| Topic: |
Science > Abortion |
| User: |
"J Young" |
| Date: |
09 Oct 2005 10:50:53 AM |
| Object: |
Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can take
full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an unprecedented
scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have never
been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse than
the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
Columbus.
.
|
|
| User: "Ike" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
11 Oct 2005 09:18:51 AM |
|
|
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can take
full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an unprecedented
scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have never
been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse than
the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
Columbus.
Actually the so-called genocide you referred to was mostly accomplished
without a conscious intention by the Eropeans, in that 90% or more of the
casualties were caused by the first wave of smallpox long before the
Europeans invaded the decimated areas. This is now believed to have been
brought ashore by a single infected person during Cortes invasion of Mexico.
Genocide means different things to different people. The automobile is an
instrument of genocide since it prevents the wise use of the land. certain
ethnic grouips control most of the automobiles. QED.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Johnny" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
10 Oct 2005 08:37:17 AM |
|
|
Did you consider on the reservations?
.
|
|
|
| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
10 Oct 2005 08:47:38 AM |
|
|
Have you considered a brain transplant?
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
news:X4u2f.2525$Ls.1850@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
: Did you consider on the reservations?
:
:
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "David W. Barnes" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 10:57:51 AM |
|
|
In article <1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can take
full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an unprecedented
scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have never
been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse than
the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
Columbus.
And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with this?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Jim07D5" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 11:35:29 AM |
|
|
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> said:
In article <1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can take
full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an unprecedented
scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have never
been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse than
the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
Columbus.
And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with this?
In "...Christopher Columbus can take full credit as the symbol of
their demise..." J Young confuses the metaphorical for the literally
attributable, which can be expected from the God-soaked. Oh, yeah,
then he calls it a legacy, which is a third category entirely.
Typical scatter shot attempt at provocation.
--- Jim07D5
.
|
|
|
| User: "David W. Barnes" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 11:52:17 AM |
|
|
In article <t5hik19h75ppvmenjdvtn5e8nsp2kki36d@4ax.com>, Jim07D5
<Jim07D5@nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> said:
In article <1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can take
full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an unprecedented
scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have never
been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse than
the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
Columbus.
And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with this?
In "...Christopher Columbus can take full credit as the symbol of
their demise..." J Young confuses the metaphorical for the literally
attributable, which can be expected from the God-soaked. Oh, yeah,
then he calls it a legacy, which is a third category entirely.
Typical scatter shot attempt at provocation.
--- Jim07D5
Plus, I believe J Young is one of these fundamentalist Christian Right
Wing types. Christopher Columbus was devoutly pious. So if you are
going to blame Christopher Columbus, you need to blame Jesus Christ.
.
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
10 Oct 2005 12:40:34 AM |
|
|
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:52:17 GMT, "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com>
wrote:
In article <t5hik19h75ppvmenjdvtn5e8nsp2kki36d@4ax.com>, Jim07D5
<Jim07D5@nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> said:
In article <1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can take
full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an unprecedented
scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have never
been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse than
the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
Columbus.
And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with this?
In "...Christopher Columbus can take full credit as the symbol of
their demise..." J Young confuses the metaphorical for the literally
attributable, which can be expected from the God-soaked. Oh, yeah,
then he calls it a legacy, which is a third category entirely.
Typical scatter shot attempt at provocation.
--- Jim07D5
Plus, I believe J Young is one of these fundamentalist Christian Right
Wing types. Christopher Columbus was devoutly pious. So if you are
going to blame Christopher Columbus, you need to blame Jesus Christ.
....or, Ninure Saunders.
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "J Young" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 12:59:05 PM |
|
|
Jim07D5 wrote:
In "...Christopher Columbus can take full credit as the symbol of
their demise..." J Young confuses the metaphorical for the literally
attributable, which can be expected from the God-soaked. Oh, yeah,
then he calls it a legacy, which is a third category entirely.
Typical scatter shot attempt at provocation.
--- Jim07D5
Your comments about my misuse of certain terminology is noted. Thankyou
for your valuable input about the subject that was being discussed;
this was your usual contribution.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Jim07D5" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 02:48:41 PM |
|
|
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> said:
Jim07D5 wrote:
In "...Christopher Columbus can take full credit as the symbol of
their demise..." J Young confuses the metaphorical for the literally
attributable, which can be expected from the God-soaked. Oh, yeah,
then he calls it a legacy, which is a third category entirely.
Typical scatter shot attempt at provocation.
--- Jim07D5
Your comments about my misuse of certain terminology is noted. Thankyou
for your valuable input about the subject that was being discussed;
this was your usual contribution.
Glad to be of help. If any European attitude and agenda can be pointed
to as the cause of the genocide, it is greed, served by superior
military might, and rationalized by Christian fervor.
--- Jim07D5
.
|
|
|
| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 03:56:08 PM |
|
|
Jim07D5 wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> said:
Jim07D5 wrote:
In "...Christopher Columbus can take full credit as the symbol of
their demise..." J Young confuses the metaphorical for the literally
attributable, which can be expected from the God-soaked. Oh, yeah,
then he calls it a legacy, which is a third category entirely.
Typical scatter shot attempt at provocation.
--- Jim07D5
Your comments about my misuse of certain terminology is noted. Thankyou
for your valuable input about the subject that was being discussed;
this was your usual contribution.
Glad to be of help. If any European attitude and agenda can be pointed
to as the cause of the genocide, it is greed, served by superior
military might, and rationalized by Christian fervor.
--- Jim07D5
That plus the fact that Europeans of that time (and some still today)
thought they were superior to aborigines everywhere.
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Andrealphus" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 11:02:24 AM |
|
|
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:091020050857519397%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can take
full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an unprecedented
scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have never
been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse than
the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
Columbus.
And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with this?
"The Trouble with Columbus"
by Paul Gray
http://muweb.millersville.edu/~columbus/data/art/GRAY-01.ART
.
|
|
|
| User: "David W. Barnes" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 11:52:17 AM |
|
|
In article <kab2f.11850$QE1.5829@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:091020050857519397%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can take
full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an unprecedented
scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have never
been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse than
the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
Columbus.
And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with this?
"The Trouble with Columbus"
by Paul Gray
http://muweb.millersville.edu/~columbus/data/art/GRAY-01.ART
I found this interesting sentence:
"At the heart of the hubbub lies a fundamental disagreement,
not so much about Columbus himself as about the Columbian legacy."
.
|
|
|
| User: "Andrealphus" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 12:04:38 PM |
|
|
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:091020050952171590%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <kab2f.11850$QE1.5829@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:091020050857519397%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can take
full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an
unprecedented
scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have never
been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse than
the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
Columbus.
And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with this?
"The Trouble with Columbus"
by Paul Gray
http://muweb.millersville.edu/~columbus/data/art/GRAY-01.ART
I found this interesting sentence:
"At the heart of the hubbub lies a fundamental disagreement,
not so much about Columbus himself as about the Columbian legacy."
There is still a lot of dispute about both Columbus the man, and the
Columbian legacy. We still teach Columbus in grade schools as a benevolent
explorer, yet his own diary very much contradict that notion. His beliefs
were the same as most of Europes of that period, the white race was blessed
by God and given dominion over the animals. Non-whites were animals. It is
known that he and his men killed dozens of natives during their visits to
the "New World". By his own words, his first encounters with said natives
were peaceful. His writings does not go into a lot of detail on the whys,
so it's not known exactly who caused the trouble.
.
|
|
|
| User: "topmind" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 10:05:23 PM |
|
|
Andrealphus wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:091020050952171590%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <kab2f.11850$QE1.5829@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:091020050857519397%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can take
full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an
unprecedented
scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have never
been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse than
the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
Columbus.
And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with this?
"The Trouble with Columbus"
by Paul Gray
http://muweb.millersville.edu/~columbus/data/art/GRAY-01.ART
I found this interesting sentence:
"At the heart of the hubbub lies a fundamental disagreement,
not so much about Columbus himself as about the Columbian legacy."
There is still a lot of dispute about both Columbus the man, and the
Columbian legacy. We still teach Columbus in grade schools as a benevolent
explorer, yet his own diary very much contradict that notion. His beliefs
were the same as most of Europes of that period, the white race was blessed
by God and given dominion over the animals. Non-whites were animals. It is
known that he and his men killed dozens of natives during their visits to
the "New World". By his own words, his first encounters with said natives
were peaceful. His writings does not go into a lot of detail on the whys,
so it's not known exactly who caused the trouble.
Actually, European flus and diseases did far more damage than European
weapons.
-T-
.
|
|
|
| User: "Andrealphus" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 10:13:13 PM |
|
|
"topmind" <topmind@technologist.com> wrote in message
news:1128913523.557565.249750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:091020050952171590%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <kab2f.11850$QE1.5829@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Andrealphus <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:091020050857519397%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can
take
full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an
unprecedented
scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have
never
been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse
than
the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
Columbus.
And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with this?
"The Trouble with Columbus"
by Paul Gray
http://muweb.millersville.edu/~columbus/data/art/GRAY-01.ART
I found this interesting sentence:
"At the heart of the hubbub lies a fundamental disagreement,
not so much about Columbus himself as about the Columbian legacy."
There is still a lot of dispute about both Columbus the man, and the
Columbian legacy. We still teach Columbus in grade schools as a
benevolent
explorer, yet his own diary very much contradict that notion. His
beliefs
were the same as most of Europes of that period, the white race was
blessed
by God and given dominion over the animals. Non-whites were animals. It
is
known that he and his men killed dozens of natives during their visits to
the "New World". By his own words, his first encounters with said
natives
were peaceful. His writings does not go into a lot of detail on the
whys,
so it's not known exactly who caused the trouble.
Actually, European flus and diseases did far more damage than European
weapons.
Yeah, so your point to what I was saying would be....???
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 08:30:30 PM |
|
|
What most people do not realise is that Columbus Day is no longer about
Columbus at all. The majority of all activities are about celebrating
Italian-American heritage. It has become the Italians' St. Patrick's
Day.
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:kab2f.11850$QE1.5829@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
:
: "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
: news:091020050857519397%dbarnes@aol.com...
: > In article <1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
J
: > Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
: >
: >> They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can
take
: >> full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an
unprecedented
: >> scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have
never
: >> been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse
than
: >> the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
: >> Columbus.
: >
: > And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with this?
:
: "The Trouble with Columbus"
:
: by Paul Gray
:
: http://muweb.millersville.edu/~columbus/data/art/GRAY-01.ART
:
:
.
|
|
|
| User: "Jim07D5" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 08:33:34 PM |
|
|
"ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> said:
What most people do not realise is that Columbus Day is no longer about
Columbus at all. The majority of all activities are about celebrating
Italian-American heritage. It has become the Italians' St. Patrick's
Day.
Saint Patrick committed snake-ocide.
--- Jim07D5
.
|
|
|
| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 09:48:00 PM |
|
|
No he didn't but that is not the topic.
"Jim07D5" <Jim07D5@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:93hjk11r9ac7do8h01fp7atpb63jde64d3@4ax.com...
: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> said:
:
: >What most people do not realise is that Columbus Day is no longer
about
: >Columbus at all. The majority of all activities are about celebrating
: >Italian-American heritage. It has become the Italians' St. Patrick's
: >Day.
: Saint Patrick committed snake-ocide.
: --- Jim07D5
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Andrealphus" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 09:30:04 PM |
|
|
"ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:xsj2f.6411$Lp.1626@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
What most people do not realise is that Columbus Day is no longer about
Columbus at all. The majority of all activities are about celebrating
Italian-American heritage.
Since when? We have a rather large Italian community in my area, and they
don't celibrate Columbus Day as a personal holiday at all. For most people,
it's not even a day off work holiday, unless you're a government worker.
It has become the Italians' St. Patrick's
Day.
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:kab2f.11850$QE1.5829@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
:
: "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
: news:091020050857519397%dbarnes@aol.com...
: > In article <1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
J
: > Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
: >
: >> They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus can
take
: >> full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an
unprecedented
: >> scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have
never
: >> been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it worse
than
: >> the Native-American population. That is the legacy of Christopher
: >> Columbus.
: >
: > And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with this?
:
: "The Trouble with Columbus"
:
: by Paul Gray
:
: http://muweb.millersville.edu/~columbus/data/art/GRAY-01.ART
:
:
.
|
|
|
| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 09:59:01 PM |
|
|
What are too stupid to do the research yourself? You just have to
automatically call me a liar?
http://www.eagletribune.com/news/stories/20011009/HA_003.htm
Italian-Americans celebrate Columbus Day in style
http://static.elibrary.com/i/italianvoicethe/september101998/americanscelebrate27thanniversaryofcolumbusday/index.html
Italian Voice, The
September 10, 1998
Americans Celebrate 27th Anniversary of Columbus Day
This year marks the 27th anniversary of the observation of Columbus Day
as a Legal, public holiday, reports the National Italian American
Foundation (NIAF).
House Representative Robert McClory (R-Illinois) proposed Public Law
90-363 on June 28, 1968. It Established the dates for several new
federal holidays, including Columbus Day. The bill was passed and went
into effect January 1, 1971, officially making Columbus Day the second
Monday in October every year.
This year also marks the 22nd anniversary of the designation of October
as Italian American Heritage Month. The proclamation was made in 1976 by
President Jimmy Carter.
http://www.usemb.se/Holidays/celebrate/Columbus.html
Americans might not have a Columbus Day if Christopher Columbus had not
been born in Italy. Out of pride for their native son, the Italian
population of New York City organized the first celebration of the
discovery of America on October 12, 1866. The next year, more Italian
Organizations in other cities held banquets, parades and dances on that
date. In 1869, when Italians of San Francisco celebrated October 12,
they called it Columbus Day.
In 1905, Colorado became the first state to observe a Columbus Day. Over
the next few decades other states followed. In 1937, then- President
Franklin Roosevelt proclaimed every October 12 as Columbus Day. Since
1971, it has been celebrated on the second Monday in October.
Although it is generally accepted that Christopher Columbus was the
first European to have discovered the New World of the Americas, there
is still some controversy over this claim. Some researchers and
proponents of other explorers attribute the first sightings to the early
Scandinavian Vikings or the voyages of Irish missionaries which predate
the Columbus visit in 1492. The controversy may never be fully resolved
to everyone's satisfaction, but 1992 marked the 500th anniversary of the
Columbus discovery.
http://www.sicilianculture.com/news/2002-october.htm
The year 2002 marks the 31st anniversary of the observation of Columbus
Day as a legal, public holiday. It also marks the 26th anniversary of
the designation of October as Italian American Heritage Month by the
President. The proclamation was made in 1976 by President Jimmy Carter.
The nation's estimated 25 million Italian Americans, the fifth largest
ethnic group in America, hold cultural and commemorative events in
Columbus' honor in October. "Columbus Day is not just a celebration of
Columbus' arrival, but a day Italian Americans share their heritage with
all Americans. Together we share a common heritage."
"In order to maintain our wonderful heritage, we must continue to
commemorate the achievements of many people such as Columbus," said NIAF
President Joseph R. Cerrell. "The Italian explorer inspires us to lead
lives of courage and determination."
http://www.rumela.com/events/events_october_columbus.htm
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:Mmk2f.12462$q1.12336@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
:
: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
: news:xsj2f.6411$Lp.1626@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
: > What most people do not realise is that Columbus Day is no longer
about
: > Columbus at all. The majority of all activities are about
celebrating
: > Italian-American heritage.
:
: Since when? We have a rather large Italian community in my area, and
they
: don't celibrate Columbus Day as a personal holiday at all. For most
people,
: it's not even a day off work holiday, unless you're a government
worker.
:
: It has become the Italians' St. Patrick's
: > Day.
: >
: >
: > "Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
: > news:kab2f.11850$QE1.5829@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
: > :
: > : "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
: > : news:091020050857519397%dbarnes@aol.com...
: > : > In article
<1128873053.074962.309640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
: > J
: > : > Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
: > : >
: > : >> They're dead, that's where they are; and Christopher Columbus
can
: > take
: > : >> full credit as the symbol of their demise. Genocide on an
: > unprecedented
: > : >> scale was perpetrated on these poor people from which they have
: > never
: > : >> been able to recover. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, got it
worse
: > than
: > : >> the Native-American population. That is the legacy of
Christopher
: > : >> Columbus.
: > : >
: > : > And just how did Christopher Columbus have anything to do with
this?
: > :
: > : "The Trouble with Columbus"
: > :
: > : by Paul Gray
: > :
: > : http://muweb.millersville.edu/~columbus/data/art/GRAY-01.ART
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
.
|
|
|
| User: "Andrealphus" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 10:00:15 PM |
|
|
"ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:bLk2f.6610$Lp.4954@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
What are too stupid to do the research yourself? You just have to
automatically call me a liar?
What do I need to research? There's an Italian community here that numbers
well over 2 million, and they do nothing special for Columbus Day. All I
have to do is ask them, or simply look out my door tomorrow. You just have
to go and make a boob out of yourself.
.
|
|
|
| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 10:56:08 PM |
|
|
You just can't handle being wrong can you? "Here" does not represent all
of America, and you seem to be unable to tell us where "here" is.
http://www.aviso.net/dir/usa/italian/events/index.htm
October 1 - 2 Richmond, VA. USA VIVA! ITALIA – Richmond’s Original
Italian Street Festival.
Oct. 1 - Nov. 12 San Francisco, CA. Italian Film Festival - 27th Annual
celebration of Italian cinema.
October 7 - 9 Seaside Heights, NJ. Columbus Day Parade - Ocean County's
Parade and Italian Festival.
October 8 San Francisco, CA Cal-Italia Wine & Food Festival - "La Dolce
Vita", ... the good life. California style!
October 8 - 9 Houston, TX. USA 27th Annual Houston Italian Festival -
Share the heritage of Italy!
October 9 Baltimore, MD. USA Columbus Day Parade -
October 10 Chicago, IL. USA Columbus Day Parade - Columbus from Balbo to
Monroe.
October 10 New York, NY. USA Columbus Day Parade - The 61st Annual
Columbus Day Parade.
October TBA Santa Ana, CA. USA Columbus Day Italian Festival and
Celebration
October TBA Pittsburgh, PA. USA Columbus Day Parade
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:3Pk2f.12471$q1.2111@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
:
: What do I need to research? There's an Italian community here that
numbers
: well over 2 million, and they do nothing special for Columbus Day.
All I
: have to do is ask them, or simply look out my door tomorrow. You
just have
: to go and make a boob out of yourself.
:
:
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 10:58:36 PM |
|
|
http://www.albuquerqueartsalliance.org/cultural/survey/italian-cs.htm
On Columbus Day, which is celebrated on the second Monday in October,
the Albuquerque Italian community has a Spaghettata (spaghetti dinner).
This has been held at the Lady of Our Sorrow in Bernalillo, as are a
number of feast days and celebrations. The priest there is Italian, and
lets the community have use of the space and the kitchen. The
celebration of Columbus Day was begun by Italian immigrants in New York
in 1866. Other communities followed suit, and three years later the
Italians in San Francisco held a celebration on October 12th, and called
it Columbus Day. In 1937 President Franklin Delano Roosevelt declared
the day a national holiday. Although there has been much opposition to
the holiday in recent years, many Italian-Americans take this holiday as
an opportunity to celebrate Italian-American culture and heritage.
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:3Pk2f.12471$q1.2111@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
:
: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
: news:bLk2f.6610$Lp.4954@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
: > What are too stupid to do the research yourself? You just have to
: > automatically call me a liar?
:
:
: What do I need to research? There's an Italian community here that
numbers
: well over 2 million, and they do nothing special for Columbus Day.
All I
: have to do is ask them, or simply look out my door tomorrow. You
just have
: to go and make a boob out of yourself.
:
:
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 10:42:39 PM |
|
|
http://www.communitylink.com/us/ma/harborarea/guide/calendar.htm
Columbus Day Parade - East Boston
Marching bands, clowns and floats wind their way through East Boston on
the Sunday before Columbus Day. Starting on Bennington Street at the
Revere line, the parade proceeds down Chelsea Street, through Maverick
Square and finishes in Central Square. The parade alternates between
East Boston (even years) and North End (odd years).
617-569-5000
Columbus Day Parade - Revere
Starting on Broadway and turning right onto Revere Street, this annual
parade on the Columbus Day holiday celebrates Italian-American heritage
as well as Christopher Columbus.
781-289-8009
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:3Pk2f.12471$q1.2111@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
:
: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
: news:bLk2f.6610$Lp.4954@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
: > What are too stupid to do the research yourself? You just have to
: > automatically call me a liar?
:
:
: What do I need to research? There's an Italian community here that
numbers
: well over 2 million, and they do nothing special for Columbus Day.
All I
: have to do is ask them, or simply look out my door tomorrow. You
just have
: to go and make a boob out of yourself.
:
:
.
|
|
|
| User: "Andrealphus" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
10 Oct 2005 05:18:39 AM |
|
|
You can post this crap all day long, and it doesn't mean a thing. Itailian
American Heritage and Columbus Day are two seperate things.
"ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:2pl2f.6709$Lp.1146@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
http://www.communitylink.com/us/ma/harborarea/guide/calendar.htm
Columbus Day Parade - East Boston
Marching bands, clowns and floats wind their way through East Boston on
the Sunday before Columbus Day. Starting on Bennington Street at the
Revere line, the parade proceeds down Chelsea Street, through Maverick
Square and finishes in Central Square. The parade alternates between
East Boston (even years) and North End (odd years).
617-569-5000
Columbus Day Parade - Revere
Starting on Broadway and turning right onto Revere Street, this annual
parade on the Columbus Day holiday celebrates Italian-American heritage
as well as Christopher Columbus.
781-289-8009
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:3Pk2f.12471$q1.2111@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
:
: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
: news:bLk2f.6610$Lp.4954@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
: > What are too stupid to do the research yourself? You just have to
: > automatically call me a liar?
:
:
: What do I need to research? There's an Italian community here that
numbers
: well over 2 million, and they do nothing special for Columbus Day.
All I
: have to do is ask them, or simply look out my door tomorrow. You
just have
: to go and make a boob out of yourself.
:
:
.
|
|
|
| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
10 Oct 2005 05:21:50 AM |
|
|
You can deny the truth all you fucking want, you stupid fucking *****.
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:3er2f.11766$vw6.7652@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
:
: You can post this crap all day long, and it doesn't mean a thing.
Itailian
: American Heritage and Columbus Day are two seperate things.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Andrealphus" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
10 Oct 2005 05:35:56 AM |
|
|
You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and kicked you in the side of the
head. You foul mouthed moron.
"ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:Edr2f.3545$Yl.2204@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
You can deny the truth all you fucking want, you stupid fucking *****.
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:3er2f.11766$vw6.7652@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
:
: You can post this crap all day long, and it doesn't mean a thing.
Itailian
: American Heritage and Columbus Day are two seperate things.
.
|
|
|
| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
10 Oct 2005 05:43:13 AM |
|
|
*plonk*
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:gur2f.11771$vw6.1934@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
:
: You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and kicked you in the side
of the
: head. You foul mouthed moron.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Andrealphus" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
10 Oct 2005 05:47:15 AM |
|
|
"ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:Cxr2f.3546$Yl.1612@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
*plonk*
Plonkity plonk! LOL!
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
|
| Title: Re: Columbus Day 2005: Where are all the Indians? |
09 Oct 2005 10:47:32 PM |
|
|
http://www.italianheritagemonth.com/
Calendar of Events. Don't forget to look at our Calendar of Events for
October 2005 to be announced.
Mission. Our Mission is to promote events and activities throughout the
month of October, and to act as a clearinghouse of information about
Italy, and the contributions of Italians and Italian Americans.
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL3@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:3Pk2f.12471$q1.2111@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
:
: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
: news:bLk2f.6610$Lp.4954@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
: > What are too stupid to do the research yourself? You just have to
: > automatically call me a liar?
:
:
: What do I need to research? There's an Italian community here that
numbers
: well over 2 million, and they do nothing special for Columbus Day.
All I
: have to do is ask them, or simply look out my door tomorrow. You
just have
: to go and make a boob out of yourself.
:
:
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
