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"james g. keegan jr." |
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13 Aug 2004 04:20:45 PM |
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CHENEY CALLS THE KETTLE BLACK |
CHENEY CALLS THE KETTLE BLACK
Yesterday, Vice President ***** Cheney lashed out at Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)
for suggesting that America needs to fight "a more effective, more
thoughtful, more strategic, more proactive, more sensitive war on terror."[1]
Cheney said, "America has been in too many wars for any of our wishes, but
not a one of them was won by being sensitive."[2] Cheney neglected to mention
that President Bush and other top administration officials - including Cheney
himself - have publicly called for "sensitive" use of American military
power. Here is a selection:
On 3/4/01, at the christening of the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan, President Bush
said, "because America is powerful, we must be sensitive about expressing our
power and influence."[3]
On 1/7/03, Gen. Richard Myers, the chairman of the president's Joint Chiefs
of Staff, said that the administration asks "our troops to go out there and
be, on the one hand, very sensitive to cultural issues, on the other hand, be
ready to respond in self-defense to a very ticklish situation."[4]
On 4/13/03, Cheney said, "We recognize that the presence of U.S. forces can
in some cases present a burden on the local community. We're not insensitive
to that. We work almost on a continual basis with the local officials to
remove points of friction and reduce the extent to which problems arise in
terms of those relationships."[5]
Sources:
1. "Cheney blasts Kerry for 'sensitive' remark," Chicago Sun-Times, 08/13/04,
http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2103488&l=50430.
2. Ibid.
3. "Remarks by the President at Christening Ceremony for the USS Ronald
Reagan," The White House, 03/04/01, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=
2103488&l=50431.
4. "DoD News Briefing - Secretary Rumsfeld and Gen. Myers," U.S. Department
of Defense, 01/07/03, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2103488&l=50432.
5. "Remarks by the Vice President at the Washington Post-Yomiuri Shimbun
Symposium," The White House, 04/13/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=
2103488&l=50433.
Visit www.Misleader.org for more about Bush Administration distortion.
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| User: "Herb Martin" |
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16 Aug 2004 07:14:35 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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CHENEY CALLS THE KETTLE BLACK
Yesterday, Vice President ***** Cheney lashed out at Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)
for suggesting that America needs to fight "a more effective, more
thoughtful, more strategic, more proactive, more sensitive war on
terror."[1]
Cheney said, "America has been in too many wars for any of our wishes, but
not a one of them was won by being sensitive."[2] Cheney neglected to
mention
that President Bush and other top administration officials - including
Cheney
himself - have publicly called for "sensitive" use of American military
power. Here is a selection:
On 3/4/01,
Look at the date -- pre-911 and we were NOT yet at war.
Kerry said "sensitive WAR" - the administration has said
that we have to be sensitive to our allies and to the cultures
where we place our troops.
World of different and DISHONEST (or stupid) of you to
confuse these two topics.
Kerry got caught on one of those kitchen sink political quotes
if you want to know the truth -- he threw every adjective (with
no substance) in front of the word 'war' that he could remember.
'more propactive, progressive, liberal, sensitive, efficient, purple,
green, peaceful war'.
It was a nothing line designed to cover all bases and he got caught
with his foot on the wrong base and had it shoved down his throat.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: CHENEY CALLS THE KETTLE BLACK |
16 Aug 2004 07:30:50 PM |
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in news:L5cUc.14752$MD.5521
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9544B07145304keegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4...
CHENEY CALLS THE KETTLE BLACK
Yesterday, Vice President ***** Cheney lashed out at Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)
for suggesting that America needs to fight "a more effective, more
thoughtful, more strategic, more proactive, more sensitive war on
terror."[1]
Cheney said, "America has been in too many wars for any of our wishes, but
not a one of them was won by being sensitive."[2] Cheney neglected to
mention
that President Bush and other top administration officials - including
Cheney
himself - have publicly called for "sensitive" use of American military
power. Here is a selection:
On 3/4/01,
Look at the date -- pre-911 and we were NOT yet at war.
On 1/7/03, Gen. Richard Myers, the chairman of the president's Joint Chiefs
of Staff, said that the administration asks "our troops to go out there and
be, on the one hand, very sensitive to cultural issues, on the other hand, be
ready to respond in self-defense to a very ticklish situation."[4]
On 4/13/03, Cheney said, "We recognize that the presence of U.S. forces can
in some cases present a burden on the local community. We're not insensitive
to that. We work almost on a continual basis with the local officials to
remove points of friction and reduce the extent to which problems arise in
terms of those relationships."[5]
look at the dates indeed! no wonder you deleted the references.
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| User: "Herb Martin" |
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16 Aug 2004 08:46:02 PM |
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On 1/7/03, Gen. Richard Myers, the chairman of the president's Joint
Chiefs
of Staff, said that the administration asks "our troops to go out there
and
be, on the one hand, very sensitive to cultural issues, on the other hand,
be
ready to respond in self-defense to a very ticklish situation."[4]
On 4/13/03, Cheney said, "We recognize that the presence of U.S. forces
can
in some cases present a burden on the local community. We're not
insensitive
to that. We work almost on a continual basis with the local officials to
remove points of friction and reduce the extent to which problems arise in
terms of those relationships."[5]
Yes, and it is dishonest of you to claim that either one of these
people said "sensitive war".
BTW, Gen Meyers has a non-political job and may vote Democrat
for all we know publicly.
They were both talking about our effect on the CIVILIAN populace
or our ALLIES not about sensitive war.
Don't dig your guy in deeper by wiggling.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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16 Aug 2004 09:10:01 PM |
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in news:urdUc.14766$MD.10611
@fe1.texas.rr.com:
Don't dig your guy in deeper by wiggling.
cheney is not my guy. only crazies endorse his dishonesty. you're one of
those, aren't you?
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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17 Aug 2004 01:23:49 PM |
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote...
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote...
CHENEY CALLS THE KETTLE BLACK
Yesterday, Vice President ***** Cheney lashed out at Sen. John Kerry
(D-MA) for suggesting that America needs to fight "a more effective,
more thoughtful, more strategic, more proactive, more sensitive war
on terror."[1]
Cheney said, "America has been in too many wars for any of our wishes,
but not a one of them was won by being sensitive."[2] Cheney neglected
to mention that President Bush and other top administration officials -
including Cheney himself - have publicly called for "sensitive" use of
American military power. Here is a selection:
On 3/4/01,
Look at the date -- pre-911 and we were NOT yet at war.
"9/11 changed everything." Is that pretty much your argument?
Kerry said "sensitive WAR"
Kerry said "a more effective, more thoughtful, more strategic, more
proactive, more sensitive war on terror".
I'm all for "a more effective, more thoughtful, more strategic, more
proactive, more sensitive war on terror" myself, so that the skill and
bravery of our armed forces aren't wasted on badly planned
cluster-fucks like "Operation Iraqi Freedom".
the administration has said that we have to be sensitive to our allies
Have we been sensitive to our allies? I don't think soooo...
and to the cultures where we place our troops.
How do you think we're doing so far? Does "Abu Ghraib" ring any
bells? Compare your answers with the rest of the world's.
World of different and DISHONEST (or stupid) of you to
confuse these two topics.
So you enjoy dressing up as a pot and calling the kettle black as much
as Cheney does.
Kerry got caught on one of those kitchen sink political quotes
if you want to know the truth -- he threw every adjective (with
no substance) in front of the word 'war' that he could remember.
On the contrary, Cheney got caught pulling *one* word, kicking and
screaming, out of context. I can't wait for Edwards and Cheney to
debate. When Edwards is done tearing a few new ones, Cheney will be
farting in four-part harmony.
'more propactive, progressive, liberal, sensitive, efficient, purple,
green, peaceful war'.
Kerry didn't say that. Now look who's being dishonest.
It was a nothing line designed to cover all bases and he got caught
with his foot on the wrong base and had it shoved down his throat.
Wishful thinking on your part.
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| User: "Herb Martin" |
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17 Aug 2004 06:00:48 PM |
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--
Herb Martin
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0408171023.762a1b5a@posting.google.com...
Kerry said "sensitive WAR"
Kerry said "a more effective, more thoughtful, more strategic, more
proactive, more sensitive war on terror".
On the contrary, Cheney got caught pulling *one* word, kicking and
screaming, out of context. I can't wait for Edwards and Cheney to
debate. When Edwards is done tearing a few new ones, Cheney will be
farting in four-part harmony.
'more propactive, progressive, liberal, sensitive, efficient, purple,
green, peaceful war'.
My point exactly -- I you will notice did NOT quote him when
pointing out that he put a bunch of meaningless (in context)
words in front of "war", but he definitely ended with "sensitive
war on terror".
Thank you.
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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18 Aug 2004 08:50:54 AM |
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote...
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
Kerry said "sensitive WAR"
Kerry said "a more effective, more thoughtful, more strategic, more
proactive, more sensitive war on terror".
On the contrary, Cheney got caught pulling *one* word, kicking and
screaming, out of context. I can't wait for Edwards and Cheney to
debate. When Edwards is done tearing a few new ones, Cheney will be
farting in four-part harmony.
'more propactive, progressive, liberal, sensitive, efficient, purple,
green, peaceful war'.
My point exactly -- I you will notice did NOT quote him when
pointing out that he put a bunch of meaningless (in context)
words in front of "war", but he definitely ended with "sensitive
war on terror".
What is meaningless about "more effective"? Especially considering
how *in*effective the Bush Junta has been? (Hint: Why is Osama bin
Laden now "He Who Must Not Be Named"?)
What is meaningless about "more thoughtful"? Especially considering
what an classic cluster-***** Operation Iraqi Freedom turned out to be?
What is meaningless about "more strategic"? Especially considering
that the Bush Junta did not finish the job in Afghanistan and let He
Who Must Not Be Named get away.
What is meaningless about "more proactive"? Especially considering
that the Bush Junta ignored explicit warnings that the United States
was going to be attacked?
And finally, what is wrong with "more sensitive"? You yourself
affirmed the importance of being sensitive to our allies. Fine
sounding words, but the Bush Junta blew off the rest of the world and
essentially went its own, misguided way. It will take *decades* to
undo the damage done by those ***** clowns.
Thank you.
You're *thanking* me for exposing what a tool you are?
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| User: "Herb Martin" |
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18 Aug 2004 10:08:51 PM |
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What is meaningless about "more strategic"? Especially considering
that the Bush Junta did not finish the job in Afghanistan and let He
Who Must Not Be Named get away.
What is meaningless about "more proactive"? Especially considering
that the Bush Junta ignored explicit warnings that the United States
was going to be attacked?
What is MEANINGLESS about such words is that they are
mere nominalizations used as adjectives -- devoid of any
actual content.
More proactive? Is he going to rescue 6 nations in his 4 years
instead of only the 4 that Bush did?
What SPECIFICALLY will he do different?
He want say because 1) he doesn't know and 2) if he actually
SAID SOMETHING we could consider the effects of it.
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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19 Aug 2004 11:21:43 AM |
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote...
More proactive? Is he going to rescue 6 nations in his 4 years
instead of only the 4 that Bush did?
What SPECIFICALLY will he do different?
I'm interested in specifics, too. What 4 nations did Bush "rescue"?
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| User: "Herb Martin" |
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19 Aug 2004 05:12:23 PM |
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"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote...
More proactive? Is he going to rescue 6 nations in his 4 years
instead of only the 4 that Bush did?
What SPECIFICALLY will he do different?
I'm interested in specifics, too. What 4 nations did Bush "rescue"?
You really should follow the news better:
1) Afghanistan
2) Liberia
3) Haiti
4) Iraq
Do try to keep up.
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| User: "Gretchen G. Grinchehoeffer XXIII" |
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20 Aug 2004 03:22:00 PM |
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message news:<bB9Vc.14699$xi6.5847@fe2.texas.rr.com>...
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote...
More proactive? Is he going to rescue 6 nations in his 4 years
instead of only the 4 that Bush did?
What SPECIFICALLY will he do different?
I'm interested in specifics, too. What 4 nations did Bush "rescue"?
You really should follow the news better:
1) Afghanistan
2) Liberia
3) Haiti
4) Iraq
Do try to keep up.
Herb, what you're up against in here is that bad news for the country
is by definition good news for the democrats - and the worse the
better. So, if the news is good, it's bad; if it's not so good, it's
really, really bad; and if it's bad it's an unmitigated disaster.
While none of them would ever dare admit it, in their heart of hearts
if the deaths of, say, 6,000 American soldiers in some military
calamity meant the certain defeat of Bush in November, that would be
an acceptable tradeoff for many of these die-hard socialists. Their
hatred for Bush far eclipses their love for this country. They're all
mentally sick whack jobs, which is to say, liberal democrats.
Gretchen G. Grinchehoeffer XXIII
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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21 Aug 2004 02:47:14 PM |
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(Gretchen G. Grinchehoeffer XXIII)
wrote
"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote...
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote...
More proactive? Is he going to rescue 6 nations in his 4 years
instead of only the 4 that Bush did?
What SPECIFICALLY will he do different?
I'm interested in specifics, too. What 4 nations did Bush "rescue"?
You really should follow the news better:
1) Afghanistan
2) Liberia
3) Haiti
4) Iraq
Do try to keep up.
Herb, what you're up against in here is
your own delusional, misinformed world view, armed only by your
incompetence. You are your own worst enemy, Herb.
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| User: "Herb Martin" |
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21 Aug 2004 01:10:22 PM |
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Herb, what you're up against in here is that bad news for the country
is by definition good news for the democrats - and the worse the
better. So, if the news is good, it's bad; if it's not so good, it's
really, really bad; and if it's bad it's an unmitigated disaster.
While none of them would ever dare admit it, in their heart of hearts
if the deaths of, say, 6,000 American soldiers in some military
calamity meant the certain defeat of Bush in November, that would be
an acceptable tradeoff for many of these die-hard socialists. Their
hatred for Bush far eclipses their love for this country. They're all
mentally sick whack jobs, which is to say, liberal democrats.
Exactly.
The Democrats find themselves (even the ones who aren't nutjobs)
rooted for America's enemies.
Democracts rooting against the economy.
Democracts rooting against for job losses.
With all that rooting, the Democrats (politicans) native language
must be "oink".
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Herb Martin
"Gretchen G. Grinchehoeffer XXIII" <gretchen@linkedto.nulluser.com> wrote in
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message
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"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote...
More proactive? Is he going to rescue 6 nations in his 4 years
instead of only the 4 that Bush did?
What SPECIFICALLY will he do different?
I'm interested in specifics, too. What 4 nations did Bush "rescue"?
You really should follow the news better:
1) Afghanistan
2) Liberia
3) Haiti
4) Iraq
Do try to keep up.
Gretchen G. Grinchehoeffer XXIII
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| User: "BOB" |
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19 Aug 2004 08:10:26 PM |
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in news:bB9Vc.14699$xi6.5847
@fe2.texas.rr.com:
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:6ed74dfa.0408190821.7f75052b@posting.google.com...
"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote...
More proactive? Is he going to rescue 6 nations in his 4 years
instead of only the 4 that Bush did?
What SPECIFICALLY will he do different?
I'm interested in specifics, too. What 4 nations did Bush "rescue"?
You really should follow the news better:
1) Afghanistan
2) Liberia
3) Haiti
4) Iraq
You can't be serious! Do you realize that the present condition of those
four countries is disasterous. I don't think the other neocon wingnut
repugs will be bragging about the currrent state of these countries for
election purposes, do you?
Do try to keep up.
Yes, please do.
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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19 Aug 2004 09:02:27 PM |
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"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote...
"Spartakus" <spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote...
More proactive? Is he going to rescue 6 nations in his 4 years
instead of only the 4 that Bush did?
What SPECIFICALLY will he do different?
I'm interested in specifics, too. What 4 nations did Bush "rescue"?
You really should follow the news better:
1) Afghanistan
This just in: the Taliban has reasserted its authority over large
parts of the country after many American troops were redeployed to
Iraq.
2) Liberia
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
3) Haiti
What I just said.
4) Iraq
Iraq is in ruins and Allawi is Saddam-lite. Does "Abu Ghraib" ring
any bells?
Do try to keep up.
Indeed.
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