On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:40:24 GMT,
"Dorothy" <Zuukie@Comcast_nospam_.net> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

"RepAlciere" <repalciere@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

That website LYINGLY and deceptively makes the
following claims:

"If you are pregnant and you are seeking an abortion,
we do NOT recommend you go to the cheapest or nearest
abortion provider in your local telephone directory. There
are a number of different options available to you. We
recommend you call the following telephone number...

"You will not be pressured into selecting any specific
abortion provider.

"You will not be pressured into selecting any specific
abortion procedure.

Right. THAT'S because those whom "Birthright" lure will be
pressured INSTEAD to gestate-to-term, whether they want to or not!

Those women won't even be OFFERED the abortion option,
and those clowns will NOT refer them to a reputable abortion clinic.

The website goes on to say:

"If you are pregnant and want an abortion, please
visit the ABORTION.HM website at http://ABORTION.HM

Yeah. Right. As though any woman WANTING an abortion
would want **anything** to do with bigoted and hateful losers like
you who seek to CON them OUT of getting the very abortions
that they **want.** (Your deceptive site DOES say: "If you are
pregnant and want an abortion.")

Then, to be even MORE deceptive, they provide two links to PRO-
Choice sites... PP and NARAL. But are careful to slyly include a
disclaimer that manages not to reveal that *they* (Birthright) are
ANTI-Choice. AND, of course, there is NOTHING in that site to let
people know that "Birthright" is running it.

That's ANTI-Choicers for you -- always up to their LYING tricks!

The site is not run by Birthright. I launched the site myself
and was very careful not to make any untrue statements.

Yeah. We've all noticed just PRECISELY the careful way that you
weael-worded everything. Just in case anyone missed the original post,
I've repeated it, above. (*You* didn't!)

It's all true. She CAN call Birthright, just like it says.

Yep. She can call "Birthright," just like it says, with that

size phone number you provided. But there is NO indication that
that is "Birthright's" number, con artist. One doesn't learn THAT
until "Birthright" answers the phone.

All three of us...me, myself, and I, all agree that we do NOT
recommend she goes to the nearest or cheapest abortion facility
in her local telephone directory.

Naturally. They'd get the TRUTH if they did *that*. Perish

that women miss out on their chance to be CONNED into gestating
to term against their will by some very dishonest and coercive

the "Birthright" folks.

It's TRUE that there are a NUMBER of different options available
to her. Me, myself and I do recommend she call that phone number.

Which she's certainly free to do -- if she likes coercion and
pressure. But at least NOW they know the truth about your deceptive
website.

EVERYTHING STATED ON MY NEW WEBSITE IS TRUE.

And weasel-worded to the Nth degree, without even a MENTION
that the phone number rings through to "BIRTHRIGHT."

Nice try, Anti-Choice loser. No cigar.

Now... HERE is what your website **could** have told them it
you'd chosen to be HONEST, instead:

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VALUABLE HOTLINES Pertaining to Reproduction
and Sexual Activity

Well worth printing out and retaining where it can be
quickly accessed. (See ALSO my post dealing with
Emergency Contraception.) (Source at end of post.)

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National Abortion Federation (NAF) Hotline

Sponsored by the National Abortion Federation, this hotline
provides referrals to clinics that perform abortions. They will
also answer questions about the procedure and about the
laws surrounding the procedure.

USA -- 1-800-772-9100
Canada -- 1-800-424-2280

Confidential. -- 9AM - 7AM E.T. -- TDD Available

= = = = = = = =

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's
National STD Hotline

This hotline will answer general questions about STDs,
their symptoms, transmission, treatment and testing, and
can also provide referrals to clinics and other hotlines.

1-800-227-8922 Open 8AM-11PM, E.T., M-F

= = = = = = = =

CDC National HIV & AIDS Hotline

This hotline will provide information about HIV/AIDS, answer
questions about testing and prevention, and will provide referrals
to callers. They will also send out free literature on HIV and AIDS.

1-800-342-AIDS English Language Hotline -- Open 24/7
1-800-344-7432 Spanish Hotline -- 8AM-2PM E.T., M-F

= = = = = = = =

National Teenage AIDS Hotline

Sponsored by the American Red Cross, this hotline uses a
staff of peer educators to provide information about HIV/AIDS
and other STDs and to refer callers to other numbers.

1-800-440-TEEN Fri. & Sat. -- 6 PM to Midnight, E.T.

= = = = = = = =

National Herpes Hotline

Sponsored by the American Social Health Association, this
hotline provides information and counseling to people with herpes
and those who are close to them. It also provides free
publications and referrrals to local support groups.

1-919-361-8488 -- Open 9AM-7PM E.T., M-F

= = = = = = = =

National HPV Hotline

Sponsored by the American Social Health Association, the
hotline answers questions about HPV, and cervical cancer
prevention and treatment.

1-877-HPV-5868 Toll Free -- Open 2PM-7PM E.T., M-F

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Emergency Contraception Hotline

Run by the Reproductive Health Technologies Project, this
hotline provides pre-recorded information about emergency
contraception, and gives the names and phone numbers of
places where you can get emergency contraception.

1-888-NOT2LATE

= = = = = = = =

National Runaway Switchboard

A 24 -hour confidential nationwide hotline providing crisis
intervention and referrals on a range of issues.

1-800-621-4000

= = = = = = = =

National Council for Adoption

You can call them *collect* for information about adoption
options.
0-202-328-1200

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Anti-Choicers may be surprised to find that ALL of the above
data -- *including* the hotlines dealing with adoption and STDs --
are provided on the website of a California abortion clinic.

Maybe NOW they will understand why Pro-Choicers are so
critical of the PHONY "clinics" of the Anti-Choicers (often called
"Crisis Pregnancy Centers" (CPCs) ). Which selfishly provide only
a limited PORTION of such information.

SOURCE: http://www.womenscommunitymedicalclinic.com/

Women's Community Medical Clinic, San Jose, CA

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You folks really do get all excited if

...women are treated unfairly and PRESSURED and COERCED
by anyone to make a reproductive choice that may be counter to
their desire, ***no matter WHAT*** her choice may be. That decision
is a personal and private one. HER decision, and *her* decision
ONLY! NO one else's business. So of course, whenever ANY
buttinsky control-freak attempts to coerce her EITHER to obtain
an abortion OR to gestate to term, they are totally out of line, and
can expect fair-minded egalitarians to try to defend her right to
reach her OWN decision... UNcoerced.

Are there no [Anti-Choice] organizations in California,

in San Jose that this abortion clinic could have listed when providing
options for [women]?

What the hell are you talking about, loon? This was a post that
exposes the lame attempt of a person to CON women who want to
obtain abortions into phoning the ANTI-Choice organization called
"Birthright" -- *without* being honest enough to tell the women WHO
that phone number reaches. Do you have ANY reading compre-
hension skills, or are you as dumb as MOST *other* Anti-Choicers.

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-- Craig Chilton