourself are far outnumbered by the
sane who have already concluded that Rudolph was just another pathetic kook.
Why do you think Mohammed was as successful as he was?
He had a little more support than your hero Rudolph did, or will ever have.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Baby killers call Eric Rudolph a monster |
19 Jul 2005 05:40:41 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121726459.847834.124550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Du wrote:
In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
Mark Sebree
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist ?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of the
Christian God ?
Actually, people besides me are referring to him as a terrorist.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/index.html
"No matter how he tries to justify his actions and glorify himself, he
is a terrorist. He is a murderer," Felicia Sanderson, the officer's
widow, told reporters outside the courtroom in Birmingham.
He certainly does not deserve to be glorified, or held as a hero. Mrs.
Sanderson's description is accurate and to the point. He is a
terrorist, a murderer, and a bigot that thinks that he can terrorize
people into following his sick, twisted, and hateful agenda.
No wonder Johnny like him and thinks he is a hero.
Only the people who are apathetic and ignorant and non-ivestigative enough
are calling Rudolph a terrorist.
Wrong. People that are knowledgable, intelligent, and can read a
dictionary or the law are calling him a terrorist, because he fits the
description to a "T".
Terrorist:
"One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism."
Terrorism:
"the unlawful use or threat of violence esp. against the state or the
public as a politically motivated means of attack or coercion"
He used violence in an unlawful manner for politically motivated
coercion.
Problem with that is that Eric Rudolph is NOT in the Taliban or a citizen of
another nation.
That does not matter. American Christians can just as easily be
terrorists if they employ the methods of terrorists. The definition of
terroism depends on what the person does rather than who, if anyone, he
is affiliated with.
If you are going to call citizens of the USA terrorists that should tell you
that you are supporting the creation of such behaviors via your neglectful
and unjust attitudes and practices.
Not at all. There is nothing neglectful or unjust in my attitudes or
practices. I will call someone that uses terrorism to terrorize and
coerce others in to doing their bidding "terrorists", because that is
what they are. There is nothing in the definition of "terrorism" or
"terrorist" that excludes either Americans or Christians from being
one.
Calling a terrorist a terrorist just shows that I am honest. Something
that seems to escape your notice.
Why do you think Mohammed was as successful as he was?
Because he had a lot of followers. He was rich (married well). He
preached to the poor, who are very numerous in most societies, and the
class that he was born into. He was charismatic, which is true of most
leaders. While he did go to war, he did not commit acts of terrorism.
Nor did he encourage terrorism, to the best of my knowledge of the
Koran.
And this has nothing to do with the fact that Rudolph is a terrorist
that got what he deserved. Or are you claiming that Rudolph is a
Muslim, despite his claims that he is a Christian? Because I never
made nor implied such a thing myself.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Attila" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:41:49 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:25:56 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <ya7De.92$xn.1@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121726459.847834.124550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Du wrote:
In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
Mark Sebree
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist ?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of the
Christian God ?
Actually, people besides me are referring to him as a terrorist.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/index.html
"No matter how he tries to justify his actions and glorify himself, he
is a terrorist. He is a murderer," Felicia Sanderson, the officer's
widow, told reporters outside the courtroom in Birmingham.
He certainly does not deserve to be glorified, or held as a hero. Mrs.
Sanderson's description is accurate and to the point. He is a
terrorist, a murderer, and a bigot that thinks that he can terrorize
people into following his sick, twisted, and hateful agenda.
No wonder Johnny like him and thinks he is a hero.
Only the people who are apathetic and ignorant and non-ivestigative enough
are calling Rudolph a terrorist.
He was a terrorist. He planned his actions to frighten his target
population.
Problem with that is that Eric Rudolph is NOT in the Taliban or a citizen of
another nation.
Irrelevant.
If you are going to call citizens of the USA terrorists that should tell you
that you are supporting the creation of such behaviors via your neglectful
and unjust attitudes and practices
Wrong. An American can be a terrorist based upon their actions taken
in the US.
Why do you think Mohammed was as successful as he was?
He founded a successful religion.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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19 Jul 2005 09:30:56 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:25:56 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <ya7De.92$xn.1@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121726459.847834.124550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Du wrote:
In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to
do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
Mark Sebree
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist ?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of the
Christian God ?
Actually, people besides me are referring to him as a terrorist.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/index.html
"No matter how he tries to justify his actions and glorify himself, he
is a terrorist. He is a murderer," Felicia Sanderson, the officer's
widow, told reporters outside the courtroom in Birmingham.
He certainly does not deserve to be glorified, or held as a hero. Mrs.
Sanderson's description is accurate and to the point. He is a
terrorist, a murderer, and a bigot that thinks that he can terrorize
people into following his sick, twisted, and hateful agenda.
No wonder Johnny like him and thinks he is a hero.
Only the people who are apathetic and ignorant and non-ivestigative enough
are calling Rudolph a terrorist.
He was a terrorist. He planned his actions to frighten his target
population.
Problem with that is that Eric Rudolph is NOT in the Taliban or a citizen
of
another nation.
Irrelevant.
*****.
In the USA, the people of the USA are supposed to be treated equally
according to the Constitution and the law.
If you are going to call citizens of the USA terrorists that should tell
you
that you are supporting the creation of such behaviors via your neglectful
and unjust attitudes and practices
Wrong.
What nation are you a Citizen of?
An American can be a terrorist based upon their actions taken
in the US.
Is that why the US governmant had mud on its face after the Waco incident?
Why do you think Mohammed was as successful as he was?
He founded a successful religion.
And, you think that religion in the USA is not supposed to be successful?
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| User: "Attila" |
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19 Jul 2005 09:41:03 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:30:56 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<u78De.286$dz.91@bignews4.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:7l0qd11ep7vemnnqaqacvdpnk5vnms4tdj@4ax.com...
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:25:56 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <ya7De.92$xn.1@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121726459.847834.124550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Du wrote:
In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to
do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
Mark Sebree
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist ?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of the
Christian God ?
Actually, people besides me are referring to him as a terrorist.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/index.html
"No matter how he tries to justify his actions and glorify himself, he
is a terrorist. He is a murderer," Felicia Sanderson, the officer's
widow, told reporters outside the courtroom in Birmingham.
He certainly does not deserve to be glorified, or held as a hero. Mrs.
Sanderson's description is accurate and to the point. He is a
terrorist, a murderer, and a bigot that thinks that he can terrorize
people into following his sick, twisted, and hateful agenda.
No wonder Johnny like him and thinks he is a hero.
Only the people who are apathetic and ignorant and non-ivestigative enough
are calling Rudolph a terrorist.
He was a terrorist. He planned his actions to frighten his target
population.
Problem with that is that Eric Rudolph is NOT in the Taliban or a citizen
of
another nation.
Irrelevant.
*****.
In the USA, the people of the USA are supposed to be treated equally
according to the Constitution and the law.
He was. He could have had a trial but he accepted a plea agreement.
That is in accordance with the law.
His being an American did not matter.
If you are going to call citizens of the USA terrorists that should tell
you
that you are supporting the creation of such behaviors via your neglectful
and unjust attitudes and practices
Wrong.
What nation are you a Citizen of?
The US.
An American can be a terrorist based upon their actions taken
in the US.
Is that why the US governmant had mud on its face after the Waco incident?
That was not a terrorist incident.
Why do you think Mohammed was as successful as he was?
He founded a successful religion.
And, you think that religion in the USA is not supposed to be successful?
Religion is not 'supposed to be successful' anywhere.
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| User: "Sneekers" |
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19 Jul 2005 09:38:36 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:30:56 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:7l0qd11ep7vemnnqaqacvdpnk5vnms4tdj@4ax.com...
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:25:56 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <ya7De.92$xn.1@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121726459.847834.124550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Du wrote:
In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to
do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
Mark Sebree
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist ?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of the
Christian God ?
Actually, people besides me are referring to him as a terrorist.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/index.html
"No matter how he tries to justify his actions and glorify himself, he
is a terrorist. He is a murderer," Felicia Sanderson, the officer's
widow, told reporters outside the courtroom in Birmingham.
He certainly does not deserve to be glorified, or held as a hero. Mrs.
Sanderson's description is accurate and to the point. He is a
terrorist, a murderer, and a bigot that thinks that he can terrorize
people into following his sick, twisted, and hateful agenda.
No wonder Johnny like him and thinks he is a hero.
Only the people who are apathetic and ignorant and non-ivestigative enough
are calling Rudolph a terrorist.
He was a terrorist. He planned his actions to frighten his target
population.
Problem with that is that Eric Rudolph is NOT in the Taliban or a citizen
of
another nation.
Irrelevant.
*****.
In the USA, the people of the USA are supposed to be treated equally
according to the Constitution and the law.
True, but Eric Rudolph forfeited his freedom because he wanted
attention.
If you are going to call citizens of the USA terrorists that should tell
you
that you are supporting the creation of such behaviors via your neglectful
and unjust attitudes and practices
Wrong.
What nation are you a Citizen of?
USA. God bless it.
An American can be a terrorist based upon their actions taken
in the US.
Is that why the US governmant had mud on its face after the Waco incident?
Why do you think Mohammed was as successful as he was?
He founded a successful religion.
And, you think that religion in the USA is not supposed to be successful?
What makes our multi-cultural society special is that there is
something for everybody. WHy can we not leave it as just that?
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| User: "Johnny" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:16:18 AM |
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"Sneekers" <coadviolators@mail.com> wrote in message
news:jv3qd1pmlb33j5b4rcfdp0tcp48oejja8o@4ax.com...
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:30:56 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:7l0qd11ep7vemnnqaqacvdpnk5vnms4tdj@4ax.com...
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:25:56 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <ya7De.92$xn.1@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121726459.847834.124550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Du wrote:
In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to
do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
Mark Sebree
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist
?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of
the
Christian God ?
Actually, people besides me are referring to him as a terrorist.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/index.html
"No matter how he tries to justify his actions and glorify himself, he
is a terrorist. He is a murderer," Felicia Sanderson, the officer's
widow, told reporters outside the courtroom in Birmingham.
He certainly does not deserve to be glorified, or held as a hero.
Mrs.
Sanderson's description is accurate and to the point. He is a
terrorist, a murderer, and a bigot that thinks that he can terrorize
people into following his sick, twisted, and hateful agenda.
No wonder Johnny like him and thinks he is a hero.
Only the people who are apathetic and ignorant and non-ivestigative
enough
are calling Rudolph a terrorist.
He was a terrorist. He planned his actions to frighten his target
population.
Problem with that is that Eric Rudolph is NOT in the Taliban or a
citizen
of
another nation.
Irrelevant.
*****.
In the USA, the people of the USA are supposed to be treated equally
according to the Constitution and the law.
True, but Eric Rudolph forfeited his freedom because he wanted
attention.
If you are going to call citizens of the USA terrorists that should tell
you
that you are supporting the creation of such behaviors via your
neglectful
and unjust attitudes and practices
Wrong.
What nation are you a Citizen of?
USA. God bless it.
An American can be a terrorist based upon their actions taken
in the US.
Is that why the US governmant had mud on its face after the Waco incident?
Why do you think Mohammed was as successful as he was?
He founded a successful religion.
And, you think that religion in the USA is not supposed to be successful?
What makes our multi-cultural society special is that there is
something for everybody. WHy can we not leave it as just that?
It is NOT like that now.
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| User: "Sneekers" |
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19 Jul 2005 12:05:47 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:16:18 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Sneekers" <coadviolators@mail.com> wrote in message
news:jv3qd1pmlb33j5b4rcfdp0tcp48oejja8o@4ax.com...
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:30:56 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:25:56 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <ya7De.92$xn.1@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Du wrote:
In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to
do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
Mark Sebree
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist
?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of
the
Christian God ?
Actually, people besides me are referring to him as a terrorist.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/18/rudolph.sentencing/index.html
"No matter how he tries to justify his actions and glorify himself, he
is a terrorist. He is a murderer," Felicia Sanderson, the officer's
widow, told reporters outside the courtroom in Birmingham.
He certainly does not deserve to be glorified, or held as a hero.
Mrs.
Sanderson's description is accurate and to the point. He is a
terrorist, a murderer, and a bigot that thinks that he can terrorize
people into following his sick, twisted, and hateful agenda.
No wonder Johnny like him and thinks he is a hero.
Only the people who are apathetic and ignorant and non-ivestigative
enough
are calling Rudolph a terrorist.
He was a terrorist. He planned his actions to frighten his target
population.
Problem with that is that Eric Rudolph is NOT in the Taliban or a
citizen
of
another nation.
Irrelevant.
*****.
In the USA, the people of the USA are supposed to be treated equally
according to the Constitution and the law.
True, but Eric Rudolph forfeited his freedom because he wanted
attention.
If you are going to call citizens of the USA terrorists that should tell
you
that you are supporting the creation of such behaviors via your
neglectful
and unjust attitudes and practices
Wrong.
What nation are you a Citizen of?
USA. God bless it.
An American can be a terrorist based upon their actions taken
in the US.
Is that why the US governmant had mud on its face after the Waco incident?
Why do you think Mohammed was as successful as he was?
He founded a successful religion.
And, you think that religion in the USA is not supposed to be successful?
What makes our multi-cultural society special is that there is
something for everybody. WHy can we not leave it as just that?
It is NOT like that now.
Because of stupid people.
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19 Jul 2005 01:15:45 AM |
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you@somehost.somedomain (Du) wrote in news:5kVCe.6579$Zu1.5656@trnddc04:
In article <1121717266.562333.67700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
sebree@infionline.net says...
The man plead guilty for the crimes that he was accused of. What's
more, he is proud of his crimes. What did you expect the courts to do,
let this confessed murderer go free?
Mark Sebree
I am wondering why nobody is referring to Eric Rudalph as a terrorist ?
I guess you can't be called a terrorist if you do it in the name of the
Christian God ?
Um, the person whom you just quoted referred to him as a terrorist:
And why should that bother them, since they also know that abortion is
not a crime and harms nobody? And where is the hypocrasy? The man is
a terrorist and a murderer that would gladly do those things again. He
feels no remorse for his murders nor his terrorism. He is the lowest
form of human being, and deserves to be in jail for his crimes as a
minimum.
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19 Jul 2005 04:43:30 AM |
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Mark Sebree wrote:
Johnny wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
And why should that bother them, since they also know that abortion is
not a crime and harms nobody?
Harms nobody? I can think of one person it harms.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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19 Jul 2005 11:09:22 AM |
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Daniel wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Johnny wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
And why should that bother them, since they also know that abortion is
not a crime and harms nobody?
Harms nobody? I can think of one person it harms.
I doubt it. An embryo/fetus is not a person. And if it is, then it
has no right to use the woman's body without her ongoing consent, and
she is free to use whatever means necessary to end that use
immediately.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Johnny" |
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19 Jul 2005 11:15:49 AM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Daniel wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Johnny wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and
the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR
HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
And why should that bother them, since they also know that abortion is
not a crime and harms nobody?
Harms nobody? I can think of one person it harms.
I doubt it. An embryo/fetus is not a person.
What a lie.
And if it is, then it
has no right to use the woman's body without her ongoing consent,
Which she gave via consensual sexual reproductive behavior, when she allowed
her body to be used by herself and/or some man who impregnated her.
If she did not give her consent, as in rape cases, then she has a right to
an abortion.
and
she is free to use whatever means necessary to end that use
immediately.
Not in all cases in all societies.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:56:59 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Daniel wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Johnny wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and
the ABA and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN
THEIR HEARTS they are guilty of abortion.
And why should that bother them, since they also know that abortion is
not a crime and harms nobody?
Harms nobody? I can think of one person it harms.
I doubt it. An embryo/fetus is not a person.
What a lie.
If your fantasy is true, why doesn't your driver's license (assuming you're
still allowed to drive) have your conception date on it?
And if it is, then it has no right to use the woman's body without her
ongoing consent,
Which she gave via consensual sexual reproductive behavior, when she allowed
her body to be used by herself and/or some man who impregnated her.
She consented to sex. She didn't necessarily consent to pregnancy. That's
reailty for you.
If she did not give her consent, as in rape cases, then she has a right to
an abortion.
If she didn't consent to get pregnant, she can choose to end it within the
first three months nationwide, and six months in some states. Ever notice
that all but .01% of abortions in this country are done in those six months,
by the count of the CDC? There's a reason for that, so logical you'll never
get within the same universe as the right answer.
and she is free to use whatever means necessary to end that use
immediately.
Not in all cases in all societies.
We're talking about this country, Wimpy. Please try and pay attention at
least once a year, okay?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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19 Jul 2005 12:33:58 PM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121789362.307060.157560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Daniel wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Johnny wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and
the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR
HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
And why should that bother them, since they also know that abortion is
not a crime and harms nobody?
Harms nobody? I can think of one person it harms.
I doubt it. An embryo/fetus is not a person.
What a lie.
And if it is, then it
has no right to use the woman's body without her ongoing consent,
Which she gave via consensual sexual reproductive behavior, when she allowed
You gave your consent to give me all of your money when you posted to
this newsgroup.
Pay up, hypocrite.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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19 Jul 2005 12:16:51 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121789362.307060.157560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Daniel wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Johnny wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and
the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR
HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
And why should that bother them, since they also know that abortion is
not a crime and harms nobody?
Harms nobody? I can think of one person it harms.
I doubt it. An embryo/fetus is not a person.
What a lie.
My statement is a fact.
And if it is, then it
has no right to use the woman's body without her ongoing consent,
Which she gave via consensual sexual reproductive behavior,
Not so. She gave consent to the man to have sex with her. She never
gave consent to the embryo to use her body. And she can withdraw
consent for either of them at any time.
when she allowed
her body to be used by herself and/or some man who impregnated her.
Not so. She did not consent to becoming pregnant, especially if
contraceptions were being used. And she can withdraw consent at any
time.
If she did not give her consent, as in rape cases, then she has a right to
an abortion.
Also she did not give consent to the embryo/fetus to use her body in
unwanted pregnancies, so she has the right to an abortion there as
well.
and
she is free to use whatever means necessary to end that use
immediately.
Not in all cases in all societies.
We are talking now in the USA. We are not talking about your fantasy
realm, nor other countries, nor other times.
Women in the USA have the right to defend themselves from any unwanted
intrusion into their persons. If a man, including her husband, tries
to have sex with her without her consent, she can defend herself by
physical force against those assaults, and charge him with sexual
assault as well. If she has an unwanted growth or medical condition
that can be treated medically or surgically, she can get the necessary
procedures done.
The woman controls her body, not you. And she does not have to remain
pregnant if she does not want to be pregnant.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Attila" |
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19 Jul 2005 01:13:03 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:15:49 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<QF9De.2472$Wt3.809@bignews3.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121789362.307060.157560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Daniel wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Johnny wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and
the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR
HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
And why should that bother them, since they also know that abortion is
not a crime and harms nobody?
Harms nobody? I can think of one person it harms.
I doubt it. An embryo/fetus is not a person.
What a lie.
No, it is true.
And if it is, then it
has no right to use the woman's body without her ongoing consent,
Which she gave via consensual sexual reproductive behavior, when she allowed
her body to be used by herself and/or some man who impregnated her.
Exactly where is that written out? What law enforces it?
If she did not give her consent, as in rape cases, then she has a right to
an abortion.
Exactly where is that exception noted? Are there any more? What is
the authority for this exception?
and
she is free to use whatever means necessary to end that use
immediately.
Not in all cases in all societies.
Very little is true in all cases in all societies.
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| User: "Sneekers" |
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19 Jul 2005 12:01:34 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:15:49 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1121789362.307060.157560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Daniel wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Johnny wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and
the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR
HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
And why should that bother them, since they also know that abortion is
not a crime and harms nobody?
Harms nobody? I can think of one person it harms.
I doubt it. An embryo/fetus is not a person.
What a lie.
It is not a lie.
And if it is, then it
has no right to use the woman's body without her ongoing consent,
Which she gave via consensual sexual reproductive behavior,
If that were so, osprey, then everywoman incapable of conceiving who
wants babies would have them.
when she allowed
her body to be used by herself and/or some man who impregnated her.
Liar, who ejaculated into her?
If she did not give her consent, as in rape cases, then she has a right to
an abortion.
She has a right to an abortion on demand for any reason.
and
she is free to use whatever means necessary to end that use
immediately.
Not in all cases in all societies.
Well, of course the individual means whereever abortion is legal for
those reasons.
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| User: "Attila" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:02:04 AM |
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On 19 Jul 2005 02:43:30 -0700, "Daniel" <sabot120mm@hotmail.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<1121766210.810779.69270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Johnny wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
And why should that bother them, since they also know that abortion is
not a crime and harms nobody?
Harms nobody? I can think of one person it harms.
Nope. A normal abortion harms no one. It simply ends a pregnancy.
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| User: "Sneekers" |
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19 Jul 2005 05:52:51 AM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:25:42 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So, in your deluded mind, you affirm what Rudolph did was justice, eh?
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| User: "Johnny" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:28:43 AM |
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"Sneekers" <coadviolators@mail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:25:42 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the
ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So, in your deluded mind, you affirm what Rudolph did was justice, eh?
I see it as no worse, and better than what Pro-Choice is doing.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:38:57 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Sneekers" <coadviolators@mail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:25:42 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So, in your deluded mind, you affirm what Rudolph did was justice, eh?
I see it as no worse, and better than what Pro-Choice is doing.
What you see can safely be discounted.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Attila" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:48:24 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:28:43 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<9d7De.97$xn.26@bignews6.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Sneekers" <coadviolators@mail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:25:42 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the
ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So, in your deluded mind, you affirm what Rudolph did was justice, eh?
I see it as no worse, and better than what Pro-Choice is doing.
Have you found anyone yet who really cares how you see anything?
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| User: "Johnny" |
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19 Jul 2005 09:50:55 AM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:28:43 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<9d7De.97$xn.26@bignews6.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Sneekers" <coadviolators@mail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:25:42 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the
ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR
HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So, in your deluded mind, you affirm what Rudolph did was justice, eh?
I see it as no worse, and better than what Pro-Choice is doing.
Have you found anyone yet who really cares how you see anything?
Yes.
Which I assume is not the case for you.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:58:10 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:28:43 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<9d7De.97$xn.26@bignews6.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Sneekers" <coadviolators@mail.com> wrote in message
news:gqmpd15se6vgbihkpehqno5h4d534s8vm3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:25:42 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the
ABA and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR
HEARTS they are guilty of abortion.
So, in your deluded mind, you affirm what Rudolph did was justice, eh?
I see it as no worse, and better than what Pro-Choice is doing.
Have you found anyone yet who really cares how you see anything?
Yes. Which I assume is not the case for you.
Too bad the one guy who cared won't be seeing another free day...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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19 Jul 2005 10:10:44 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:50:55 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<eq8De.293$dz.76@bignews4.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:28:43 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<9d7De.97$xn.26@bignews6.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Sneekers" <coadviolators@mail.com> wrote in message
news:gqmpd15se6vgbihkpehqno5h4d534s8vm3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:25:42 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the
ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR
HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So, in your deluded mind, you affirm what Rudolph did was justice, eh?
I see it as no worse, and better than what Pro-Choice is doing.
Have you found anyone yet who really cares how you see anything?
Yes.
That would amaze me.
Which I assume is not the case for you.
But I am not looking, nor do I care.
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| User: "Sneekers" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:41:20 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:28:43 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Sneekers" <coadviolators@mail.com> wrote in message
news:gqmpd15se6vgbihkpehqno5h4d534s8vm3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:25:42 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the
ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So, in your deluded mind, you affirm what Rudolph did was justice, eh?
I see it as no worse, and better than what Pro-Choice is doing.
People who work in clinic to preserve the well-being and lives of
women and girls have done nothing to warrant Rudolph's terror.
Pity he didn't get the death penatly, that miserable, cowardly *****.
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