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"Amanda Williams" |
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06 Nov 2005 08:40:44 AM |
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Bye.. Bye... Karl lol..... |
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to smaller
goals
By MIKE ALLEN
Posted Sunday, Nov. 06, 2005
He's weary. his wife and only child, who is approaching college, miss
him. He has monstrous legal bills. His unique bond with the President is
under stress. His most important work is done.
Karl Rove's colleagues don't know exactly when it will happen, but they
are already laying out the reasons they will give for the departure of
the man President George W. Bush dubbed the architect. A Roveless Bush
seemed unthinkable just a few months ago. But that has changed as the
President's senior adviser and deputy chief of staff remains embroiled in
the CIA leak scandal.
Despite Rove's flashes of ebullience in recent days and the insistence of
friends that he is out of legal jeopardy, several of the most important
lawyers who deal with special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald said they saw
more clues last week that Fitzgerald is continuing to look into the
possibility of charging Rove with lying to investigators or the grand
jury or both. If that happens, Rove almost certainly would resign
immediately, as did I. Lewis Libby, Vice President ***** Cheney's chief of
staff, when Libby was indicted two weeks ago. Otherwise, Rove is likely
to wait for a chance to minimize the perception that he is being hounded
out or leaving under a cloud. And he's got one constituency rooting for
him, the conservatives who rely on him to be their voice. If he leaves,
he will not be alone. Several well-wired Administration officials predict
that within a year, the President will have a new chief of staff and
press secretary, probably a new Treasury Secretary and maybe a new
Defense Secretary.
The expected departures are among a host of new signs suggesting that
Bush's sixth year in office—the last one before midterm elections and a
turn in attention toward the 2008 race to succeed him—will be very
different from his first five. The sunny optimist who loved to think big
is now facing polls in which for the first time a majority of Americans
say they do not trust him. "It's like it's twilight in America," says one
frustrated conservative.
At the White House, aides are meeting every day to work out a new agenda.
A possible centerpiece is a road show next year to promote a plan for
simplifying the million-plus words of the tax code, one of Bush's most
reliable applause winners on the stump in 2004. Some aides have visions
of the local-news-friendly "tax families" who appeared with Bush back in
2001, as he promised that if you pay taxes, his plan would give you
relief. But in one indication of the kind of autumn it's been, the tax-
reform commission he appointed to lay the groundwork for new tax
legislation reported back last week with an unsalable hash that one
senior Administration official called "a dog." So White House and
Treasury officials will have to rewrite it, stripping out, among other
things, a proposal to scale back the politically sacrosanct home-mortgage
tax break, before Bush spells out particulars in his State of the Union
address in January. With foreign travel and the holidays eating up the
end of this year, his advisers concede that Bush has little chance of
getting back his mojo before then.
Bush plans to make post-Thanksgiving trips to the Southwest to talk up
border security. His aides hope to set the stage for legislation that
would both crack down on illegal entry, which appeals to conservatives,
and make it easier for undocumented people to become guest workers, which
tends to appeal to Hispanic voters. G.O.P. House members who fear that
Bush's guest-worker plan could tear the party apart say Administration
officials have recently assured them that the White House would support a
separate border-security bill first rather than insist on a linked
package. Doing so could make it harder for Bush to later get the guest-
worker program, which he once thought would give substance to his
rhetoric of compassion. That is one of the many ways that Bush, who has
always talked about the presidency as a vehicle for doing great things,
may have to make concessions to what he once derisively called small
ball.
"A President who loves to hit home runs and wants to be remembered for
swinging for the fences is being forced to take base hits," says a former
White House official. Since 1999 Bush and Rove have imagined engineering
a decades-long G.O.P. majority in America. But Republicans fret these
days about losing the House or Senate in next year's midterm elections.
So if Rove does head out, he may leave behind a wounded President who
faces the prospect of having to abandon some of the pair's Texas-size
dreams.
Bye Bye Karl... don't let the door hit your fat ***** on the way out :o)
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AW
<small but dangerous>
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| User: "Racist Al Franken I hate Black people @ Err America" |
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06 Nov 2005 09:06:44 AM |
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"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
news:436e15eb$0$13598$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to smaller
goals
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Yeah, like shoving Conservative USSC Judges down radlibs throats.
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| User: "Amanda Williams" |
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| Title: Re: Bye.. Bye... Karl lol..... |
06 Nov 2005 11:11:47 AM |
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"Racist Al Franken" <I hate Black people @ Err America> posted in
news:436e1caa$1_4@alt.athenanews.com:
"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
news:436e15eb$0$13598$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to
smaller goals
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Yeah, like shoving Conservative USSC Judges down radlibs throats.
It really pisses you rightard loons off, that after close to 20 years of
the turnip, bush 1 and the shrub appointing "conservative" judges that
nothing has really changed lol...
Have you ever wondered why? NO... silly question I know you rightard
loons are incapable of any sort of rational thought and if you ever so
much as questioned ANYTHING your whole sorry imaginary world would come
tumbling down.
You see once a Judge is on the bench it takes impeachment to remove him
so he doesn't have to kiss ***** anymore to get appointed so he can
become.. well .. a Judge and wants, more than anything else in the world,
the praise of his fellow Judges.
Granted the odd loon has made it to the bench but they are very quickly
marginalized and become objects of ridicule.
Sad (for you) but true.
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AW
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| User: "c-bee1" |
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| Title: Re: Bye.. Bye... Karl lol..... |
06 Nov 2005 10:00:34 AM |
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"Racist Al Franken" <I hate Black people @ Err America> wrote in message
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"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
news:436e15eb$0$13598$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to
smaller
goals
===================
Yeah, like shoving Conservative USSC Judges down radlibs throats.
"Radlibs" = kook alert
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| User: "Racist Al Franken I hate Black people @ Err America" |
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| Title: Re: Bye.. Bye... Karl lol..... |
06 Nov 2005 10:20:18 AM |
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"c-bee1" <c-bee1@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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"Racist Al Franken" <I hate Black people @ Err America> wrote in message
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"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
news:436e15eb$0$13598$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to
smaller
goals
===================
Yeah, like shoving Conservative USSC Judges down radlibs throats.
"Radlibs" = kook alert
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c-bee1 = preschooler alert
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| User: "c-bee1" |
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| Title: Re: Bye.. Bye... Karl lol..... |
06 Nov 2005 10:37:40 AM |
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"Racist Al Franken" <I hate Black people @ Err America> wrote in message
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"c-bee1" <c-bee1@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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"Racist Al Franken" <I hate Black people @ Err America> wrote in message
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"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
news:436e15eb$0$13598$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to
smaller
goals
===================
Yeah, like shoving Conservative USSC Judges down radlibs throats.
"Radlibs" = kook alert
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c-bee1 = preschooler alert
rofl Good luck with that!
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| User: "Attn. Walmart Shoppers" |
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| Title: Re: Bye.. Bye... Karl lol..... |
06 Nov 2005 11:36:28 AM |
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"c-bee1" <c-bee1@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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"Racist Al Franken" <I hate Black people @ Err America> wrote in message
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"Racist Al Franken" <I hate Black people @ Err America> wrote in
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"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
news:436e15eb$0$13598$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to
smaller
goals
===================
Yeah, like shoving Conservative USSC Judges down radlibs throats.
"Radlibs" = kook alert
======================
c-bee1 = preschooler alert
rofl Good luck with that!
Bush is destroying America and that's the best they can do. Pathetic and
hysterical, both.
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| User: "Rich Travsky " |
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09 Nov 2005 12:02:30 AM |
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Racist Al Franken wrote:
"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
news:436e15eb$0$13598$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to smaller
goals
===================
Yeah, like shoving Conservative USSC Judges down radlibs throats.
Is that why Miers bit the dust? Why the republicons pushed hearings
off to January?
Some pushing.
RT
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| User: "David Moffitt" |
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09 Nov 2005 06:57:07 AM |
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"Rich Travsky" <" traRvEsky"@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
news:437190F6.1FDA8F23@hotmMOVEail.com...
Racist Al Franken wrote:
"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
news:436e15eb$0$13598$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to
smaller
goals
===================
Yeah, like shoving Conservative USSC Judges down radlibs throats.
Is that why Miers bit the dust?
%%%% Miers was forced out by Republicans that were not satisfied with her.
Why the republicons pushed hearings
off to January?
%%%% It had nothing to do with politics. The hearing are pushed back to
January so they can go home for Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Some pushing.
Can't you feel them circling, honey? Can't you feel 'em schooling around?
You've got fins to the left, fins to the right, and you're the only bait in
town. -- Fins, Jimmy Buffett
RT
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| User: "Rich Travsky " |
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12 Nov 2005 11:20:07 PM |
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David Moffitt wrote:
"Rich Travsky" <" traRvEsky"@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
news:437190F6.1FDA8F23@hotmMOVEail.com...
Racist Al Franken wrote:
"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
news:436e15eb$0$13598$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to
smaller
goals
===================
Yeah, like shoving Conservative USSC Judges down radlibs throats.
Is that why Miers bit the dust?
%%%% Miers was forced out by Republicans that were not satisfied with her.
Ah, so there was no shoving then. Thanks!
Why the republicons pushed hearings
off to January?
%%%% It had nothing to do with politics. The hearing are pushed back to
January so they can go home for Thanksgiving and Christmas.
No?
http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak06x.html
The January scheduling of Judge Samuel Alito's confirmation hearings for
the Supreme Court, instead of December as desired by President Bush, was
caused in part by political needs of Republican senators facing opposition
for re-election.
Senators Jon Kyl of Arizona and Mike DeWine of Ohio are supporters of
Alito. But each wanted to get home in December to prepare for strong
Democratic challenges.
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Some pushing.
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06 Nov 2005 09:46:19 AM |
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"Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
news:436e15eb$0$13598$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to smaller
goals
By MIKE ALLEN
Rove sure sucked the elephant when he sent Bush to Argentina this weekend.
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| User: "Admiral Brian R. Perps" |
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06 Nov 2005 09:29:49 AM |
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Amanda Williams wrote:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to smaller
goals
By MIKE ALLEN
Posted Sunday, Nov. 06, 2005
He's weary. his wife and only child, who is approaching college, miss
him.
Nice job, Time. Two errors in two sentences. It is no wonder that Time
Magazine keeps losing elections.
--
Admiral Brian R. Perps
US Navy, retired
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| User: "c-bee1" |
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06 Nov 2005 10:01:39 AM |
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"Admiral Brian R. Perps" <Perps@navy.mil> wrote in message
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Amanda Williams wrote:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html
A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to
smaller
goals
By MIKE ALLEN
Posted Sunday, Nov. 06, 2005
He's weary. his wife and only child, who is approaching college, miss
him.
Nice job, Time. Two errors in two sentences. It is no wonder that Time
Magazine keeps losing elections.
rofl That's all you've got?
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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06 Nov 2005 04:48:48 PM |
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Admiral Brian R. Perps wrote:
Nice job, Time. Two errors in two sentences.
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:13:07 -0600, "Colonel Harry Riley USA ret" wrote:
Editor,
The handwriting is on the wall at the Pentagon, in Congress, and in the
White House...the message is reduce military benefits in any way
possible, betray military retirees earned medical care, survivor
benefits and disability program. (camouflage as a threat to National
Security what in reality is government theft of benefits, ) Secretary
Rumsfeld has again cracked the whip on his "benefit cutting team"
Assistant Secretary Dr. Winkenwerder and David Chu, as they are briefing
every member of Congress they can get access too...this Association,
that committee, lamenting of the "runaway military health care costs",
making sweeping statements warning the "world class" health benefit is
threatened, in short the "sky is falling". Winkenwerder and Chu
continually harp on the "costs" of military healthcare, how it has
"doubled or tripled", and they cry big alligator tears that military
members are not paying enough for TRICARE, costs of TRICARE Prime hasn't
been increased since 1996, pharmacy costs are out of sight, on
and on...what is always missing is the "costs in sacrifice placed on our
warriors, spouses, and widows" required to protect freedom...there
should be no higher priority in earthly government budgeting than
faithful support of warriors, spouses, and widows. Has there ever been
testimony by DOD explaining the sacrifice involved in military
service; that our professionals earn every support they can be provided;
described the cost of the life blood spilled; the impact on widows left
behind? If there has, I missed it. Interesting isn't it that the very
elements of government that entice men and women to serve in the defense
of America are the first to cry "costs" and betray military, spouses,
and widows when the enticement debt comes due. America is
quick to find funds in the millions for individual families impacted by
9-11; has appropriated hundreds of billions to care for hurricane
victims; spends billions on every conceivable "pork" project throughout
America...I cite these examples, not to deny support is due our citizens
in time of need, but to compare warriors, those who volunteer, who
purposefully give their very lives to defend our nation,
the impact on their families and point out these men and women are
denied justice and must continually fight for the support they
deserve...and are accused of "threatening national security" for holding
national leaders accountable for commitments made to troops, spouses,
and widows. Rest assured, government today is not what it was fifty
years ago when warriors had "champions" in Congress who
understood...most in Congress were veterans, there are few today,
certainly no leaders with a understanding or burning desire to take care
of the troops...use and abuse appears the theme...troops are on their
own...incumbents should get a strong signal in 2006 at the ballot box.
Warriors can continue to remain silent and be stripped of benefits, see
earned and paid for medical care, survivor benefits, disability
compensation, widow compensation and maybe even retired compensation
capped or reduced...or take a stand...when citizens remain silent
government gets a signal..."they don't care" so we (government) can do
as we wish. Once the horse is out, closing the barn door won't help...we
will live with the impact.
Harry Riley, COL, USA, Ret
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