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Science > Abortion |
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"papa jack" |
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13 Sep 2004 01:04:30 PM |
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CBS in a Dither Over Documents |
On September 13, 2004, Talon News posted an article by Jeff
Gannon titled: "CBS Producer Who Obtained Questionable Guard
Documents Identified."
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/september/0913_mapes_documentsp.shtml
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Excerpts:
"Mary Mapes, a Dallas-based producer for CBS, has been identified
by Talon News sources as the person who obtained the documents
that suggest President George W. Bush did not fulfill his National
Guard obligations 30 years ago. The documents, which have been
judged to be forgeries by many news services and forensics experts,
are at the center of a scandal that threatens the credibility of
the network.
"Late Friday, CBS spokesperson Kelli Edwards confirmed to Talon
News that it was Mapes who obtained the documents, but refused
to comment on the questions surrounding their authenticity.
Mapes did not respond to Talon News requests for comment.
[...]
"But glaring omissions marred Rather piece. On Friday, Killian's
son Gary told nationally syndicated talk-show host Sean Hannity
that Mary Mapes had contacted him before CBS ran the story. He
said he warned her that the documents might be forgeries.
[...]
"...Marjorie Connell, told ABC Radio News, ‘The wording in these
documents is very suspect to me. ... I just can't believe these
are his words.' Connell said that her late husband would be
‘turning over in his grave to know that a document such as this
would be used against a fellow Guardsman,' and she is ‘sick' and
‘angry' that his name is ‘being battled back and forth on tele-
vision.' Connell said her late husband was a fan of the young
Bush. She stated, ‘I know for a fact that this young man ...
was an excellent aviator, an excellent person to be in the Guard,
and he was very happy to have him become a member of the 111th.'
"Rufus Martin, the personnel chief in Killian's unit at the time
told CNN, ‘They looked to me like forgeries. ... I don't think
Killian would do that, and I knew him for 17 years.'
"Retired Maj. General Hodges, Killian's supervisor, told ABC News
he feels CBS misled him about the documents they uncovered. He
said that CBS told him the documents were ‘handwritten' and after
CBS read him excerpts he said, ‘Well if he wrote them that's what
he felt.' Hodges believes the documents are frauds.
[...]
"Bill Flynn, one of country's top authorities on document authenti-
cation, told ABC, ‘These documents do not appear to have been
the result of technology that was available in 1972 and 1973.'
He continued, ‘The cumulative evidence that's available ... indi-
cates these documents were produced on a computer, not a typewriter.'
[...]
"After reviewing copies of the documents at her office in Paradise
Valley, Arizona, Line said, ‘I'm virtually certain these were
computer generated.'
"One expert counts at least 50 points that suggest the documents
are forgeries.
[...]
"Newsweek is suggesting that Mapes received the documents from
Bill Burkett, who it describes as a disgruntled former Guard
officer. The magazine reports that Mapes flew to Texas to
interview him."
[...]
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Papa Jack comments:
Let's see, according to the best "rumors," Kerry's staff gave
these suspect documents to the DNC, Or was it the other way
around? Anyway, Kerry/DNC gave them to CBS who ran with the
ball. Or, did they fumble the ball?
Who will Kerry decide to blame?
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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| Title: Re: CBS in a Dither Over Documents |
14 Sep 2004 12:15:02 PM |
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Is that so? Looks to me like they are standing by their story:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/06/politics/main641481.shtml
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: GOP claims CBS in a Dither Over Documents |
14 Sep 2004 12:39:56 AM |
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papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/september/0913_mapes_documentsp.shtml
LOL! Another one of your "credible" sources, Jackass?
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Excerpts:
"Mary Mapes, a Dallas-based producer for CBS, has been identified
by Talon News sources
"We concentrate on news that conservatives care about without putting
a liberal spin on it."
as the person who obtained the documents
that suggest President George W. Bush did not fulfill his National
Guard obligations 30 years ago. The documents, which have been
judged to be forgeries by many news services and forensics experts,
are at the center of a scandal that threatens the credibility of
the network.
Lessee, CBS vs. an admittedly biased "news" organizations.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Let's see, according to the best "rumors," Kerry's staff gave
these suspect documents to the DNC,
According to rumors I heard, that smear campaign is being orchestrated
by Rover with Bush's knowledge. Bush knows that the documents are
true.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Dan Wood" |
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| Title: Re: GOP claims CBS in a Dither Over Documents |
15 Sep 2004 04:49:13 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:ci607b$gm$1@bolt.sonic.net...
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/september/0913_mapes_documentsp.shtml
LOL! Another one of your "credible" sources, Jackass?
___________________________________________________________________________
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Excerpts:
"Mary Mapes, a Dallas-based producer for CBS, has been identified
by Talon News sources
"We concentrate on news that conservatives care about without putting
a liberal spin on it."
as the person who obtained the documents
that suggest President George W. Bush did not fulfill his National
Guard obligations 30 years ago. The documents, which have been
judged to be forgeries by many news services and forensics experts,
are at the center of a scandal that threatens the credibility of
the network.
Lessee, CBS vs. an admittedly biased "news" organizations.
___________________________________________________________________________
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Let's see, according to the best "rumors," Kerry's staff gave
these suspect documents to the DNC,
According to rumors I heard, that smear campaign is being orchestrated
by Rover with Bush's knowledge. Bush knows that the documents are
true.
Has Bush admitted these documents are true? If so please give reference.
I have $100.00 bet on the validity of these documents. At this juncture
it appears I've lost the bet and I'm out the money. But if Bush has admitted
that the documents are true that's all I need!
Dr. Wood
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: GOP claims CBS in a Dither Over Documents |
14 Sep 2004 08:08:24 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:ci607b$gm$1@bolt.sonic.net...
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/september/0913_mapes_documentsp.shtml
LOL! Another one of your "credible" sources, Jackass?
_____________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"Mary Mapes, a Dallas-based producer for CBS, has been identified
by Talon News sources
"We concentrate on news that conservatives care about without putting
a liberal spin on it."
as the person who obtained the documents
that suggest President George W. Bush did not fulfill his National
Guard obligations 30 years ago. The documents, which have been
judged to be forgeries by many news services and forensics experts,
are at the center of a scandal that threatens the credibility of
the network.
Lessee, CBS vs. an admittedly biased "news" organizations.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Let's see, according to the best "rumors," Kerry's staff gave
these suspect documents to the DNC,
According to rumors I heard, that smear campaign is being orchestrated
by Rover with Bush's knowledge. Bush knows that the documents are
true.
Then why didn't anyone say anything in 2000?
That should have been the very first question people should have asked.
The memo's apparentely are forged and Kerry's campaign is behind it.
Now that the source for CBS is retracting any statements, Kerry will most
likely suffer a blow for this one.
Good job liberals!!!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: GOP claims CBS in a Dither Over Documents |
15 Sep 2004 12:52:00 AM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:ci607b$gm$1@bolt.sonic.net...
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/september/0913_mapes_documentsp.shtml
LOL! Another one of your "credible" sources, Jackass?
_____________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"Mary Mapes, a Dallas-based producer for CBS, has been identified
by Talon News sources
"We concentrate on news that conservatives care about without putting
a liberal spin on it."
as the person who obtained the documents
that suggest President George W. Bush did not fulfill his National
Guard obligations 30 years ago. The documents, which have been
judged to be forgeries by many news services and forensics experts,
are at the center of a scandal that threatens the credibility of
the network.
Lessee, CBS vs. an admittedly biased "news" organizations.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Let's see, according to the best "rumors," Kerry's staff gave
these suspect documents to the DNC,
According to rumors I heard, that smear campaign is being orchestrated
by Rover with Bush's knowledge. Bush knows that the documents are
true.
Then why didn't anyone say anything in 2000?
Are you on crack, *****?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: GOP claims CBS in a Dither Over Documents |
15 Sep 2004 07:43:25 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:ci8l9v$dsn$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:ci607b$gm$1@bolt.sonic.net...
papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/september/0913_mapes_documentsp.shtml
LOL! Another one of your "credible" sources, Jackass?
_____________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
"Mary Mapes, a Dallas-based producer for CBS, has been identified
by Talon News sources
"We concentrate on news that conservatives care about without putting
a liberal spin on it."
as the person who obtained the documents
that suggest President George W. Bush did not fulfill his National
Guard obligations 30 years ago. The documents, which have been
judged to be forgeries by many news services and forensics experts,
are at the center of a scandal that threatens the credibility of
the network.
Lessee, CBS vs. an admittedly biased "news" organizations.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Let's see, according to the best "rumors," Kerry's staff gave
these suspect documents to the DNC,
According to rumors I heard, that smear campaign is being orchestrated
by Rover with Bush's knowledge. Bush knows that the documents are
true.
Then why didn't anyone say anything in 2000?
Are you on crack, *****?
That's your answer as to why they didn't say anything in 2000????
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