Science > Abortion > Babykillers against the death penalty, yet murder helpless new borns
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| User: "LeftRight" |
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05 Dec 2004 04:52:34 PM |
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I do have one response when it comes to enforcement by threat: free-will
or nothing. The politic of homocide is, on the face of it without going into
any idiology or religion, has to do with this question: are they coming for
me and mine? The basis of a successful plural/secular society is equal
protection under the law. There is no other society possible when excluding
fascist genicide. The issue of abortion hinges on the question 'is it a
human person', the 'person' component of the question is the primeval for
the differential for the decision. But the question ceases to be in the
issue of war and self-defense. War and self-defense is not frequently a
free-will issue as the will of the individual becomes forcedly seconded in
many historical instances. Subtracting that from both conditions (war and
peace), what remains is the free-will of the individual in the condition of
peace. I do not equate peace with war, and I must presume that I may know
the difference between personhood and pre-personhood. And I know, without
the sanctification of free-will, there can be no peace in a progressive
plural/secular society.
"Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote in message
news:mKJsd.833$JB.411@lakeread01...
Why are the pro-abortion babykillers against the death penalty, yet have no
qualms murdering helpless children in the womb?
..>>>>>>>>>>
Because the consciousness of their mortality bothers them and the
consciousnes of mortality does not exist for the preborn.
--
Anti-communism is a prejudice like
any other; the evil acts of some taint all.
Slander is an act of the guilty and
lies of the cowardly. Humans are as reeds
in the wind; they are forcable
in any direction.
http://groups.msn.com/taxationjustice
http://www.columbiajournal.ca/04-04/index.html
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=15344
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CRG204A.html
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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05 Dec 2004 03:14:55 PM |
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"Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote in message
news:mKJsd.833$JB.411@lakeread01...
Why are the pro-abortion babykillers against the death penalty, yet have no
qualms murdering helpless children in the womb?
Why did "pro-life" Gov. Bush put so many to death?
A better question: Why hasn't web tv nutter "Rev." Spitz figured out how to
disable his html?
What a bunch of babykilling hypocrites are the pro-abortion fanatics. Let
the murderers go free but murder the innocent.
<chuckle> You're still as nutty as they come, "Rev."
Well Spitzy, you rabid 'lil Osama wannabe, chew on this:
You and your small coterie of insane flakes supported and, most likely,
funded a murderer. Remember Paul Hill (currently roasting in Hell)? That
makes you an accessory to murder. That makes those few wingnuts that support
you accessories to an accessory.
Ouch!
LC~ Laughing at another Spitzy hit and run troll.
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander
eachother constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any
sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the
head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of
those it wins over to its side."~ Celsus On the True Doctrine
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| User: "GuitarMan" |
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07 Dec 2004 05:24:51 AM |
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"Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote in message
news:mKJsd.833$JB.411@lakeread01...
Why are the pro-death penalty people against Pro-choice, yet have no qualms
murdering? What a bunch of hypocrites are the pro-death penalty fanatics.
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| User: "Michael Satterwhite" |
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08 Dec 2004 02:19:06 PM |
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GuitarMan wrote:
"Rev. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote in message
news:mKJsd.833$JB.411@lakeread01...
Why are the pro-death penalty people against Pro-choice, yet have no
qualms murdering? What a bunch of hypocrites are the pro-death penalty
fanatics.
Pro-choice? Anti-choice? Depends entirely on the desired choice.
(1) On the news today, there was a man who *CHOSE* to save a 13 year even
though it cost him his life. Am I pro-choice. You bet.
(2) Hitler *CHOSE* to exterminate millions of Jews. Am I against a choice
that leads to the extermination of millions of innocent people. Not being a
monster, of course I am.
(3) Not that long ago, the news covered a woman who chose to kill her 5 year
old son. Am I anti-choice here. You bet.
(4) Last week I read about a man who *CHOSE* to kill his 6 month old
daughter. Do I think he should have that choice? Absolutely not.
Abortion? See #2 above.
Oh ... and for those who like to abuse language:
From Webster:
"Child" - 1 a : an unborn or recently born *PERSON* (emphasis mine)
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| User: "Attila" |
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05 Dec 2004 03:43:50 PM |
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On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:50:46 -0500, "Rev. Donald Spitz"
<Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<mKJsd.833$JB.411@lakeread01> wrote:
Why are the pro-abortion
I have seen no one here who is pro-abortion.
babykillers
No babies are killed in an abortion.
against the death penalty,
I am pro-choice and I have no problem with the death penalty other
than it isn't used often enough and it takes too long.
yet have no qualms murdering helpless children in the womb?
No such creatures exist.
What a bunch of babykilling
If you know someone who is killing babies notify the police. Just go
to the door and yell - I am sure they are watching you.
hypocrites are the pro-abortion fanatics.
I wouldn't know - I have seen no pro-abortion people here.
Let the murderers go free but murder the innocent.
Murder, being illegal, must be reported to the police at once.
Spitz spits again, and again missed the mark.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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07 Dec 2004 08:48:24 PM |
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Attila <Attila> wrote:
I am pro-choice and I have no problem with the death penalty other
than it isn't used often enough and it takes too long.
I'm sure that both problems could be solved by dispensing with all
that time-wasting and expensive business involving trials and juries.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Attila" |
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08 Dec 2004 05:31:14 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 02:48:24 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <cp5q1o$7jn$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
I am pro-choice and I have no problem with the death penalty other
than it isn't used often enough and it takes too long.
I'm sure that both problems could be solved by dispensing with all
that time-wasting and expensive business involving trials and juries.
No, but the process could be streamlined. SCOUS has started by
limiting death row appeals.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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08 Dec 2004 11:36:15 PM |
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Attila <Attila> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
Attila <Attila> wrote:
I am pro-choice and I have no problem with the death penalty other
than it isn't used often enough and it takes too long.
I'm sure that both problems could be solved by dispensing with all
that time-wasting and expensive business involving trials and juries.
No, but the process could be streamlined.
Smirk. Until it's YOU facing a biased jury and a hanging judge.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Attila" |
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09 Dec 2004 05:54:02 AM |
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 05:36:15 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <cp8o8e$d5q$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
Attila <Attila> wrote:
I am pro-choice and I have no problem with the death penalty other
than it isn't used often enough and it takes too long.
I'm sure that both problems could be solved by dispensing with all
that time-wasting and expensive business involving trials and juries.
No, but the process could be streamlined.
Smirk. Until it's YOU facing a biased jury and a hanging judge.
Except I don't kill illegally or deal drugs.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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09 Dec 2004 11:35:55 AM |
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Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 05:36:15 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <cp8o8e$d5q$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
Attila <Attila> wrote:
I am pro-choice and I have no problem with the death penalty other
than it isn't used often enough and it takes too long.
I'm sure that both problems could be solved by dispensing with all
that time-wasting and expensive business involving trials and juries.
No, but the process could be streamlined.
Smirk. Until it's YOU facing a biased jury and a hanging judge.
Except I don't kill illegally or deal drugs.
So you assume that everybody who has been arrested is guilty.
So why don't you just insist that we dispense with all the expense and
time of trials and juries?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Attila" |
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09 Dec 2004 01:00:19 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 17:35:55 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <cpa2dq$t4h$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 05:36:15 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <cp8o8e$d5q$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
Attila <Attila> wrote:
I am pro-choice and I have no problem with the death penalty other
than it isn't used often enough and it takes too long.
I'm sure that both problems could be solved by dispensing with all
that time-wasting and expensive business involving trials and juries.
No, but the process could be streamlined.
Smirk. Until it's YOU facing a biased jury and a hanging judge.
Except I don't kill illegally or deal drugs.
So you assume that everybody who has been arrested is guilty.
Nope. Only those convicted.
So why don't you just insist that we dispense with all the expense and
time of trials and juries?
Arrest alone does not prove guilt.
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| User: "Jeffrey Turner" |
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09 Dec 2004 10:48:36 AM |
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Attila wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 05:36:15 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <cp8o8e$d5q$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
Attila <Attila> wrote:
I am pro-choice and I have no problem with the death penalty other
than it isn't used often enough and it takes too long.
I'm sure that both problems could be solved by dispensing with all
that time-wasting and expensive business involving trials and juries.
No, but the process could be streamlined.
Smirk. Until it's YOU facing a biased jury and a hanging judge.
Except I don't kill illegally or deal drugs.
That doesn't mean you won't get arrested for it. Do you really
think they always arrest the person who committed the crime?
That's why people have been let off death row when someone else
confessed or the DNA evidence proves them innocent.
--Jeff
--
Long ago, there was a noble word,
LIBERAL, which derived from the
word FREE [libre]. Now a strange
thing happened to that word. A
man named Hitler made it a term of
abuse, a matter of suspicion,
because those who were not with him
were against him, and liberals had
no use for Hitler. And then another
man named McCarthy cast the same
opprobrium on the word. Indeed,
there was a time - a short but
dismaying time - when many Americans
began to distrust the word which
derived from FREE. One thing we
must all do. We must cherish and
honor the word FREE or it will
cease to apply to us...
--Eleanor Roosevelt
Should any political party attempt
to abolish social security,
unemployment insurance or eliminate
labor laws and farm programs, you
would not hear of that party again.
....There is a tiny splinter group,
of course, that believes you can do
these things. Among them are H.L.
Hunt...a few other Texas oil
millionaires, and an occasional
politician or businessman from
other areas. Their number is
negligible and they are stupid.
--Dwight Eisenhower
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| User: "Attila" |
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09 Dec 2004 12:59:04 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 11:48:36 -0500, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<10rh0f65bvjcde@corp.supernews.com> wrote:
Attila wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 05:36:15 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) in alt.abortion with message-id <cp8o8e$d5q$1@bolt.sonic.net>
wrote:
Attila <Attila> wrote:
(Ray Fischer)
Attila <Attila> wrote:
I am pro-choice and I have no problem with the death penalty other
than it isn't used often enough and it takes too long.
I'm sure that both problems could be solved by dispensing with all
that time-wasting and expensive business involving trials and juries.
No, but the process could be streamlined.
Smirk. Until it's YOU facing a biased jury and a hanging judge.
Except I don't kill illegally or deal drugs.
That doesn't mean you won't get arrested for it. Do you really
think they always arrest the person who committed the crime?
That's why people have been let off death row when someone else
confessed or the DNA evidence proves them innocent.
Life is full of chances. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the
bear eats you.
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| User: "Christopher Benson-Manica" |
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07 Dec 2004 07:55:04 AM |
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Attila <prochoice@here.now> spoke thus:
I am pro-choice and I have no problem with the death penalty other
than it isn't used often enough and it takes too long.
My sentiments exactly.
--
Christopher Benson-Manica | I *should* know what I'm talking about - if I
ataru(at)cyberspace.org | don't, I need to know. Flames welcome.
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10 Dec 2004 11:25:32 PM |
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They(religionists) care so much for the foetus, but when the foetus =
becomes a child and is "born". the child can starve to death as far as =
"they" are concerned. They care more for the foetus than the child. =
Hypocritical Bastards. The very same people that would deny health care =
for the child if the parents are poor and need government help, since =
charities can't afford to help. They care more for their extra thousand =
dollars a year than the child. I bet the very same hypocrites are =
fornicating and adulterating at this very minute. Lying bastards.
v. Donald Spitz" <Glory2Jesus@ArmyofGod.com> wrote in message =
news:mKJsd.833$JB.411@lakeread01...
Why are the pro-abortion babykillers against the death penalty, yet =
have no qualms murdering helpless children in the womb? What a bunch of =
babykilling hypocrites are the pro-abortion fanatics. Let the murderers =
go free but murder the innocent.=20
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SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal =
hell because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my =
sins and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my =
heart and take away my sins and give me eternal life. =
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