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User: "TB Ownaz wazzup!!!"
Date: 23 Jul 2003 11:12:43 PM
Object: Black people should be thankful for slavery
Today, I was driving down street and it dawned on me that if we had not
been slaves in the US we would (black people) have been in africa
somplace dancing in grass skirts and bushes. Now, I don't want to give
crackers props for killing millions of blacks but I have to say thanx to
the stupid Africans who put my ancestors on the boat. It WAS the best
thing that EVERY happened to MY people. To prove my point, look at the
blacks in Africa now, they have nothing, they are worth nothing, except
for the Kings. And to honor thier rule of all the damn bushes and
insects, they get to boink the town goat. If I were in Africa now I
would be runing for my lives in fear of being slaughtered. TO diry,
uncivilized, ineducated bastards who live in Africa (the mother land) keep
it and don't let the bed bugs bite.
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User: "The other Donald"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 24 Jul 2003 02:05:22 AM
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you need Jesus


No. He needs an enema.....
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User: "Omphalos"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 24 Jul 2003 10:37:28 PM
On Thu 24 Jul 2003 01:33:44a, "Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in
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Now, dont get me wrong, I for one am not for slavery, I am totally
against it.


If this is the case then you should be ***** at what happened and
seek some means of recompense. Not just "hakuna matata".

I have some questions to ask all of the blacks who read this. Tell me
if you can answer these questions for me. What about Black History
Month? Why is there a black history month, and not a white history
month?


I once *thought* (I grew up in an area where black people made up the
majority,
and I did not, so it only stayed at the level of conscious thought and
not spoken)
the same thing until I stepped back for a little perspective. (This will
also address
alot of your following statements.) You expect nothing to be shown for
such a gratuitous sin? Do you realize a good portion of America was
built off slaves' backs?
And they received no payment, not only that but they received a whole
lot of pain
and anguish, no rights or input to the country they were investing in
(albeit forced),
often times split from their families from slavery auctions. And there's
supposed to
be some big mystery as to why there is so much instability within many
black communities?
For God's sake look at the history! The biggest problem is America's
inability to
properly address and repent for it, there's not ONE single monument nor
has there
ever been a government apology from the white house. It's always "let's
look to
the future", well how about addressing the wound before trying to walk
it off.
This all only scratches the surface man, gain a little perspective eh?
Black history
month and all those other great achievements are stepping stones.
Germany has
thousands and thousands of monuments for what happened to the Jews,
THOUSANDS
and THOUSANDS.
Perspective.

The big difference is that everyone involved in slavery in the United
States is dead. Blacks have no excuse for their laziness. Slavery has been
gone for 140 years. Get the ***** over it.
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User: "Skrabble"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 24 Jul 2003 11:16:51 PM

I once *thought* (I grew up in an area where black people made up the
majority,
and I did not, so it only stayed at the level of conscious thought and
not spoken)
the same thing until I stepped back for a little perspective. (This will
also address
alot of your following statements.) You expect nothing to be shown for
such a gratuitous sin? Do you realize a good portion of America was
built off slaves' backs?
And they received no payment, not only that but they received a whole
lot of pain
and anguish, no rights or input to the country they were investing in
(albeit forced),
often times split from their families from slavery auctions. And there's
supposed to
be some big mystery as to why there is so much instability within many
black communities?
For God's sake look at the history! The biggest problem is America's
inability to
properly address and repent for it, there's not ONE single monument nor
has there
ever been a government apology from the white house. It's always "let's
look to
the future", well how about addressing the wound before trying to walk
it off.
This all only scratches the surface man, gain a little perspective eh?
Black history
month and all those other great achievements are stepping stones.
Germany has
thousands and thousands of monuments for what happened to the Jews,
THOUSANDS
and THOUSANDS.
Perspective.


The big difference is that everyone involved in slavery in the United
States is dead. Blacks have no excuse for their laziness. Slavery has been
gone for 140 years. Get the ***** over it.

It's called *inheritance*, pause to actually think about it for a half
second
before tryin to crack on me.
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User: "jeff"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 26 Jul 2003 09:48:55 PM
Slavery may have been abolished 140 years ago but the lingering
brutality,
segregation and denial of basic human rights continues till this day.
Why no public admission that the past was wrong? Why no monuments to
the suffering of millions? Without reconciliation it will always be a
sore point.
American blacks are slowly becoming full fledged members of society.
Slowly. Every so often some nasty scenario surfaces about a black
celebrity ruffling feathers because he or she is simply seeking out
what any white person would obtain without question.
Tiger Woods' go at the Masters exposed the fact that that there are
still white's only golf clubs around.
People don't get over things that continue to haunt their lives.
A black walks in to a group of whites and the whole tone of
conversation changes.
Blacks get different service over a counter.
(not everywhere and not all situations but prevalent enough for you to
reckognize the truth in it)
A black man is more likely to be pulled over, held without being
formally arrested, and beaten in custody in the States today than any
other race.
The Rodney King mess showed the history of LA police racism and
brutality. It also showed the racism of a random selection of
supposedly upstanding citizens.
" Rodney King was controlling that beating.." one of the middle aged
witnesses said with a grin after seeing the tape.
When the black jury aquitted O.J., they were so full of poison that
justice meant O.J. walks no matter what. Any surprise? (One back at
ya.)
Don't tell people to get over the past when it's still haunting their
present.
Bill Clinton is the most disappointing President in the history of
America.
Here was a guy who suddenly had trillions of dollars at his disposal
with the fall of the Soviet empire.( that was the size of the budget
for defending Western Europe)
Wouldn't some of that money have gone a long way toward establishing
long reaching programs to rebuild inner cities and helping people
break the cycle of violence poverty and despair? Damn right it
would've!
That's enough cash to make a lot of change.
Instead you got more of the same. Very little changed and the spin
doctors quickly focussed attention on other phony "hot-spots".
Had to keep up the embargo on Cuba- big bad scary Cuba. (Funny how
they've managed to achieve a higher literacy rate than the U.S. on a
shoestring.)
The so called conspiracy theory regarding the disproportionate number
of blacks in service during Viet Nam is a chilling thought. It seems
that much more real when you throw in the fact that the CIA really
were selling crack in the ghettos of America.
If there really is such a cynical element still alive in government
today then the future looks bleak.
Again don't tell people to get over history when they are faced with
overwhelming negative odds as a result of that unreconciled history.
Considering all that was and all that is, it is amazing just how many
blacks do achieve success, period.
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User: "Brave New Worm"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 27 Jul 2003 07:23:31 PM
"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in news:NPZUa.112288$TJ.6785251
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Bill Clinton is the most disappointing President in the history of
America.


I agree with this.

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User: "Brave New Worm"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 27 Jul 2003 10:42:07 PM
"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in news:hm_Ua.112299$TJ.6788609
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Bill Clinton is the most disappointing President in the history of
America.


I agree with this.


Bush is very pleasing if you're into genocide.


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Oh. Not really.
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User: "Skrabble"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 01:10:49 AM
the genocide part, not sure where you're comin from there
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"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in news:hm_Ua.112299$TJ.6788609
@twister.austin.rr.com:

Bill Clinton is the most disappointing President in the history of
America.


I agree with this.


Bush is very pleasing if you're into genocide.


CAUTION: An intelligent statement has been made.
Oh. Not really.
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User: "Brave New Worm"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 01:17:01 AM
"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in news:J73Va.113129$TJ.6838658
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the genocide part, not sure where you're comin from there

You might want to watch the news sometime.

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"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in news:hm_Ua.112299$TJ.6788609
@twister.austin.rr.com:

Bill Clinton is the most disappointing President in the history

of

America.


I agree with this.


Bush is very pleasing if you're into genocide.


CAUTION: An intelligent statement has been made.
Oh. Not really.
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What do you refute?

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"[The artwork of Andrew Penland] is REAL...what I mean by "real" is

that

it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never

otherwise

occurred." --Full Force Frank




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"[The artwork of Andrew Penland] is REAL...what I mean by "real" is that
it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never otherwise
occurred." --Full Force Frank
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User: "Skrabble"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 12:13:55 PM

the genocide part, not sure where you're comin from there



You might want to watch the news sometime.

naw, you might want to look up the word genocide.
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User: "Brave New Worm"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 12:44:10 PM
"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in news:nRcVa.117297$TJ.6895998
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the genocide part, not sure where you're comin from there



You might want to watch the news sometime.


naw, you might want to look up the word genocide.

Right after you study the effects of irradiating two entire countries.

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User: "Skrabble"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 01:32:33 PM
v. ir·ra·di·at·ed, ir·ra·di·at·ing, ir·ra·di·ates
v. tr.
1..
1.. To expose to radiation.
2.. To treat with radiation: irradiate farm produce so as to destroy
bacteria.
2.. To shed light on; illuminate.
3.. To manifest in a manner suggesting the emission of light; radiate:
irradiate goodness.
v. intr. Archaic
1.. To send forth rays; radiate.
2.. To become radiant.
irradiating
Irradiate \Ir*ra"di*ate\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Irradiated; p. pr. & vb. n.
Irradiating.] [L. irradiatus, p. p. of irradiate. See In- in, and Radiate.]
1. To throw rays of light upon; to illuminate; to brighten; to adorn with
luster.
Thy smile irradiates yon blue fields. --Sir W. Jones.
2. To enlighten intellectually; to illuminate; as, to irradiate the
mind. --Bp. Bull.
3. To animate by heat or light. --Sir M. Hale.
4. To radiate, shed, or diffuse.
come again?
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"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in news:nRcVa.117297$TJ.6895998
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the genocide part, not sure where you're comin from there



You might want to watch the news sometime.


naw, you might want to look up the word genocide.



Right after you study the effects of irradiating two entire countries.



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User: "Bolo The Stinky Clown"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 02:36:54 PM
"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in
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v. ir·ra·di·at·ed, ir·ra·di·at·ing, ir·ra·di·ates
v. tr.
1..
1.. To expose to radiation.

Very good! Let's see if you can put one and one together now...

2.. To treat with radiation: irradiate farm produce so as to
destroy
bacteria.
2.. To shed light on; illuminate.
3.. To manifest in a manner suggesting the emission of light;
radiate:
irradiate goodness.

v. intr. Archaic
1.. To send forth rays; radiate.
2.. To become radiant.
irradiating

Irradiate \Ir*ra"di*ate\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Irradiated; p. pr. & vb.
n. Irradiating.] [L. irradiatus, p. p. of irradiate. See In- in, and
Radiate.] 1. To throw rays of light upon; to illuminate; to brighten;
to adorn with luster.

Thy smile irradiates yon blue fields. --Sir W. Jones.

2. To enlighten intellectually; to illuminate; as, to irradiate the
mind. --Bp. Bull.

3. To animate by heat or light. --Sir M. Hale.

4. To radiate, shed, or diffuse.




come again?

Erm, what don't you understand, at this point? Are you as ignorant as you
appear? While trying to appear intelligent, I mean?



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the genocide part, not sure where you're comin from there



You might want to watch the news sometime.


naw, you might want to look up the word genocide.



Right after you study the effects of irradiating two entire
countries.



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that it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never
otherwise occurred." --Full Force Frank




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"[The artwork of Andrew Penland] is REAL...what I mean by "real" is that
it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never otherwise
occurred." --Full Force Frank
.
User: "Skrabble"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 03:42:40 PM

1.. To expose to radiation.




Very good! Let's see if you can put one and one together now...

this qualifies as genocide?????
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User: "Bolo The Stinky Clown"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 03:43:58 PM
"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in news:4VfVa.114542$XV.6476204
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1.. To expose to radiation.




Very good! Let's see if you can put one and one together now...


this qualifies as genocide?????

Irraditating two entire countries?
To people familiar with the concept, yes. Yes it does.
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"[The artwork of Andrew Penland] is REAL...what I mean by "real" is that
it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never otherwise
occurred." --Full Force Frank
.
User: "Bolo The Stinky Clown"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 07:00:36 PM
"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in news:tAgVa.114596$XV.6479988
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They don't look too dead to me.

Yes, that's sort of the thing with radiation. Give them 10, 20, 30 years.
Islam is not compatible with the current world order.

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1.. To expose to radiation.




Very good! Let's see if you can put one and one together now...


this qualifies as genocide?????


Irraditating two entire countries?

To people familiar with the concept, yes. Yes it does.




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http://www.mp3.com/manticore
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http://www.mp3.com/measurerecs.

"[The artwork of Andrew Penland] is REAL...what I mean by "real" is

that

it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never

otherwise

occurred." --Full Force Frank




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"[The artwork of Andrew Penland] is REAL...what I mean by "real" is that
it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never otherwise
occurred." --Full Force Frank
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User: "phil ponder artists @easel.com"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 08:45:02 PM
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They don't look too dead to me.


Yes, that's sort of the thing with radiation. Give them 10, 20, 30 years.

Islam is not compatible with the current world order.

Mass murder via "Relgious zealotry" isn't compatible with anyone.
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User: "Bolo The Stinky Clown"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 09:17:24 PM
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They don't look too dead to me.


Yes, that's sort of the thing with radiation. Give them 10, 20, 30
years.

Islam is not compatible with the current world order.


Mass murder via "Relgious zealotry" isn't compatible with anyone.



You might want to hip Israel to that factoid.

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User: "Skrabble"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 08:06:31 PM
wow, you're all over the map man. So now it's a long term genocide?
How's he gonna get the ones here in america? Bounty hunters?
It was a lame statement to begin with, that's all I'm tryin to say.
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They don't look too dead to me.


Yes, that's sort of the thing with radiation. Give them 10, 20, 30 years.

Islam is not compatible with the current world order.


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1.. To expose to radiation.




Very good! Let's see if you can put one and one together now...


this qualifies as genocide?????


Irraditating two entire countries?

To people familiar with the concept, yes. Yes it does.




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"[The artwork of Andrew Penland] is REAL...what I mean by "real" is

that

it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never

otherwise

occurred." --Full Force Frank







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http://www.mp3.com/meterversusyard
http://www.mp3.com/highc
http://www.mp3.com/measurerecs.

"[The artwork of Andrew Penland] is REAL...what I mean by "real" is that
it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never otherwise
occurred." --Full Force Frank

.
User: "Bolo The Stinky Clown"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 09:30:41 PM
"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in news:lZkVa.114735$XV.6528761
@twister.austin.rr.com:

wow, you're all over the map man. So now it's a long term genocide?
How's he gonna get the ones here in america? Bounty hunters?
It was a lame statement to begin with, that's all I'm tryin to say.



Some day, when you mature, your head will dislodge from your *****.


mature response

On what, exactly, do you base your current stream of drivel?

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http://www.mp3.com/manticore
http://www.mp3.com/meterversusyard
http://www.mp3.com/highc
http://www.mp3.com/measurerecs.
"[The artwork of Andrew Penland] is REAL...what I mean by "real" is that
it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never otherwise
occurred." --Full Force Frank
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User: "Skrabble"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 09:49:19 PM

Some day, when you mature, your head will dislodge from your *****.


mature response



On what, exactly, do you base your current stream of drivel?

I don't know Bolo The Stinky Clown, or is it Brave New Worm, or
maybe one of the other 100 names you keep usin to stay out of people's
killfile?
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User: "Bolo The Stinky Clown"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 09:45:21 PM
"Skrabble" <skrabble@yegua.org> wrote in news:PglVa.114738$XV.6530050
@twister.austin.rr.com:

Some day, when you mature, your head will dislodge from your *****.


mature response



On what, exactly, do you base your current stream of drivel?


I don't know Bolo The Stinky Clown, or is it Brave New Worm, or
maybe one of the other 100 names you keep usin to stay out of people's
killfile?

Stupid people who don't know how to killfile effectively should be
sterilized. They should not be allowed on Usenet.


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http://www.mp3.com/gortician
Bass for your *****:
http://www.mp3.com/manticore
http://www.mp3.com/meterversusyard
http://www.mp3.com/highc
http://www.mp3.com/measurerecs.
"[The artwork of Andrew Penland] is REAL...what I mean by "real" is that
it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never otherwise
occurred." --Full Force Frank
.







User: "phil ponder artists @easel.com"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 03:43:16 PM
yes.. it got them to the most longed for country on the
planet and allows them to lie around the house getting
drunk smoking crack and grunting out other black bastards
for whites to support.
.









User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 27 Jul 2003 05:56:44 AM
(jeff) wrote in message news:<208989ee.0307261848.57e0675a@posting.google.com>...

Slavery may have been abolished 140 years ago but the lingering
brutality,
segregation and denial of basic human rights continues till this day.
Why no public admission that the past was wrong? Why no monuments to
the suffering of millions? Without reconciliation it will always be a
sore point.
American blacks are slowly becoming full fledged members of society.
Slowly. Every so often some nasty scenario surfaces about a black
celebrity ruffling feathers because he or she is simply seeking out
what any white person would obtain without question.
Tiger Woods' go at the Masters exposed the fact that that there are
still white's only golf clubs around.
People don't get over things that continue to haunt their lives.
A black walks in to a group of whites and the whole tone of
conversation changes.
Blacks get different service over a counter.
(not everywhere and not all situations but prevalent enough for you to
reckognize the truth in it)
A black man is more likely to be pulled over, held without being
formally arrested, and beaten in custody in the States today than any
other race.
The Rodney King mess showed the history of LA police racism and
brutality. It also showed the racism of a random selection of
supposedly upstanding citizens.
" Rodney King was controlling that beating.." one of the middle aged
witnesses said with a grin after seeing the tape.
When the black jury aquitted O.J., they were so full of poison that
justice meant O.J. walks no matter what. Any surprise? (One back at
ya.)
Don't tell people to get over the past when it's still haunting their
present.

Where is the outrage when a white cop is jumped and shot?
Where was the outrage when Reginald Denning was beat in the head with
a cynderblock?
As far as Rodney King goes, yes I think there was excessive force but
have you ever dealt with a person high on drugs? I have, and believe
me it is no picnic.
Amazing Rodney King ended right back in trouble too.
There is racism on all sides, no one is perfect.


Bill Clinton is the most disappointing President in the history of
America.
Here was a guy who suddenly had trillions of dollars at his disposal
with the fall of the Soviet empire.( that was the size of the budget
for defending Western Europe)
Wouldn't some of that money have gone a long way toward establishing
long reaching programs to rebuild inner cities and helping people
break the cycle of violence poverty and despair? Damn right it
would've!
That's enough cash to make a lot of change.
Instead you got more of the same. Very little changed and the spin
doctors quickly focussed attention on other phony "hot-spots".
Had to keep up the embargo on Cuba- big bad scary Cuba. (Funny how
they've managed to achieve a higher literacy rate than the U.S. on a
shoestring.)

The so called conspiracy theory regarding the disproportionate number
of blacks in service during Viet Nam is a chilling thought. It seems
that much more real when you throw in the fact that the CIA really
were selling crack in the ghettos of America.
If there really is such a cynical element still alive in government
today then the future looks bleak.

Again don't tell people to get over history when they are faced with
overwhelming negative odds as a result of that unreconciled history.
Considering all that was and all that is, it is amazing just how many
blacks do achieve success, period.

.
User: "Assassin"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 27 Jul 2003 04:06:25 PM
On 27 Jul 2003 03:56:44 -0700,
(osprey) with the
help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to
type out the following:

jeff.engerer@sympatico.ca (jeff) wrote in message news:<208989ee.0307261848.57e0675a@posting.google.com>...

Slavery may have been abolished 140 years ago but the lingering
brutality,
segregation and denial of basic human rights continues till this day.
Why no public admission that the past was wrong? Why no monuments to
the suffering of millions? Without reconciliation it will always be a
sore point.
American blacks are slowly becoming full fledged members of society.
Slowly. Every so often some nasty scenario surfaces about a black
celebrity ruffling feathers because he or she is simply seeking out
what any white person would obtain without question.
Tiger Woods' go at the Masters exposed the fact that that there are
still white's only golf clubs around.
People don't get over things that continue to haunt their lives.
A black walks in to a group of whites and the whole tone of
conversation changes.
Blacks get different service over a counter.
(not everywhere and not all situations but prevalent enough for you to
reckognize the truth in it)
A black man is more likely to be pulled over, held without being
formally arrested, and beaten in custody in the States today than any
other race.
The Rodney King mess showed the history of LA police racism and
brutality. It also showed the racism of a random selection of
supposedly upstanding citizens.
" Rodney King was controlling that beating.." one of the middle aged
witnesses said with a grin after seeing the tape.
When the black jury aquitted O.J., they were so full of poison that
justice meant O.J. walks no matter what. Any surprise? (One back at
ya.)
Don't tell people to get over the past when it's still haunting their
present.


Where is the outrage when a white cop is jumped and shot?

What planet are you from?
When a cop is shot it makes the front page of the news and there's
always an outrage, and big rewards are offered to the capture of the
persons involved.

Where was the outrage when Reginald Denning was beat in the head with
a cynderblock?

As far as Rodney King goes, yes I think there was excessive force but
have you ever dealt with a person high on drugs? I have, and believe
me it is no picnic.

Really? And what situations was that?
Are you a cop?

Amazing Rodney King ended right back in trouble too.

There is racism on all sides, no one is perfect.

Tehawk ©2003
The Cerebral Assassin
ICQ #4610826
http://www.tehawk.com
http://home.earthlink.net/~tehawk
The Inverse Law of FlameWars
The More A Person Brags About How Good They Are At Flaming (or Trolling too), The More They Suck At It.
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User: "Brave New Worm"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 27 Jul 2003 04:22:26 PM
Assassin <assassin@tehawk.com> wrote in
news:eff8iv0ju5kjk276b6q2779vnha474bmnk@4ax.com:

On 27 Jul 2003 03:56:44 -0700,

(osprey) with the
help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to
type out the following:

jeff.engerer@sympatico.ca (jeff) wrote in message
news:<208989ee.0307261848.57e0675a@posting.google.com>...

Slavery may have been abolished 140 years ago but the lingering
brutality,
segregation and denial of basic human rights continues till this
day. Why no public admission that the past was wrong? Why no
monuments to the suffering of millions? Without reconciliation it
will always be a sore point.
American blacks are slowly becoming full fledged members of society.
Slowly. Every so often some nasty scenario surfaces about a black
celebrity ruffling feathers because he or she is simply seeking out
what any white person would obtain without question.
Tiger Woods' go at the Masters exposed the fact that that there are
still white's only golf clubs around.
People don't get over things that continue to haunt their lives.
A black walks in to a group of whites and the whole tone of
conversation changes.
Blacks get different service over a counter.
(not everywhere and not all situations but prevalent enough for you
to reckognize the truth in it)
A black man is more likely to be pulled over, held without being
formally arrested, and beaten in custody in the States today than
any other race.
The Rodney King mess showed the history of LA police racism and
brutality. It also showed the racism of a random selection of
supposedly upstanding citizens.
" Rodney King was controlling that beating.." one of the middle aged
witnesses said with a grin after seeing the tape.
When the black jury aquitted O.J., they were so full of poison that
justice meant O.J. walks no matter what. Any surprise? (One back at
ya.)
Don't tell people to get over the past when it's still haunting
their present.


Where is the outrage when a white cop is jumped and shot?


What planet are you from?
When a cop is shot it makes the front page of the news and there's
always an outrage, and big rewards are offered to the capture of the
persons involved.

Where was the outrage when Reginald Denning was beat in the head with
a cynderblock?

As far as Rodney King goes, yes I think there was excessive force but
have you ever dealt with a person high on drugs? I have, and believe
me it is no picnic.

Really? And what situations was that?
Are you a cop?

Amazing Rodney King ended right back in trouble too.

There is racism on all sides, no one is perfect.



Tehawk ©2003
The Cerebral Assassin
ICQ #4610826

http://www.tehawk.com
http://home.earthlink.net/~tehawk

The Inverse Law of FlameWars
The More A Person Brags About How Good They Are At Flaming (or
Trolling too), The More They Suck At It.

Cops. Ovens. Throw.
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Bass for your *****:
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http://www.mp3.com/highc
http://www.mp3.com/measurerecs.
"[The artwork of Andrew Penland] is REAL...what I mean by "real" is that
it made NEW THOUGHTS occur in my head, which would have never otherwise
occurred." --Full Force Frank
.

User: "Assassin"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 12:06:45 AM
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:58:14 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
with the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally
able to type out the following:


"Assassin" <assassin@tehawk.com> wrote in message
news:eff8iv0ju5kjk276b6q2779vnha474bmnk@4ax.com...

On 27 Jul 2003 03:56:44 -0700,

(osprey) with the
help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to
type out the following:

jeff.engerer@sympatico.ca (jeff) wrote in message

news:<208989ee.0307261848.57e0675a@posting.google.com>...

Slavery may have been abolished 140 years ago but the lingering
brutality,
segregation and denial of basic human rights continues till this day.
Why no public admission that the past was wrong? Why no monuments to
the suffering of millions? Without reconciliation it will always be a
sore point.
American blacks are slowly becoming full fledged members of society.
Slowly. Every so often some nasty scenario surfaces about a black
celebrity ruffling feathers because he or she is simply seeking out
what any white person would obtain without question.
Tiger Woods' go at the Masters exposed the fact that that there are
still white's only golf clubs around.
People don't get over things that continue to haunt their lives.
A black walks in to a group of whites and the whole tone of
conversation changes.
Blacks get different service over a counter.
(not everywhere and not all situations but prevalent enough for you to
reckognize the truth in it)
A black man is more likely to be pulled over, held without being
formally arrested, and beaten in custody in the States today than any
other race.
The Rodney King mess showed the history of LA police racism and
brutality. It also showed the racism of a random selection of
supposedly upstanding citizens.
" Rodney King was controlling that beating.." one of the middle aged
witnesses said with a grin after seeing the tape.
When the black jury aquitted O.J., they were so full of poison that
justice meant O.J. walks no matter what. Any surprise? (One back at
ya.)
Don't tell people to get over the past when it's still haunting their
present.


Where is the outrage when a white cop is jumped and shot?


What planet are you from?
When a cop is shot it makes the front page of the news and there's
always an outrage, and big rewards are offered to the capture of the
persons involved.


Yea the outrage is usually due to people slamming the police department.

*****.

Or if a cop shoots a black man, they make the headlines, and they always
emphasize the race.

It happens all the time without a big stink being made.
It's when the cops shoot someone unarmed or under questionable
circumstances. Or they do ***** like beat a guy to dead or choke a guy
to death.
Of course you think that all killings are justified.

And then you have knuckle heads making it a race issue.

If a cop shot an unarmed black kid for no reason, sounds like a race
issue to me.


Yes, law enforcement types never make a mistake during the course of
their duty.



Where was the outrage when Reginald Denning was beat in the head with
a cynderblock?

There was outrage, just not enough to satisfiy a cry baby like
yourself.


As far as Rodney King goes, yes I think there was excessive force but
have you ever dealt with a person high on drugs? I have, and believe
me it is no picnic.

Really? And what situations was that?
Are you a cop?


Correctional officer

Go deal with a guy who just came in, high on pcp. Let me know what you
think.

Let's see, so you're a correction office, which means that you deal
with people who are already locked up and unarmed.
If any of them happen to be under the influence of drugs then it's
because either you or one of your fellow officers weren't doing their
jobs in preventing them from obtaining those drugs.
Tehawk ©2003
The Cerebral Assassin
ICQ #4610826
http://www.tehawk.com
http://home.earthlink.net/~tehawk
The Inverse Law of FlameWars
The More A Person Brags About How Good They Are At Flaming (or Trolling too), The More They Suck At It.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 28 Jul 2003 07:53:57 AM
"Assassin" <assassin@tehawk.com> wrote in message
news:r4b9ivsk3rgkm5m49vik1ndqjmps5bdoff@4ax.com...

On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:58:14 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
with the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally
able to type out the following:


"Assassin" <assassin@tehawk.com> wrote in message
news:eff8iv0ju5kjk276b6q2779vnha474bmnk@4ax.com...

On 27 Jul 2003 03:56:44 -0700,

(osprey) with the
help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to
type out the following:

jeff.engerer@sympatico.ca (jeff) wrote in message

news:<208989ee.0307261848.57e0675a@posting.google.com>...

Slavery may have been abolished 140 years ago but the lingering
brutality,
segregation and denial of basic human rights continues till this

day.

Why no public admission that the past was wrong? Why no monuments to
the suffering of millions? Without reconciliation it will always be

a

sore point.
American blacks are slowly becoming full fledged members of society.
Slowly. Every so often some nasty scenario surfaces about a black
celebrity ruffling feathers because he or she is simply seeking out
what any white person would obtain without question.
Tiger Woods' go at the Masters exposed the fact that that there are
still white's only golf clubs around.
People don't get over things that continue to haunt their lives.
A black walks in to a group of whites and the whole tone of
conversation changes.
Blacks get different service over a counter.
(not everywhere and not all situations but prevalent enough for you

to

reckognize the truth in it)
A black man is more likely to be pulled over, held without being
formally arrested, and beaten in custody in the States today than

any

other race.
The Rodney King mess showed the history of LA police racism and
brutality. It also showed the racism of a random selection of
supposedly upstanding citizens.
" Rodney King was controlling that beating.." one of the middle aged
witnesses said with a grin after seeing the tape.
When the black jury aquitted O.J., they were so full of poison that
justice meant O.J. walks no matter what. Any surprise? (One back at
ya.)
Don't tell people to get over the past when it's still haunting

their

present.


Where is the outrage when a white cop is jumped and shot?


What planet are you from?
When a cop is shot it makes the front page of the news and there's
always an outrage, and big rewards are offered to the capture of the
persons involved.


Yea the outrage is usually due to people slamming the police department.


*****.

You haven't been around long have you?
The public is QUICK to judge and blame the police with out knowing what the
job is like


Or if a cop shoots a black man, they make the headlines, and they always
emphasize the race.


It happens all the time without a big stink being made.
It's when the cops shoot someone unarmed or under questionable
circumstances.

See if you can make a life saving decision with about 1/10 of a second.
When a cop tells someone not to move, be smart...DON'T MOVE. He or she
doesn't know what you have, and often there isn't time to second guess.
Or they do ***** like beat a guy to dead or choke a guy

to death.

You have no clue as to what you are talking about, you are just following
along with the negative crap the media fills your head up with. Yea there
are bad cops, there is bad in almost anything. But don't you dare sit there
and stereotype men and women who do a job, which may require them to lay
their life on the line for you or anyone else.

Of course you think that all killings are justified.

There is more of your ignorance showing.



And then you have knuckle heads making it a race issue.


If a cop shot an unarmed black kid for no reason, sounds like a race
issue to me.

Sounds like you like to jump to conclusions.




Yes, law enforcement types never make a mistake during the course of
their duty.

I never said that




Where was the outrage when Reginald Denning was beat in the head with
a cynderblock?


There was outrage, just not enough to satisfiy a cry baby like
yourself.


As far as Rodney King goes, yes I think there was excessive force but
have you ever dealt with a person high on drugs? I have, and believe
me it is no picnic.

Really? And what situations was that?
Are you a cop?


Correctional officer

Go deal with a guy who just came in, high on pcp. Let me know what you
think.


Let's see, so you're a correction office, which means that you deal
with people who are already locked up and unarmed.

all ready locked up?
Clue moron:
Ever hear of direct supervision.
I am around anywhere between 50 to 100 criminals at any given time, THEY ARE
NOT LOCKED UP, and I am the one unarmed.

If any of them happen to be under the influence of drugs then it's
because either you or one of your fellow officers weren't doing their
jobs in preventing them from obtaining those drugs.

Again, more ignorance showing.
The situation that just happened to me about 2 months ago, the guy was
brought into receiving, brought into my housing unit, and about 2 hours
after his arrival, he went absolutely crazy. HE HAD THE CRAP ALL READY IN
HIS SYSTEM
God you idiots don't know what your talking about.
Get lost, I am sick of dealing with people who are so ignorant they talk out
their (*&(*$
When you can do the job, you let someone know. Bye
.
User: "Assassin"

Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 29 Jul 2003 08:52:02 PM
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:53:57 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
with the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally
able to type out the following:


"Assassin" <assassin@tehawk.com> wrote in message
news:r4b9ivsk3rgkm5m49vik1ndqjmps5bdoff@4ax.com...

On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:58:14 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com>
with the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally
able to type out the following:


"Assassin" <assassin@tehawk.com> wrote in message
news:eff8iv0ju5kjk276b6q2779vnha474bmnk@4ax.com...

On 27 Jul 2003 03:56:44 -0700,

(osprey) with the
help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to
type out the following:

jeff.engerer@sympatico.ca (jeff) wrote in message

news:<208989ee.0307261848.57e0675a@posting.google.com>...

Slavery may have been abolished 140 years ago but the lingering
brutality,
segregation and denial of basic human rights continues till this

day.

Why no public admission that the past was wrong? Why no monuments to
the suffering of millions? Without reconciliation it will always be

a

sore point.
American blacks are slowly becoming full fledged members of society.
Slowly. Every so often some nasty scenario surfaces about a black
celebrity ruffling feathers because he or she is simply seeking out
what any white person would obtain without question.
Tiger Woods' go at the Masters exposed the fact that that there are
still white's only golf clubs around.
People don't get over things that continue to haunt their lives.
A black walks in to a group of whites and the whole tone of
conversation changes.
Blacks get different service over a counter.
(not everywhere and not all situations but prevalent enough for you

to

reckognize the truth in it)
A black man is more likely to be pulled over, held without being
formally arrested, and beaten in custody in the States today than

any

other race.
The Rodney King mess showed the history of LA police racism and
brutality. It also showed the racism of a random selection of
supposedly upstanding citizens.
" Rodney King was controlling that beating.." one of the middle aged
witnesses said with a grin after seeing the tape.
When the black jury aquitted O.J., they were so full of poison that
justice meant O.J. walks no matter what. Any surprise? (One back at
ya.)
Don't tell people to get over the past when it's still haunting

their

present.


Where is the outrage when a white cop is jumped and shot?


What planet are you from?
When a cop is shot it makes the front page of the news and there's
always an outrage, and big rewards are offered to the capture of the
persons involved.


Yea the outrage is usually due to people slamming the police department.


*****.


You haven't been around long have you?

A lot longer that you'd think.

The public is QUICK to judge and blame the police with out knowing what the
job is like

That do that for every occupation when something bad happens.
Difference is that members of other occupations aren't cry babies
complaining about how the public keeps "misjudging" them.


Or if a cop shoots a black man, they make the headlines, and they always
emphasize the race.


It happens all the time without a big stink being made.
It's when the cops shoot someone unarmed or under questionable
circumstances.


See if you can make a life saving decision with about 1/10 of a second.
When a cop tells someone not to move, be smart...DON'T MOVE. He or she
doesn't know what you have, and often there isn't time to second guess.

The old "you don't know what it's like" excuse.
Too bad that every bad cop has used that same excuse os often that
it's lost any credibility it might have once had.

Or they do ***** like beat a guy to dead or choke a guy

to death.


You have no clue as to what you are talking about, you are just following
along with the negative crap the media fills your head up with. Yea there
are bad cops, there is bad in almost anything. But don't you dare sit there
and stereotype men and women who do a job,

You might sound more credible if you haven't been using your own
stereotypes since you've gotten into this thread.

which may require them to lay
their life on the line for you or anyone else.

The same can be said for fire fighters, but they don't go around using
stereotypes to make excuses like you've been doing.



Of course you think that all killings are justified.


There is more of your ignorance showing.

Really, so now you're claiming that cops have never made a mistake?



And then you have knuckle heads making it a race issue.


If a cop shot an unarmed black kid for no reason, sounds like a race
issue to me.


Sounds like you like to jump to conclusions.

And you don't?




Yes, law enforcement types never make a mistake during the course of
their duty.


I never said that

You've been implying it and making excuses for it.




Where was the outrage when Reginald Denning was beat in the head with
a cynderblock?


There was outrage, just not enough to satisfiy a cry baby like
yourself.





As far as Rodney King goes, yes I think there was excessive force but
have you ever dealt with a person high on drugs? I have, and believe
me it is no picnic.

Really? And what situations was that?
Are you a cop?


Correctional officer

Go deal with a guy who just came in, high on pcp. Let me know what you
think.


Let's see, so you're a correction office, which means that you deal
with people who are already locked up and unarmed.


all ready locked up?

Clue moron:

Ever hear of direct supervision.
I am around anywhere between 50 to 100 criminals at any given time, THEY ARE
NOT LOCKED UP, and I am the one unarmed.


If any of them happen to be under the influence of drugs then it's
because either you or one of your fellow officers weren't doing their
jobs in preventing them from obtaining those drugs.


Again, more ignorance showing.

The situation that just happened to me about 2 months ago, the guy was
brought into receiving, brought into my housing unit, and about 2 hours
after his arrival, he went absolutely crazy. HE HAD THE CRAP ALL READY IN
HIS SYSTEM

God you idiots don't know what your talking about.

Get lost, I am sick of dealing with people who are so ignorant they talk out
their (*&(*$

Which is what you've been doing.

When you can do the job, you let someone know. Bye

Poor cry baby can't handle an argument where he's not in control.
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Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 29 Jul 2003 08:46:13 PM
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Where is the outrage when a white cop is jumped and shot?

Where is the fucking ticker tape parade for the gunman?
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Title: Re: Black people should be thankful for slavery 01 Aug 2003 06:31:05 PM
I hate feeding the trolls but here goes:
In article <208989ee.0307261848.57e0675a@posting.google.com>,
jeff.engerer@sympatico.ca (jeff) wrote:

Slavery may have been abolished 140 years ago but the lingering
brutality,
segregation and denial of basic human rights continues till this day.

Good point. Like I said in a thread a while back, there have been studies
that show that Blacks have an income that is on average 60-percent less than
whites, which is the same ratio as it was in 1863.
We won't even talk about all the disparities that existed in the
Jim Crow South. (This went on until the 1960's)
Then you also have to consider things like James Byrd and the Tulia, Texas
incident, both of which happened recently.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/17/news/opinion/courtwatch/main559138.shtml

Why no public admission that the past was wrong? Why no monuments to
the suffering of millions?

I had a big argument with some of my classmates about this.
My belief is that because slavery happened mostly before there was
photography and
motion pictures, it is easy for people to not comprehend the heineousness of the
crime of slavery.
Pictures paint a story that no amount of words can describe.
Films and photos were what got people to really comprehend the Jewish Holocaust,
before they had seen the films of the concentration camps, most people didn't
believe that the Holocaust really happened, but these films and photos are
ultimately what got the Jews reparations. Because there are no pictures of the
actual slave trade or slavery, people don't want to believe.
I've actually had a college professor try to tell me that slavery wasn't
really that
bad, or that it was really all Africans selling other Africans into slavery.

Without reconciliation it will always be a
sore point.

It's a sore point for me just for the fact that both of my fraternal
grandparents died
before the Civil Rights Acts were passed. They lived their entire lives in a
racist Alabama as second class citizens and it was legal!

American blacks are slowly becoming full fledged members of society.
Slowly. Every so often some nasty scenario surfaces about a black
celebrity ruffling feathers because he or she is simply seeking out
what any white person would obtain without question.

Which is why we need affirmative action. Some white people cry that AA is
reverse
racism, but discrimination was affirmative action FOR white people that went on
for *hundreds* of years.

Tiger Woods' go at the Masters exposed the fact that that there are
still white's only golf clubs around.

Or how millions of white folks woke up out of the matrix when O.J. Simpson was
acquitted. His case was the first in history that a black person probably
committed a serious crime and got off because he had money, something
white people
have been doing for years.

People don't get over things that continue to haunt their lives.
A black walks in to a group of whites and the whole tone of
conversation changes.
Blacks get different service over a counter.
(not everywhere and not all situations but prevalent enough for you to
reckognize the truth in it)

I'm black and I live in Texas. I've gone into more than one restarant late
at night and the patrons simple ignore you (literally they act like you aren't
there even if you talk to them) until you leave. This happened to me at a
Kettle Restaurant in Houston (FM 1960 and Hwy 290) and at a
Denny's restaurant in Austin. (I-35 South and Hwy 290)

A black man is more likely to be pulled over, held without being
formally arrested, and beaten in custody in the States today than any
other race.

I got a DWB last week. The police pulled me over becuz I had my running
lights on
and not my headlights. They then called two other cars and proceeded to tear my
vehicle apart with a drug dog. They searched for over an hour, found
nothing and had to let me go. They kept asking where I had hid my gun or
drugs. I've also been pulled over in Houston because I 'fit the
description' of someone who had stolen a car in the area.
And these are minor incidents. What about the kid in LA who got slammed
on the car
hood and punched in the face, after he was already in custody!?
Or in the late 80's and early 90's there were a bunch of cases in Arkansas
where the
police would randomly stop black motorists, take them to the station and
beat them
until they confessed to crimes they didn't commit!
Or Diallio in New York?
These things happen all the time, so much to the point that it is taken
for granted.

The Rodney King mess showed the history of LA police racism and
brutality. It also showed the racism of a random selection of
supposedly upstanding citizens.
" Rodney King was controlling that beating.." one of the middle aged
witnesses said with a grin after seeing the tape.
When the black jury aquitted O.J., they were so full of poison that
justice meant O.J. walks no matter what. Any surprise? (One back at
ya.)
Don't tell people to get over the past when it's still haunting their
present.

Bill Clinton is the most disappointing President in the history of
America.
Here was a guy who suddenly had trillions of dollars at his disposal
with the fall of the Soviet empire.( that was the size of the budget
for defending Western Europe)
Wouldn't some of that money have gone a long way toward establishing
long reaching programs to rebuild inner cities and helping people
break the cycle of violence poverty and despair? Damn right it
would've!
That's enough cash to make a lot of change.

Forget Clinton, how about Bush? he created a war and toppled a foreign
government
over phantom weapons of mass destruction! It's costing the US government
$7 billion a month to be in Iraq and Afghanistan, that's not counting the
$500 billion it cost to finance the first few months of the war.
The government can spend these amounts of money chasing phantom WOMD's,
but on his trip to Africa, Bush only committed something like $15 billion to
fight AIDS which is at epidemic proportions there. It just seems a little
strange
to me, considering the fact that there are many much worse dictatorships
in Africa
than there was in Iraq.
When Bush took office we had a $221 billion surplus, we now have a $500 billion
deficit and unemployment is the highest it's ever been! Yet he still wants
to give
tax breaks to the wealthy!

Instead you got more of the same. Very little changed and the spin
doctors quickly focussed attention on other phony "hot-spots".
Had to keep up the embargo on Cuba- big bad scary Cuba. (Funny how
they've managed to achieve a higher literacy rate than the U.S. on a
shoestring.)

The so called conspiracy theory regarding the disproportionate number
of blacks in service during Viet Nam is a chilling thought. It seems
that much more real when you throw in the fact that the CIA really
were selling crack in the ghettos of America.

It wasn't just Blacks it was Hispanics too.
I have an uncle who was in Viet Nam and he swore that he drove trucks for
Air America that were loaded with heroin being flown to the states.

If there really is such a cynical element still alive in government
today then the future looks bleak.

The only thing that might help us is the upcoming election, but even then
it still looks bad.

Again don't tell people to get over history when they are faced with
overwhelming negative odds as a result of that unreconciled history.
Considering all that was and all that is, it is amazing just how many
blacks do achieve success, period.

I also believe this is why so many blacks become involved in crime.
When you have no hope, you start to really believe you have nothing to lose.
But you can't lose the faith...that's when ya lost.
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