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"*ProteanThread*" |
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09 Jun 2004 04:42:42 PM |
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beware of symantics in abortion debate |
ok, quesiton:
if the general media (either right and or left) uses the terms:
Pro Choice for those supporting abortion
Anti Abortion for those against abortion
Then why don't they ever use the following terms for the "other" side of the
issue (just to be fair):
Pro Life for those against abortion
Anti Choice for those against abortion
or
Pro Abortion for those supporting abortion
Anti Life for those against abortion
it seems only fair doesn't it? On the other hand, if you were to break down
the phrase "Planned Parenthood" into synonyms, strangely enough the phrase
"Selective Breeding" comes to mind. (can you think of one for right to life
that can be found in a thesaurus?) Is the media telling the truth when they
say more and more Americans are pro choice but how can one really judge that
or believe that when they "selective" choose the words to describe the
debate (meaning the media has already made up our minds for us)?
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: James Roberts is a poster child for Godwin's Law |
21 Jun 2004 05:59:28 AM |
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:04:07 -0700, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <AfsBc.20285$ey.7760@fed1read06> wrote:
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0406180606.26608d4@posting.google.com...
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote...
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't.
Law is RARELY chosen by a majority of the populace.
Non sequitur.
Since the law in Germany was chosen by the few with the biggest guns, and
they chose the holocaust, it was "perfectly legal" in Germany. NOT a non
sequitur.
Do you mean the trials in Germany under German law after the war did
not happen? Are you aware that while the Nazi's did (illegally)
change some laws regarding Jews and other 'undesirables' they never
made killing them legal, even under Nazi law?
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: James Roberts is a poster child for Godwin's Law |
21 Jun 2004 11:14:30 PM |
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Attila <prochoice@here.now> writes:
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:04:07 -0700, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <AfsBc.20285$ey.7760@fed1read06> wrote:
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0406180606.26608d4@posting.google.com...
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote...
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't.
Law is RARELY chosen by a majority of the populace.
Non sequitur.
Since the law in Germany was chosen by the few with the biggest guns, and
they chose the holocaust, it was "perfectly legal" in Germany. NOT a non
sequitur.
Do you mean the trials in Germany under German law after the war did
not happen? Are you aware that while the Nazi's did (illegally)
change some laws regarding Jews and other 'undesirables' they never
made killing them legal, even under Nazi law?
You're trying to explain that to someone who couldn't hit the Pacific from the
Santa Monica pier. Bloody optimist. :-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: James Roberts is a poster child for Godwin's Law |
22 Jun 2004 06:27:48 AM |
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On 21 Jun 2004 23:14:30 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id <szkacywqleh.fsf@fnord.io.com> wrote:
Attila <prochoice@here.now> writes:
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:04:07 -0700, "Chris" <reddd@juno.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <AfsBc.20285$ey.7760@fed1read06> wrote:
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0406180606.26608d4@posting.google.com...
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote...
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't.
Law is RARELY chosen by a majority of the populace.
Non sequitur.
Since the law in Germany was chosen by the few with the biggest guns, and
they chose the holocaust, it was "perfectly legal" in Germany. NOT a non
sequitur.
Do you mean the trials in Germany under German law after the war did
not happen? Are you aware that while the Nazi's did (illegally)
change some laws regarding Jews and other 'undesirables' they never
made killing them legal, even under Nazi law?
You're trying to explain that to someone who couldn't hit the Pacific from the
Santa Monica pier. Bloody optimist. :-)
I prefer to say he couldn't hit the floor if he fell down.
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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22 Jun 2004 08:45:00 PM |
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Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote...
Attila <prochoice@here.now> writes:
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote:
Since the law in Germany was chosen by the few with the biggest guns, and
they chose the holocaust, it was "perfectly legal" in Germany. NOT a non
sequitur.
Do you mean the trials in Germany under German law after the war did
not happen? Are you aware that while the Nazi's did (illegally)
change some laws regarding Jews and other 'undesirables' they never
made killing them legal, even under Nazi law?
You're trying to explain that to someone who couldn't hit the Pacific
With what???
from the Santa Monica pier. Bloody optimist. :-)
And there's pretty strong winds blowing inland, and I'm sure Chris
never read the warnings. ;-)
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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16 Jun 2004 08:42:46 PM |
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"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0406161015.343adb92@posting.google.com...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't. Why do you think the Nazis took such pains to hide what
they were doing from their people?
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And even when the German people heard rumors they couldn't believe them!
--
Flower Power........
One women dies giving birth every 30 minutes in Afghanistan.
Do they also warn women of the dangers of term pregnancy and
birth?.......like:
http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml
http://www.imnotsorry.net/
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
The risk of death associated with childbirth is about 11 times as high as
that associated with abortion.27
http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00054602.htm
http://www.afterabortion.org/news/deaths_smj.html
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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17 Jun 2004 06:20:18 AM |
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:42:46 -0500, "Flower Power"
<WomenBeforeZygotes@this.NG> wrote:
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0406161015.343adb92@posting.google.com...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't. Why do you think the Nazis took such pains to hide what
they were doing from their people?
==================================
And even when the German people heard rumors they couldn't believe them!
It never ceseases to amaze me the depths of deep stupidity these
anti-choicers sink to.
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| User: "Bee Hedda D. DemsOfour" |
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18 Jun 2004 06:14:24 PM |
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Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<rhv2d05t9jrt65894jc54b164ugsijtona@4ax.com>...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:42:46 -0500, "Flower Power"
<WomenBeforeZygotes@this.NG> wrote:
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0406161015.343adb92@posting.google.com...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't. Why do you think the Nazis took such pains to hide what
they were doing from their people?
==================================
And even when the German people heard rumors they couldn't believe them!
It never ceseases to amaze me the depths of deep stupidity these
anti-choicers sink to.
Really, now? Well, Sappy, go over some of your own material. While
you're at it, go over a few paragraphs of the 76 million or so gems
posted by Fischer, Keegan, Humphrey, Killer Chilton, Reptile and Sex
Kitten. If it's real ***** you want, visit the outhouse where these
imbeciles drop some of their best *stuff." Don't mess around with
amateurs, sir. Bring a gas mask. Bee
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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19 Jun 2004 02:56:22 PM |
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(Bee Hedda D. DemsO'four) writes:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<rhv2d05t9jrt65894jc54b164ugsijtona@4ax.com>...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:42:46 -0500, "Flower Power"
<WomenBeforeZygotes@this.NG> wrote:
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0406161015.343adb92@posting.google.com...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't. Why do you think the Nazis took such pains to hide what
they were doing from their people?
==================================
And even when the German people heard rumors they couldn't believe them!
It never ceseases to amaze me the depths of deep stupidity these
anti-choicers sink to.
Really, now? Well, Sappy, go over some of your own material. While
you're at it, go over a few paragraphs of the 76 million or so gems
posted by Fischer, Keegan, Humphrey, Killer Chilton, Reptile and Sex
Kitten. If it's real ***** you want, visit the outhouse where these
imbeciles drop some of their best *stuff." Don't mess around with
amateurs, sir. Bring a gas mask. Bee
A gas mask would be appropriate for dealing with the toxic waste you post
under the guise of being the leader of your sockpuppet brigade, Cleo Marie.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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19 Jun 2004 03:09:05 PM |
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On 19 Jun 2004 14:56:22 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
bee@linkedto.themailcrypt.com (Bee Hedda D. DemsO'four) writes:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<rhv2d05t9jrt65894jc54b164ugsijtona@4ax.com>...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:42:46 -0500, "Flower Power"
<WomenBeforeZygotes@this.NG> wrote:
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0406161015.343adb92@posting.google.com...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't. Why do you think the Nazis took such pains to hide what
they were doing from their people?
==================================
And even when the German people heard rumors they couldn't believe them!
It never ceseases to amaze me the depths of deep stupidity these
anti-choicers sink to.
Really, now? Well, Sappy, go over some of your own material. While
you're at it, go over a few paragraphs of the 76 million or so gems
posted by Fischer, Keegan, Humphrey, Killer Chilton, Reptile and Sex
Kitten. If it's real ***** you want, visit the outhouse where these
imbeciles drop some of their best *stuff." Don't mess around with
amateurs, sir. Bring a gas mask. Bee
A gas mask would be appropriate for dealing with the toxic waste you post
under the guise of being the leader of your sockpuppet brigade, Cleo Marie.
I have a couple of those handy. Want one?
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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19 Jun 2004 03:15:37 PM |
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Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 19 Jun 2004 14:56:22 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
bee@linkedto.themailcrypt.com (Bee Hedda D. DemsO'four) writes:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<rhv2d05t9jrt65894jc54b164ugsijtona@4ax.com>...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:42:46 -0500, "Flower Power"
<WomenBeforeZygotes@this.NG> wrote:
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0406161015.343adb92@posting.google.com...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't. Why do you think the Nazis took such pains to hide what
they were doing from their people?
==================================
And even when the German people heard rumors they couldn't believe them!
It never ceseases to amaze me the depths of deep stupidity these
anti-choicers sink to.
Really, now? Well, Sappy, go over some of your own material. While
you're at it, go over a few paragraphs of the 76 million or so gems
posted by Fischer, Keegan, Humphrey, Killer Chilton, Reptile and Sex
Kitten. If it's real ***** you want, visit the outhouse where these
imbeciles drop some of their best *stuff." Don't mess around with
amateurs, sir. Bring a gas mask. Bee
A gas mask would be appropriate for dealing with the toxic waste you post
under the guise of being the leader of your sockpuppet brigade, Cleo Marie.
I have a couple of those handy. Want one?
No need...when you live 20 miles or so downwind of the world's largest
petrochemical complex, it's a good idea to have the real thing handy. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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19 Jun 2004 03:47:57 PM |
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On 19 Jun 2004 15:15:37 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 19 Jun 2004 14:56:22 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
bee@linkedto.themailcrypt.com (Bee Hedda D. DemsO'four) writes:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<rhv2d05t9jrt65894jc54b164ugsijtona@4ax.com>...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:42:46 -0500, "Flower Power"
<WomenBeforeZygotes@this.NG> wrote:
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0406161015.343adb92@posting.google.com...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't. Why do you think the Nazis took such pains to hide what
they were doing from their people?
==================================
And even when the German people heard rumors they couldn't believe them!
It never ceseases to amaze me the depths of deep stupidity these
anti-choicers sink to.
Really, now? Well, Sappy, go over some of your own material. While
you're at it, go over a few paragraphs of the 76 million or so gems
posted by Fischer, Keegan, Humphrey, Killer Chilton, Reptile and Sex
Kitten. If it's real ***** you want, visit the outhouse where these
imbeciles drop some of their best *stuff." Don't mess around with
amateurs, sir. Bring a gas mask. Bee
A gas mask would be appropriate for dealing with the toxic waste you post
under the guise of being the leader of your sockpuppet brigade, Cleo Marie.
I have a couple of those handy. Want one?
No need...when you live 20 miles or so downwind of the world's largest
petrochemical complex, it's a good idea to have the real thing handy. ;-)
Hahahaha!
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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18 Jun 2004 08:24:00 PM |
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On 18 Jun 2004 16:14:24 -0700, (Bee
Hedda D. DemsO'four) wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<rhv2d05t9jrt65894jc54b164ugsijtona@4ax.com>...
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:42:46 -0500, "Flower Power"
<WomenBeforeZygotes@this.NG> wrote:
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0406161015.343adb92@posting.google.com...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't. Why do you think the Nazis took such pains to hide what
they were doing from their people?
==================================
And even when the German people heard rumors they couldn't believe them!
It never ceseases to amaze me the depths of deep stupidity these
anti-choicers sink to.
Really, now?
Yes, really now.
[...]
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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16 Jun 2004 08:31:00 PM |
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(Spartakus) writes:
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't. Why do you think the Nazis took such pains to hide what
they were doing from their people?
"James" doesn't think. He just reacts.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Bee Hedda D. DemsOfour" |
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18 Jun 2004 06:05:41 PM |
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(Spartakus) wrote in message news:<6ed74dfa.0406161015.343adb92@posting.google.com>...
James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany
No it wasn't. Why do you think the Nazis took such pains to hide what
they were doing from their people?
Where's your evidence that their principal motivation for concealing
their program of mass extermination of the Jews had anything at all to
do with their fear that the "leute" would get wind of what was going
on? No, Spartakus, any efforts to conceal what they were doing were
motivated by a desire to hide it from the world community, and even at
that active steps to physically shield the scope of their activities
didn't occur 'till near the end of the war when the Americans and
Russians were moving in on these facilities. They were afraid of war
crimes evidence is what they were, not the German people. They knew
who could hang them and who couldn't. A bigger and better army could,
that's who.
For someone who likes to label faulty arguments, you certainly do make
more than your share of them. You constantly proceed from faulty or
questionable premises and then draw equally faulty conclusions.
Bee
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| User: "Attila" |
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15 Jun 2004 06:03:35 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:53:32 -0500, James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<cvosc0ta63opjf7e9uo9jd43qqskfargnu@4ax.com> wrote:
How about calling you and your sockpuppet brigade masters of denial? (Free
clue: prior to 1973, what jurisdictions in this country charged a woman with
murder for obtaining an abortion?)
The Holocaust against Jews was "perfectly legal" in Germany and because it was
legal at the time does that mean it was acceptable?
Actually it was not legal, as proven in German courts after the war,
and while it was not acceptable to the Jews it was acceptable to the
Nazi's.
It appears being 'acceptable' is another one of those tricky terms it
is hard to define.
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| User: "J Young" |
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11 Jun 2004 11:21:24 PM |
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Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szkfz913dwg.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
youngopinions@aol.comnojunk (J Young) writes:
From: (Ray Fischer)
*ProteanThread* <sysop@rtdos.com> wrote:
ok, quesiton:
if the general media (either right and or left) uses the terms:
Pro Choice for those supporting abortion
Anti Abortion for those against abortion
Then why don't they ever use the following terms for the "other" side of the
issue (just to be fair):
Pro Life for those against abortion
Anti Choice for those against abortion
or
Pro Abortion for those supporting abortion
Anti Life for those against abortion
it seems only fair doesn't it?
It's not about "fair". It's about accuracy and telling the truth.
how about calling it murder?
How about calling you and your sockpuppet brigade masters of denial? (Free
clue: prior to 1973, what jurisdictions in this country charged a woman with
murder for obtaining an abortion?)
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 AM |
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(J Young) writes:
Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szkfz913dwg.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
nojunk (J Young) writes:
From: (Ray Fischer)
*ProteanThread* <sysop@rtdos.com> wrote:
ok, quesiton:
if the general media (either right and or left) uses the terms:
Pro Choice for those supporting abortion
Anti Abortion for those against abortion
Then why don't they ever use the following terms for the "other" side of
the issue (just to be fair):
Pro Life for those against abortion
Anti Choice for those against abortion
or
Pro Abortion for those supporting abortion
Anti Life for those against abortion
it seems only fair doesn't it?
It's not about "fair". It's about accuracy and telling the truth.
how about calling it murder?
How about calling you and your sockpuppet brigade masters of denial? (Free
clue: prior to 1973, what jurisdictions in this country charged a woman
with murder for obtaining an abortion?)
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue. Laws are a public issue. Have someone pound
that fact into your head before demanding we agree to your patent *****,
IBenStupidSinceDayOne.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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14 Jun 2004 10:04:16 PM |
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On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in <> and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals Herr Nazi Humphrey because if you did you would
not be a championeer of infanticide and you would not blaspheme the Lord Jesus
Christ who declared all the little children come to him which your types won't
allow. You are a nazi and a hater of the only Sovereign Lord.
Subject: Re: Jesus Christ or eternal hell fire.
From: (Patrick L. Humphrey)
Message-ID: <szkbsfng5a6.fsf@eris.io.com>
shii14@yahoo.com (Ruth Muraya) writes:
please avoid using foul language when addressing issues relating to
Jesus Christ else you will surely DIE!!!!.
We all have to face that eventually...why don't you let your alleged savior
speak for himself?
--PLH, I found Jesus! He was buried under the dustbunnies back of the couch
Subject: Re: JESUS IS LORD
From: (Patrick L. Humphrey)
Message-ID: <szkr9mmcwmu.fsf@eris.io.com>
Valerie Gould <sgould@ionet.net> writes:
"Patrick L. Humphrey" wrote:
[...deletia...]
I am not one of Oral's mindless drones I am an independent Christian who Loves
Jesus Christ with all my heart mind soul and strength. That is the greatest
commandment. Your persecution doesn't bother me just shows that I am doing
something right. And no I wont take it to a religious newsgroups. If you can
worship satan here I can worship Jesus! IT is time for the Christians to stand
up and say WE are not going to take it off of satan anymore! I will continue
to worship my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ anyway I please. come to Jesus
before its too late!
You can worship Tinky Winky, for all I care -- but this is Usenet, and idiots
like you don't have a _right_ to clog this newsgroup with your crap, no matter
what you think your alleged deity tells you...
Subject: Re: Tired of All this Jesus Nonsense
From: (Patrick L. Humphrey)
Message-ID: <szkemlks6xl.fsf@dillinger.io.com>
"millerbeers" <millerbeers@email.msn.com> writes:
Patrick L. Humphrey wrote in message ...
"In His Service" <knzpeterson@uswest.net> writes:
Fury, PLH & prochoice (aka: proabort; prodeath),
Sorry, schmuck. I'm pro-choice. Take your religious crap to a religious
newsgroup. Meanwhile, follow your death-cult's own advice and beat the dust
off your sandals and leave -- you're not wanted or needed here.
So what is this newsgroup for then? If you don't want to discuss ideas, are
you all just hanging out here to discuss different ways to abort unborn
children?
This newsgroup is alt.abortion. It isn't alt.jesus.is.lord, or any other name
that would signify its purpose as being for religious discussions. There are
plenty of those in the alt. and soc. hierarchies, already, so any preachers
are advised to take their babble to a newsgroup where it's at least got _some_
connection with the newsgroup's purpose. Bothering other newsgroups with
their prattling won't win them any converts, but _will_ likely ***** off people
to the point where you get the inevitable flamefest.
What do you mean by "death-cult"?
Well, what would you call a religion that makes such a big deal of its
supposed founder being nailed up and left to die, and crafts such a convoluted
morality that produces such marvels as suffering being deemed virtuous?
--PLH, think I'll stick to more common-sense notions than those
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey ( ) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
Nazi Patrick Humphrey worships the same gods his heros the nazis worshipped and
that is nature and one's self. Houston, Texas should be ashamed that a nazi
claims residence there.
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
15 Jun 2004 02:51:53 AM |
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James Roberts wrote:
On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in < > and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals Herr Nazi Humphrey because if you did you would
not be a championeer of infanticide and you would not blaspheme the Lord Jesus
Christ who declared all the little children come to him which your types won't
allow.
Doesn't abortion send them straight to heaven? That's what I heard.
You are a nazi and a hater of the only Sovereign Lord.
Subject: Re: Jesus Christ or eternal hell fire.
From: (Patrick L. Humphrey)
Message-ID: <szkbsfng5a6.fsf@eris.io.com>
shii14@yahoo.com (Ruth Muraya) writes:
please avoid using foul language when addressing issues relating to
Jesus Christ else you will surely DIE!!!!.
We all have to face that eventually...why don't you let your alleged savior
speak for himself?
--PLH, I found Jesus! He was buried under the dustbunnies back of the couch
Subject: Re: JESUS IS LORD
From: (Patrick L. Humphrey)
Message-ID: <szkr9mmcwmu.fsf@eris.io.com>
Valerie Gould <sgould@ionet.net> writes:
"Patrick L. Humphrey" wrote:
[...deletia...]
I am not one of Oral's mindless drones I am an independent Christian who Loves
Jesus Christ with all my heart mind soul and strength. That is the greatest
commandment. Your persecution doesn't bother me just shows that I am doing
something right. And no I wont take it to a religious newsgroups. If you can
worship satan here I can worship Jesus! IT is time for the Christians to stand
up and say WE are not going to take it off of satan anymore! I will continue
to worship my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ anyway I please. come to Jesus
before its too late!
You can worship Tinky Winky, for all I care -- but this is Usenet, and idiots
like you don't have a _right_ to clog this newsgroup with your crap, no matter
what you think your alleged deity tells you...
Subject: Re: Tired of All this Jesus Nonsense
From: (Patrick L. Humphrey)
Message-ID: <szkemlks6xl.fsf@dillinger.io.com>
"millerbeers" <millerbeers@email.msn.com> writes:
Patrick L. Humphrey wrote in message ...
"In His Service" <knzpeterson@uswest.net> writes:
Fury, PLH & prochoice (aka: proabort; prodeath),
Sorry, schmuck. I'm pro-choice. Take your religious crap to a religious
newsgroup. Meanwhile, follow your death-cult's own advice and beat the dust
off your sandals and leave -- you're not wanted or needed here.
So what is this newsgroup for then? If you don't want to discuss ideas, are
you all just hanging out here to discuss different ways to abort unborn
children?
This newsgroup is alt.abortion. It isn't alt.jesus.is.lord, or any other name
that would signify its purpose as being for religious discussions. There are
plenty of those in the alt. and soc. hierarchies, already, so any preachers
are advised to take their babble to a newsgroup where it's at least got _some_
connection with the newsgroup's purpose. Bothering other newsgroups with
their prattling won't win them any converts, but _will_ likely ***** off people
to the point where you get the inevitable flamefest.
What do you mean by "death-cult"?
Well, what would you call a religion that makes such a big deal of its
supposed founder being nailed up and left to die, and crafts such a convoluted
morality that produces such marvels as suffering being deemed virtuous?
--PLH, think I'll stick to more common-sense notions than those
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey ( ) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
Nazi Patrick Humphrey worships the same gods his heros the nazis worshipped and
that is nature and one's self. Houston, Texas should be ashamed that a nazi
claims residence there.
--
--sexkitten--Eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow they may make it illegal.
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
15 Jun 2004 05:15:14 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:04:16 -0500, James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in <patrick@io.com> and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals...
You're an idiot.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
15 Jun 2004 05:43:39 AM |
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Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:04:16 -0500, James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in <patrick@io.com> and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals...
You're an idiot.
Why dignify him *that* much? He's an insult to idiots. (Most incompetent
trolls are, and Houston's a better place for not having him around.
*snicker*)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
15 Jun 2004 06:26:45 AM |
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On 15 Jun 2004 05:43:39 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:04:16 -0500, James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in <patrick@io.com> and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals...
You're an idiot.
Why dignify him *that* much? He's an insult to idiots. (Most incompetent
trolls are, and Houston's a better place for not having him around.
*snicker*)
I feel like a Snickers bar.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
15 Jun 2004 06:37:41 AM |
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Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 05:43:39 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:04:16 -0500, James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in <patrick@io.com> and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals...
You're an idiot.
Why dignify him *that* much? He's an insult to idiots. (Most incompetent
trolls are, and Houston's a better place for not having him around.
*snicker*)
I feel like a Snickers bar.
I'm not about to get near *that* allusion. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
15 Jun 2004 06:49:03 AM |
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On 15 Jun 2004 06:37:41 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 05:43:39 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:04:16 -0500, James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in <patrick@io.com> and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals...
You're an idiot.
Why dignify him *that* much? He's an insult to idiots. (Most incompetent
trolls are, and Houston's a better place for not having him around.
*snicker*)
I feel like a Snickers bar.
I'm not about to get near *that* allusion. ;-)
That's understandable!
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
15 Jun 2004 06:50:53 AM |
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Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 06:37:41 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 05:43:39 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:04:16 -0500, James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in <patrick@io.com> and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals...
You're an idiot.
Why dignify him *that* much? He's an insult to idiots. (Most incompetent
trolls are, and Houston's a better place for not having him around.
*snicker*)
I feel like a Snickers bar.
I'm not about to get near *that* allusion. ;-)
That's understandable!
....even if not for reasons the usual suspects will insist are The Gospel
Truth[tm].
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
15 Jun 2004 07:01:19 AM |
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On 15 Jun 2004 06:50:53 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 06:37:41 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 05:43:39 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:04:16 -0500, James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in <patrick@io.com> and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals...
You're an idiot.
Why dignify him *that* much? He's an insult to idiots. (Most incompetent
trolls are, and Houston's a better place for not having him around.
*snicker*)
I feel like a Snickers bar.
I'm not about to get near *that* allusion. ;-)
That's understandable!
...even if not for reasons the usual suspects will insist are The Gospel
Truth[tm].
They think you're dying of AIDS, afterall. Let the facts here, even if
our adversaries would rather die than face them -- you and snickers
bars just don't go well toegther. (If that's what YOU were alluding
to.)
Whatever the case, let the conspiracies flow!
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
15 Jun 2004 07:06:27 AM |
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Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 06:50:53 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 06:37:41 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 05:43:39 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:04:16 -0500, James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in <patrick@io.com> and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals...
You're an idiot.
Why dignify him *that* much? He's an insult to idiots. (Most
incompetent trolls are, and Houston's a better place for not having him
around. *snicker*)
I feel like a Snickers bar.
I'm not about to get near *that* allusion. ;-)
That's understandable!
...even if not for reasons the usual suspects will insist are The Gospel
Truth[tm].
They think you're dying of AIDS, afterall. Let the facts here, even if
our adversaries would rather die than face them -- you and snickers
bars just don't go well toegther. (If that's what YOU were alluding
to.)
That, among other things.
Whatever the case, let the conspiracies flow!
They will, rest assured. Might as well sit back and enjoy the circus.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
15 Jun 2004 07:10:40 AM |
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On 15 Jun 2004 07:06:27 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 06:50:53 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 06:37:41 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 05:43:39 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:04:16 -0500, James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in <patrick@io.com> and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals...
You're an idiot.
Why dignify him *that* much? He's an insult to idiots. (Most
incompetent trolls are, and Houston's a better place for not having him
around. *snicker*)
I feel like a Snickers bar.
I'm not about to get near *that* allusion. ;-)
That's understandable!
...even if not for reasons the usual suspects will insist are The Gospel
Truth[tm].
They think you're dying of AIDS, afterall. Let the facts here, even if
our adversaries would rather die than face them -- you and snickers
bars just don't go well toegther. (If that's what YOU were alluding
to.)
That, among other things.
Picked the obvious one. The rest are things that those morons aren't
privy to know. :-)
Whatever the case, let the conspiracies flow!
They will, rest assured. Might as well sit back and enjoy the circus.
-)
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
15 Jun 2004 07:04:57 AM |
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On 15 Jun 2004 06:50:53 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 06:37:41 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On 15 Jun 2004 05:43:39 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:04:16 -0500, James Roberts <jimbo12@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2004 06:31:33 -0500, <szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com> Nazi Patrick Lee
Humphrey stormed in <patrick@io.com> and vomited:
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue.
The truth is you have no morals...
You're an idiot.
Why dignify him *that* much? He's an insult to idiots. (Most incompetent
trolls are, and Houston's a better place for not having him around.
*snicker*)
I feel like a Snickers bar.
I'm not about to get near *that* allusion. ;-)
That's understandable!
...even if not for reasons the usual suspects will insist are The Gospel
Truth[tm].
They think you're dying of AIDS, afterall. Let's face
the facts here, even if our adversaries would rather die than face
them -- you and Snickes Bars just don't go well together (If that's
what YOU were alluding to).
Whatever the case, let the conspiracies flow!
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: beware of symantics in abortion debate |
12 Jun 2004 05:11:38 PM |
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Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szky8mt57xm.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
youngopinions@aol.com (J Young) writes:
[..........]
how about calling it murder?
How about calling you and your sockpuppet brigade masters of denial? (Free
clue: prior to 1973, what jurisdictions in this country charged a woman
with murder for obtaining an abortion?)
Legal repercussions and their moral equivalent are two seperate
matters.It's still murder.
Morals are a personal issue. Laws are a public issue. Have someone pound
that fact into your head before demanding we agree to your patent *****,
IBenStupidSinceDayOne.
Do they speak english down in your neck of the woods,Rice Pattie? What
part of what I posted do you need translated? You spend too much time
conversing with ***** for brains Kris Blake.
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