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"David W. Barnes" |
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01 May 2004 06:30:39 PM |
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Bush Needs To Go |
At what point do we accept the fact that Bush has totally botched this
"war" he claims was so damn important? Do we really have to have EVERY
country in the world hate us?
At least in Japan, when a leader screws up as bad as Bush has, he has
the dignity to step down. Bush goes on vacation.
Bush needs to accept responsibility for his actions. This latest screw
up is reprehensible. We are clearly in far more danger of terrorist
attacks than ever. Bush has taken a country were a few people hated us
and turned it into a country where most hate us.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/01/iraq.prisoner.reax/index.html
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
14 May 2004 07:47:26 PM |
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RainLover <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message news:<gjv7a05sa1f7q5do2t8564pcok2vd4ev4l@4ax.com>...
On 13 May 2004 13:34:08 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
I have been to Europe 9 times - England, Sweden, Norway, Germany,
France, Spain, Italy, Greece and turkey. I have been to Australia,
China and Japan. They all talk about America, they all love America
and they all make sure their kids can Speak English.
Since you accuse me of never having traveled the world, where have you
been?
Yes, I've done a little traveling in my life... England, Sweden, Norway,
Germany, France, Italy, Ireland, Scotland, Greece, Turkey, Egypt, Madagascar,
South Africa, Israel, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan, Singapore, South
Korea, and I've LIVED in Italy and Tehran, Iran.
And you're right... most of them love America, but if you ever talked politics
with them, most do NOT like US policies towards THEM or other countries.
Thank God most PEOPLE in other countries understand the difference between us
and our government.
Oh, and by the way, I'm a democrat but I will probably vote for Bush
this year because the Democratic Party leadership doesn't understand
the threats in the world today and is trying to raise my taxes.
Right. You're a Democrat going to vote for Bush... whatever you say.
Thats right. I support every position of the Democratic party except
national security and taxes. If the Democrats would just stop trying
to raise taxes on the middle class every year and blowing off national
defense like Clinton did then I would vote democratic in every
election.
It appears their solution is to appease to everyone else.
Ah.. to Appease.... to find a peaceful solution. It doesn't always mean we
get EVERYTHING WE WANT, but it does mean people don't die.
Only in your fantasies.
Clinton was a great appeaser and 3,000 people died at the hands of
terrorists who moved to this country and trained on his watch.
Take a look at some of the victims of Clinton's appeasement
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/wtcjumpers.html
It seems that you only care if non Americans die. thats a tragedy.
If Americans die then it seems your thinking is that those Americans
deserved it.
I'm all for diplomacy and peace... and compromise... something GW is dead
against. Remember, it's NOT 'giving in' it's compromise... a huge
difference.
Bush doesn't compromise with killers and terrorists. I notice that he
also doesn't kiss France's back side very well either. thats fine
with me.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
14 May 2004 08:05:19 PM |
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"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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RainLover <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
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On 13 May 2004 13:34:08 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
I have been to Europe 9 times - England, Sweden, Norway, Germany,
France, Spain, Italy, Greece and turkey. I have been to Australia,
China and Japan. They all talk about America, they all love America
and they all make sure their kids can Speak English.
Since you accuse me of never having traveled the world, where have
you
been?
Yes, I've done a little traveling in my life... England, Sweden,
Norway,
Germany, France, Italy, Ireland, Scotland, Greece, Turkey, Egypt,
Madagascar,
South Africa, Israel, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan, Singapore,
South
Korea, and I've LIVED in Italy and Tehran, Iran.
And you're right... most of them love America, but if you ever talked
politics
with them, most do NOT like US policies towards THEM or other countries.
Thank God most PEOPLE in other countries understand the difference
between us
and our government.
Oh, and by the way, I'm a democrat but I will probably vote for Bush
this year because the Democratic Party leadership doesn't understand
the threats in the world today and is trying to raise my taxes.
Right. You're a Democrat going to vote for Bush... whatever you say.
Thats right. I support every position of the Democratic party except
national security and taxes. If the Democrats would just stop trying
to raise taxes on the middle class every year and blowing off national
defense like Clinton did then I would vote democratic in every
election.
I'd have to agree.
The only decent Democrat I have seen come out lately has been Jonathan
Edwards.
I also respect Joe Lieberman as well.
It appears their solution is to appease to everyone else.
Ah.. to Appease.... to find a peaceful solution. It doesn't always mean
we
get EVERYTHING WE WANT, but it does mean people don't die.
Only in your fantasies.
Clinton was a great appeaser and 3,000 people died at the hands of
terrorists who moved to this country and trained on his watch.
Take a look at some of the victims of Clinton's appeasement
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/wtcjumpers.html
It seems that you only care if non Americans die. thats a tragedy.
If Americans die then it seems your thinking is that those Americans
deserved it.
I'm all for diplomacy and peace... and compromise... something GW is
dead
against. Remember, it's NOT 'giving in' it's compromise... a huge
difference.
Bush doesn't compromise with killers and terrorists.
Bush, like many people who look at reality, know you can't compramise with
killers and terrorist.
I notice that he
also doesn't kiss France's back side very well either. thats fine
with me.
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| User: "Citizen" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
15 May 2004 03:26:41 AM |
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Osprey wrote:
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a258afb5.0405141647.7d1f9d50@posting.google.com...
RainLover <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:<gjv7a05sa1f7q5do2t8564pcok2vd4ev4l@4ax.com>...
On 13 May 2004 13:34:08 -0700, (osprey) wrote:
I have been to Europe 9 times - England, Sweden, Norway, Germany,
France, Spain, Italy, Greece and turkey. I have been to Australia,
China and Japan. They all talk about America, they all love America
and they all make sure their kids can Speak English.
Since you accuse me of never having traveled the world, where have
you
been?
Yes, I've done a little traveling in my life... England, Sweden,
Norway,
Germany, France, Italy, Ireland, Scotland, Greece, Turkey, Egypt,
Madagascar,
South Africa, Israel, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan, Singapore,
South
Korea, and I've LIVED in Italy and Tehran, Iran.
And you're right... most of them love America, but if you ever talked
politics
with them, most do NOT like US policies towards THEM or other countries.
Thank God most PEOPLE in other countries understand the difference
between us
and our government.
Oh, and by the way, I'm a democrat but I will probably vote for Bush
this year because the Democratic Party leadership doesn't understand
the threats in the world today and is trying to raise my taxes.
Right. You're a Democrat going to vote for Bush... whatever you say.
Thats right. I support every position of the Democratic party except
national security and taxes. If the Democrats would just stop trying
to raise taxes on the middle class every year and blowing off national
defense like Clinton did then I would vote democratic in every
election.
I'd have to agree.
The only decent Democrat I have seen come out lately has been Jonathan
Edwards.
I also respect Joe Lieberman as well.
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(Those men seem remarkably intellignet by the way.)
Truth be told, we don't know how things would have been handled had a
democrat been in officer, had the democrats been more in control than
the republicans.
I hate to see you generalizing about democrats the way you did, but at
the same time, I feel that there are a few thigns I could say about
republicans.
I will say that I was releaved that we had a republican in office after
the attack. And, someone who could easily confer with ex-president Bush
who I thought was a fine president. I agree that democrats are weaker
in terms of foreign policy. Looking at the history and reasons - they
seem to mix morality with foreign policy to a further degree. The
deaths of innocent men and women being the main problem I think.
Saying that you prefer less morality in foreign policy doesn't sound
very nice, does it? It is a sad statement regarding the statement of
development of the world. There's a long way to go it seems. If I do
vote for Bush in the coming election, it will be because Kerry's
policies regarding Iraq, and other problem spots, seem weak to me.
Citizen
It appears their solution is to appease to everyone else.
Ah.. to Appease.... to find a peaceful solution. It doesn't always mean
we
get EVERYTHING WE WANT, but it does mean people don't die.
Only in your fantasies.
Clinton was a great appeaser and 3,000 people died at the hands of
terrorists who moved to this country and trained on his watch.
Take a look at some of the victims of Clinton's appeasement
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/wtcjumpers.html
It seems that you only care if non Americans die. thats a tragedy.
If Americans die then it seems your thinking is that those Americans
deserved it.
I'm all for diplomacy and peace... and compromise... something GW is
dead
against. Remember, it's NOT 'giving in' it's compromise... a huge
difference.
Bush doesn't compromise with killers and terrorists.
Bush, like many people who look at reality, know you can't compramise with
killers and terrorist.
I notice that he
also doesn't kiss France's back side very well either. thats fine
with me.
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| User: "No One" |
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15 May 2004 01:46:07 AM |
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(Mark Fox) writes:
Thats right. I support every position of the Democratic party except
national security and taxes. If the Democrats would just stop trying
to raise taxes on the middle class every year and blowing off national
defense like Clinton did then I would vote democratic in every
election.
Bush is a disaster for defense. He's ***** good chunks of the
rest of the world just when we need all the friends we can get,
particularly in countries where Osama can hide out easily unless
locals cooperate to turn him in. The U.S. military handled the Iraqis
even more easily than in the first war due primarily to Clinton's
defense programs. With decade long procurements, Bush couldn't have
done squat in three years.
As to taxes, the middle class got to go out to a couple of movies with
their tax break. The wealthy few made out like bandits. Meanwhile
the national dept is sky high, with long term negative economic
consequences that will put the middle class through the wringer. If
you save $100 a year on taxes and end up paying $200 a year extra on a
car loan due to higher interest rates driven up by the deficit, you do
not come out ahead.
If you shortchange research and development, and something has to give
when you are living beyond your means, the research will get done in
Asia, and the U.S. will fall behind. As we go down the tubes
economically, our military will end up no longer being the most
advanced in the world, and we'll get our butts kicked just as badly as
the Iraqi army got theirs kicked fighting against us.
Meanwhile, Bush is busy catering to a bunch of fools who are running
around in a tither because a few people will get married this Monday
in Massachusetts. Kind of like Nero while Rome burned.
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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15 May 2004 08:23:33 AM |
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No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<m3wu3ejilb.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>...
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
Thats right. I support every position of the Democratic party except
national security and taxes. If the Democrats would just stop trying
to raise taxes on the middle class every year and blowing off national
defense like Clinton did then I would vote democratic in every
election.
Bush is a disaster for defense. He's ***** good chunks of the
rest of the world just when we need all the friends we can get,
No. He has only ***** you. The rest of the world is fine and
you don't speak for them. Neither does the liberal media.
particularly in countries where Osama can hide out easily unless
locals cooperate to turn him in.
"countries where Osama can hide out"??? Like, perhaps, Pakistan??
George Bush turned Pakistan from a neutral country into a close ally
of the United States in the war on terror. What you don't understand
is that only a very few countries that are irrelevant to the war on
terror are against the United States. Those countries have no
importance to the world. Bush and Rumsfeld know that. I would much
rather have terrorists rounded up and put in prison than waste time
helping you feel good about kissing France's back side.
The U.S. military handled the Iraqis
even more easily than in the first war due primarily to Clinton's
defense programs. With decade long procurements, Bush couldn't have
done squat in three years.
Funny how you claim nothing can be accomplished in three years with
the military but you claim that Bush caused the recession that started
one month before he took office. You should try to keep all your lies
consistent.
As to taxes, the middle class got to go out to a couple of movies with
their tax break. The wealthy few made out like bandits. Meanwhile
the national dept is sky high, with long term negative economic
consequences that will put the middle class through the wringer.
negative economic consequences? Is that why there are one million new
jobs since the bottom of Bill Clinton's recession?
Oh, this is rich! we are about to see a clever set of word games
explaining why your taxes can go up and its really less taxes but if
President Bush lowers your taxes they are really going up. LOL! I
giggle every time I see a liberal try to play this cash flow shell
game.
If
you save $100 a year on taxes and end up paying $200 a year extra on a
car loan due to higher interest rates driven up by the deficit, you do
not come out ahead.
Hey, Bone Head, you forgot that interest rates are the lowest in 40
years. Right now you are paying $100 less in taxes and $200 less in
interest on your new car loan.
If you shortchange research and development, and something has to give
when you are living beyond your means, the research will get done in
Asia, and the U.S. will fall behind. As we go down the tubes
economically, our military will end up no longer being the most
advanced in the world, and we'll get our butts kicked just as badly as
the Iraqi army got theirs kicked fighting against us.
So why did you support Clinton and Gore who cut military spending
which went to research and development?
Meanwhile, Bush is busy catering to a bunch of fools who are running
around in a tither because a few people will get married this Monday
in Massachusetts.
Bush is catering to the generals who are fighting the war on
terrorism. He has proclaimed that whatever resources they need they
will get. You seem to be the one in a tither about gay marriage. I
hardly ever hear Bush mention it.
I don't have a problem with gay marriage. As I told you, I'm a
democrat. I think Gays have as much a right to be married as anyone
else. Your treasonous tax and spend policies are why I vote for Bush.
If you make me choose between lower taxes and gay marriage I will
choose lower taxes every time. This is why the Democratic Party is
failing. They don't get it. They better wake up or they will lose
again.
Kind of like Nero while Rome burned.
Take a peek at what it looks like for Rome to be burning thanks to
Bill Clinton and Jamie Gorelick forbidding the FBI from tracking down
the terrorists who lived in the USA and plotted to kill Americans.
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/wtcjumpers.html
Bush is not fiddling. Bush climbed up on that smoldering heap where
the world trade center once stood and said he will respond. Today he
is responding while you are complaining.
Support your President in the war on terror. Stop being a treasonous
coward trying to kiss up to the French and the Germans.
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| User: "No One" |
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15 May 2004 01:50:52 PM |
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(Mark Fox) writes:
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<m3wu3ejilb.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>...
(Mark Fox) writes:
Thats right. I support every position of the Democratic party except
national security and taxes. If the Democrats would just stop trying
to raise taxes on the middle class every year and blowing off national
defense like Clinton did then I would vote democratic in every
election.
Bush is a disaster for defense. He's ***** good chunks of the
rest of the world just when we need all the friends we can get,
No. He has only ***** you. The rest of the world is fine and
you don't speak for them. Neither does the liberal media.
Odd. A person who recently returned from a trip to India mentioned
that practically *everyone* there despises Bush. Is there any need
to go on?
"countries where Osama can hide out"??? Like, perhaps, Pakistan??
George Bush turned Pakistan from a neutral country into a close ally
of the United States in the war on terror.
Oh please. The cooperation he is getting was due to fear of what we
would do to them. BTW, Pakistan was never unfriendly towards the
U.S. - its main external concern is its squabble with India.
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries that are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up and put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly Lion
administration from bothering them.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he needs.
The U.S. military handled the Iraqis
even more easily than in the first war due primarily to Clinton's
defense programs. With decade long procurements, Bush couldn't have
done squat in three years.
Funny how you claim nothing can be accomplished in three years with
the military but you claim that Bush caused the recession that started
one month before he took office. You should try to keep all your lies
consistent.
You fucking moron! I said Bush racked up a huge national debt,
exascerbated by his tax cuts, with long term consequences, and
never mentioned the recession. Before accusing people of lying,
you might try reading what they actually said.
As to taxes, the middle class got to go out to a couple of movies with
their tax break. The wealthy few made out like bandits. Meanwhile
the national dept is sky high, with long term negative economic
consequences that will put the middle class through the wringer.
negative economic consequences? Is that why there are one million new
jobs since the bottom of Bill Clinton's recession?
Oh. It's Bill Clinton's recession. You Bushies blame Clinton for
everything, and take no responsibility for your own screwups. It
is always someone else's fault.
Oh, this is rich! we are about to see a clever set of word games
explaining why your taxes can go up and its really less taxes but if
President Bush lowers your taxes they are really going up. LOL! I
giggle every time I see a liberal try to play this cash flow shell
game.
If
you save $100 a year on taxes and end up paying $200 a year extra on a
car loan due to higher interest rates driven up by the deficit, you do
not come out ahead.
Hey, Bone Head, you forgot that interest rates are the lowest in 40
years. Right now you are paying $100 less in taxes and $200 less in
interest on your new car loan.
Are you so stupid as to not know the difference between a transient
drop in interest rates, due to a weak economy, and the long term
consequences as federal borrowing increases to pay off the bill?
If you shortchange research and development, and something has to give
when you are living beyond your means, the research will get done in
Asia, and the U.S. will fall behind. As we go down the tubes
economically, our military will end up no longer being the most
advanced in the world, and we'll get our butts kicked just as badly as
the Iraqi army got theirs kicked fighting against us.
So why did you support Clinton and Gore who cut military spending
which went to research and development?
They cut out ineffective programs, and made adjustments appropriate
to the end of the cold war.
Meanwhile, Bush is busy catering to a bunch of fools who are running
around in a tither because a few people will get married this Monday
in Massachusetts.
Bush is catering to the generals who are fighting the war on
terrorism. He has proclaimed that whatever resources they need they
will get. You seem to be the one in a tither about gay marriage. I
hardly ever hear Bush mention it.
He wants a consitutional ammendment to outlaw gay marriage, and you
think he is not all in a tither????
Support your President in the war on terror. Stop being a treasonous
coward trying to kiss up to the French and the Germans.
Why don't you use the original language and just shout "Sieg Heil."
Just look at what went on in Bush's torture chambers. Perhaps
like Bush and (now) Rumsfeld, you don't read the newspapers.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
15 May 2004 03:14:36 PM |
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No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries that are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up and put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the end of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
FYI
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
15 May 2004 03:25:15 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c85tnc$8gp$1@bolt.sonic.net...
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries that are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up and put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
You forget the 80's
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the end of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and supported, he
rather see them die
FYI
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
15 May 2004 05:35:46 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c85tnc$8gp$1@bolt.sonic.net...
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries that are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up and put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
***** off, *****. You're too much a moron to know which end
you're supposed to ***** with much less the state of world politics.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the end of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and supported,
***** Heishman LIKES spending all his money to kill and torture
innocent people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
15 May 2004 05:53:38 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86601$ikh$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c85tnc$8gp$1@bolt.sonic.net...
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries that are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up and put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
***** off, *****. You're too much a moron to know which end
you're supposed to ***** with much less the state of world politics.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the end of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and supported,
***** Heishman LIKES spending all his money to kill and torture
innocent people.
Moron Ray would rather hold funds back and make sure our troops are not
supported
and they die as a result
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
15 May 2004 06:19:34 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86601$ikh$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c85tnc$8gp$1@bolt.sonic.net...
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries that are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up and put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
***** off, *****. You're too much a moron to know which end
you're supposed to ***** with much less the state of world politics.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the end of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and supported,
***** Heishman LIKES spending all his money to kill and torture
innocent people.
Moron Ray would rather hold funds back and make sure our troops are not
supported
Heishman WANTS to see US troops die in Iraq. He's been in favor of
sending them die in war.
Most sane people did want to send them to Iraq for Bush's lies.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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15 May 2004 06:23:45 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86601$ikh$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries that
are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and
Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up and
put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
***** off, *****. You're too much a moron to know which end
you're supposed to ***** with much less the state of world politics.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the end of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and supported,
***** Heishman LIKES spending all his money to kill and torture
innocent people.
Moron Ray would rather hold funds back and make sure our troops are not
supported
Heishman WANTS to see US troops
finish the job in Iraq, get the equipment they need so they survive and come
home sooner.
Fischer wants to withold funds so they stay longer and die needlessly
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
15 May 2004 07:34:17 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c868i5$kvj$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86601$ikh$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries that
are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and
Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up and
put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
***** off, *****. You're too much a moron to know which end
you're supposed to ***** with much less the state of world politics.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the end of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and supported,
***** Heishman LIKES spending all his money to kill and torture
innocent people.
Moron Ray would rather hold funds back and make sure our troops are not
supported
Heishman WANTS to see US troops
finish the job in Iraq,
Heishman wants to keep Americans dying in Iraq.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
15 May 2004 07:44:06 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c868i5$kvj$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c85tnc$8gp$1@bolt.sonic.net...
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries
that
are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and
Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up and
put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear
weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
***** off, *****. You're too much a moron to know which end
you're supposed to ***** with much less the state of world politics.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our
security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the end
of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and
supported,
***** Heishman LIKES spending all his money to kill and torture
innocent people.
Moron Ray would rather hold funds back and make sure our troops are
not
supported
Heishman WANTS to see US troops
finish the job in Iraq,
Heishman wants to
See America finish the job in Iraq and get our troops home.
Fischer wants them to die and stop the funding that will go towards
their supplies, armorment, and other necessities
Fischer still following my post.
He lied when he says he isn't interested in my opinion
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
15 May 2004 08:04:38 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86cu8$nub$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c868i5$kvj$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86601$ikh$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c85tnc$8gp$1@bolt.sonic.net...
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries
that
are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and
Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up and
put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear
weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
***** off, *****. You're too much a moron to know which end
you're supposed to ***** with much less the state of world politics.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our
security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the end
of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and
supported,
***** Heishman LIKES spending all his money to kill and torture
innocent people.
Moron Ray would rather hold funds back and make sure our troops are
not
supported
Heishman WANTS to see US troops
finish the job in Iraq,
Heishman wants to
See America finish the job in Iraq and get our troops home.
Heishman wants to keep Americans dying in Iraq.
So what if hundreds of Americans and thousands of Iraqis dies.
***** Heishman has to save face and "finish" a job that never
needed to be done.
Fischer wants them to die
See the evil and hatred typical of Heishman. There is no lie
that he won't spew, no evil that he won't promote in order to
"win".
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
15 May 2004 08:40:10 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86cu8$nub$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86601$ikh$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c85tnc$8gp$1@bolt.sonic.net...
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries
that
are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United
States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and
Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up
and
put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about
kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's
macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear
weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly
Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
***** off, *****. You're too much a moron to know which end
you're supposed to ***** with much less the state of world
politics.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our
security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear
sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he
needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the
end
of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and
supported,
***** Heishman LIKES spending all his money to kill and torture
innocent people.
Moron Ray would rather hold funds back and make sure our troops are
not
supported
Heishman WANTS to see US troops
finish the job in Iraq,
Heishman wants to
See America finish the job in Iraq and get our troops home.
Heishman wants to keep Americans
Safe
Yes, Ray, that is what I want. I want for our country to be secure and to
fight back against terrorist.
8
So what if hundreds of Americans and thousands of Iraqis dies.
If we thought like you in WWII, we would be speaking German
***** Heishman has to save face and "finish" a job that never
needed to be done.
Needed to be done, and is being done.
Fischer wants them to die
See the evil and hatred typical of Heishman. There is no lie
that he won't spew, no evil that he won't promote in order to
"win".
No lie at all, you don't care about life at all...you just care more about
bitching
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
15 May 2004 11:17:50 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86en5$prq$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86cu8$nub$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c868i5$kvj$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86601$ikh$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c85tnc$8gp$1@bolt.sonic.net...
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries
that
are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United
States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and
Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up
and
put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about
kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's
macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear
weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly
Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
***** off, *****. You're too much a moron to know which end
you're supposed to ***** with much less the state of world
politics.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our
security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear
sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he
needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the
end
of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and
supported,
***** Heishman LIKES spending all his money to kill and torture
innocent people.
Moron Ray would rather hold funds back and make sure our troops are
not
supported
Heishman WANTS to see US troops
finish the job in Iraq,
Heishman wants to
See America finish the job in Iraq and get our troops home.
Heishman wants to keep Americans
Safe
Heishman has supported a war which has killed hundreds
of Americans and thousands of Iraqis. That's not "safe".
That's dead, and Heishman doesn't care who dies.
Yes, Ray, that is what I want.
People dead.
I want for our country to be secure and to
fight back against terrorist.
And how many millions will have to die before little cowards like
you get to feel "safe"?
So what if hundreds of Americans and thousands of Iraqis dies.
If we thought like you in WWII,
Because of people like you the Nazis gained power and invaded
one nation after the next, killing millions of people in the
process.
You care more about your selfish wants than you care about people
rights and people's lives.
***** Heishman has to save face and "finish" a job that never
needed to be done.
Needed to be done, and is being done.
Just like Poland needed to be invaded.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
16 May 2004 05:47:29 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c86q1e$2le$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
news:c86en5$prq$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
news:c86cu8$nub$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
news:c868i5$kvj$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
news:c86601$ikh$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
news:c85tnc$8gp$1@bolt.sonic.net...
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries
that
are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United
States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and
Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up
and
put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about
kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's
macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear
weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly
Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
***** off, *****. You're too much a moron to know which end
you're supposed to ***** with much less the state of world
politics.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our
security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear
sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he
needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the
end
of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and
supported,
***** Heishman LIKES spending all his money to kill and torture
innocent people.
Moron Ray would rather hold funds back and make sure our troops are
not
supported
Heishman WANTS to see US troops
finish the job in Iraq,
Heishman wants to
See America finish the job in Iraq and get our troops home.
Heishman wants to keep Americans
Safe
Heishman has supported a war which has killed hundreds
Of terrorist, yes I support that.
That's dead, and
Fischer doesn't care
Yes, Ray, that is what I want.
Terrorist dead.
Yes, that is what I want
I want for our country to be secure and to
fight back against terrorist.
And how many millions will have to die before little cowards like
you get to feel "safe"?
Millions? I don't care what the cost is if it is going to keep our
troops safe, protect them better, and keep this country secure.
As most Americans wouldn't care either. We want our troops to have
the best equipment and to be able to fight this war, end it, and come
home.
You don't care about their safety.
Imagine you, calling others coward when you can't even come out from
behind your key board...ROFL
So what if hundreds of Americans and thousands of Iraqis dies.
If we thought like you in WWII,
Because of people like you
Believe in fighting for our security in freedom...yes..that is true
You care more
Our troops and our security..yes that is true too
***** Heishman has to save face and "finish" a job that never
needed to be done.
Needed to be done, and is being done.
Just like Poland needed to be invaded.
I see no reason to invade Poland, I don't know what your beef with
Poland is about.
.
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
16 May 2004 09:32:36 AM |
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(osprey) wrote in message news:<8912d58d.0405160247.4114d550@posting.google.com>...
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c86q1e$2le$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86en5$prq$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86cu8$nub$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c868i5$kvj$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c86601$ikh$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey < > wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c85tnc$8gp$1@bolt.sonic.net...
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
What you don't understand is that only a very few countries
that
are
irrelevant to the war on terror are against the United
States.
Those countries have no importance to the world. Bush and
Rumsfeld
know that. I would much rather have terrorists rounded up
and
put
in prison than waste time helping you feel good about
kissing
France's back side.
You really are an idiot, aren't you. Bush and Rumsfeld's
macho
postering has encouraged North Korea to step up its nuclear
weapons
and missle program, in spite of being too poor to afford it,
figuring that being able to hit back will stop our Cowardly
Lion
administration from bothering them.
Terrorism is up worldwide, in large part due to US policies.
False
***** off, *****. You're too much a moron to know which end
you're supposed to ***** with much less the state of world
politics.
We wasted 150 billion on Iraq while a real threat to our
security,
poor security of radioactive waste at former USSR nuclear
sites,
could make it possible for Osama to get the materials he
needs.
The bill is now up to $210 billion. That's just through the
end
of
the year. Iraq is costing the US about $5 billion per month.
Ray doesn't want to make sure our troops are financed and
supported,
***** Heishman LIKES spending all his money to kill and torture
innocent people.
Moron Ray would rather hold funds back and make sure our troops are
not
supported
Heishman WANTS to see US troops
finish the job in Iraq,
Heishman wants to
See America finish the job in Iraq and get our troops home.
Heishman wants to keep Americans
Safe
Heishman has supported a war which has killed hundreds
Of terrorist, yes I support that.
That's dead, and
Fischer doesn't care
Yes, Ray, that is what I want.
Terrorist dead.
Yes, that is what I want
I want for our country to be secure and to
fight back against terrorist.
And how many millions will have to die before little cowards like
you get to feel "safe"?
Millions? I don't care what the cost is if it is going to keep our
troops safe, protect them better, and keep this country secure.
As most Americans wouldn't care either. We want our troops to have
the best equipment and to be able to fight this war, end it, and come
home.
You don't care about their safety.
Imagine you, calling others coward when you can't even come out from
behind your key board...ROFL
So what if hundreds of Americans and thousands of Iraqis dies.
If we thought like you in WWII,
Because of people like you
Believe in fighting for our security in freedom...yes..that is true
You care more
Our troops and our security..yes that is true too
***** Heishman has to save face and "finish" a job that never
needed to be done.
Needed to be done, and is being done.
Just like Poland needed to be invaded.
I see no reason to invade Poland, I don't know what your beef with
Poland is about.
Ray is confused. The argument is that Bush did well at stopping
Saddam after Saddam invaded Kuwait just like the world should have
done with Hitler when Hitler invaded Poland. Instead, the world chose
to appease Hitler just like Germany, France and Russia want to appease
Saddam. Because of that appeasement 61 million people died. How many
people would have died if President Bush hadn't done something about
Saddam when Saddam invaded his neighbors and then tried to build a
nuclear bomb? Could have been tens of millions. Are France, Germany,
Russia and Ray Fischer responsible for working to get millions of
people killed?
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
16 May 2004 11:17:55 AM |
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rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I want for our country to be secure and to
fight back against terrorist.
And how many millions will have to die before little cowards like
you get to feel "safe"?
61 million people died because the world tried to appease Hitler. How
many millions of people have to die, Ray, before you realize that
Saddam was a threat to the world?
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
16 May 2004 11:44:04 AM |
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In article <a258afb5.0405160817.22e4ae8d@posting.google.com>, Mark Fox wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I want for our country to be secure and to
fight back against terrorist.
And how many millions will have to die before little cowards like
you get to feel "safe"?
61 million people died because the world tried to appease Hitler. How
many millions of people have to die, Ray, before you realize that
Saddam was a threat to the world?
Colin Powell, Cairo, 24th February 2001:
"He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with
respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project
conventional power against his neighbours."
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Needs To Go |
16 May 2004 12:16:16 PM |
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Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I want for our country to be secure and to
fight back against terrorist.
And how many millions will have to die before little cowards like
you get to feel "safe"?
61 million people died because the world tried to appease Hitler.
And here you are appeasing the likes of Bush.
It's because people like YOU prefer war and killing to peace. YOU
support the invasion of Iraq just like those fools who supported
Hitler when he invaded Poland. YOU call for the killing of thousands
of people.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Adam H." |
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16 May 2004 12:17:58 PM |
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On 16 May 2004 09:17:55 -0700, (Mark Fox) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I want for our country to be secure and to
fight back against terrorist.
And how many millions will have to die before little cowards like
you get to feel "safe"?
61 million people died because the world tried to appease Hitler. How
many millions of people have to die, Ray, before you realize that
Saddam was a threat to the world?
How, precisely, was Hussein a threat to the world? I keep seeing these
comparisons of WWII and the recent invasion, but I never see any
*justification* for those comparisons - only rhetoric and the usual
already-debunked excuses.
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Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to
evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.
Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of,
the lack of evidence.
- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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16 May 2004 12:14:27 PM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c86q1e$2le$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Heishman wants to keep Americans
Safe
Heishman has supported a war which has killed hundreds
Of terrorist, yes I support that.
Heishman is now referring to US troops as terrorists.
How special.
That's dead, and
Fischer doesn't care
Even though I objected to this war from the beginning and Hieshman
was calling people like me "traitors".
I want for our country to be secure and to
fight back against terrorist.
And how many millions will have to die before little cowards like
you get to feel "safe"?
Millions?
How many?
I don't care what the cost is
100,000,000 dead but Heishman would care so long as he gets to feel
"safe".
Another bloodthirsty lunatic.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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16 May 2004 04:52:34 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c887hi$nre$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message
news:<c86q1e$2le$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Heishman wants to keep Americans
Safe
Heishman has supported a war which has killed hundreds
Of terrorist, yes I support that.
Heishman is now
As always stating the truth on how I feel and Ray Fischer is of course
distorting and lying
That's dead, and
Fischer doesn't care
Even though I
don't care..yes, you don't
I want for our country to be secure and to
fight back against terrorist.
And how many millions will have to die before little cowards like
you get to feel "safe"?
Millions?
How many?
I don't care what the cost is
100,000,000 dead but Heishman would care
as our troops get the right equipment to do the job
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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15 May 2004 01:23:51 PM |
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Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<m3wu3ejilb.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>...
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) writes:
Thats right. I support every position of the Democratic party except
national security and taxes. If the Democrats would just stop trying
to raise taxes on the middle class every year and blowing off national
defense like Clinton did then I would vote democratic in every
election.
Bush is a disaster for defense. He's ***** good chunks of the
rest of the world just when we need all the friends we can get,
No. He has only ***** you. The rest of the world is fine and
you don't speak for them. Neither does the liberal media.
Moral is down, a fourth of the US military has been shifted to Iraq,
the war is costing $5,000,000,000 per month, Bush has taken away from
fighting terrorism in order to invade Iraq, and worldwide terrorism is
increasing.
particularly in countries where Osama can hide out easily unless
locals cooperate to turn him in.
"countries where Osama can hide out"??? Like, perhaps, Pakistan??
An ally of the United States.
George Bush turned Pakistan from a neutral country into a close ally
of the United States in the war on terror.
Even though Pakistan is still a military dictatorship with nuclear
weapons that it has shared with several other nations.
In fact Bush has been buddies with several nations that eithe do
little to prevent terrorism or actively promote terrorism.
What you don't understand
is that only a very few countries that are irrelevant to the war on
terror are against the United States.
Is that what Bush tells you?
It's not true.
The U.S. military handled the Iraqis
even more easily than in the first war due primarily to Clinton's
defense programs. With decade long procurements, Bush couldn't have
done squat in three years.
Funny how you claim nothing can be accomplished in three years with
the military but you claim that Bush caused the recession that started
one month before he took office.
There are two lies in that statement. One is that the recession
started in 12/00 when it actually started in 3/01. The second lie is
that people are claiming Bush caused the recession.
As to taxes, the middle class got to go out to a couple of movies with
their tax break. The wealthy few made out like bandits. Meanwhile
the national dept is sky high, with long term negative economic
consequences that will put the middle class through the wringer.
negative economic consequences? Is that why there are one million new
jobs since the bottom of Bill Clinton's recession?
Is propaganda all you have? Bush is on track to be the first
president to end his term with fewer jobs than when he started.
And that despite the fact that he only had a mild recession to deal
with.
If
you save $100 a year on taxes and end up paying $200 a year extra on a
car loan due to higher interest rates driven up by the deficit, you do
not come out ahead.
Hey, Bone Head, you forgot that interest rates are the lowest in 40
years. Right now you are paying $100 less in taxes and $200 less in
interest on your new car loan.
In fact for every $100 is tax cuts you are paying about $700 in
additional taxes needed to pay interest in the national debt.
And that's with low interest rates. When interest rates go up,
the deficit will increase and the debt will ballon.
If you shortchange research and development, and something has to give
when you are living beyond your means, the research will get done in
Asia, and the U.S. will fall behind. As we go down the tubes
economically, our military will end up no longer being the most
advanced in the world, and we'll get our butts kicked just as badly as
the Iraqi army got theirs kicked fighting against us.
So why did you support Clinton and Gore who cut military spending
which went to research and development?
In fact military spending goes to military equipment and salaries.
The US is falling behind in developing new technology. Going by the
number of patents issued, the US has started to fall behind other
nations.
But when schools and universities get thier funding cut, when
engineering and technical jobs get sent overseas, then that's
an inevitable consequence.
Meanwhile, Bush is busy catering to a bunch of fools who are running
around in a tither because a few people will get married this Monday
in Massachusetts.
Bush is catering to the generals who are fighting the war on
terrorism.
That's another lie. Bush is promoting terrorism.
He has proclaimed that whatever resources they need they
will get.
But Bush says many things which are not true.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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