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"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" |
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18 Jul 2005 11:36:05 AM |
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Baby killers call Eric Rudolph a monster |
And so it goes.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8607591/
AP July 18, 2005 - BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - A nurse critically injured when
Eric Rudolph detonated a bomb outside an abortion clinic described him
Monday as "a monster" who should be put to death. "The full
responsibility for this would have been the death sentence," said
Emily Lyons.
She spoke at a sentencing hearing for Rudolph, who avoided a death
penalty under a plea agreement in which he confessed to deadly
bombings in Birmingham and Atlanta.
"When it was your turn to face death, you weren't so brave again,"
Lyons told the federal courtroom.
"You want to see a monster, all you have to do is look in the mirror,"
she said.
Stoic in his beliefs
Rudolph, an anti-abortion extremist who remained defiant when he
admitted setting the deadly explosions, has discussed his reasons only
in written statements. Defense attorney Judy Clarke said he would
speak at the sentencing hearing.
"It really doesn't matter what you say because I will go back to my
home and you will go back to jail. The clinics in town will still be
open and abortion will still be legal," Lyons said.
Rudolph, 38, pleaded guilty in April to setting off a
remote-controlled bomb that maimed Lyons and killed police officer
Robert "Sande" Sanderson outside the New Woman All Women clinic on the
morning of Jan. 29, 1998.
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| User: "Jeff" |
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18 Jul 2005 01:05:18 PM |
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The clinics in town will still be
open and abortion will still be legal," Lyons said.
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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18 Jul 2005 02:27:18 PM |
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"Jeff" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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The clinics in town will still be
open and abortion will still be legal," Lyons said.
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
Really?
Can you dispense with the sarcasm?
It makes you look like you are Pro-Choice.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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18 Jul 2005 11:30:37 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Jeff" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:ybSCe.196186$6g3.180563@tornado.texas.rr.com...
The clinics in town will still be
open and abortion will still be legal," Lyons said.
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
Really? Can you dispense with the sarcasm?
Really, and it's not sarcasm any more than you're sane. Rudolph is going to
be an owned ***** in prison for the rest of his life, and it'll be no secret
that the big, brave anti-abortion terrorist chickened out and took a plea
bargain to avoid getting what he dealt in Atlanta and Birmingham.
It makes you look like you are Pro-Choice.
You do a good job of making yourself look like Rudolph's your hero.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Bo Raxo" |
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19 Jul 2005 03:38:46 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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Really, and it's not sarcasm any more than you're sane. Rudolph is going
to
be an owned ***** in prison for the rest of his life, and it'll be no
secret
that the big, brave anti-abortion terrorist chickened out and took a plea
bargain to avoid getting what he dealt in Atlanta and Birmingham.
Most likely he'll be sent to the supermax in Florence, Colorado, where Ted
Kaczynski among others resides. He'll be pretty well protected from
violence from other prisoners, which will be the only good thing about the
life sentence he'll serve.
Which seems right to me. All he deserves is plenty of time to think about
where his actions put him, with no hope of ever seeing the outside of that
prison.
Bo Raxo
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:23:30 PM |
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"Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us@thepentagon.removethis.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkoe8zju36.fsf@eris.io.com...
Really, and it's not sarcasm any more than you're sane. Rudolph is going to
be an owned ***** in prison for the rest of his life, and it'll be no secret
that the big, brave anti-abortion terrorist chickened out and took a plea
bargain to avoid getting what he dealt in Atlanta and Birmingham.
Most likely he'll be sent to the supermax in Florence, Colorado, where Ted
Kaczynski among others resides. He'll be pretty well protected from
violence from other prisoners, which will be the only good thing about the
life sentence he'll serve.
He's Colorado-bound, all right. It'd help if they'd open a window or two in
his cell during the winter.
Which seems right to me. All he deserves is plenty of time to think about
where his actions put him, with no hope of ever seeing the outside of that
prison.
The owner of one of the clinics he bombed said a few things along the same
lines to him at the sentencing. All I can say is, good riddance to bad
rubbish.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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19 Jul 2005 12:42:07 AM |
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The Chief Instigator wrote:
Really, and it's not sarcasm any more than you're sane. Rudolph is going to
be an owned ***** in prison for the rest of his life, and it'll be no secret
that the big, brave anti-abortion terrorist chickened out and took a plea
bargain to avoid getting what he dealt in Atlanta and Birmingham.
Chickened out? There is nothing wrong with accepting a plea agreement.
And besides, rudolph killed in order to stop killing. You ever wonder
what happens to the aborted kids. The bodies are sold to the drug
companies.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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19 Jul 2005 01:21:52 AM |
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> writes:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
Really, and it's not sarcasm any more than you're sane. Rudolph is going to
be an owned ***** in prison for the rest of his life, and it'll be no secret
that the big, brave anti-abortion terrorist chickened out and took a plea
bargain to avoid getting what he dealt in Atlanta and Birmingham.
Chickened out? There is nothing wrong with accepting a plea agreement.
And besides, rudolph killed in order to stop killing. You ever wonder
what happens to the aborted kids. The bodies are sold to the drug
companies.
Of course, you do have some "proof" from some credible sources, right?
(Wingnut Daily doesn't pass the smell test.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
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| User: "Beelzebub" |
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19 Jul 2005 01:08:48 AM |
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1121751727.583406.257450@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
Really, and it's not sarcasm any more than you're sane. Rudolph is
going to be an owned ***** in prison for the rest of his life, and
it'll be no secret that the big, brave anti-abortion terrorist
chickened out and took a plea bargain to avoid getting what he dealt
in Atlanta and Birmingham.
Chickened out? There is nothing wrong with accepting a plea
agreement. And besides, rudolph killed in order to stop killing. You
ever wonder what happens to the aborted kids. The bodies are sold to
the drug companies.
I see, so that justifies murder, does it?
That's just insane.
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| User: "Messalina" |
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19 Jul 2005 12:43:41 PM |
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You ever wonder
what happens to the aborted kids. The bodies are sold to the drug
companies.
That explains a lot about you.
Mez
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| User: "Hunter" |
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20 Jul 2005 03:29:28 PM |
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
Really, and it's not sarcasm any more than you're sane. Rudolph is going to
be an owned ***** in prison for the rest of his life, and it'll be no secret
that the big, brave anti-abortion terrorist chickened out and took a plea
bargain to avoid getting what he dealt in Atlanta and Birmingham.
Chickened out? There is nothing wrong with accepting a plea agreement.
And besides, rudolph killed in order to stop killing. You ever wonder
what happens to the aborted kids. The bodies are sold to the drug
companies.
---
Killed to stop killing, like not only killing those innocent people
around the clinic but setting off a second device to kill first
responders including a police officer.
---->Hunter
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| User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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25 Jul 2005 11:00:58 AM |
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Hunter wrote:
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
Really, and it's not sarcasm any more than you're sane. Rudolph is going to
be an owned ***** in prison for the rest of his life, and it'll be no secret
that the big, brave anti-abortion terrorist chickened out and took a plea
bargain to avoid getting what he dealt in Atlanta and Birmingham.
Chickened out? There is nothing wrong with accepting a plea agreement.
And besides, rudolph killed in order to stop killing. You ever wonder
what happens to the aborted kids. The bodies are sold to the drug
companies.
---
Killed to stop killing, like not only killing those innocent people
around the clinic but setting off a second device to kill first
responders including a police officer.
And what about the thousands of innocent iraqis your god bush has
murdered in iraq in his glorious war on terror?
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| User: "Aunt Judy likes it in the rear" |
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25 Jul 2005 10:52:42 PM |
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
Hunter wrote:
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
Really, and it's not sarcasm any more than you're sane. Rudolph is going to
be an owned ***** in prison for the rest of his life, and it'll be no secret
that the big, brave anti-abortion terrorist chickened out and took a plea
bargain to avoid getting what he dealt in Atlanta and Birmingham.
Chickened out? There is nothing wrong with accepting a plea agreement.
And besides, rudolph killed in order to stop killing. You ever wonder
what happens to the aborted kids. The bodies are sold to the drug
companies.
---
Killed to stop killing, like not only killing those innocent people
around the clinic but setting off a second device to kill first
responders including a police officer.
And what about the thousands of innocent iraqis your god bush has
murdered in iraq in his glorious war on terror?
He has to do *something*, since you haven't switched from driving your
out-of-tune beater to buying one of those 8 foot "smart cars" you were
bellyaching about, *****.
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| User: "Aunt Judy likes it in the rear" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:50:24 AM |
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
Really, and it's not sarcasm any more than you're sane. Rudolph is going to
be an owned ***** in prison for the rest of his life, and it'll be no secret
that the big, brave anti-abortion terrorist chickened out and took a plea
bargain to avoid getting what he dealt in Atlanta and Birmingham.
Chickened out? There is nothing wrong with accepting a plea agreement.
And besides, rudolph killed in order to stop killing. You ever wonder
what happens to the aborted kids. The bodies are sold to the drug
companies.
Is that what you figured out from watching "Coma?"
You do know that was an exercise video, don't you, simpleton?
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| User: "Sneekers" |
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19 Jul 2005 05:12:06 AM |
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On 18 Jul 2005 22:42:07 -0700, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Chief Instigator wrote:
Really, and it's not sarcasm any more than you're sane. Rudolph is going to
be an owned ***** in prison for the rest of his life, and it'll be no secret
that the big, brave anti-abortion terrorist chickened out and took a plea
bargain to avoid getting what he dealt in Atlanta and Birmingham.
Chickened out? There is nothing wrong with accepting a plea agreement.
No, but in Rudolph's case--he pussied out.
And besides, rudolph killed in order to stop killing.
Rudolph wasn't ordered to kill; he killed because he wanted to kill,
You ever wonder what happens to the aborted kids. The bodies are sold to the drug companies.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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18 Jul 2005 03:08:33 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Jeff" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:ybSCe.196186$6g3.180563@tornado.texas.rr.com...
The clinics in town will still be
open and abortion will still be legal," Lyons said.
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
Really?
Yes.
Can you dispense with the sarcasm?
What sarcasm?
It makes you look like you are Pro-Choice.
Which is a good thing.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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18 Jul 2005 05:21:07 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:27:18 -0400,
Iggnorant Bigot, John Wentzky <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Jeff wrote:
"The clinics in town will still be open and abortion
will still be legal," Lyons said."
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
Very, VERY proud!!!
And Eric Rudolph -- who is *truly* a monster -- no better than
the 9/11 terrorists... will ROT in prison for the rest of his life.
And hopefully, huge hairy inmates with 30" biceps will have their
way with him every single night for the next 30+ years -- after
which he can burn in hell for all eternity, bing surned on a spit
over a hot dung fire by a cordon of demons.
Really?
Can you dispense with the sarcasm?
It makes you look like you are Pro-Choice.
SENSIBLE and INTELIIGENT people **are** Pro-Choice.
ANTI-Choice is for ignorant dolts and hateful bigots.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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18 Jul 2005 05:24:48 PM |
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Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
whined and lied again:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:27:18 -0400,
Truthful Poster, John Wentzky <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Jeff wrote:
"The clinics in town will still be open and abortion
will still be legal," Lyons said."
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
Very, VERY proud!!!
Why does that does not surprise me that an anti rights, pathetic
advocate of baby killing like take pride in the DEATH of human beings?
You are utterly PATHETIC.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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18 Jul 2005 10:07:01 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:24:48 GMT,
Cowardly Loser, "Sir Marksman" lied:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Ignorant Bigot, John Wentzky <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Jeff wrote:
"The clinics in town will still be open and abortion
will still be legal," Lyons said."
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
Very, VERY proud!!!
Why does that does not surprise me that an anti rights...
[[[ READERS: Want a good laugh? This moron is SO confused,
he can't tell the sensible and DEFENDERS of individual freedoms
and personal rights apart from utterly mindless, hateful, and
infantile little arrested-development bigots, like himself, who
idiotically seek to DEPRIVE millions of people of their freedoms.
What a tool. ]]]
...pathetic...
(LOL!! The only "pathetic" person in here is the one who
supports a loathsome agenda that seeks to FORCE full gestation
upon millions of girls and women against their will. And that's
Skidmark. He and his ilk are unconscionable busybodies, control-
freaks, and are SO profoundly socially-retarded that they have no
qualms at DESTROYING the well-being, pre-pregnancy range of
future opportunities of millions of people -- for NO good reason.
A very real, 9-month-long form of *rape*! The are utterly without
excuse. Losers with a capital "L.")
...advocate of baby killing...
OFF-topic LIE. This is a thread dealing with a loathsome monster
who *murdered* real people for absolutely NO sane reason. And
deserves to ROT forever for it. Abortion has NOTHING to do with
babies, since ALL babies have been BORN.
... like take pride in the DEATH of human beings?
Another LIE. NO "human being" (i.e, already-born PERSON)
has EVER died in the course of the administration of the remedy
of abortion, with the exception of an infinitesimal-small number of
women who are unlucky in surgery -- a risk that accompanies almost
ALL forms of surgery.
And Eric Rudolph -- who is *truly* a monster -- no better than
the 9/11 terrorists... will ROT in prison for the rest of his life.
And hopefully, huge hairy inmates with 30" biceps will have their
way with him every single night for the next 30+ years -- after
which he can burn in hell for all eternity, being turned on a spit
over a hot dung fire by a cordon of demons.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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18 Jul 2005 11:08:43 PM |
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Immature & Hateful little Bigot, Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
whined and lied again:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:27:18 -0400,
Truthful Poster, John Wentzky <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
Jeff wrote:
"The clinics in town will still be open and abortion
will still be legal," Lyons said."
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
Very, VERY proud!!!
Why does that does not surprise me that an anti rights, pathetic
advocate of baby killing like take pride in the DEATH of human beings?
You are utterly PATHETIC.
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| User: "BOB" |
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18 Jul 2005 01:15:47 PM |
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"Jeff" <none@none.com> wrote in news:ybSCe.196186$6g3.180563
@tornado.texas.rr.com:
The clinics in town will still be
open and abortion will still be legal," Lyons said.
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
Yep, except for the Taliban wannabees of course.
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| User: "Beelzebub" |
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19 Jul 2005 01:03:25 AM |
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"Jeff" <none@none.com> wrote in news:ybSCe.196186$6g3.180563
@tornado.texas.rr.com:
The clinics in town will still be
open and abortion will still be legal," Lyons said.
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
While killing a police officer is?
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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18 Jul 2005 01:25:45 PM |
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Jeff wrote:
The clinics in town will still be
open and abortion will still be legal," Lyons said.
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
Of course. They are resisting the terrorists and harassers that are
targeting them, and they are still helping the women that need their
services.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Sneekers" |
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18 Jul 2005 05:27:37 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:05:18 GMT, "Jeff" <none@none.com> wrote:
The clinics in town will still be
open and abortion will still be legal," Lyons said.
Something to be proud of, I'm sure.
It's better than killing doctors because doctors are helping people
heal.
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19 Jul 2005 12:29:25 PM |
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AP July 18, 2005 - BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - A nurse critically injured when
Eric Rudolph detonated a bomb outside an abortion clinic described him
Monday as "a monster" who should be put to death. "The full
responsibility for this would have been the death sentence," said
Emily Lyons.
-snip-
Its really nice to see you branching out. Of course, your opinions are
still useless, but hey "baby steps."
Mez
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| User: "Johnny" |
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18 Jul 2005 02:25:42 PM |
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So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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18 Jul 2005 11:31:23 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So we see Anderson, SC's certified lunatic John Wentzky whining because
justice was served.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Johnny" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:27:38 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkk6jnju1w.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the
ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So we see Anderson, SC's certified lunatic John Wentzky whining because
justice was served.
Justice is not served by hypocrites.
Figure out who is qualified to deliver justice and who isn't.
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19 Jul 2005 06:51:47 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkk6jnju1w.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So we see Anderson, SC's certified lunatic John Wentzky whining because
justice was served.
Justice is not served by hypocrites.
It'll never be served by YOU, wingnut.
Figure out who is qualified to deliver justice and who isn't.
You aren't, and the courts are. Deal with it.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:58:17 AM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the
ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So we see Anderson, SC's certified lunatic John Wentzky whining because
justice was served.
Justice is not served by hypocrites.
Hypocrites like you who whine when murderers and terrorists are sent
to prison?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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18 Jul 2005 11:51:44 PM |
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The Chief Instigator wrote:
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
So we see the Feminazis and their slutdog men in the government and the ABA
and the courts playing the hypocrite again while they KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS
they are guilty of abortion.
So we see Anderson, SC's certified lunatic John Wentzky whining because
justice was served.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
Actually, he is whining because another one of his heros got what he
deserves.
Mark Sebree
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