Science > Abortion > Bill makes killing a pregnant woman at any stage a double slaying
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15 Feb 2006 11:48:51 PM |
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Bill makes killing a pregnant woman at any stage a double slaying |
The Georgia legislature should take matters one step further; killing only
the pre-born child at any stage should also constitute homicide.
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/0214metlegabortion.html
Bill makes killing a pregnant woman at any stage a double slaying
A woman uses a test at home and finds that she is pregnant. Later in the
day, she is shot to death. Has one person been killed - or two?
That question is one Georgia lawmakers are likely to debate soon.
Bills in the House and headed for the Senate would change Georgia's feticide
laws to allow for the prosecution of anyone who causes the death of an
unborn child, regardless of the stage of pregnancy.
"I consider a fetus to be a person, and you're killing two people," said
Sen. Renee Unterman (R-Buford), who plans to push a Senate bill aimed at
changing the state's feticide laws. "So you should be punished for killing
two people."
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16 Feb 2006 12:38:50 AM |
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*The Georgia legislature should take matters one step further; killing
only
*the pre-born child at any stage should also constitute homicide.
Since women can also vote, no political party will ever even consider
that. Live with it.
Besides, there are no "pre-born" child. Stop inventing words and
concepts. There are foetuses, and there are babies. Period.
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| User: "Daniel" |
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16 Feb 2006 05:28:54 AM |
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I believe what he means to say is that almost from the moment of conception,
a new life begins to evolve within a mother... and that being so, would
equal 2 lives and not just the mother's.
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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*The Georgia legislature should take matters one step further; killing
only
*the pre-born child at any stage should also constitute homicide.
Since women can also vote, no political party will ever even consider
that. Live with it.
Besides, there are no "pre-born" child. Stop inventing words and
concepts. There are foetuses, and there are babies. Period.
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16 Feb 2006 10:01:50 PM |
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"Daniel" <dcclark@cogeco.ca> writes:
I believe what he means to say is that almost from the moment of conception,
a new life begins to evolve within a mother... and that being so, would
equal 2 lives and not just the mother's.
Of course, using your logic, as many as 70% of those "lives" never see the
light of day because they fail to implant in the uterine wall and thus start
the pregnancy...the idiots in Georgia that scammed this idea of a law only
seem to care that their fetish is enacted on the rest of us, the established
body of law be damned.
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chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 6, Cleveland 4 (February 15)
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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16 Feb 2006 11:14:48 PM |
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Daniel <dcclark@cogeco.ca> wrote:
I believe what he means to say is that almost from the moment of conception,
a new life begins to evolve within a mother... and that being so, would
equal 2 lives and not just the mother's.
Just as a "new life" is created during meiosis when a new sperm or egg
cell is created.
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| User: "Sasha" |
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16 Feb 2006 08:58:30 AM |
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Incredible. It looks as though fundamentalist christians have "evolved"
the ability to see into the future. They can tell that every single
fetus will come to term. No possibility of a miscarriage, defects,
mother on crack/smoking/drinking...nope, every baby to be is perfect.
Essentially, the law is going to state that a person can be convicted
of murdering someone who may or may not eventually exist. Brilliant.
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| User: "osprey" |
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17 Feb 2006 09:21:38 AM |
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Sasha wrote:
Incredible. It looks as though fundamentalist christians have "evolved"
the ability to see into the future. They can tell that every single
fetus will come to term. No possibility of a miscarriage, defects,
mother on crack/smoking/drinking...nope, every baby to be is perfect.
Essentially, the law is going to state that a person can be convicted
of murdering someone who may or may not eventually exist. Brilliant.
Someone could kill you today, and you may or may not exist tomorrow.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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17 Feb 2006 09:33:42 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
Sasha wrote:
Incredible. It looks as though fundamentalist christians have "evolved"
the ability to see into the future. They can tell that every single
fetus will come to term. No possibility of a miscarriage, defects,
mother on crack/smoking/drinking...nope, every baby to be is perfect.
Essentially, the law is going to state that a person can be convicted
of murdering someone who may or may not eventually exist. Brilliant.
Someone could kill you today, and you may or may not exist tomorrow.
....which has damn all to do with what Sasha pointed out; besides, *you*
already exist. S/he's talking about someone who doesn't, yet. So much for
your "education"...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 6, Cleveland 4 (February 15)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 17 at Iowa, 7:05
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| User: "osprey" |
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17 Feb 2006 09:56:11 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
Sasha wrote:
Incredible. It looks as though fundamentalist christians have "evolved"
the ability to see into the future. They can tell that every single
fetus will come to term. No possibility of a miscarriage, defects,
mother on crack/smoking/drinking...nope, every baby to be is perfect.
Essentially, the law is going to state that a person can be convicted
of murdering someone who may or may not eventually exist. Brilliant.
Someone could kill you today, and you may or may not exist tomorrow.
...which has damn all to do with what Sasha pointed out; besides, *you*
already exist.
The unborn child exist as well.
S/he's talking about someone who doesn't, yet.
You need to believe that false assumption.
So much for
your "education"...
So much for yours, almost any doctor will tell you that the unborn child
does exist.
Why were you fired from Rice University, Rice reject???
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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17 Feb 2006 12:11:46 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
Sasha wrote:
Incredible. It looks as though fundamentalist christians have "evolved"
the ability to see into the future. They can tell that every single
fetus will come to term. No possibility of a miscarriage, defects,
mother on crack/smoking/drinking...nope, every baby to be is perfect.
Essentially, the law is going to state that a person can be convicted
of murdering someone who may or may not eventually exist. Brilliant.
Someone could kill you today, and you may or may not exist tomorrow.
...which has damn all to do with what Sasha pointed out; besides, *you*
already exist.
The unborn child exist as well.
You can't read any better than your comrade Wentzky the Whackjob. "someone
who may or may not eventually exist" doesn't have anything to do with the
present. That's about the reading comp I'd expect from a "prestigious" school
like Wilmington (DE) College.
S/he's talking about someone who doesn't, yet.
You need to believe that false assumption.
You need to go back to grade school and learn English, since you obviously
missed it the first time around.
So much for your "education"...
So much for yours, almost any doctor will tell you that the unborn child
does exist.
So much for your attention span.
Why were you fired from Rice University, Rice reject???
Ask them. (Not that they'll tell you, or that you'll be truthful about any of
it.) Unfortunately for your impotent fantasy, it had nothing to do with any
violation of law.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 6, Cleveland 4 (February 15)
NEXT GAME: Friday, February 17 at Iowa, 7:05
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| User: "osprey" |
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17 Feb 2006 12:18:50 PM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
Sasha wrote:
Incredible. It looks as though fundamentalist christians have
"evolved"
the ability to see into the future. They can tell that every single
fetus will come to term. No possibility of a miscarriage, defects,
mother on crack/smoking/drinking...nope, every baby to be is perfect.
Essentially, the law is going to state that a person can be convicted
of murdering someone who may or may not eventually exist. Brilliant.
Someone could kill you today, and you may or may not exist tomorrow.
...which has damn all to do with what Sasha pointed out; besides, *you*
already exist.
The unborn child exist as well.
You can't read any better than your comrade Wentzky the Whackjob.
"someone
who may or may not eventually exist" doesn't have anything to do with the
present.
So you wish to alter reality to fit your verision.
That's about the reading comp I'd expect from a "prestigious" school
like Wilmington (DE) College.
S/he's talking about someone who doesn't, yet.
You need to believe that false assumption.
You need to go back to grade school and learn English, since you obviously
missed it the first time around.
You just need to grow up.
So much for your "education"...
So much for yours, almost any doctor will tell you that the unborn child
does exist.
So much for your attention span.
Go ahead and find a medical professional who says the unborn child doesn't
exist.
Why were you fired from Rice University, Rice reject???
Ask them.
I'm asking YOU, since it was YOU who was kicked to the curb by Rice.
You are the RICE REJECT.
(Not that they'll tell you, or that you'll be truthful about any of
it.) Unfortunately for your impotent fantasy, it had nothing to do with
any
violation of law.
Then why are you embarrassed to say why you were fired?
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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21 Feb 2006 12:57:41 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szku0axyhwd.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szk7j7u3sq1.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
Sasha wrote:
Incredible. It looks as though fundamentalist christians have "evolved"
the ability to see into the future. They can tell that every single
fetus will come to term. No possibility of a miscarriage, defects,
mother on crack/smoking/drinking...nope, every baby to be is perfect.
Essentially, the law is going to state that a person can be convicted
of murdering someone who may or may not eventually exist. Brilliant.
Someone could kill you today, and you may or may not exist tomorrow.
...which has damn all to do with what Sasha pointed out; besides, *you*
already exist.
The unborn child exist as well.
You can't read any better than your comrade Wentzky the Whackjob. "someone
who may or may not eventually exist" doesn't have anything to do with the
present.
So you wish to alter reality to fit your verision.
You're the one fooling around with tailoring the reality to your agenda.
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S/he's talking about someone who doesn't, yet.
You need to believe that false assumption.
You need to go back to grade school and learn English, since you obviously
missed it the first time around.
You just need to grow up.
I got that over with three decades or so ago, back when you were still trying
to master the alphabet past B.
So much for your "education"...
So much for yours, almost any doctor will tell you that the unborn child
does exist.
So much for your attention span.
Go ahead and find a medical professional who says the unborn child doesn't
exist.
Why? You're the one making the assertion, so you get to prove it...not that
I'd expect you to actually do so.
Why were you fired from Rice University, Rice reject???
Ask them.
I'm asking YOU, since it was YOU who was kicked to the curb by Rice.
You are the RICE REJECT.
So? Your opinion is your problem.
(Not that they'll tell you, or that you'll be truthful about any of it.)
Unfortunately for your impotent fantasy, it had nothing to do with any
violation of law.
Then why are you embarrassed to say why you were fired?
Why are you the arrogant ***** who presumes he knows what I think? I'm not
embarrassed to state that I was fired. That's a recorded fact. Why does a
goldbricking prison babysitter like you need to know? If it's that important
to you, get a subpoena.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Iowa 3 (February 18)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, February 23 vs. Iowa, 7:05
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19 Feb 2006 12:39:11 PM |
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osprey wrote:
Sasha wrote:
Incredible. It looks as though fundamentalist christians have "evolved"
the ability to see into the future. They can tell that every single
fetus will come to term. No possibility of a miscarriage, defects,
mother on crack/smoking/drinking...nope, every baby to be is perfect.
Essentially, the law is going to state that a person can be convicted
of murdering someone who may or may not eventually exist. Brilliant.
Someone could kill you today, and you may or may not exist tomorrow.
And in Heaven, things may or may not be the tiniest bit better for you.
Paul
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| User: "Daniel" |
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16 Feb 2006 05:52:15 PM |
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Well, as a a living being who begins to grow inside it's mother, it has no
other choice but to be there in order to continue growing until moment of
birth. Even then, as the child is born into the world, the child has no
other choice but to follow and learn from it's surroundings. Everything is
new to a new born... even when the eyes begin to develop inside the womb, it
can still see a fragment of 'light'... lol... in the beginning, there was
LIGHT :)
"Sasha" <scironi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Incredible. It looks as though fundamentalist christians have "evolved"
the ability to see into the future. They can tell that every single
fetus will come to term. No possibility of a miscarriage, defects,
mother on crack/smoking/drinking...nope, every baby to be is perfect.
Essentially, the law is going to state that a person can be convicted
of murdering someone who may or may not eventually exist. Brilliant.
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24 Feb 2006 04:22:06 AM |
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The Georgia legislature should take matters one step further; killing only the pre-born child at any stage should also constitute homicide. <<
Only if it's White.
In other cases, the female gestating unit in question should receive a
small stipend to encourage early termination of said parasite.
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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17 Feb 2006 08:29:44 AM |
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In article <Oq6dnW0Uf5HQj2neRVn-qA@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
The Georgia legislature should take matters one step further; killing only
the pre-born child at any stage should also constitute homicide.
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/0214metlegabortion.html
Bill makes killing a pregnant woman at any stage a double slaying
Pregnant women should also buy two tickets when they fly in airplanes,
and they each get two votes, and they can use the carpool lanes
whenever they like, and of course they should not work because that
would violate all sorts of child labor laws.
We can play this game, too, fucktard.
-chib
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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16 Feb 2006 08:22:33 AM |
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Insane hypocrite "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Oq6dnW0Uf5HQj2neRVn-qA@giganews.com...
The Georgia legislature should take matters one step further; killing only
the pre-born child at any stage should also constitute homicide.
This, from the loon who openly and regularly advocates genocide.
LC~ Troll on, IBen.
"What's the story with those dots in the middle of the forehead? Some say
it's a symbol of marriage, others say it signifies a willingness to engage
in anal sex.
I say kill 'em all, and let God sort 'em out."
From: "LC ( lappcatt )" <LCisnot@bluebottle.com> aka "J Young's" latest
sockpuppet.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: about those dots
Date: 6 Feb 2006 21:19:28 -0800
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16 Feb 2006 01:56:39 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
The Georgia legislature should take matters one step further; killing only
the pre-born child at any stage should also constitute homicide.
But then you'll become a murderer.
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rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "owl" |
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17 Feb 2006 02:00:24 AM |
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Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
All part of their plot to instigate Gestation Slavery.
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:Oq6dnW0Uf5HQj2neRVn-qA@giganews.com...
The Georgia legislature should take matters one step further; killing only
the pre-born child at any stage should also constitute homicide.
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/0214metlegabortion.html
Bill makes killing a pregnant woman at any stage a double slaying
A woman uses a test at home and finds that she is pregnant. Later in the
day, she is shot to death. Has one person been killed - or two?
That question is one Georgia lawmakers are likely to debate soon.
Bills in the House and headed for the Senate would change Georgia's
feticide
laws to allow for the prosecution of anyone who causes the death of an
unborn child, regardless of the stage of pregnancy.
"I consider a fetus to be a person, and you're killing two people," said
Sen. Renee Unterman (R-Buford), who plans to push a Senate bill aimed at
changing the state's feticide laws. "So you should be punished for killing
two people."
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24 Feb 2006 02:56:12 AM |
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"owl" <owl_1971.spamersTonguesAreForToiletPaper@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
The Catholic church already calls it a mortal sin.
All part of their plot to instigate Gestation Slavery.
Ah yes, the "enslave women" conspiracy theory.. an overused strawman.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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24 Feb 2006 10:17:25 AM |
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Dutch wrote:
"owl" <owl_1971.spamersTonguesAreForToiletPaper@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
The Catholic church already calls it a mortal sin.
Why should anyone else care what the Catholic church thinks is and is
not moral. Its only the opinions of the chruch's hierarchy anyway, and
is completely disconnected with reality.
All part of their plot to instigate Gestation Slavery.
Ah yes, the "enslave women" conspiracy theory.. an overused strawman.
Actually, it is more like the Catholic church wants to enslave men and
women. An objective and detacted viewing of their policies and history
and actions shows this.
Besides, they do want to enslave women, remove their voice from public
life and government, and relegate them to being "baby machines" and
"homemakers" without any hope or chance to make something of
themselves, and thus make them completely dependent on the "man of the
house".
There is no reason why anyone should have any respect for the Catholic
chruch, or listen to them on anything.
Mark Sebree
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24 Feb 2006 02:47:45 PM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Dutch wrote:
"owl" <owl_1971.spamersTonguesAreForToiletPaper@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:NcOdnTdZ44x7HGjenZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com...
Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
The Catholic church already calls it a mortal sin.
Why should anyone else care what the Catholic church thinks is and is
not moral. Its only the opinions of the chruch's hierarchy anyway, and
is completely disconnected with reality.
I agree, which means that the Catholic church and the church of the a.a.
pro-choice good squad have something in common.
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24 Feb 2006 03:12:08 PM |
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Dutch wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Dutch wrote:
"owl" <owl_1971.spamersTonguesAreForToiletPaper@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:NcOdnTdZ44x7HGjenZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com...
Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
The Catholic church already calls it a mortal sin.
Why should anyone else care what the Catholic church thinks is and is
not moral. Its only the opinions of the chruch's hierarchy anyway, and
is completely disconnected with reality.
I agree, which means that the Catholic church and the church of the a.a.
pro-choice good squad have something in common.
How could they have anything in common, since the Catholic Church
exists and the "church of the a.a. pro-choice good squad" doesn't? And
what is the "church of the a.a. pro-choice good squad" supposed to be
anyway, besides a product of your fevered imagination? I have never
heard of it, nor do I think anyone else has.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Dutch" |
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24 Feb 2006 03:40:08 PM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote
Dutch wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
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Dutch wrote:
"owl" <owl_1971.spamersTonguesAreForToiletPaper@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:NcOdnTdZ44x7HGjenZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com...
Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
The Catholic church already calls it a mortal sin.
Why should anyone else care what the Catholic church thinks is and is
not moral. Its only the opinions of the chruch's hierarchy anyway, and
is completely disconnected with reality.
I agree, which means that the Catholic church and the church of the a.a.
pro-choice good squad have something in common.
How could they have anything in common, since the Catholic Church
exists and the "church of the a.a. pro-choice good squad" doesn't?
They both exist.
And
what is the "church of the a.a. pro-choice good squad" supposed to be
anyway, besides a product of your fevered imagination? I have never
heard of it, nor do I think anyone else has.
It is a group of individuals who a) belief that abortion ought to be
entirely woman's choice, and b) concoct arguments of various kinds to
promote the notion that an abortion is a routine, morally insignificant
event involving only the mother, and c) subscribe to the principle that if
they 1) repeat such arguments often enough, and 2) hurl enough verbal abuse
at anyone who challenges them, that they can prevail.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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24 Feb 2006 03:58:13 PM |
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Dutch wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote
Dutch wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1140797845.582712.138040@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Dutch wrote:
"owl" <owl_1971.spamersTonguesAreForToiletPaper@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:NcOdnTdZ44x7HGjenZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com...
Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
The Catholic church already calls it a mortal sin.
Why should anyone else care what the Catholic church thinks is and is
not moral. Its only the opinions of the chruch's hierarchy anyway, and
is completely disconnected with reality.
I agree, which means that the Catholic church and the church of the a.a.
pro-choice good squad have something in common.
How could they have anything in common, since the Catholic Church
exists and the "church of the a.a. pro-choice good squad" doesn't?
They both exist.
I suspect that the second one only exists in your mind. I have seen no
evidence that the second one even exists.
And
what is the "church of the a.a. pro-choice good squad" supposed to be
anyway, besides a product of your fevered imagination? I have never
heard of it, nor do I think anyone else has.
It is a group of individuals who a) belief that abortion ought to be
entirely woman's choice,
Who else should be able to make that choice, and why? Who decides is
the woman and that person disagree, and why? I have never seen anyone
that thinks that it should not be the woman's choice, or that it should
be an agreement between two or more people answer this question.
and b) concoct arguments of various kinds to
promote the notion that an abortion is a routine, morally insignificant
event involving only the mother,
Abortion is routine and safe, provably safer than continuing the
pregnancy. And for most women, it is morally insignificant. And it
only involves the woman that is pregnant. You do not get to decide the
morals of other people, and you do not get to impose your morals onto
other people.
and c) subscribe to the principle that if
they 1) repeat such arguments often enough, and 2) hurl enough verbal abuse
at anyone who challenges them, that they can prevail.
Those last to are generally the tactics of anti-choice advocates.
Therefore, your so-called "church" is a figment of your imagination,
and does not exist.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Dutch" |
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24 Feb 2006 06:02:35 PM |
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"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1140818293.605395.253300@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
Dutch wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote
Dutch wrote:
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1140797845.582712.138040@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Dutch wrote:
"owl" <owl_1971.spamersTonguesAreForToiletPaper@hotmail.com> wrote
in
message news:NcOdnTdZ44x7HGjenZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com...
Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
The Catholic church already calls it a mortal sin.
Why should anyone else care what the Catholic church thinks is and
is
not moral. Its only the opinions of the chruch's hierarchy anyway,
and
is completely disconnected with reality.
I agree, which means that the Catholic church and the church of the
a.a.
pro-choice good squad have something in common.
How could they have anything in common, since the Catholic Church
exists and the "church of the a.a. pro-choice good squad" doesn't?
They both exist.
I suspect that the second one only exists in your mind. I have seen no
evidence that the second one even exists.
Yes you have.
And
what is the "church of the a.a. pro-choice good squad" supposed to be
anyway, besides a product of your fevered imagination? I have never
heard of it, nor do I think anyone else has.
It is a group of individuals who a) belief that abortion ought to be
entirely woman's choice,
Who else should be able to make that choice, and why?
I wasn't arguing the point, I was describing the credo of the goon squad.
Who decides is
the woman and that person disagree, and why? I have never seen anyone
that thinks that it should not be the woman's choice, or that it should
be an agreement between two or more people answer this question.
and b) concoct arguments of various kinds to
promote the notion that an abortion is a routine, morally insignificant
event involving only the mother,
Abortion is routine and safe, provably safer than continuing the
pregnancy. And for most women, it is morally insignificant. And it
only involves the woman that is pregnant. You do not get to decide the
morals of other people, and you do not get to impose your morals onto
other people.
I'm not attempting to impose morals on anyone, that is a good example of one
of the good squad disinformation tactics. For your information, morals are
*not* a private matter, they exist by consensus. Cheating, dishonesty,
acting unethically, hurting others, none of those moral issues can be chosen
by people without them being condemned by society and/or prosecuted. So
start your goon rehabilitation by dropping the pretense that this is about
"imposition", it's not.
and c) subscribe to the principle that if
they 1) repeat such arguments often enough, and 2) hurl enough verbal
abuse
at anyone who challenges them, that they can prevail.
Those last to are generally the tactics of anti-choice advocates.
Not true, I offer BOB as my evidence. He has responded to me a couple of
dezen times and every single time he has offered not a single substantial
argument, every last comment has been a personal insult. Ray Fischer is
slightly better, but every reply contains several insults.
Therefore, your so-called "church" is a figment of your imagination,
and does not exist.
It exists and is thriving on this newsgroup. You are firmly in denial.
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24 Feb 2006 02:54:33 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:47:45 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Dutch"
<no@email.com>
the church of the a.a.
pro-choice good squad
No such thing exists, christstain.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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24 Feb 2006 06:36:25 PM |
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In article <11vtih8f35ndk09@news.supernews.com>,
"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote:
"owl" <owl_1971.spamersTonguesAreForToiletPaper@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:NcOdnTdZ44x7HGjenZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com...
Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
The Catholic church already calls it a mortal sin.
All part of their plot to instigate Gestation Slavery.
Ah yes, the "enslave women" conspiracy theory.. an overused strawman.
that's the company line from the mispogynist side, anyway.
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| User: "Dutch" |
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24 Feb 2006 06:47:04 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote
"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote:
Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
The Catholic church already calls it a mortal sin.
All part of their plot to instigate Gestation Slavery.
Ah yes, the "enslave women" conspiracy theory.. an overused strawman.
that's the company line from the mispogynist side, anyway.
That is "pro-choice goon" strawman used to divert attention from the real
issues, the moral and legal status of fetuses vs their mothers. The
interests of society as a whole are also relevant.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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24 Feb 2006 06:58:16 PM |
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In article <11vva85oej6ph7a@news.supernews.com>,
"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote
"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote:
Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
The Catholic church already calls it a mortal sin.
All part of their plot to instigate Gestation Slavery.
Ah yes, the "enslave women" conspiracy theory.. an overused strawman.
that's the company line from the mispogynist side, anyway.
That is "pro-choice goon" strawman used to divert attention from the real
issues
that is the anti-choice, misogynist statement from a creep who thinks
women are no better than breeding stock.
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| User: "Dutch" |
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24 Feb 2006 07:54:27 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote
"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote
"Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote:
Next, they will outlaw contraception, as a 1/2 slaying.
The Catholic church already calls it a mortal sin.
All part of their plot to instigate Gestation Slavery.
Ah yes, the "enslave women" conspiracy theory.. an overused strawman.
that's the company line from the mispogynist side, anyway.
That is "pro-choice goon" strawman used to divert attention from the real
issues
that is the anti-choice, misogynist statement from a creep who thinks
women are no better than breeding stock.
Another "pro-choice goon" strawman used to divert attention from the real
issues.
For one thing, *****-for-brains, I'm not against choice, I'm against
"pro-choice goon" tactics.
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