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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date: 01 Dec 2005 04:19:27 AM
Object: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason)
I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html
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aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2109 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
.

User: "€€R.L.Measures"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 01 Dec 2005 05:10:20 AM
In article <m4jto1pbhkopjpquno5mnna8uulcdsk03o@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

• Spoken like a True Believer Neo-con.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html


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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka

aka

Yang's little poltregeist *****)


The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than

Clinton and counting

The Bush Iraq lie: -2109 GIs, one friend's

co-worker's son and mounting


Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

-----


"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.

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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 01 Dec 2005 07:36:12 AM
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:10:20 -0800,
(€€R.L.Measures)
wrote:

In article <m4jto1pbhkopjpquno5mnna8uulcdsk03o@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

• Spoken like a True Believer Neo-con.

It takes practice...

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html


-----

Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka

aka

Yang's little poltregeist *****)


The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than

Clinton and counting

The Bush Iraq lie: -2109 GIs, one friend's

co-worker's son and mounting


Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

-----


"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.

-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2109 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
.
User: "€€R.L.Measures"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 01 Dec 2005 08:52:33 PM
In article <v1vto1tg7hfj85ece5bolbicdhua4i1poc@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:10:20 -0800,

(€€R.L.Measures)
wrote:

In article <m4jto1pbhkopjpquno5mnna8uulcdsk03o@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

• Spoken like a True Believer Neo-con.


It takes practice...


• chortle
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User: "Fester"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP,The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 06:20:47 AM
€€R.L.Measures wrote:

In article <v1vto1tg7hfj85ece5bolbicdhua4i1poc@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:


On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:10:20 -0800,

(€€R.L.Measures)
wrote:


In article <m4jto1pbhkopjpquno5mnna8uulcdsk03o@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:


I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.


• Spoken like a True Believer Neo-con.


It takes practice...



• chortle

Just curious, but what exactly do you object to here? Don't you want
the Iraqis to be informed about the good that we're doing for them?
Don't you want them to look favorably on the US? The articles, as I
have heard, contain content that is truthful, so what could possibly be
objecting to?
.
User: "€€R.L.Measures"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 11:53:54 AM
In article <43903C1F.9070403@home.com>, Fester <not@home.com> wrote:

€€R.L.Measures wrote:

In article <v1vto1tg7hfj85ece5bolbicdhua4i1poc@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:


On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:10:20 -0800,

(€€R.L.Measures)
wrote:


In article <m4jto1pbhkopjpquno5mnna8uulcdsk03o@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:


I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.


• Spoken like a True Believer Neo-con.


It takes practice...



• chortle


Just curious, but what exactly do you object to here? Don't you want
the Iraqis to be informed about the good that we're doing for them?
Don't you want them to look favorably on the US? The articles, as I
have heard, contain content that is truthful, so what could possibly be
objecting to?

• All newspaper articles should state who wrote the article and, where
applicable, who translated it. My take is that for the articles in
question, the source is not stated.
Truthfulness is often mixed with ***** in hopes that the total package
will be bought by the ignorant.
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User: "Fester"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP,The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 06:21:29 AM
€€R.L.Measures wrote:

In article <v1vto1tg7hfj85ece5bolbicdhua4i1poc@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:


On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:10:20 -0800,

(€€R.L.Measures)
wrote:


In article <m4jto1pbhkopjpquno5mnna8uulcdsk03o@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:


I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.


• Spoken like a True Believer Neo-con.


It takes practice...



• chortle

Just curious, but what exactly do you object to here? Don't you want
the Iraqis to be informed about the good that we're doing for them?
Don't you want them to look favorably on the US? The articles, as I
have heard, contain content that is truthful, so what could possibly be
objecting to?
.
User: "Malibu Skipper"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP,The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 10:19:49 AM
Fester wrote:

Just curious, but what exactly do you object to here? Don't you want
the Iraqis to be informed about the good that we're doing for them?
Don't you want them to look favorably on the US? The articles, as I
have heard, contain content that is truthful, so what could possibly be
objecting to?

Um... the fact that the articles were government propaganda dishonestly
presented as the work of Iraqi journalists, at a time when we're
allegedly trying to teach Iraqi about things like the importance of a
free press?
The fact that, in the twenty-first century, things like this are almost
bound to be revealed, thus giving a far more potent propaganda tool to
the insurgents than the one the US was originally trying to wield?
I dunno, just tossing out ideas here.
.
User: "Fester"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP,The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 06:04:53 PM
Malibu Skipper wrote:

Fester wrote:

Just curious, but what exactly do you object to here? Don't you want
the Iraqis to be informed about the good that we're doing for them?
Don't you want them to look favorably on the US? The articles, as I
have heard, contain content that is truthful, so what could possibly
be objecting to?



Um... the fact that the articles were government propaganda dishonestly
presented as the work of Iraqi journalists, at a time when we're
allegedly trying to teach Iraqi about things like the importance of a
free press?

The fact that, in the twenty-first century, things like this are almost
bound to be revealed, thus giving a far more potent propaganda tool to
the insurgents than the one the US was originally trying to wield?

I dunno, just tossing out ideas here.

When I see a reasonable idea tossed out there, I'll let you know.
.
User: "G-Ride"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 06:32:43 PM
"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote in message
news:Fi5kf.479$TU6.224736@twister.southeast.rr.com...

Malibu Skipper wrote:

Fester wrote:

Just curious, but what exactly do you object to here? Don't you want
the Iraqis to be informed about the good that we're doing for them?
Don't you want them to look favorably on the US? The articles, as I
have heard, contain content that is truthful, so what could possibly
be objecting to?



Um... the fact that the articles were government propaganda dishonestly
presented as the work of Iraqi journalists, at a time when we're
allegedly trying to teach Iraqi about things like the importance of a
free press?

The fact that, in the twenty-first century, things like this are almost
bound to be revealed, thus giving a far more potent propaganda tool to
the insurgents than the one the US was originally trying to wield?

I dunno, just tossing out ideas here.


When I see a reasonable idea tossed out there, I'll let you know.

If you can't see them yet, I'd suggest you don't hold your breath.
--
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User: "Jim07D5"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 06:51:25 PM
Fester <not@home.com> said:

Malibu Skipper wrote:

Fester wrote:

Just curious, but what exactly do you object to here? Don't you want
the Iraqis to be informed about the good that we're doing for them?
Don't you want them to look favorably on the US? The articles, as I
have heard, contain content that is truthful, so what could possibly
be objecting to?



Um... the fact that the articles were government propaganda dishonestly
presented as the work of Iraqi journalists, at a time when we're
allegedly trying to teach Iraqi about things like the importance of a
free press?

The fact that, in the twenty-first century, things like this are almost
bound to be revealed, thus giving a far more potent propaganda tool to
the insurgents than the one the US was originally trying to wield?

I dunno, just tossing out ideas here.


When I see a reasonable idea tossed out there, I'll let you know.

When you *see* a reasonable idea, we will all want to be informed.
--- Jim07D5
.

User: "Malibu Skipper"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP,The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 06:39:07 PM
Fester wrote:

Malibu Skipper wrote:

Fester wrote:

Just curious, but what exactly do you object to here? Don't you want
the Iraqis to be informed about the good that we're doing for them?
Don't you want them to look favorably on the US? The articles, as I
have heard, contain content that is truthful, so what could possibly
be objecting to?




Um... the fact that the articles were government propaganda
dishonestly presented as the work of Iraqi journalists, at a time when
we're allegedly trying to teach Iraqi about things like the importance
of a free press?

The fact that, in the twenty-first century, things like this are
almost bound to be revealed, thus giving a far more potent propaganda
tool to the insurgents than the one the US was originally trying to
wield?

I dunno, just tossing out ideas here.



When I see a reasonable idea tossed out there, I'll let you know.

Well, at any rate, it's clear you didn't see one you could refute...
.



User: "Bill K."

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 01:12:36 PM
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:21:29 +0000, Fester wrote:

€€R.L.Measures wrote:

In article <v1vto1tg7hfj85ece5bolbicdhua4i1poc@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:


On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:10:20 -0800,

(€€R.L.Measures)
wrote:


In article <m4jto1pbhkopjpquno5mnna8uulcdsk03o@4ax.com>, "Yang, AthD
(h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:


I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.


• Spoken like a True Believer Neo-con.


It takes practice...



• chortle


Just curious, but what exactly do you object to here? Don't you want
the Iraqis to be informed about the good that we're doing for them?
Don't you want them to look favorably on the US? The articles, as I
have heard, contain content that is truthful, so what could possibly be
objecting to?

You hit on it! They object to "truthful" reporting on Iraq.
.





User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 01:52:16 PM
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:19:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

Just like torture! Ah, Christian Morality. I'm *so* glad Bush
brought morality back to the White House, but the world would have
been better off if he would have settled for a *****.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html

US paying Iraqi press to run favourable stories
By Mark Mazzetti and Borzou Daragahi
Published: November 30 2005 08:16
Last updated: November 30 2005 08:16
As part of an information offensive in Iraq, the U.S. military is
secretly paying Iraqi newspapers to publish stories written by
American troops in an effort to burnish the image of the U.S. mission
in Iraq.
The articles, written by U.S. military “information operations”
troops, are translated into Arabic and placed in Baghdad newspapers
with the help of a defense contractor, according to U.S. military
officials and documents obtained by the Los Angeles Times.
The rest of this article is for FT.com subscribers only
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0511300264nov30,1,6049966.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
U.S. military paying Iraqi editors to publish propaganda
By Mark Mazzetti and Borzou Daragahi, Tribune Newspapers: Los Angeles
Times. Mark Mazzetti reported from Washington and Borzou Daragahi from
Baghdad
Published November 30, 2005
WASHINGTON -- As part of an information offensive inside Iraq, the
U.S. military is secretly paying Iraqi newspaper editors to publish
stories written by U.S. troops in an effort to burnish the image of
the American mission within Iraq.
Working with a private defense contractor, military officials in Iraq
are having articles written by "information operations" troops
translated into Arabic and then placed in newspapers around Baghdad,
according to U.S. military officials and documents obtained by the Los
Angeles Times.
Many of the articles are presented as legitimate news accounts in the
Iraqi press. The newspapers are paid for publishing the stories, which
trumpet the successes of U.S. and Iraqi troops, denounce insurgents
and tout U.S.-led efforts to rebuild the country.
The operation is designed to mask any connection with the U.S.
military. The military has a contract with a small Washington-based
firm called Lincoln Group, which is involved in the translation and
placement of the stories. The Iraqi staff of the defense contractor or
its subcontractors sometimes pose as freelance reporters or
advertising executives.
The campaign has sparked a backlash among senior military officers
both in Iraq and at the Pentagon who argue that attempts to subvert
the news media could destroy the U.S. military's credibility.
"Here we are trying to create the principles of democracy in Iraq.
Every speech we give in that country is about democracy. And we're
breaking all the first principles of democracy when we're doing it,"
said a senior Pentagon official who opposes elements of the campaign.
According to military officials familiar with the effort, much of it
is directed by the "Information Operations Task Force" in Baghdad,
part of the multinational corps headquarters commanded by Army Lt.
Gen. John R. Vines. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity
because they are critical of the effort and are not authorized to
speak publicly about it.
A spokesman for Vines declined to comment for this article. A Lincoln
Group spokesman also declined to comment, saying that it is company
policy not to comment on details of its military contracts.
Copyright © 2005, Chicago Tribune
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Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.

User: "Bill K."

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 03:50:23 PM
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:19:27 -0800, Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html


It was widely reported (everywhere but in the leftmedia) that when a dead
soldier's family sent his last letter to the New York Times, the left-wing
Times edited out his patriotic statements and focused only on his death.
Now the family COULD have paid the Times to print the entire letter, and
the Times would undoubtedly complied. They would have indicated that it
was paid for, but they would have printed it, no doubt.
So what, EXACTLY, is the difference here? The only thing I can see is that
the Iraqi newspapers *apparently* didn't notify readers that the articles
were paid for. Whose fault is that? The people submitting the articles? If
it was the Times doing it, would you blame the author?

-----

Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL a.a. pastor #-273.15,
the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin EAC Econometric Forecast
and Sorcery Division Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
oleka2000@yahoo.com aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)

The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening The Bush
'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2109 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and
mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

-----


"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure of Afton Oaks
Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why a Neocon chickenhawk like him
pussied out of the Vietnam War.

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 03 Dec 2005 12:51:48 AM
Bill K. <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html


It was widely reported (everywhere but in the leftmedia) that when a dead
soldier's family sent his last letter to the New York Times, the left-wing
Times edited out his patriotic statements and focused only on his death.

Name? Date?
Given that long, long list of outright lies I've seen from you neocons
I wouldn't believe anything you have to say without evidence.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.


User: "Bill K."

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 01:11:11 PM
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:19:27 -0800, Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html

How is this fundamentally different from Voice of America, e.g.?
Disseminating information ALWAYS costs money. Someone has to pay for it.
If the information so disseminated was TRUE, where's the beef?
By the way, when a soldier's words were sent to the New York Times, which
doesn't charge, the Times snipped out what didn't suit its leftist,
Bush-hating agenda. We haven't heard much from the leftmedia condemning
that.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/4/161021.shtml
If the New York Times, etc., started charging for printing verbatim DNC
"talking points", the DNC would soon be bankrupt.

-----

Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL a.a. pastor #-273.15,
the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin EAC Econometric Forecast
and Sorcery Division Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
oleka2000@yahoo.com aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)

The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening The Bush
'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2109 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and
mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

-----


"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure of Afton Oaks
Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why a Neocon chickenhawk like him
pussied out of the Vietnam War.

.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 02 Dec 2005 01:18:40 PM
"Bill K." <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> wrote in
news:pan.2005.12.02.19.11.10.101146@XXXoptonline.net:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:19:27 -0800, Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html


How is this fundamentally different from Voice of America, e.g.?
Disseminating information ALWAYS costs money. Someone has to pay for
it. If the information so disseminated was TRUE, where's the beef?

By the way, when a soldier's words were sent to the New York Times,
which doesn't charge, the Times snipped out what didn't suit its
leftist, Bush-hating agenda. We haven't heard much from the leftmedia
condemning that.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/4/161021.shtml

If the New York Times, etc., started charging for printing verbatim
DNC "talking points", the DNC would soon be bankrupt.

No end to you bootlicking bush lapdogs trying to cover for more screw-ups
from the current neocon wingnut administration, huh Pill K?



-----

Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL a.a. pastor #-273.15,
the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin EAC Econometric Forecast
and Sorcery Division Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
oleka2000@yahoo.com aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)

The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening The
Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton
and counting The Bush Iraq lie: -2109 GIs, one friend's
co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

-----


"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure of Afton
Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why a Neocon chickenhawk
like him pussied out of the Vietnam War.


.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 03 Dec 2005 12:50:25 AM
Bill K. <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> wrote:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:19:27 -0800, Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html


How is this fundamentally different from Voice of America, e.g.?

The funbdamental difference is that Voice of America 1) tries to be
unbiased, and 2) doesn't lie about who is doing the reporting.

Disseminating information ALWAYS costs money. Someone has to pay for it.

Groceries cost me money. Somone has to pay so it should be you that pays.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Bill K."

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 03 Dec 2005 07:38:53 AM
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:50:25 -0800, Ray Fischer wrote:

Bill K. <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> wrote:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:19:27 -0800, Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html


How is this fundamentally different from Voice of America, e.g.?


The funbdamental difference is that Voice of America 1) tries to be
unbiased, and 2) doesn't lie about who is doing the reporting.

OK, then, in the case(s) in question, who was lying about who was doing
the reporting? Where's the evidence that anyone connected to the military
lied to anyone?


Disseminating information ALWAYS costs money. Someone has to pay for it.


Groceries cost me money. Somone has to pay so it should be you that pays.

.
User: "Jim07D5"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 03 Dec 2005 01:55:11 PM
"Bill K." <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> said:

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:50:25 -0800, Ray Fischer wrote:

Bill K. <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> wrote:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:19:27 -0800, Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html


How is this fundamentally different from Voice of America, e.g.?


The funbdamental difference is that Voice of America 1) tries to be
unbiased, and 2) doesn't lie about who is doing the reporting.


OK, then, in the case(s) in question, who was lying about who was doing
the reporting? Where's the evidence that anyone connected to the military
lied to anyone?

Withholding the source of the story from the public, when knowing the
source might affect the public's impression of the credibility of the
story, is a violation of journalistic ethics, even if the story is
accurate. At least, my daughter's BA and MA degrees in communications
and public relations and her 4 years as press deputy for a government
official, led her to this conclusion.
--- Jim07D5
.
User: "Bill K."

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 04 Dec 2005 08:10:44 AM
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 19:55:11 +0000, Jim07D5 wrote:

"Bill K." <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> said:

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:50:25 -0800, Ray Fischer wrote:

Bill K. <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> wrote:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:19:27 -0800, Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html


How is this fundamentally different from Voice of America, e.g.?


The funbdamental difference is that Voice of America 1) tries to be
unbiased, and 2) doesn't lie about who is doing the reporting.


OK, then, in the case(s) in question, who was lying about who was doing
the reporting? Where's the evidence that anyone connected to the military
lied to anyone?


Withholding the source of the story from the public, when knowing the
source might affect the public's impression of the credibility of the
story, is a violation of journalistic ethics, even if the story is
accurate. At least, my daughter's BA and MA degrees in communications
and public relations and her 4 years as press deputy for a government
official, led her to this conclusion.
--- Jim07D5

True, but when someone pays a newspaper to publish an article (which
happens all the time in the good ol' U. S. of A.), whose responsibility is
it to inform readers that the story was paid for? Hint: it isn't the
submitter.
On the other hand, if the submitter was the military, and they threatened
to blow up the newspaper if they didn't print the articles, that could be
seen as an ethical lapse on the military's part. HOWEVER, in a time of
war, normal rules don't necessarily apply.
.


User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 03 Dec 2005 11:44:24 AM
Bill K. <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

Bill K. <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c)

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html


How is this fundamentally different from Voice of America, e.g.?


The funbdamental difference is that Voice of America 1) tries to be
unbiased, and 2) doesn't lie about who is doing the reporting.


OK, then, in the case(s) in question, who was lying about who was doing
the reporting?

The US government.

Where's the evidence that anyone connected to the military
lied to anyone?

It's been all over the news. Haven't you been paying attention?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Bill K."

Title: Re: Bush Pays Iraqi Newspapers to Print Propaganda Stories (GOP, The Party of Treason) 03 Dec 2005 01:24:03 PM
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 09:44:24 -0800, Ray Fischer wrote:

Bill K. <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

Bill K. <bilkay@XXXoptonline.net> wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c)

I get it. Saddam propaganda bad, Bush propaganda good.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3ca72216-6179-11da-8470-0000779e2340.html


How is this fundamentally different from Voice of America, e.g.?


The funbdamental difference is that Voice of America 1) tries to be
unbiased, and 2) doesn't lie about who is doing the reporting.


OK, then, in the case(s) in question, who was lying about who was doing
the reporting?


The US government.

Where's the evidence that anyone connected to the military
lied to anyone?


It's been all over the news. Haven't you been paying attention?

Hard as I've looked, I can't find anything about the U.S. military lying.
But then, judging from your rantings here, anything you don't like to hear
is "lying".
.






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