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"Sound of Trumpet" |
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20 Jul 2007 09:16:07 PM |
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Colorado One Step Closer To Outlawing Abortion |
Colorado One Step Closer to Outlawing Abortion
Constitutionally Right ^ | 7/20/2007 | Charles Signorile
Posted on 07/20/2007 7:15:35 AM PDT by CharlesS
Colorado may be the first State to stand up and say in one collective
voice, all human life is equal. A proposed amendment to the State's
Constitution recently was given tentative approval by a State board,
putting it on a path to be voted on in 2008. The Amendment does not
refer to abortion directly, however it attempts to take advantage of a
loophole left in the Roe v. Wade decision which effectively legalized
abortion nationwide. The Amendment reads:
Be it Enacted by the People of the State of Colorado: SECTION 1.
Article II of the constitution of the state of Colorado is amended BY
THE ADDITION OF A NEW SECTION to read: Section 31. Person defined. AS
USED IN SECTIONS 3, 6, AND 25 OF ARTICLE II OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION,
THE TERMS "PERSON" OR "PERSONS" SHALL INCLUDE ANY HUMAN BEING FROM THE
MOMENT OF FERTILIZATION.
By defining "personhood" as including and human being from the moment
of fertilization, the State will be giving unborn children
constitutional rights which the court did not recognize in 1973. In
fact Justice Harry Blackmun, who was the author of the 1973 opinion
stated: "[If the] suggestion of personhood [for the unborn] is
established, the [abortion rights] case, of course, collapses, for the
fetus' right to life is then guaranteed specifically by the [14th]
Amendment."
Based on this statement, Colorado residents hope to now outlaw
abortion in their State by establishing personhood. If the amendment
were to receive voter approval in 2008, it will certainly be met by
lawsuits from Planned Parenthood or other such organizations, and in
all likelihood will eventually be decided on by the Supreme Court.
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| User: "ike milligan" |
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| Title: Re: Colorado One Step Closer To Outlawing Abortion |
21 Jul 2007 02:01:14 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote in message
news:1184984167.458711.255600@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Colorado One Step Closer to Outlawing Abortion
Constitutionally Right ^ | 7/20/2007 | Charles Signorile
Posted on 07/20/2007 7:15:35 AM PDT by CharlesS
Colorado may be the first State to stand up and say in one collective
voice, all human life is equal.
Equal to what?
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| User: "Robert" |
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| Title: Re: Colorado One Step Closer To Outlawing Abortion |
22 Jul 2007 01:06:59 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:01:14 GMT, "ike milligan"
<accordiondoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote in message
news:1184984167.458711.255600@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Colorado One Step Closer to Outlawing Abortion
Constitutionally Right ^ | 7/20/2007 | Charles Signorile
Posted on 07/20/2007 7:15:35 AM PDT by CharlesS
Colorado may be the first State to stand up and say in one collective
voice, all human life is equal.
Equal to what?
Each other, and no life has the power to force another human to
support it's life. So no fetus has the right to force a woman to
sustain it. Same way no one can be forced to give blood, a far less
dangerous procedure than carrying a fetus to term.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "John Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Colorado One Step Closer To Outlawing Abortion |
21 Jul 2007 01:01:35 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote in message
news:1184984167.458711.255600@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
Colorado One Step Closer to Outlawing Abortion
Constitutionally Right ^ | 7/20/2007 | Charles Signorile
Posted on 07/20/2007 7:15:35 AM PDT by CharlesS
Colorado may be the first State to stand up and say in one collective
voice, all human life is equal. A proposed amendment to the State's
Constitution recently was given tentative approval by a State board,
putting it on a path to be voted on in 2008. The Amendment does not
refer to abortion directly, however it attempts to take advantage of a
loophole left in the Roe v. Wade decision which effectively legalized
abortion nationwide. The Amendment reads:
Be it Enacted by the People of the State of Colorado: SECTION 1.
Article II of the constitution of the state of Colorado is amended BY
THE ADDITION OF A NEW SECTION to read: Section 31. Person defined. AS
USED IN SECTIONS 3, 6, AND 25 OF ARTICLE II OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION,
THE TERMS "PERSON" OR "PERSONS" SHALL INCLUDE ANY HUMAN BEING FROM THE
MOMENT OF FERTILIZATION.
Yo!
*****!
That's the logic that caused the FALL of Roe V. Wade.
A state has neither the authority, the knowlege or the right to define when
human life begins.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Colorado One Step Closer To Outlawing Abortion |
21 Jul 2007 01:26:50 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:16:07 -0700 there was an Ancient Sound of
Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
THE ADDITION OF A NEW SECTION to read: Section 31. Person defined. AS
USED IN SECTIONS 3, 6, AND 25 OF ARTICLE II OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION,
THE TERMS "PERSON" OR "PERSONS" SHALL INCLUDE ANY HUMAN BEING FROM THE
MOMENT OF FERTILIZATION.
And how exactly are they going to fix that date? I was born on July
4th, 1966. I was conceived at some nebulous point approximatly 27
weeks earlier, give or take a few weeks. The question of a person's
actual legal, age is going to get complex!
This has serious legal ramifications. For example pregnant women will
no longer be able to travel in private cars, siunce Colorado law
requires all persons weighing under 40lbs to be in approved child
seats!
And, of course, this isn't constitutional since the Constitution
defines a citizen as someone *born* in this country. Colorado would
suddenly have a booming population of undocumented illegal aliens.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Colorado One Step Closer To Outlawing Abortion |
20 Jul 2007 09:31:51 PM |
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On Jul 20, 10:16 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
Colorado One Step Closer to Outlawing Abortion
Constitutionally Right ^ | 7/20/2007 | Charles Signorile
Posted on 07/20/2007 7:15:35 AM PDT by CharlesS
Colorado may be the first State to stand up and say in one collective
voice, all human life is equal. A proposed amendment to the State's
Constitution recently was given tentative approval by a State board,
putting it on a path to be voted on in 2008. The Amendment does not
refer to abortion directly, however it attempts to take advantage of a
loophole left in the Roe v. Wade decision which effectively legalized
abortion nationwide. The Amendment reads:
Be it Enacted by the People of the State of Colorado: SECTION 1.
Article II of the constitution of the state of Colorado is amended BY
THE ADDITION OF A NEW SECTION to read: Section 31. Person defined. AS
USED IN SECTIONS 3, 6, AND 25 OF ARTICLE II OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION,
THE TERMS "PERSON" OR "PERSONS" SHALL INCLUDE ANY HUMAN BEING FROM THE
MOMENT OF FERTILIZATION.
By defining "personhood" as including and human being from the moment
of fertilization, the State will be giving unborn children
constitutional rights which the court did not recognize in 1973. In
fact Justice Harry Blackmun, who was the author of the 1973 opinion
stated: "[If the] suggestion of personhood [for the unborn] is
established, the [abortion rights] case, of course, collapses, for the
fetus' right to life is then guaranteed specifically by the [14th]
Amendment."
Based on this statement, Colorado residents hope to now outlaw
abortion in their State by establishing personhood. If the amendment
were to receive voter approval in 2008, it will certainly be met by
lawsuits from Planned Parenthood or other such organizations, and in
all likelihood will eventually be decided on by the Supreme Court.
Well I am sure the woman will still have the right to remove unwanted
person
or persons from their bodies, perhaps the Christians can have this
person or
persons planted in their bodies.
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| User: "brique" |
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| Title: Re: Colorado One Step Closer To Outlawing Abortion |
21 Jul 2007 01:57:15 AM |
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Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184985111.772267.118670@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 10:16 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:
Colorado One Step Closer to Outlawing Abortion
Constitutionally Right ^ | 7/20/2007 | Charles Signorile
Posted on 07/20/2007 7:15:35 AM PDT by CharlesS
Colorado may be the first State to stand up and say in one collective
voice, all human life is equal. A proposed amendment to the State's
Constitution recently was given tentative approval by a State board,
putting it on a path to be voted on in 2008. The Amendment does not
refer to abortion directly, however it attempts to take advantage of a
loophole left in the Roe v. Wade decision which effectively legalized
abortion nationwide. The Amendment reads:
Be it Enacted by the People of the State of Colorado: SECTION 1.
Article II of the constitution of the state of Colorado is amended BY
THE ADDITION OF A NEW SECTION to read: Section 31. Person defined. AS
USED IN SECTIONS 3, 6, AND 25 OF ARTICLE II OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION,
THE TERMS "PERSON" OR "PERSONS" SHALL INCLUDE ANY HUMAN BEING FROM THE
MOMENT OF FERTILIZATION.
By defining "personhood" as including and human being from the moment
of fertilization, the State will be giving unborn children
constitutional rights which the court did not recognize in 1973. In
fact Justice Harry Blackmun, who was the author of the 1973 opinion
stated: "[If the] suggestion of personhood [for the unborn] is
established, the [abortion rights] case, of course, collapses, for the
fetus' right to life is then guaranteed specifically by the [14th]
Amendment."
Based on this statement, Colorado residents hope to now outlaw
abortion in their State by establishing personhood. If the amendment
were to receive voter approval in 2008, it will certainly be met by
lawsuits from Planned Parenthood or other such organizations, and in
all likelihood will eventually be decided on by the Supreme Court.
Well I am sure the woman will still have the right to remove unwanted
person
or persons from their bodies, perhaps the Christians can have this
person or
persons planted in their bodies.
it would be an interesting case, after all, the state has to enforce
property rights and the women can demand asistance in removing unwanted
persons from her property.... She would also have grounds for compensation
from the unwanted person... you know, damage to fictures and fittings also
compensation for the theft of sustenance and blood products.
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