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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:

You got permission to reprint all these copyrighted works from
the
publishers?

What are you going to do about it? Call his police department?

I'm not as stupid as you.
Anyone could notify the publisher(s) of the copyrighted work(s).

What is making me laugh is during the whole time I would post an
article, people like humphrey and barnes would scream "copyright"
violations. Isn't it amazing the double standards they hold?

Their motto: Do as I say, not as I do.

Yep. Exactly one reason why they will not be regarded as great in
Heaven.

In regards to Cindy Sheehan though, I think Bush needs to pay
attention
to what these mothers are saying. She has a right to know why her
son
died and what for.

Well, yes, and the reason is because he agreed to a job that could
render
him dead.
Now, her husband is filing for divorce.

Yes, it's true he agreed to do a job that could render him dead.

Case closed.

That
is something all parents must accept when their child signs the dotted
line;

Yes.

however, they still deserve the right to know why our country
sacrificed their children.

Whose side are you on?

This isn't about sides,

It is to me. How can you win a war without knowing the sides?

I am for wanting to know the truth..even if it
means admitting I was wrong.

Which is a good thing. But, you don't need to be wrong, right?

What did they die for?

They were ordered to do a job. If you don't like it, then don't join.
The draft serves us better than this ***** welfare army.

Wait a minute Johnny, I don't know if you are a parent or not but I am.

Does that mean you would rather your son or daughter go into the welfare
army and be killed in a war that would confuse you as to why we are involved
in it?

And if that was my child, while I couldn't stop him or her from
joining, if they died I would want to know why and what for.
It's only fair, and a parent has the right to ask that.

Sure thing. But there is no difference in a welfare army and the draft.
Both are there to guard and/or fight.

What are they dying for Johnny?

Open your eyes and see. They are dying because they are being killed.
Why are Iraqis dying?
For is a moot point.
Dead is dead.

Seriously, tell me.

Tried to.
I do not dwell on all this vain speculation.
Dead is dead.
Who cares what they are dying for?

I do Johnny, as many other Americans do. As a vet myself, I care about
our military and what they are doing. I'm sorry Johnny, as much as I
would like to support your position and normally I do, I can't this
time.

Sorry. I can understand the questioning.
But, sometimes it is easier just to look at it the way I was telling you. If
you don't it is possible you will never find the a better answer. Semper
Fidelis, right?

Dead is dead.

Because like most Americans, I am asking the same question now.

The answer will never change.

Johnny, you know that for the most part I am going to agree with most
of your positions,

I appreciate that.

but in the war in Iraq, I am wondering why we are
there.

Because our military saw it fit to be involved there and anyone else who
wanted them there for whatever reason they saw fit to send them there.
You know the people of the USA are allowed to run wild and are duped into
funding the activities of foreign interests, don't you?
The days of real Constitutional rule in the USA were gone in 1973.

We were lied too Johnny, it's as simple as that and we must realize
that our President along with intelligence was wrong.

I do not care if we were lied to or not. We are there and we went in and
we
must complete the task in the best way we can.

Can we? The insurgency is growing Johnny, their attacks are becoming
more sophisticated.

So, we will probably pull out eventually.
That could work to our advantage and save us from having to foot the entire
reparations bill.

It's clear that they don't want our way of life
and the longer we are there the more likely the insurgency is going to
grow and the hatred towards the U.S. is going to grow. It's time, in
my opinion, that the U.S. swallow some pride and just admit this was
the wrong thing to do.

I won't.
That is too much bad to say about Bush, imo.
I wasn't wrong, and I do not think Mr. Bush was wrong.

Like you, I am entitled to my opinion. And in my opinion, we made a
mistake.

It ain't over 'til it's over.

Parents shouldn't be looked upon as a military factory and be
expected to pump out kids so when they are old enough they can join the
military and die for no reason. Parents are losing their children,
wife's are losing their husbands, sisters and brothers are losing their
siblings. They deserve an answer Johnny, they need to know what they
died for.

Can you ask them?

I leave that to our President
and his men to decide what is best, and I am glad he only has 'til 2009.
Hopefully, we will not need to invade Iran.

I hope not too because if we do, kiss the price of oil goodbye..it will
sky rocket and a lot of us here at home will be in big trouble.
Nuclear weapons will most likely be used and we will be in a world of
trouble.

Russia learned their lesson and had to tuck their tail between their
legs after they outspent themselves fighting a war that could not be
won. I don't want to see the U.S. follow in their footsteps and make
the same mistake.

Ok. I read all that.

I very much do not like to fight.
This is deja vu 'all over again', huh?
Vietnam, OPEC oil sky high.
Will inflation begin to seep in next?

Isn't it already?

Not bad though.
It isn't as bad as ti was in the seventies, not even close.
Gold is at ~$450 an ounce which isn't bad either, imo.

As far as what these loons, like keegan, humphrey, somewriter (who by
the way has about fifty different alias and is actually talking to
herself using two different alias), and other loons..they are just
that..loons. I don't pay attention to their crying and whining, they
are extremist.

Sometimes, extremists can bring the thing back to center, but I do not
see
many of these extrmeists as being so extreme as far as I see them as the
types that will do whatever society seems to think is the chique thing to
do.
I think they are stylists, and have no regard for people who are not 'in
touch'.
Abortion is still chique to some people and so is homosexuality.
It isn't much different from people who think bad about people who dress
differently than they dress.

Like the hard core right wingers they accuse of being blind, they are
no better. They are blind to other possibilities and to the possibility
that they are often wrong.

Sure seems that way.

But seriously Johnny, if you were President Bush and I was Cindy
Sheehan and I asked you..
"Mr. President, why did my son have to die"?

What would you say?

"Sorry, but he was a soldier, ma'am."

Well Johnny, as much as I like to agree with you and you certainly have
your right to hold your opinion, this is one time that I respectfully
have to say I can't hold that opinion. A mother, father, sister,
brother, and/or wife deserves more than that. They too, made a
sacrifice.

They get more than that.
You forgot about the commendations and flag on casket stuff?
Remember you are in the U.S.A.
Don't join the military if you don't feel up to fighting.
Any more questions?