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User: "Mike D."
Date: 07 Mar 2005 01:36:33 PM
Object: comment
Has it ever occurred to anyone that the people getting abortions are usually
people who care not for innocent life, and that their offspring are likely
to inherit the same insensitivity and lack of respect for life that they
have? If that is a fact, perhaps it is not as bad that they abort their
pregnancies, because people who would kill their own children are an affront
to nature and God, if God is there, and their children are likely to be of
the same ilk. In other words, let them kill their babies, if that's what
they want, because if the babies they kill are anything like them, the world
might be better off without them. Just a thought, and I am not sure if it is
a vile idea or a valid idea, or both. Mike.
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User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"

Title: Re: comment 07 Mar 2005 11:12:28 PM
"Mike D." <mikdan7@comcast.net> writes:

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the people getting abortions are usually
people who care not for innocent life, and that their offspring are likely
to inherit the same insensitivity and lack of respect for life that they
have?

No, but then the wife and I have been pro-choice since the late 1960s (that's
before RvW, you know), and that didn't stop her from choosing to have a
daughter in 1975...who is also pro-choice, and gave us grandchildren in 1994
and 1997.

If that is a fact, perhaps it is not as bad that they abort their
pregnancies, because people who would kill their own children are an affront
to nature and God, if God is there, and their children are likely to be of
the same ilk.

So, our grandchildren are likely to be pro-choice, too? I have no problem
with that.

In other words, let them kill their babies, if that's what
they want, because if the babies they kill are anything like them, the world
might be better off without them. Just a thought, and I am not sure if it is
a vile idea or a valid idea, or both. Mike.

It's just your mental masturbation, more than likely.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Grand Rapids 1 (March 7)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, March 9 at Chicago, 7:05
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User: "Mike D."

Title: Re: comment 09 Mar 2005 01:25:01 AM
here we go again you read ( I think) a post and answer or rebut statenments
that are not in the post as if they were .
I didn't say pro-choice people, I wrote people who get abortions. I am
tired of pointing out your errors to you, if you did this crap at a
workplace, you would lose your job, most likely. Mike.
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkll8yk9fn.fsf@eris.io.com...

"Mike D." <mikdan7@comcast.net> writes:

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the people getting abortions are

usually

people who care not for innocent life, and that their offspring are

likely

to inherit the same insensitivity and lack of respect for life that they
have?


No, but then the wife and I have been pro-choice since the late 1960s

(that's

before RvW, you know), and that didn't stop her from choosing to have a
daughter in 1975...who is also pro-choice, and gave us grandchildren in

1994

and 1997.

If that is a fact, perhaps it is not as bad that they abort their
pregnancies, because people who would kill their own children are an

affront

to nature and God, if God is there, and their children are likely to be

of

the same ilk.


So, our grandchildren are likely to be pro-choice, too? I have no problem
with that.

In other words, let them kill their babies, if that's what
they want, because if the babies they kill are anything like them, the

world

might be better off without them. Just a thought, and I am not sure if it

is

a vile idea or a valid idea, or both. Mike.


It's just your mental masturbation, more than likely.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Grand Rapids 1 (March 7)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, March 9 at Chicago, 7:05

.
User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"

Title: Re: comment 09 Mar 2005 03:11:49 AM
"Mike D." <mikdan7@comcast.net> writes:

here we go again you read ( I think) a post and answer or rebut statenments
that are not in the post as if they were .
I didn't say pro-choice people, I wrote people who get abortions. I am
tired of pointing out your errors to you, if you did this crap at a
workplace, you would lose your job, most likely. Mike.

Well, since I'm obviously not doing it from my workplace, I guess you'll have
to find something else to whine about, Mr. Natural Law.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Grand Rapids 1 (March 7)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, March 9 at Chicago, 7:05
.



User: "Cracklin Rosie"

Title: Re: comment 10 Mar 2005 11:21:35 AM
"Mike D." <mikdan7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ffOdneZxTaNnH7HfRVn-uw@comcast.com...

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the people getting abortions are

usually

people who care not for innocent life, and that their offspring are likely
to inherit the same insensitivity and lack of respect for life that they
have?

If that is a fact, perhaps it is not as bad that they abort their

pregnancies, because people who would kill their own children are an

affront

to nature and God, if God is there,

## Is this the SAME god who drowned a few million innocent people for not
worshipping him like some kind of Hollywood idol? The same god who created
all diseases like Ebola, parasites, AIDS etc?
and their children are likely to be of

the same ilk. In other words, let them kill their babies, if that's what
they want, because if the babies they kill are anything like them, the

world

might be better off without them. Just a thought, and I am not sure if it

is

a vile idea or a valid idea, or both. Mike.

## Sounds like typical Christian thinking to me.
CR...
.

User: "Andrew W \Paranormal Agnostic"

Title: Re: comment 09 Mar 2005 01:24:32 AM
"Mike D." <mikdan7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ffOdneZxTaNnH7HfRVn-uw@comcast.com...

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the people getting abortions are
usually
people who care not for innocent life, and that their offspring are likely
to inherit the same insensitivity and lack of respect for life that they
have?

Not really. I think humans have abortions for pretty much the same reason
that animals sometimes reject their offspring. They feel that they don't
have the means to properly raise their offspring. Abortion is not as
unnatural as people think.

If that is a fact, perhaps it is not as bad that they abort their
pregnancies, because people who would kill their own children are an
affront
to nature and God, if God is there,

No one knows what the creator force thinks of abortion. Anyone who says they
do is just dishonest with themselves and others.

and their children are likely to be of
the same ilk. In other words, let them kill their babies, if that's what
they want, because if the babies they kill are anything like them, the
world
might be better off without them. Just a thought, and I am not sure if it
is
a vile idea or a valid idea, or both. Mike.


--
Andrew W. (Paranormal Agnostic) An interest in the paranormal (spiritual)
but with acknowledgement that it's existence can neither be proved - to
others, nor disproved (agnostic).
History books that contain no lies are extremely dull. The christian bible
is a very interesting book indeed.
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: comment 07 Mar 2005 11:10:17 PM
Mike D. <mikdan7@comcast.net> wrote:

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the people getting abortions are usually
people who care not for innocent life,

No, I've found that to be true of anti-abortion zealots who care
nothing for people and demand only obedience and suffering.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Craig Chilton -- On 1/20/09, itll be BYE-BYE Bushie! Then, GOOD RIDDANCE!"

Title: Re: comment 07 Mar 2005 09:46:05 PM
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:36:33 -0800,
"Mike D." <mikdan7@comcast.net> wrote:

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the people getting
abortions are usually people who care not for innocent life...

Not to anyone having a modicum of *intelligence.*
FACT: Science has determined that -- due to inadequate
brain architecture/development, reproductive-
process entities before the third trimester have not
yet expereienced conscious awareness.
FACT: Per JAMA, only between 500 and 600 third-trimester
abortions are performed annually in the USA. (Out of
a total of at least 1,200,000 abortions.) So 99.9996%
of abortions involve entities that have NEVER exper-
ienced conscious awareness.
LIKELY FACT: Since NO woman is ever likely to wait until
the 3rd trimester to bave an *elective*
abortion, all 500 to 600 of the 3rd-trimester
ones almost *surely* are due to medical
exigencies.
FACT: Entities that have never experienced conscious aware-
ness possess the qualities of EITHER "innocence" OR
guilt to precisely the *same* degree as does the average
BRICK.
THUS, **this** FACT: Entities prior to the third trimester are
EQUAL, in **all** important ways,
to the entities that comprise Stage ONE of the 4-stage repro-
ductive process; the gamete stage. the entities of ALL FOUR
stages of the process are:
-- Unique
-- POTENTIAL people
-- Human (adj.; *not* "human being")
-- Alive (One cannot produce a live zygote -- Stage 2
entity -- by combining 2 gametes that are *dead*.)
And THUS, *this* HYPOCRISY: The Anti-Choicers
who hatefully seek
to FORCE tens of millions of women (over a span of years)
to gestate-to term against their will -- a very real form of RAPE --
*ignore* the more than QUADRILLION potential people that
are being electively aborted *daily*, worldwide... by men.
Entities that are the *equivalent*, in all relevant ways, to the
comparative handful that they inanely seek to "defend" at
the vile EXPENSE of the well-being and full range of future
opportunities of the women they seek to torture.
Anti-Choicers are loathsome bigots who are
totally without excuse.
(Oh... and by the way... about those "babies" you whined
about in your post. ALL babies have been BORN. So
if you're concerned about any of those being killed, take
it up with someone who knows about that sort of thing,
like Susan Smith.)
<remaining mindless swill flushed>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.
User: "Chris"

Title: Re: comment 08 Mar 2005 11:29:24 AM
"Craig Chilton -- On 1/20/09, it'll be BYE-BYE Bushie! Then, GOOD RIDDANCE!"
<xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:42321f00.5233563@netnews.mchsi.com...

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:36:33 -0800,
"Mike D." <mikdan7@comcast.net> wrote:

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the people getting
abortions are usually people who care not for innocent life...


Not to anyone having a modicum of *intelligence.*

FACT: Science has determined that -- due to inadequate
brain architecture/development, reproductive-
process entities before the third trimester have not
yet expereienced conscious awareness.

FACT: Per JAMA, only between 500 and 600 third-trimester
abortions are performed annually in the USA. (Out of
a total of at least 1,200,000 abortions.) So 99.9996%
of abortions involve entities that have NEVER exper-
ienced conscious awareness.

LIKELY FACT: Since NO woman is ever likely to wait until
the 3rd trimester to bave an *elective*
abortion, all 500 to 600 of the 3rd-trimester
ones almost *surely* are due to medical
exigencies.

FACT: Entities that have never experienced conscious aware-
ness possess the qualities of EITHER "innocence" OR
guilt to precisely the *same* degree as does the average
BRICK.

THUS, **this** FACT: Entities prior to the third trimester are
EQUAL, in **all** important ways,
to the entities that comprise Stage ONE of the 4-stage repro-
ductive process; the gamete stage. the entities of ALL FOUR
stages of the process are:

-- Unique
-- POTENTIAL people
-- Human (adj.; *not* "human being")
-- Alive (One cannot produce a live zygote -- Stage 2
entity -- by combining 2 gametes that are *dead*.)

And THUS, *this* HYPOCRISY: The Anti-Choicers
who hatefully seek
to FORCE tens of millions of women (over a span of years)
to gestate-to term against their will -- a very real form of RAPE --
*ignore* the more than QUADRILLION potential people that
are being electively aborted *daily*, worldwide... by men.
Entities that are the *equivalent*, in all relevant ways, to the
comparative handful that they inanely seek to "defend" at
the vile EXPENSE of the well-being and full range of future
opportunities of the women they seek to torture.

Anti-Choicers are loathsome bigots who are
totally without excuse.

(Oh... and by the way... about those "babies" you whined
about in your post. ALL babies have been BORN.

"Child; Children. Progeny; offspring of parentage. Unborn or recently born
human being."
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/abtrbng/terms.htm

So
if you're concerned about any of those being killed, take
it up with someone who knows about that sort of thing,
like Susan Smith.)

<remaining mindless swill flushed>


-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>

.
User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: comment 08 Mar 2005 07:55:00 PM
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:29:24 -0800,
"Chris" <reddd@juno.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:

Mike D. <mikdan7@comcast.net> wrote:

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the people getting
abortions are usually people who care not for innocent life...

Not to anyone having a modicum of *intelligence.*

FACT: Science has determined that -- due to inadequate
brain architecture/development, reproductive-
process entities before the third trimester have not
yet expereienced conscious awareness.

FACT: Per JAMA, only between 500 and 600 third-trimester
abortions are performed annually in the USA. (Out of
a total of at least 1,200,000 abortions.) So 99.9996%
of abortions involve entities that have NEVER exper-
ienced conscious awareness.

LIKELY FACT: Since NO woman is ever likely to wait until
the 3rd trimester to bave an *elective*
abortion, all 500 to 600 of the 3rd-trimester
ones almost *surely* are due to medical
exigencies.

FACT: Entities that have never experienced conscious aware-
ness possess the qualities of EITHER "innocence" OR
guilt to precisely the *same* degree as does the average
BRICK.

THUS, **this** FACT: Entities prior to the third trimester are
EQUAL, in **all** important ways,
to the entities that comprise Stage ONE of the 4-stage repro-
ductive process; the gamete stage. the entities of ALL FOUR
stages of the process are:

-- Unique
-- POTENTIAL people
-- Human (adj.; *not* "human being")
-- Alive (One cannot produce a live zygote -- Stage 2
entity -- by combining 2 gametes that are *dead*.)

And THUS, *this* HYPOCRISY: The Anti-Choicers
who hatefully seek
to FORCE tens of millions of women (over a span of years)
to gestate-to term against their will -- a very real form of RAPE --
*ignore* the more than QUADRILLION potential people that
are being electively aborted *daily*, worldwide... by men.
Entities that are the *equivalent*, in all relevant ways, to the
comparative handful that they inanely seek to "defend" at
the vile EXPENSE of the well-being and full range of future
opportunities of the women they seek to torture.

Anti-Choicers are loathsome bigots who are
totally without excuse.

(Oh... and by the way... about those "babies" you whined
about in your post. ALL babies have been BORN.)

"Child; Children. Progeny; offspring of parentage. Unborn
or recently born human being."
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/abtrbng/terms.htm

Since I'm a Christian, and thus believe the Bible to be the ultimate
source of authentification of intrinsic value, I'll be watching with
interest while you hunt for ANY passage therein that defends any
reproductive entities AS *people.* (ONE verse defends them... but
only as *property* -- in a passage that actually *condones* SLAVERY.)
(Ex. 21:20-25)

So if you're concerned about any of those being killed, take
it up with someone who knows about that sort of thing,
like Susan Smith.)

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>

.




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