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"J Young" |
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25 Dec 2007 11:12:29 PM |
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Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin |
Mazal Tov!
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3485939%2C00.html
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
Rabbinic Council of Chief Rabbinate to establish committee to lobby against
abortions in Israel. Rabbis: Abortions delaying coming of messiah
Neta Sela
Israel's Chief Rabbinate decided over the weekend that it would establish a
special committee that would work to reduce the amount of abortions carried
out in Israel.
Both Sephardi Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar and Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Yona Metzger
supported the Rabbinical Council's decision.
The council made the decision after Dr. Eli Schussheim, director of the
anti-abortion organization Efrat, presented the rabbis with facts and
figures on the amount of abortions carried out in Israel yearly.
According to Dr. Schussheim, 50,000 abortions occur in Israel every year,
only 20,000 of which are legally performed.
The Rabbinic Council, which is made up of the Chief Rabbi of Haifa, Rabbi
Shaar-Yeshuv Cohen, the Chief Rabbi of Rehovot, Rabbi Simcha HaCohen Kook
and Beersheba's Chief Rabbi, Rabbi Yehuda Deri, has decided to have the new
committee begin work this coming Saturday.
"The vast majority of abortions are unnecessary and strictly forbidden
according to halacha because they are carried out even when the pregnancies
do not endanger the mother's health," the rabbis wrote in their decision.
The rabbis believe that these types of abortions are a grave sin which may
even delay the coming of the messiah. They base this assumption on an
expression uttered by the Jewish sages which can be construed as signifying
that the messiah will not arrive until all souls meant to be born to Jewish
mothers are in fact born.
The halachic basis for the rabbis anti-abortion position is articulated in
Genesis 9:6 which reads: "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his
blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man."
The rabbis see fetuses as constituting a "man" based on a Gemara passage
which states that a fetus in its mother's womb should already be considered
a human being.
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J Young
jyoungvisions@aol.com
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin |
26 Dec 2007 07:26:42 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
Geoff: Any Jews that give a ***** what this old fart thinks should *not* have
abortions. Everyone else...keep walking. Nothing to see here.
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| User: "" |
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25 Dec 2007 11:54:24 PM |
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On 26 Dez., 06:12, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
Mazal Tov!
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3485939%2C00.html
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
And we atheists care about what a rabbi says in which way exactly?
Besides, since when do you care about what rabbis have to say?
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin |
25 Dec 2007 11:56:21 PM |
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<parsifal222@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6b3bd6fd-cbbb-444b-b527-2f0dd45c032f@f53g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 26 Dez., 06:12, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
Mazal Tov!
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3485939%2C00.html
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
And we atheists care about what a rabbi says in which way exactly?
Besides, since when do you care about what rabbis have to say?
I'm always interested to know what a man of the cloth has to say. I feel the
same way about atheist scholars. Doesn't mean I always agree with them but
unlike you and many of your ilk, I am open to hearing both sides to an
issue.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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26 Dec 2007 09:09:12 AM |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 00:56:21 -0500, J Young wrote:
<parsifal222@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6b3bd6fd-cbbb-444b-
b527-2f0dd45c032f@f53g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 26 Dez., 06:12, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
Mazal Tov!
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3485939%2C00.html
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
And we atheists care about what a rabbi says in which way exactly?
Besides, since when do you care about what rabbis have to say?
I'm always interested to know what a man of the cloth has to say.
We're not.
I feel
the same way about atheist scholars.
Liar.
Doesn't mean I always agree with
them but unlike you and many of your ilk, I am open to hearing both
sides to an issue.
Liar.
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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Evolution is both fact and theory.
Creationism is neither.
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| User: "elizabeth" |
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26 Dec 2007 12:25:54 PM |
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On Dec 25, 9:54=A0pm, wrote:
On 26 Dez., 06:12, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
Mazal Tov!
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3485939%2C00.html
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
And we atheists care about what a rabbi says in which way exactly?
Besides, since when do you care about what rabbis have to say
Actually, the Torah and Talmud are if anything, proabortion, and very
prochoice, given that there are no bans on abortion in any scripture.
And he's only talking to those of his faith, since it would be wrong
for a rabbi to tell a goy what to do. Certainly the Judaic faith is
not immune to cultish subgroups with false prophets! Remember that
the main reason abortion is restricted is to force the women of a
given nation/culture to outbreed The Others.
That is why abortion was banned in the usa after the civil war. There
are many such incidents in history.
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| User: "Bob Officer" |
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26 Dec 2007 04:50:51 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:54:24 -0800 (PST), in alt.abortion,
parsifal222@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 Dez., 06:12, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
Mazal Tov!
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3485939%2C00.html
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
And we atheists care about what a rabbi says in which way exactly?
Why should any care what a **man** has to say about abortion?
Besides, since when do you care about what rabbis have to say?
He is just one person with only no special place in the world.
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Ak'toh'di
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| User: "BAM" |
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26 Dec 2007 09:26:34 PM |
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"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
news:jjm5n3p9nh36h1mnn35qip1n37f3s9itop@4ax.com...
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:54:24 -0800 (PST), in alt.abortion,
parsifal222@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 Dez., 06:12, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
Mazal Tov!
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3485939%2C00.html
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
And we atheists care about what a rabbi says in which way exactly?
Why should any care what a **man** has to say about abortion?
That's like saying, "Why should a white man care about slavery?"
BAM
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| User: "BOB" |
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26 Dec 2007 09:33:00 PM |
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote in news:nWEcj.32166
$vt2.25572@bignews8.bellsouth.net:
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
news:jjm5n3p9nh36h1mnn35qip1n37f3s9itop@4ax.com...
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:54:24 -0800 (PST), in alt.abortion,
parsifal222@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 Dez., 06:12, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
Mazal Tov!
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3485939%2C00.html
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
And we atheists care about what a rabbi says in which way exactly?
Why should any care what a **man** has to say about abortion?
That's like saying, "Why should a white man care about slavery?"
Because slavery is against the law and abortion isn't BUM.
BAM
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| User: "Syd M." |
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26 Dec 2007 09:09:38 AM |
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On Dec 26, 12:12 am, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
Mazal Tov!
Anta baka!!
PDW, (Your an idiot, in IBen's favorite language, Japanese..)
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin |
26 Dec 2007 03:20:44 AM |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 00:12:29 -0500, "J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com>
wrote:
You just aren't getting it, are you, IBen? This is alt.atheism. We
don't give a ***** about the opinions and pronouncements of religious
fuckwits - no matter what religion they shill for.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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26 Dec 2007 09:08:44 AM |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 00:12:29 -0500, J Young wrote:
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
So he shouldn't have one then.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“The time must come inevitably when mankind shall
surmount the imbecility of religion, as it has surmounted
the imbecility of religion's ally, magic. It is impossible
to imagine this world being really civilized so long as
so much nonsense survives.”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "R. L. Measures" |
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26 Dec 2007 10:03:56 AM |
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In article <sc7a45-mp.ln1@eac.exists.not>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 00:12:29 -0500, J Young wrote:
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
So he shouldn't have one then.
excellent.
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R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin |
26 Dec 2007 02:13:07 AM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> bloodied us
up with this:
Chief Rabbinate: Abortions are grave sin
As has been posted before, "God" gave us Free Will. You cathoholics will
agree with this. If "God" gave us free will, he is pro-choice. Catholics
are going against the will of god, therefore they are sinners and will burn
forever in the very hell they created.
Doesn't it suck to believe in God?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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