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User: "Ray Fischer"
Date: 18 Feb 2004 11:33:20 PM
Object: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war
Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.
Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.
The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Bill, The Avender"

Title: Re: Iraq war tutu on Desmond Bishop. 19 Feb 2004 04:55:06 PM
<snip>
Really, now, wouldn't _this_ be a *MUCH* more interesting conversation
starter? :-?
;-)
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L8r,
Bill
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"Is not the epitome of narcissism to
quote one's self?" - Me
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User: "Justin_Martyr2000"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 19 Feb 2004 06:08:15 AM
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm

Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?
.
User: "gammajoe8"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 19 Feb 2004 10:07:21 PM
"Justin_Martyr2000" <CSU495@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message

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Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?

From a country that wanted "no foreign involvement," we have become the
world police. If this is our criteria for going to war, we will never be at
peace.
--
#948
"What we fear most is that economic power would try to seize democratic
power." - James Madison
.

User: "Brian Westley"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 19 Feb 2004 09:16:32 AM
(Justin_Martyr2000) writes:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm

Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?

Where's your moral outrage over Uganda?
---
Merlyn LeRoy
.
User: "Justin_Martyr2000"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 19 Feb 2004 10:56:33 PM
Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in message news:<4034d350$0$162$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com>...

CSU495@Hotmail.com (Justin_Martyr2000) writes:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?


Where's your moral outrage over Uganda?

---
Merlyn LeRoy

Stay on topic, Merlyn. No red herrings allowed past this point.
.
User: "David Barnes"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 19 Feb 2004 11:13:46 PM
In article <51ab5982.0402192056.56fa0a7c@posting.google.com>,
Justin_Martyr2000 <CSU495@Hotmail.com> wrote:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in message
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CSU495@Hotmail.com (Justin_Martyr2000) writes:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?


Where's your moral outrage over Uganda?

---
Merlyn LeRoy



Stay on topic, Merlyn. No red herrings allowed past this point.

That isnıt a red herring at all. And it is on topic. Stop with the
control tactics.
.
User: "Justin_Martyr2000"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 20 Feb 2004 06:49:49 AM
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<190220042113469946%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...

In article <51ab5982.0402192056.56fa0a7c@posting.google.com>,
Justin_Martyr2000 <CSU495@Hotmail.com> wrote:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in message
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CSU495@Hotmail.com (Justin_Martyr2000) writes:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?


Where's your moral outrage over Uganda?

---
Merlyn LeRoy



Stay on topic, Merlyn. No red herrings allowed past this point.


That isnıt a red herring at all. And it is on topic. Stop with the
control tactics.

No, David. It is not on topic. The topic is Desmond Tutu; not me.
Nice try though.
.
User: "robpar"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 20 Feb 2004 09:26:22 AM
On 20 Feb 2004 04:49:49 -0800,
(Justin_Martyr2000)
wrote:

David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<190220042113469946%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...

In article <51ab5982.0402192056.56fa0a7c@posting.google.com>,
Justin_Martyr2000 <

> wrote:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in message
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(Justin_Martyr2000) writes:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
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Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?


Where's your moral outrage over Uganda?

---
Merlyn LeRoy



Stay on topic, Merlyn. No red herrings allowed past this point.


That isnıt a red herring at all. And it is on topic. Stop with the
control tactics.




No, David. It is not on topic. The topic is Desmond Tutu; not me.
Nice try though.

The topic is your "moral" outrage at Tutu criticism of Bush/Blair.
Where was your "moral" outrage when Blacks in South Africa were not
allowed to vote? As to the other hell holes around the world, do you
advocate Blair/Bush sending more British and American troop to kill
the people in those hell holes, and die there? How many Brits have
died so far? Over 500 young Americans have died, how many Iraqi
civilians have been killed? Do you really feel safer? How many Iraqi
children are now willing to die to kill more Allied soldiers to avenge
the death in their family?
.. B&B fucked up. Tutu and the Dixie Chicks are right. As a Texan I am
ashamed that Bush claims to be a Texan.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 20 Feb 2004 09:30:12 AM
"robpar" <robpar@deleteairmail.net> wrote in message
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On 20 Feb 2004 04:49:49 -0800,

(Justin_Martyr2000)
wrote:

David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:<190220042113469946%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...

In article <51ab5982.0402192056.56fa0a7c@posting.google.com>,
Justin_Martyr2000 <

> wrote:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in message
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(Justin_Martyr2000) writes:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
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Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner

Desmond

Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much

more

unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime

Minister

Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right

to

attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam

was

busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?


Where's your moral outrage over Uganda?

---
Merlyn LeRoy



Stay on topic, Merlyn. No red herrings allowed past this point.


That isnıt a red herring at all. And it is on topic. Stop with the
control tactics.




No, David. It is not on topic. The topic is Desmond Tutu; not me.
Nice try though.


The topic is your "moral" outrage at Tutu criticism of Bush/Blair.
Where was your "moral" outrage when Blacks in South Africa were not
allowed to vote? As to the other hell holes around the world, do you
advocate Blair/Bush sending more British and American troop to kill
the people in those hell holes, and die there? How many Brits have
died so far? Over 500 young Americans have died, how many Iraqi
civilians have been killed? Do you really feel safer? How many Iraqi
children are now willing to die to kill more Allied soldiers to avenge
the death in their family?
. B&B fucked up. Tutu and the Dixie Chicks are right. As a Texan I am
ashamed that Bush claims to be a Texan.

Do I feel safer? Yea, I think we are safer with Saddam gone and his sons.
If you don't like Bush and you are ashamed...leave.
If Bush wipes out Kerry during the elections, be prepared for 4 more years
and the fight against terrorism will continue.
If Democrats win, they will hand over anything that terrorist want.
.
User: "David Barnes"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 20 Feb 2004 10:08:11 AM
In article <T-CdnRcDp5TSuqvdRVn-hg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"robpar" <robpar@deleteairmail.net> wrote in message
news:403622cb.3775857@news.airmail.net...

On 20 Feb 2004 04:49:49 -0800,

(Justin_Martyr2000)
wrote:

David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:<190220042113469946%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...

In article <51ab5982.0402192056.56fa0a7c@posting.google.com>,
Justin_Martyr2000 <

> wrote:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in message
news:<4034d350$0$162$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com>...

(Justin_Martyr2000) writes:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner

Desmond

Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much

more

unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime

Minister

Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right

to

attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam

was

busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?


Where's your moral outrage over Uganda?

---
Merlyn LeRoy



Stay on topic, Merlyn. No red herrings allowed past this point.


That isnıt a red herring at all. And it is on topic. Stop with the
control tactics.




No, David. It is not on topic. The topic is Desmond Tutu; not me.
Nice try though.


The topic is your "moral" outrage at Tutu criticism of Bush/Blair.
Where was your "moral" outrage when Blacks in South Africa were not
allowed to vote? As to the other hell holes around the world, do you
advocate Blair/Bush sending more British and American troop to kill
the people in those hell holes, and die there? How many Brits have
died so far? Over 500 young Americans have died, how many Iraqi
civilians have been killed? Do you really feel safer? How many Iraqi
children are now willing to die to kill more Allied soldiers to avenge
the death in their family?
. B&B fucked up. Tutu and the Dixie Chicks are right. As a Texan I am
ashamed that Bush claims to be a Texan.


Do I feel safer? Yea, I think we are safer with Saddam gone and his sons.
If you don't like Bush and you are ashamed...leave.

You leave. It is you who supports Saddam Husseinıs tactics. He was
not much different than Bush, and Iraq was similar to the way Bush
would like to see America. A religious run country with few personal
freedoms and secret government action without the right to a trial or
lawyer.

If Bush wipes out Kerry during the elections, be prepared for 4 more years
and the fight against terrorism will continue.

Be prepared for four more years of repression and a poor economy, you
mean. The good news is a Democrats will come in and fix things, as
they always have. Of course, it will mean higher taxes to pay for the
Bush fiasco and they were be blamed for that, but Democrats are a
responsible bunch and will accept the lies.

If Democrats win, they will hand over anything that terrorist want.

The terrorism began under Bush. It was funded by Bush/Reagan. Clinton
controlled it well, you moron.
.
User: "Justin_Martyr2000"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 21 Feb 2004 06:38:39 AM
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<200220040808117527%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...

attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam

was
You leave. It is you who supports Saddam Husseinıs tactics. He was
not much different than Bush, and Iraq was similar to the way Bush
would like to see America. A religious run country with few personal
freedoms and secret government action without the right to a trial or
lawyer.

If Bush wipes out Kerry during the elections, be prepared for 4 more years
and the fight against terrorism will continue.


Be prepared for four more years of repression and a poor economy, you
mean. The good news is a Democrats will come in and fix things, as
they always have. Of course, it will mean higher taxes to pay for the
Bush fiasco and they were be blamed for that, but Democrats are a
responsible bunch and will accept the lies.

If Democrats win, they will hand over anything that terrorist want.


The terrorism began under Bush. It was funded by Bush/Reagan. Clinton
controlled it well, you moron.

*Note to Osprey*
Let it go. It's not worth it.
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 22 Feb 2004 12:58:33 AM
(Justin_Martyr2000) wrote in message news:<51ab5982.0402210438.4b270bf8@posting.google.com>...

David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<200220040808117527%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...

attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam

was
You leave. It is you who supports Saddam Husseinıs tactics. He was
not much different than Bush, and Iraq was similar to the way Bush
would like to see America. A religious run country with few personal
freedoms and secret government action without the right to a trial or
lawyer.

If Bush wipes out Kerry during the elections, be prepared for 4 more years
and the fight against terrorism will continue.


Be prepared for four more years of repression and a poor economy, you
mean. The good news is a Democrats will come in and fix things, as
they always have. Of course, it will mean higher taxes to pay for the
Bush fiasco and they were be blamed for that, but Democrats are a
responsible bunch and will accept the lies.

If Democrats win, they will hand over anything that terrorist want.


The terrorism began under Bush. It was funded by Bush/Reagan. Clinton
controlled it well, you moron.



*Note to Osprey*

Let it go. It's not worth it.

You are absolutely right
.
User: "David Barnes"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 23 Feb 2004 09:39:46 PM
In article <8912d58d.0402212258.287e10fa@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

CSU495@Hotmail.com (Justin_Martyr2000) wrote in message
news:<51ab5982.0402210438.4b270bf8@posting.google.com>...

David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<200220040808117527%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...

attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when

Saddam

was
You leave. It is you who supports Saddam Husseinıs tactics. He was
not much different than Bush, and Iraq was similar to the way Bush
would like to see America. A religious run country with few personal
freedoms and secret government action without the right to a trial or
lawyer.

If Bush wipes out Kerry during the elections, be prepared for 4 more
years
and the fight against terrorism will continue.


Be prepared for four more years of repression and a poor economy, you
mean. The good news is a Democrats will come in and fix things, as
they always have. Of course, it will mean higher taxes to pay for the
Bush fiasco and they were be blamed for that, but Democrats are a
responsible bunch and will accept the lies.

If Democrats win, they will hand over anything that terrorist want.


The terrorism began under Bush. It was funded by Bush/Reagan. Clinton
controlled it well, you moron.



*Note to Osprey*

Let it go. It's not worth it.



You are absolutely right

Translation: Heıs right and neither of us have a response.
.




User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 20 Feb 2004 12:33:04 PM
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"robpar" <robpar@deleteairmail.net> wrote in message

. B&B fucked up. Tutu and the Dixie Chicks are right. As a Texan I am
ashamed that Bush claims to be a Texan.


Do I feel safer? Yea, I think we are safer with Saddam gone and his sons.

And just think how much safer we all would be with you and Bush gone.

If you don't like Bush and you are ashamed...leave.

There's a better plan. Make Bush leave.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "SMChristenson"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 21 Feb 2004 09:46:15 PM
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:33:04 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:

Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"robpar" <robpar@deleteairmail.net> wrote in message


. B&B fucked up. Tutu and the Dixie Chicks are right. As a Texan I am
ashamed that Bush claims to be a Texan.

Don't be. People smart enough to matter realize they moved from
Connecticut and bought that ranch as a backdrop so they could "do manly
things" for the TV cameras.
.







User: "Lawrence E. McKnight"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 19 Feb 2004 07:32:42 PM
On 19 Feb 2004 15:16:32 GMT, Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote:

CSU495@Hotmail.com (Justin_Martyr2000) writes:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?


Where's your moral outrage over Uganda?

Where is the moral outrage over Zimbabwe? Oh, no oil, never mind.


---
Merlyn LeRoy

-
Larry
(this space unintentionally left blank .....
make obvious deletion for email
.


User: "Bob SD"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 19 Feb 2004 09:17:07 AM
(Justin_Martyr2000) wrote in
news:51ab5982.0402190408.7e129f6c@posting.google.com:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime
Minister Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm




Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?

What does that have to do with the illegal invasion of Iraq by the US?
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 19 Feb 2004 10:37:55 PM
Justin_Martyr2000 <CSU495@Hotmail.com> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?

Back when the US was supplying Saddam with the weapons he was using to
kill Kurds and attack Iran?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Steve Hayes"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 20 Feb 2004 07:31:41 AM
On 19 Feb 2004 04:08:15 -0800,
(Justin_Martyr2000) wrote:

Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?

Exactly where it has always been.
Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
.

User: "Steve Hayes"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 20 Feb 2004 07:31:42 AM
On 19 Feb 2004 04:08:15 -0800,
(Justin_Martyr2000) wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm

Where was this communistic moron's moral outrage when Saddam was
busy running the kind of society that he would refuse to live in?

Exactly where it has always been.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
.


User: "John Norris"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 19 Feb 2004 03:19:41 PM
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm

Everytime I get depressed over the sorry excuses for ministers the
churches have today, I can remember Desmond Tutu. He is one of a very
small number of clergy actually living and doing what their scriptures
says they should.
JOhnN
.
User: "Justin_Martyr2000"

Title: Re: Bishop Desmond Tutu on Iraq war 19 Feb 2004 10:28:04 PM
(John Norris) wrote in message news:<d43864a.0402191319.56101b3@posting.google.com>...

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c11hqv$rl6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Former archbishop of Cape Town and Nobel peace prize winner Desmond
Tutu says the "immoral" war in Iraq has left the world a much more
unsafe place.

Desmond Tutu urged US President George Bush and British Prime Minister
Tony Blair to admit they had made a mistake.

The archbishop also demanded to know whether it had been right to
attack Iraq in defiance of international law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3494345.stm


Everytime I get depressed over the sorry excuses for ministers the
churches have today, I can remember Desmond Tutu. He is one of a very
small number of clergy actually living and doing what their scriptures
says they should.

JOhnN

Oh yeah, like you spend a lot of time agonizing over the sorry state
of ministers today. Right.
.



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