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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "J Young"
Date: 03 Aug 2005 12:00:26 AM
Object: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth
Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201724.html
Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth
Baby Appears Healthy After 3-Month Ordeal
A cancer-stricken woman who was declared brain-dead three months ago
gave birth yesterday to a baby girl at an Arlington hospital.
Susan Torres of Arlington was about 15 weeks pregnant when she was
felled by a brain tumor in May, but she was hooked up to a ventilator
and other machines in the slim hope that her baby might survive.
She had hoped for a girl, and at 8:18 a.m. yesterday Susan Anne
Catherine Torres was delivered by Caesarean section at Virginia
Hospital Center. The newborn weighed 1 pound, 13 ounces and was 13.5
inches long. There were no complications during delivery, and the baby
appears healthy, said her uncle, Justin Torres. The hospital confirmed
the birth and said the baby is being monitored in the neonatal
intensive care unit.
.

User: "Bad Wolf"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 01:23:01 AM
Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.

Notice anything about these religious twats? Not only do they lie a
lot, they also never credit scientists, doctors etc with anything.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 01:54:48 AM
"Bad Wolf" <Badwolf@tardis.com> wrote in message
news:5eo0f1t2mvtnlvie9jtd6vn613f2vfh8e0@4ax.com...

Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.


Notice anything about these religious twats?

Excuse me, he's not religious; he's a troll.
Susan
Not only do they lie a

lot, they also never credit scientists, doctors etc with anything.

David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208

Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.

.
User: "Ricky Ticket"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 11:31:45 AM
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 2:54:48 -0400, Susan Cohen wrote
(in message <YSZHe.34158$W%5.2227@trnddc05>):

Notice anything about these religious twats?


Excuse me, he's not religious;

Neither are you Susan, you play religious when it suits you and you ***** all
over your gods law when you feel like it. Typical religious bull *****. You
don't believe the crap you spew, you just want others to embrace your
ignorance. :o)
You're the religious twat he was talking about. :o)
--
"That too was already proven by your lack of proving I was wrong." --Osprey
.
User: "Mickey"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 01:17:22 PM
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF1669CD00019764202A8E90@news.east.earthlink.net...

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 2:54:48 -0400, Susan Cohen wrote
(in message <YSZHe.34158$W%5.2227@trnddc05>):

Notice anything about these religious twats?


Excuse me, he's not religious;


Neither are you Susan, you play religious when it suits you and you *****

all

over your gods law when you feel like it. Typical religious bull *****. You
don't believe the crap you spew, you just want others to embrace your
ignorance. :o)

You're the religious twat he was talking about. :o)

Spoken like the know-nothing, genetic cul-de-sac that we al know you are.
Thanks for the daily confirmation.
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 04 Aug 2005 06:49:23 AM
"Mickey" <mickeySPAMb@SPAMcomcastSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:L9mdnV_eD-Lfl2zfRVn-3g@comcast.com...

"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF1669CD00019764202A8E90@news.east.earthlink.net...

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 2:54:48 -0400, Susan Cohen wrote
(in message <YSZHe.34158$W%5.2227@trnddc05>):

Notice anything about these religious twats?


Excuse me, he's not religious;


Neither are you Susan, you play religious when it suits you and you *****

all

over your gods law when you feel like it. Typical religious bull *****.
You
don't believe the crap you spew, you just want others to embrace your
ignorance. :o)

You're the religious twat he was talking about. :o)


Spoken like the know-nothing, genetic cul-de-sac that we al know you are.
Thanks for the daily confirmation.

And I see the stupid scumbag put a "Smiley" after his lies so when his tripe
is refuted, he can then drop back & punt & say "Gee, i wuz only kiddin'"
Susan


.
User: "Ricky Ticket"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 04 Aug 2005 02:21:04 PM
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 7:49:23 -0400, Susan Cohen wrote
(in message <7hnIe.12711$Bx5.8832@trnddc09>):

Neither are you Susan, you play religious when it suits you and you *****

all

over your gods law when you feel like it. Typical religious bull *****.
You
don't believe the crap you spew, you just want others to embrace your
ignorance. :o)

You're the religious twat he was talking about. :o)


Spoken like the know-nothing, genetic cul-de-sac that we al know you are.
Thanks for the daily confirmation.

And I see the stupid scumbag put a "Smiley" after his lies so when his tripe
is refuted, he can then drop back & punt & say "Gee, i wuz only kiddin'"

The smiley is me laughing at your angry religious ignorance suzie. :o)
The truth of the matter is, it's a disease (Homosexuality)..it's a mental
illness that can not be cured. --Robert Heishman (AKA Osprey)
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 03:34:32 PM
Mickey wrote:

"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF1669CD00019764202A8E90@news.east.earthlink.net...

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 2:54:48 -0400, Susan Cohen wrote
(in message <YSZHe.34158$W%5.2227@trnddc05>):

Notice anything about these religious twats?


Excuse me, he's not religious;


Neither are you Susan, you play religious when it suits you and you *****

all

over your gods law when you feel like it. Typical religious bull *****. You
don't believe the crap you spew, you just want others to embrace your
ignorance. :o)

You're the religious twat he was talking about. :o)


Spoken like the know-nothing, genetic cul-de-sac that we al know you are.
Thanks for the daily confirmation.

After our latest series of run-ins with Bruce Dubuque, I'd have
thought half of Virginia's mothers were brain dead.
.

User: "Ricky Ticket"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 04 Aug 2005 03:34:25 AM
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 14:17:22 -0400, Mickey wrote
(in message <L9mdnV_eD-Lfl2zfRVn-3g@comcast.com>):

Notice anything about these religious twats?


Excuse me, he's not religious;


Neither are you Susan, you play religious when it suits you and you *****

all

over your gods law when you feel like it. Typical religious bull *****. You
don't believe the crap you spew, you just want others to embrace your
ignorance. :o)

You're the religious twat he was talking about. :o)


Spoken like the know-nothing, genetic cul-de-sac that we al know you are.
Thanks for the daily confirmation.

Who's "we" and when did you get elected spokesperson "Mickey"? Was that your
cults idea of "love", or just you shitting on your gods laws? :o)
The truth of the matter is, it's a disease (Homosexuality)..it's a mental
illness that can not be cured. --Robert Heishman (AKA Osprey)
.



User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 08:27:25 AM
Susan Cohen wrote:

"Bad Wolf" <Badwolf@tardis.com> wrote in message
news:5eo0f1t2mvtnlvie9jtd6vn613f2vfh8e0@4ax.com...

Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.


Notice anything about these religious twats?


Excuse me, he's not religious; he's a troll.

Those are not mutually exclusive options, as JY constantly and consistently
proves.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"It is necessary to the happiness of man that he be
mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not
consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists
in professing to believe what one does not believe. It
is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may
so express it, that mental lying has produced in society.
When man has so far corrupted and prostituted the
chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional
belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared
himself for the commission of every other crime."
- Thomas Paine, "The Age of Reason"
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 04 Aug 2005 06:48:25 AM
"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:42F0C63D.6B8FEE91@serv.net...

Susan Cohen wrote:

"Bad Wolf" <Badwolf@tardis.com> wrote in message
news:5eo0f1t2mvtnlvie9jtd6vn613f2vfh8e0@4ax.com...

Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.


Notice anything about these religious twats?


Excuse me, he's not religious; he's a troll.


Those are not mutually exclusive options, as JY constantly and
consistently
proves.

But he often esopuses exactly opposite views just to be disgusting/annoying.
He was really religious, he wouldn't do that.
Susan
.
User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 04 Aug 2005 06:50:47 AM
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 11:48:25 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net>
wrote:


"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:42F0C63D.6B8FEE91@serv.net...

Susan Cohen wrote:

"Bad Wolf" <Badwolf@tardis.com> wrote in message
news:5eo0f1t2mvtnlvie9jtd6vn613f2vfh8e0@4ax.com...

Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.


Notice anything about these religious twats?


Excuse me, he's not religious; he's a troll.


Those are not mutually exclusive options, as JY constantly and
consistently
proves.


But he often esopuses exactly opposite views just to be disgusting/annoying.
He was really religious, he wouldn't do that.

Then why do so many religious believers do just that?
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 04 Aug 2005 10:14:12 AM
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:2604f19odllf3nfu3di6cl3rusgnvh5obk@4ax.com...

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 11:48:25 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net>
wrote:


"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:42F0C63D.6B8FEE91@serv.net...

Susan Cohen wrote:

Excuse me, he's not religious; he's a troll.


Those are not mutually exclusive options, as JY constantly and
consistently
proves.


But he often esopuses exactly opposite views just to be
disgusting/annoying.
He was really religious, he wouldn't do that.


Then why do so many religious believers do just that?

Espouse *opposite* views?
Susan
.





User: "J Young"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 01:49:23 PM
Bad Wolf wrote:

Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.


Notice anything about these religious twats? Not only do they lie a
lot, they also never credit scientists, doctors etc with anything.

David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208

Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.

As is usual when I post, I seem to miss the religious part I'm always
accused of injecting. Would you kindly point it out for me? Thankyou
.
User: "Bad Wolf"

Title: Re: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 02:31:50 PM
Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:


Bad Wolf wrote:

Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.


Notice anything about these religious twats? Not only do they lie a
lot, they also never credit scientists, doctors etc with anything.

David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208

Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.






As is usual when I post, I seem to miss the religious part I'm always
accused of injecting. Would you kindly point it out for me? Thankyou

It's the bit where you keep inferring that foetuses are babies, which
is a theological abstraction.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
.
User: "Bad Wolf"

Title: Re: Re: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 02:33:46 PM
Cometh the hour, cometh Bad Wolf <Badwolf@tardis.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:


Bad Wolf wrote:

Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.


Notice anything about these religious twats? Not only do they lie a
lot, they also never credit scientists, doctors etc with anything.

David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208

Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.






As is usual when I post, I seem to miss the religious part I'm always
accused of injecting. Would you kindly point it out for me? Thankyou


It's the bit where you keep inferring that foetuses are babies, which
is a theological abstraction.

... and therefore contrary or irrelevant to the truth.
Sorry, posted too quickly.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
.
User: "Bad Wolf"

Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 02:34:46 PM
Cometh the hour, cometh Bad Wolf <Badwolf@tardis.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Cometh the hour, cometh Bad Wolf <Badwolf@tardis.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:


Bad Wolf wrote:

Cometh the hour, cometh "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.


Notice anything about these religious twats? Not only do they lie a
lot, they also never credit scientists, doctors etc with anything.

David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208

Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.






As is usual when I post, I seem to miss the religious part I'm always
accused of injecting. Would you kindly point it out for me? Thankyou


It's the bit where you keep inferring that foetuses are babies, which
is a theological abstraction.

.. and therefore contrary or irrelevant to the truth.

Sorry, posted too quickly.

Anyway, you lie like a theist.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 04 Aug 2005 07:07:29 AM
"Bad Wolf" <Badwolf@tardis.com> wrote in message
news:4272f1pt36rie7ua6g60cnd1o1q8nsv6cl@4ax.com...



Anyway, you lie like a theist.

This statement makes you a liar as well.
Susan
.
User: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton"

Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 04 Aug 2005 06:56:43 PM
Why is that Jewish atheists always seem to the ones who are most angry
and bitter?
"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:5ynIe.12719$Bx5.12262@trnddc09...
:
: "Bad Wolf" <Badwolf@tardis.com> wrote in message
: news:4272f1pt36rie7ua6g60cnd1o1q8nsv6cl@4ax.com...
: >
: >>
: > Anyway, you lie like a theist.
:
: This statement makes you a liar as well.
:
: Susan
:
:
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 04 Aug 2005 08:30:51 PM
ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton <news@riain.org> wrote:

Why is that Jewish atheists always seem to the ones who are most angry
and bitter?

You're an atheist?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.








User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 10:06:08 AM
In episode <1123045226.625464.317380@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, J
Young burst into the room and exclaimed:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby,

As usual, you lie.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 11:10:06 AM
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman

As opposed to the murderous Radical Religious Riech.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 07:58:48 AM
On 2 Aug 2005 22:00:26 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.

*sigh*
The woman in question had made it clear that having this child was
important to her. She did not leave a DNR/No Heroic Measures order.
Her husband, respecting his wife's wishes, told doctors to keep her
alive until the baby could be delivered.
No one was trying to pull the plug, you lying sack of *****.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.
User: "Elf M. Sternberg"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 01:09:34 PM
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> writes:

On 2 Aug 2005 22:00:26 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.


The woman in question had made it clear that having this child was
important to her. She did not leave a DNR/No Heroic Measures order.
Her husband, respecting his wife's wishes, told doctors to keep her
alive until the baby could be delivered.

It's amazing to me just how important this seems to be to the
RRR. After all, ten years ago the technology for this feat simply
didn't exist. Nobody seems to be thankful to the evolution-accepting
doctors who did this, or the evolution-accepting researchers who made it
possible.
Elf
.


User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 07:04:10 AM
On 2 Aug 2005 22:00:26 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.

Really? Produce the 'looney liberal left' who were trying to get her
off life support, then.
.

User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: Brain-Dead Va. Woman Gives Birth 03 Aug 2005 06:35:09 PM
in article 1123045226.625464.317380@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 8/3/05 1:00 AM:

Had the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) been running the show here, the woman
would have been starved to death and the hell with the baby, it had no
rights. Instead, the love of a parent kept the hope for life alive.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR200508020172

And in 18 years, will she be the next Mrs. J Young--or do you just
hope to bag the mother? After all, brain-dead is a desirable quality in a
god fearing, flag loving American wife.
Paul
.


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