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User:	"osprey"
Date:	30 Apr 2004 12:58:11 AM
Object:	Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance. What will their spin
be???
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,118522,00.html
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User: "Shawn Hearn"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 06:45:48 PM

In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>,

(osprey) wrote:

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance. What will their spin
be???

If Bush is so sure of himself, why did he refuse to testify under oath
and by himself, rather than off the record with his puppetmaster at his
side?
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User: "Osprey"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 06:49:13 PM

"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
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In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance. What will their spin
be???

If Bush is so sure of himself, why did he refuse to testify under oath
and by himself, rather than off the record with his puppetmaster at his
side?

Ever hear of national security and sensitive information?
I am sure that liberals are going to put a spin on this, naturally since he
got a favorable report from the panel.
Already some spin has started, you are working on another spin.
The first spin I heard was, the majority of the panel members are republican
Now, you are working on the second spin.
I just wanted to know what spin liberals were going to try and pull. You
are showing me already. Thanks
.

User: "Shawn Hearn"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	02 May 2004 10:41:28 AM

In article <O76dnYBFnKskeA_d4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
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In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance. What will their spin
be???

If Bush is so sure of himself, why did he refuse to testify under oath
and by himself, rather than off the record with his puppetmaster at his
side?

Ever hear of national security and sensitive information?

*****. The members of the 9/11 commission all have security clarance.
I am not saying that the total transcript of Bush's question and answer
session should be made available to the public, but there is no good
reason why the session had to be off the record, why Bush could not
testify on his own, and why he could not testify under oath.

I am sure that liberals are going to put a spin on this, naturally since he
got a favorable report from the panel.

So you fully accept Bush's outright evasiveness? Sorry, but if expecting
the truth out of our president on matters of national security is too
much to ask, then it is yet another reason not to vote for Bush.

Already some spin has started, you are working on another spin.
The first spin I heard was, the majority of the panel members are republican
Now, you are working on the second spin.

I just wanted to know what spin liberals were going to try and pull. You
are showing me already. Thanks

The spin is called the "truth" and it is sad that Bush's ***** kissers
like you have complete disdain for seeing that the entire truth of the
9/11 attacks comes out. We cannot learn from our mistakes if we do not
have the entire truth, even if our elected representatives are the only
ones who know the entire story, but as it is, Bush isn't even allowing
his fellow Republicans to learn the truth.
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User: "quibbler"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 08:16:45 AM

In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com says...

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions

Gee, considering that half the panel are republicans and that we don't
know what the question or answers were, it doesn't really matter.

and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance.

He still insisted on cheney being there and relied upon him for some
things. Reports say that the kind of responses Bush gave were
predictable, though of course, we don't have an actual transcript as per
whitehouse requirements.

What will their spin
be???

You mean what will the liberal spin be to the whitehouse's spin on what
happened during the secret interview?
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.

User: "Osprey"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 08:25:51 AM

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com says...

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions

Gee, considering that half the panel are republicans and that we don't
know what the question or answers were, it doesn't really matter.

AHH!! First spin...attack panel now..:o)

and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance.

He still insisted on cheney being there and relied upon him for some
things.

So, it makes perfect sense that he would insist Cheney to be there.
Reports say that the kind of responses Bush gave were

predictable, though of course, we don't have an actual transcript as per
whitehouse requirements.

So we don't have a transcript. Makes sense again.
Sorry but Bush did a good job and the panel was pleased. Deal with it.

What will their spin
be???

You mean what will the liberal spin be to the whitehouse's spin on what
happened during the secret interview?

You already started the spin...you attacked the panel
.

User: "Shawn Hearn"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 06:51:08 PM

In article <tPmdndkqk5dIzg_dRVn-sw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com says...

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions

Gee, considering that half the panel are republicans and that we don't
know what the question or answers were, it doesn't really matter.

AHH!! First spin...attack panel now..:o)

and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance.

He still insisted on cheney being there and relied upon him for some
things.

So, it makes perfect sense that he would insist Cheney to be there.

Why? Clinton, Gore, Clarke, and all the others who were questioned
did not need a compadre to be there when they were questioned.

Reports say that the kind of responses Bush gave were

predictable, though of course, we don't have an actual transcript as per
whitehouse requirements.

So we don't have a transcript. Makes sense again.
Sorry but Bush did a good job and the panel was pleased. Deal with it.

How do you know? Why does not having a transcript make sense? Bush said
he wants people to learn from mistakes, but not being able to official
record what our PRESIDENT said is a huge barrior to learning.
Bush didn't even want to have the 9/11 commission formed in the first
place. He only agreed to it AFTER a lot of political pressure was
exherted upon him. Bush is a huge hypocrit and considering that you
have NO CLUE what was said in that meeting, you are a quintesential
Bush apologist when you say he did a good job since there is no possible
way you could even know what Bush was asked and what his reponses were.
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User: "Osprey"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 07:04:22 PM

"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
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In article <tPmdndkqk5dIzg_dRVn-sw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com says...

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions

Gee, considering that half the panel are republicans and that we don't
know what the question or answers were, it doesn't really matter.

AHH!! First spin...attack panel now..:o)

and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance.

He still insisted on cheney being there and relied upon him for some
things.

So, it makes perfect sense that he would insist Cheney to be there.

Why? Clinton, Gore, Clarke, and all the others who were questioned
did not need a compadre to be there when they were questioned.

Are they the sitting commander in chief?
Answer: No

Reports say that the kind of responses Bush gave were

predictable, though of course, we don't have an actual transcript as

per

whitehouse requirements.

So we don't have a transcript. Makes sense again.
Sorry but Bush did a good job and the panel was pleased. Deal with it.

How do you know?

The panel has said he has done a good job.

Why does not having a transcript make sense?

Due to any sensitive information that may have been given. You know, the
stuff you don't want to get out that could give away our technology or
secrets.
Wait...I forgot...no you wouldn't understand that.
Bush said

he wants people to learn from mistakes, but not being able to official
record what our PRESIDENT said is a huge barrior to learning.

Bush didn't even want to have the 9/11 commission formed in the first
place.

But he did
He only agreed to it AFTER a lot of political pressure was

exherted upon him.

Point being, he did.
Amazing how you liberals completely ignored how Bill Clinton avoided telling
the truth for so long until finally political pressure made him admit he
lied under oath.
But then you liberals praised him.
Bush is a huge hypocrit and considering that you

have NO CLUE what was said in that meeting, you are a quintesential
Bush apologist when you say he did a good job since there is no possible
way you could even know what Bush was asked and what his reponses were.

Can you find someone that says he didn't answer the questions right and
didn't do a good job?
Whats that? No? You can't...didn't think so.
Go sit back down..:o)
.

User: "Shawn Hearn"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	02 May 2004 10:45:29 AM

In article <4padnelMmcAddA_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
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In article <tPmdndkqk5dIzg_dRVn-sw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com says...

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions

Gee, considering that half the panel are republicans and that we don't
know what the question or answers were, it doesn't really matter.

AHH!! First spin...attack panel now..:o)

and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance.

He still insisted on cheney being there and relied upon him for some
things.

So, it makes perfect sense that he would insist Cheney to be there.

Why? Clinton, Gore, Clarke, and all the others who were questioned
did not need a compadre to be there when they were questioned.

Are they the sitting commander in chief?

Answer: No

Reports say that the kind of responses Bush gave were

predictable, though of course, we don't have an actual transcript as

per

whitehouse requirements.

So we don't have a transcript. Makes sense again.
Sorry but Bush did a good job and the panel was pleased. Deal with it.

How do you know?

The panel has said he has done a good job.

Where did the panel say that? One or two members (all Republicans said
that), but their report has not yet been completed.

Why does not having a transcript make sense?

Due to any sensitive information that may have been given. You know, the
stuff you don't want to get out that could give away our technology or
secrets.

*****. Lots of top secret government proceedings have transcripts.
This is another lie by the Bush apologists.

Wait...I forgot...no you wouldn't understand that.

Wait, I forgot. You don't mind politicians lying to you as long as
they're Republican. Sorry for the lapse in memory.

Bush said

But he did

Wrong. The record shows that Bush was very much opposed to the idea of
forming a 9/11 commission and he only agreed to it under the heat of
political pressure. your claim is yet another of your long list of lies.

He only agreed to it AFTER a lot of political pressure was

exherted upon him.

Point being, he did.

Not without intense political pressure. Spin it however you want. Bush
is on record as opossing the 9/11 commission originally and he is on
record has having to be subpeoned three times by the commission for
records AFTER he said he would fully cooporate with the commission.
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	02 May 2004 11:43:04 AM

In article <srhi-DDF5E9.11452902052004@news-60.giganews.com>, Shawn
Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:

In article <4padnelMmcAddA_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-D69077.19510830042004@news-60.giganews.com...

In article <tPmdndkqk5dIzg_dRVn-sw@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afbff9cb3f08dc98978c@news.individual.net...

In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com says...

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions

Gee, considering that half the panel are republicans and that we don't
know what the question or answers were, it doesn't really matter.

AHH!! First spin...attack panel now..:o)

and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance.

He still insisted on cheney being there and relied upon him for some
things.

So, it makes perfect sense that he would insist Cheney to be there.

Why? Clinton, Gore, Clarke, and all the others who were questioned
did not need a compadre to be there when they were questioned.

Are they the sitting commander in chief?

Answer: No

Reports say that the kind of responses Bush gave were

predictable, though of course, we don't have an actual transcript as

per

whitehouse requirements.

So we don't have a transcript. Makes sense again.
Sorry but Bush did a good job and the panel was pleased. Deal with it.

How do you know?

The panel has said he has done a good job.

Where did the panel say that? One or two members (all Republicans said
that), but their report has not yet been completed.

The panel said he answered questions. Nothing more. Furthermore,
since Bush and Cheney were afraid to have their comments on the record
we are left with nothing. AND they refused to be placed under oath.
What was THAT all about?

Why does not having a transcript make sense?

Due to any sensitive information that may have been given. You know, the
stuff you don't want to get out that could give away our technology or
secrets.

*****. Lots of top secret government proceedings have transcripts.
This is another lie by the Bush apologists.

Heishman never heard of Top Secret documents. Bush and Cheney lied.
That is why they wanted no record and no oath.

Wait...I forgot...no you wouldn't understand that.

Wait, I forgot. You don't mind politicians lying to you as long as
they're Republican. Sorry for the lapse in memory.

Bush said

But he did

As usual, the Democrats and liberals had to pressure the fascists into
providing democracy.

He only agreed to it AFTER a lot of political pressure was

exherted upon him.

Point being, he did.

And the reason he opposed the commisision will soon come out. He could
have done more. People died because of his malfeasance. Terrorists
planned the deaths of Americans while Bush vacationed. (The longest in
US History.)
.

User: "quibbler"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 08:16:23 PM

In article <4padnelMmcAddA_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,

says...

Can you find someone that says he didn't answer the questions right and
didn't do a good job?

I fact I already pointed out to you that members of the panel said a
number of bush's answers were predictable. That's a polite way of
saying he fed them canned answers and BS. Furthermore, only two members
said they thought bush did a good job. There was hardly a unanimous
poll taken afterward to commend our special boy georgie for not fucking
up, like he did in his last press conference. But I have little doubt
that if we really had a recording of what went on that Bush did a whole
lot of stammering and studdering and "mis-pronouncifying" worlds like he
usually does.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.

User: "Osprey"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 08:18:01 PM

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afca850399394d9897a4@news.individual.net...

In article <4padnelMmcAddA_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,

says...

Can you find someone that says he didn't answer the questions right and
didn't do a good job?

I fact I already pointed out to you that members of the panel said a
number of bush's answers were predictable.

So?
That's a polite way of

saying he fed them canned answers and BS.

No, that is a polite way of saying lets use that for spin.
Fact is the panel was happy with Bush's answers. Deal with it.
Furthermore, only two members

said they thought bush did a good job. There was hardly a unanimous
poll taken afterward to commend our special boy georgie for not fucking
up, like he did in his last press conference. But I have little doubt
that if we really had a recording of what went on that Bush did a whole
lot of stammering and studdering and "mis-pronouncifying" worlds like he
usually does.

I am sure that is your spin and take on it, which is to be expected.
Oh, and "predictable"
.

User: "Shawn Hearn"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	02 May 2004 10:46:10 AM

In article <wNSdnZD3QrkpZw_dRVn-iQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <

> wrote:

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afca850399394d9897a4@news.individual.net...

In article <4padnelMmcAddA_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,

says...

Can you find someone that says he didn't answer the questions right and
didn't do a good job?

I fact I already pointed out to you that members of the panel said a
number of bush's answers were predictable.

So?

That's a polite way of

saying he fed them canned answers and BS.

No, that is a polite way of saying lets use that for spin.
Fact is the panel was happy with Bush's answers. Deal with it.

Where's your proof? One or two members of the panel do not represent
the entire panel's findings.
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	02 May 2004 11:43:05 AM

In article <srhi-54D547.11461002052004@news-60.giganews.com>, Shawn
Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:

In article <wNSdnZD3QrkpZw_dRVn-iQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <

> wrote:

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afca850399394d9897a4@news.individual.net...

In article <4padnelMmcAddA_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,

says...

Can you find someone that says he didn't answer the questions right and
didn't do a good job?

I fact I already pointed out to you that members of the panel said a
number of bush's answers were predictable.

So?

That's a polite way of

saying he fed them canned answers and BS.

No, that is a polite way of saying lets use that for spin.
Fact is the panel was happy with Bush's answers. Deal with it.

Where's your proof? One or two members of the panel do not represent
the entire panel's findings.

Bush even admitted he would stonewall if need be.
"If we had something to hide, we wouldn't have met with them in the
first place," Bush said.
"They had a lot of questions and ... I'm glad I did it," Bush said.
"I'm glad I took the time."
But the administration initially opposed the creation of the
commission. The White House relented amid pressure from some 9/11
family members and it later backed down from its opposition to an
extension of time for the commission.
Bush and Cheney did not testify before the panel -- they were not under
oath and there was to be no recording made of the session nor a
stenographer in the room. Bush and Cheney had spent several hours
over the past few days preparing. Clinton and Gore appeared separately
before the panel, and their sessions were recorded.
Bush brushed off a question from a reporter Thursday on whether 9/11
families were entitled to a transcript of the session.
.

User: "quibbler"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	01 May 2004 10:19:46 AM

In article <wNSdnZD3QrkpZw_dRVn-iQ@comcast.com>,

says...

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afca850399394d9897a4@news.individual.net...

In article <4padnelMmcAddA_dRVn-jA@comcast.com>,

says...

Can you find someone that says he didn't answer the questions right and
didn't do a good job?

I fact I already pointed out to you that members of the panel said a
number of bush's answers were predictable.

So?

That's a polite way of

saying he fed them canned answers and BS.

No, that is a polite way of saying lets use that for spin.

Oh get off the spin. Bush is the guy who told us with a straight face
that as we take more casualties in Iraq that this is a sign that we're
*winning*, because it means that the Iraqis are getting "desperate". So
don't tell me about spin.

Fact is the panel was happy with Bush's answers. Deal with it.

Fact. Two members were quoted by Fox as saying that, but there are more
than two members on the panel. Another fact is that after the meeting
Bush tried to spin the fact that Ashcroft had tried to pin all blame on
commissioner Gorelick. Bush now claims that he's disappointed in
Ashcroft for doing that and that he had "no idea" Johnny Fa$hcroft would
do something mean like that. So it sounds like Gorelick wasn't happy
with Bush and guilted him into another flip flop.

Furthermore, only two members

I am sure that is your spin and take on it, which is to be expected.

No, it's a safe bet based on the way that ex-crack addict and dry drunk
george bush spoke directly after coming out of the meeting, as well as
the way he has performed in the past.

Oh, and "predictable"

Only you didn't predict accurately what the spin would be. You only
"predicted" that someone a little more liberal than bush might question
his official version of how things went. That's about as impressive as
predicting that the sun will come up.

--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.

User: "quibbler"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 08:18:44 PM

In article <tPmdndkqk5dIzg_dRVn-sw@comcast.com>,

says...

You already started the spin...you attacked the panel

Bush's team already spun it and so did fox news. I'm just responding to
their spin. Furthermore, repugs have been attacking people they don't
like on the panel for some time, so I didn't start that either.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.

User: "Osprey"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 08:22:23 PM

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <tPmdndkqk5dIzg_dRVn-sw@comcast.com>,

says...

You already started the spin...you attacked the panel

Bush's team already spun it and so did fox news.

No, they simply reported what panel members had to say.
I just wanted to get a jump on it and see what the spin liberals were going
to use.
It is fun watching liberals jump and spin, I am starting to really enjoy
trying to predict and
see what direction they are going to go.
Stay tuned, if Bush's ratings start to go back up...you will see more
spin..:o)
.

User: "quibbler"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	01 May 2004 10:11:35 AM

In article <l6CdnY5Tk58nZg_d4p2dnA@comcast.com>,

says...

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afca8e0a130e3c9897a5@news.individual.net...

In article <tPmdndkqk5dIzg_dRVn-sw@comcast.com>,

says...

You already started the spin...you attacked the panel

Bush's team already spun it and so did fox news.

No, they simply reported what panel members had to say.

Not true. Bush (and his press secretaries) made a bunch of claims about
how great he did, in his own opinion as well. But, naturally, trusting
the assertions of a proven liar like bush without hard objective data
like transcripts is merely to accept repug spin and opinion as though it
were real news.

I just wanted to get a jump on it and see what the spin liberals were going
to use.

If you don't think that the whitehouse spins things then you're living
in a fantasy world. From O'Neill to Clarke to Woodward they've all
confirmed that bush distorts and doctors data in an unprecedentedly
dishonest manner.

It is fun watching liberals jump and spin,

If you like spin then watch fox news, because that's pretty much the
only thing they ever do. Of course you originally cited a link to fox
news and then asked about the liberal spin. You clearly don't seem to
realize the enormous amount of right wing spin already taking place.

I am starting to really enjoy
trying to predict and
see what direction they are going to go.

Your big prediction is that a non-republican might question the official
version of how the 9-11 panel questioning went. Considering that these
objections to extreme secrecy and co-testimony has already been raised
significantly before the event took place, it doesn't appear that you've
predicted anything.

Stay tuned, if Bush's ratings start to go back up...you will see more
spin..:o)

Nope. You're a few revs behind. Kerry is back to leading bush in a
number of polls, nader has leaked that he's about to drop out, Kerry's
VP choice will give him a boost and most undecided folks vote against
the incumbent historically. It all adds up to a major defeat for Bush,
especially given record casualties in Iraq and a still lackluster
job market.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.

User: "Osprey"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	01 May 2004 10:35:01 AM

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afd6c11d8d7fc999897a6@news.individual.net...

In article <l6CdnY5Tk58nZg_d4p2dnA@comcast.com>,

says...

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afca8e0a130e3c9897a5@news.individual.net...

In article <tPmdndkqk5dIzg_dRVn-sw@comcast.com>,

says...

You already started the spin...you attacked the panel

Bush's team already spun it and so did fox news.

No, they simply reported what panel members had to say.

Evidence?

I just wanted to get a jump on it and see what the spin liberals were

going

to use.

If you don't think that the whitehouse spins things then you're living
in a fantasy world.

I didn't say the Whitehouse, I said the liberals..like the liberals in here.
I just wanted to see the spin they would attempt to try.
From O'Neill to Clarke to Woodward they've all

confirmed that bush distorts and doctors data in an unprecedentedly
dishonest manner.

It is fun watching liberals jump and spin,

If you like spin then watch fox news, because that's pretty much the
only thing they ever do.

Is that why they are so popular and beat CNN in the ratings?
Of course you originally cited a link to fox

news and then asked about the liberal spin.

Yea, and all the other news sources had basically the same story.
You clearly don't seem to

realize the enormous amount of right wing spin already taking place.

I am starting to really enjoy
trying to predict and
see what direction they are going to go.

Stay tuned, if Bush's ratings start to go back up...you will see more
spin..:o)

Nope. You're a few revs behind. Kerry is back to leading bush in a
number of polls,

Wrong
Bush leads Kerry in the polls that ask who they prefer to fight against
terrorism
Kerry leads ONLY in the polls about the economy
As far as a run for the White House, Bush is about 1 percentage point above
Kerry
These polls will change of course
nader has leaked that he's about to drop out, Kerry's

VP choice will give him a boost and most undecided folks vote against
the incumbent historically. It all adds up to a major defeat for Bush,
especially given record casualties in Iraq and a still lackluster
job market.

Well hope you are around if Bush wins..I will be expecting to see some
excuse or something from you and other liberals.
.

User: "Shawn Hearn"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	02 May 2004 02:05:09 PM

In article <T-ednRAWxYEQXg7d4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <

> wrote:

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afd6c11d8d7fc999897a6@news.individual.net...

In article <l6CdnY5Tk58nZg_d4p2dnA@comcast.com>,

says...

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afca8e0a130e3c9897a5@news.individual.net...

In article <tPmdndkqk5dIzg_dRVn-sw@comcast.com>,

says...

You already started the spin...you attacked the panel

Bush's team already spun it and so did fox news.

No, they simply reported what panel members had to say.

Evidence?

Ask Bush/Cheney for the evidence. You and they are claiming the
interview session with the 9/11 commission went well. Where is your
evidence to support that? Quoting two partisans is hardly evidence.
The truth is, Bush refused to have anything he said put on the record
because he knows the record will make him look bad; why else would Bush
oppose even his fellow Republicans recording what he had to say?
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	01 May 2004 11:11:13 AM

In article <T-ednRAWxYEQXg7d4p2dnA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<

> wrote:

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afd6c11d8d7fc999897a6@news.individual.net...

In article <l6CdnY5Tk58nZg_d4p2dnA@comcast.com>,

says...

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1afca8e0a130e3c9897a5@news.individual.net...

In article <tPmdndkqk5dIzg_dRVn-sw@comcast.com>,

says...

You already started the spin...you attacked the panel

Bush's team already spun it and so did fox news.

No, they simply reported what panel members had to say.

Evidence?

His point was that there isn't any evidence. Try to keep up.

I just wanted to get a jump on it and see what the spin liberals were

going

to use.

If you don't think that the whitehouse spins things then you're living
in a fantasy world.

I didn't say the Whitehouse, I said the liberals..like the liberals in here.
I just wanted to see the spin they would attempt to try.

You are falling behind again.

From O'Neill to Clarke to Woodward they've all

confirmed that bush distorts and doctors data in an unprecedentedly
dishonest manner.

It is fun watching liberals jump and spin,

If you like spin then watch fox news, because that's pretty much the
only thing they ever do.

Is that why they are so popular and beat CNN in the ratings?

Heishman equates "popular" with "honest." People watch FOC News
because it is entertaining. Hell, I watch Fox NEWS. It is funny as
hell! It is the same reason liberals listen to Limbaugh. It conforms
in us about conservatives what we already suspected.
And (write this down, Heishman) if Bush were to win the Presidency for
the first time this November, that would mean he won more votes
(hopefully...). It doesn't make him a good, honest, or intelligent
President. He is a boob, like you, and he will always be a boob.
Reagan was poor, but popular. Bush has this whole "war" thing going
for him which makes him hard to beat. Men and women are dying in this
fake "war" so Bush can be reelected. That is why he is waiting until
after the election to begin drafting people.

Of course you originally cited a link to fox

news and then asked about the liberal spin.

Yea, and all the other news sources had basically the same story.

It could never happen. The others are "news" agencies. Fox is the
Republican News Network.

You clearly don't seem to

realize the enormous amount of right wing spin already taking place.

I am starting to really enjoy
trying to predict and
see what direction they are going to go.

Stay tuned, if Bush's ratings start to go back up...you will see more
spin..:o)

Nope. You're a few revs behind. Kerry is back to leading bush in a
number of polls,

Wrong

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2004/04/01/kerry_leads_bush_nationally.
html
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/15/student.poll/
http://www.startribune.com/stories/784/4702737.html
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2004/04/01/kerry_leads_bush_nationally.
html

Bush leads Kerry in the polls that ask who they prefer to fight against
terrorism

So?

Kerry leads ONLY in the polls about the economy

A lie, but what does that tell you?

As far as a run for the White House, Bush is about 1 percentage point above
Kerry

In the poll you looked at. And one point is ERROR.

These polls will change of course

You think, Mr. Wizard?

nader has leaked that he's about to drop out, Kerry's

Well hope you are around if Bush wins..I will be expecting to see some
excuse or something from you and other liberals.

Excuse for what?
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 01:03:54 AM

In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance. What will their spin
be???

What a sad commentary on Bush. He didn't have to turn to anyone for
guidance. And Heishman thinks that is something to be proud of.
.

User: "osprey"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 05:56:56 AM

"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message news:<290420042303544239%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com>...

In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance. What will their spin
be???

What a sad commentary on Bush. He didn't have to turn to anyone for
guidance. And Heishman thinks that is something to be proud of.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,118522,00.html
"Ninety-nine percent of the questions were directed to the president,"
one of two participants in the Oval Office meeting that spoke to Fox
News said. "He answered them all ... and didn't have to turn to anyone
for guidance," said another. "He knew them all."
Sources also told Fox News "everyone got to ask all the questions they
could think of." Some of the questioning was sharp but the president
answered all questions in a "direct and businesslike manner."
.

User: "Shawn Hearn"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 06:47:18 PM

In article <8912d58d.0404300256.35765a5d@posting.google.com>,

(osprey) wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:<290420042303544239%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com>...

In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>, osprey
<

> wrote:

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance. What will their spin
be???

What a sad commentary on Bush. He didn't have to turn to anyone for
guidance. And Heishman thinks that is something to be proud of.

"He knew them all?" Then why was Cheney asked to go with Bush
to the questioning session and why did Bush and Cheney refuse
to testify ON THE RECORD and UNDER OATH?
.

User: "Osprey"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	30 Apr 2004 06:50:02 PM

"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-24CA58.19471830042004@news-60.giganews.com...

In article <8912d58d.0404300256.35765a5d@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:<290420042303544239%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com>...

In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance. What will their spin
be???

What a sad commentary on Bush. He didn't have to turn to anyone for
guidance. And Heishman thinks that is something to be proud of.

"He knew them all?" Then why was Cheney asked to go with Bush
to the questioning session and why did Bush and Cheney refuse
to testify ON THE RECORD and UNDER OATH?

I don't see any other politicians having any problem with his testimony.
Naturally liberals are going to flip and flop now because he got a favorable
report.
.

User: "Shawn Hearn"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	02 May 2004 10:37:42 AM

In article <Ku-dnf8AL_R0eA_dRVn-gg@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Shawn Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-24CA58.19471830042004@news-60.giganews.com...

In article <8912d58d.0404300256.35765a5d@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:<290420042303544239%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com>...

In article <8912d58d.0404292158.18b7261e@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

How are liberals going to react? Bush answered the questions and
didn't have to turn to anyone for guidance. What will their spin
be???

What a sad commentary on Bush. He didn't have to turn to anyone for
guidance. And Heishman thinks that is something to be proud of.

"He knew them all?" Then why was Cheney asked to go with Bush
to the questioning session and why did Bush and Cheney refuse
to testify ON THE RECORD and UNDER OATH?

I don't see any other politicians having any problem with his testimony.
Naturally liberals are going to flip and flop now because he got a favorable
report.

Of course Republicans are going to defend Bush's evasiveness. Would you
expect otherwise?
.

User: "David W. Barnes"
Title: Re: Bush handled most questions for 9/11 panel	02 May 2004 10:55:28 AM

In article <srhi-07B414.11374202052004@news-60.giganews.com>, Shawn
Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote: