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User: "S.P.G."
Date: 26 Jul 2007 08:43:26 AM
Object: Congrats, Gwen -- Your Citizen Son is Constitutionally Eligible to Run For the Presidency and Vice-Presidency...
....and there's not a damned thing that Mr. John Darin Wentzky of
Wentzy Circle, Anderson, S.C., can do about it.
(He's just afraid that your intelligent baby may hold the office
someday as a respectable leader and uphold the Constutition, granted
there's one left by the time 2036 rolls around. If Wentzky somehow
miraculously lives that long, he may see that the Constitution works
both ways.)
.

User: "John D. Wentzky"

Title: Re: Congrats, Gwen -- Your Citizen Son is Constitutionally Eligible to Run For the Presidency and Vice-Presidency... 26 Jul 2007 11:53:30 AM
"S.P.G. >" <<sp@somethingiseatingmymail.org> wrote in message
news:t19ha3lnf5gbpr0r8bvcd0hb47drgit30p@4ax.com...


...and there's not a damned thing that Mr. John Darin Wentzky of
Wentzy Circle, Anderson, S.C., can do about it.

(He's just afraid that your intelligent baby may hold the office
someday as a respectable leader and uphold the Constutition, granted
there's one left by the time 2036 rolls around. If Wentzky somehow
miraculously lives that long, he may see that the Constitution works
both ways.)

Amendment 14
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which
shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction
the equal protection of the laws.
What is the problem you have with the Constitutional requirements? Why is it
you can not see that the Constitution is written for the people OF THE USA?
How long will it take you to realize that the jurisdictional authority of
the constitution of the USA is not to be contested or abridged in the USA?
.
User: "Gwen"

Title: Re: Congrats, Gwen -- Your Citizen Son is Constitutionally Eligible to Run For the Presidency and Vice-Presidency... 26 Jul 2007 12:06:02 PM
On Jul 26, 11:53 am, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"S.P.G. >" <<s...@somethingiseatingmymail.org> wrote in message

news:t19ha3lnf5gbpr0r8bvcd0hb47drgit30p@4ax.com...



...and there's not a damned thing that Mr. John Darin Wentzky of
Wentzy Circle, Anderson, S.C., can do about it.


(He's just afraid that your intelligent baby may hold the office
someday as a respectable leader and uphold the Constutition, granted
there's one left by the time 2036 rolls around. If Wentzky somehow
miraculously lives that long, he may see that the Constitution works
both ways.)


Amendment 14

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which
shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction
the equal protection of the laws.

What is the problem you have with the Constitutional requirements? Why is it
you can not see that the Constitution is written for the people OF THE USA?
How long will it take you to realize that the jurisdictional authority of
the constitution of the USA is not to be contested or abridged in the USA?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen
<smirk>
.

User: "Tom S"

Title: Re: Congrats, Gwen -- Your Citizen Son is Constitutionally Eligible to Run For the Presidency and Vice-Presidency... 26 Jul 2007 05:12:31 PM
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:53:30 -0400, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"S.P.G. >" <<sp@somethingiseatingmymail.org> wrote in message
news:t19ha3lnf5gbpr0r8bvcd0hb47drgit30p@4ax.com...


...and there's not a damned thing that Mr. John Darin Wentzky of
Wentzy Circle, Anderson, S.C., can do about it.

(He's just afraid that your intelligent baby may hold the office
someday as a respectable leader and uphold the Constutition, granted
there's one left by the time 2036 rolls around. If Wentzky somehow
miraculously lives that long, he may see that the Constitution works
both ways.)


Amendment 14

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which
shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction
the equal protection of the laws.

What is the problem you have with the Constitutional requirements?

What is the problem you have with the US Code?? It is the body of
laws enacted by congress to codify the requirements.
READ and try to comprehend 8 USC 1401. For the ignorant, that is
Title 8 of the United States Code, Section 1401. It defines what the
constitution means by "Natural born Citizen".
Do I need to give you the links again, John Girl?? I have already
provided them to you twice in the past 24 hours.
Tom S.
.
User: "John D. Wentzky"

Title: Re: Congrats, Gwen -- Your Citizen Son is Constitutionally Eligible to Run For the Presidency and Vice-Presidency... 26 Jul 2007 08:57:05 PM
"Tom S" <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:jr6ia3pv8ilk5n1e1vam5p1is5ccdp8ief@4ax.com...

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:53:30 -0400, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"S.P.G. >" <<sp@somethingiseatingmymail.org> wrote in message
news:t19ha3lnf5gbpr0r8bvcd0hb47drgit30p@4ax.com...


...and there's not a damned thing that Mr. John Darin Wentzky of
Wentzy Circle, Anderson, S.C., can do about it.

(He's just afraid that your intelligent baby may hold the office
someday as a respectable leader and uphold the Constutition, granted
there's one left by the time 2036 rolls around. If Wentzky somehow
miraculously lives that long, he may see that the Constitution works
both ways.)


Amendment 14

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
subject
to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which
shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United
States;
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction
the equal protection of the laws.

What is the problem you have with the Constitutional requirements?


What is the problem you have with the US Code?? It is the body of
laws enacted by congress to codify the requirements.

READ and try to comprehend 8 USC 1401. For the ignorant, that is
Title 8 of the United States Code, Section 1401. It defines what the
constitution means by "Natural born Citizen".

It doesn't define what the Constitution defined already.
You *ARE* in error.
.
User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: Congrats, Gwen -- Your Citizen Son is Constitutionally Eligible to Run For the Presidency and Vice-Presidency... 26 Jul 2007 09:39:24 PM
On Jul 26, 9:57 pm, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

"Tom S" <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message

news:jr6ia3pv8ilk5n1e1vam5p1is5ccdp8ief@4ax.com...



On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:53:30 -0400, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:


"S.P.G. >" <<s...@somethingiseatingmymail.org> wrote in message
news:t19ha3lnf5gbpr0r8bvcd0hb47drgit30p@4ax.com...


...and there's not a damned thing that Mr. John Darin Wentzky of
Wentzy Circle, Anderson, S.C., can do about it.


(He's just afraid that your intelligent baby may hold the office
someday as a respectable leader and uphold the Constutition, granted
there's one left by the time 2036 rolls around. If Wentzky somehow
miraculously lives that long, he may see that the Constitution works
both ways.)


Amendment 14


Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
subject
to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which
shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United
States;
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction
the equal protection of the laws.


What is the problem you have with the Constitutional requirements?


What is the problem you have with the US Code?? It is the body of
laws enacted by congress to codify the requirements.


READ and try to comprehend 8 USC 1401. For the ignorant, that is
Title 8 of the United States Code, Section 1401. It defines what the
constitution means by "Natural born Citizen".


It doesn't define what the Constitution defined already.

Actually, it does include what the Constitution defines. And then it
expands on that and clarifies it. Thus it completely and
unambiguously defines what a "natural born citizen" is.

You *ARE* in error.

Where? His statements are completely correct, and reference the
applicable laws.
The Constitution is a STARTING point for our nations laws. It defines
the limits of the laws that the government can pass and enact, giving
either the applicable minimums or maximums, as well as defining what
it can and cannot do. In the case of the 14th Amendment, it is
defining what the MINIMUM requirements are for any law that defines a
"natural born citizen", not the maximum requirements.
You, however, have so little respect and understanding of the law that
you think that you can define what the law and the Constitution means,
even when your definitions and opinions contradict every applicable
law, court case, and case law that is currently on the books.
The weight of evidence is against you. You have nothing to support
your opinion, since your supposed support actually works against you.
Mark Sebree
.
User: "John D. Wentzky"

Title: Re: Congrats, Gwen -- Your Citizen Son is Constitutionally Eligible to Run For the Presidency and Vice-Presidency... 27 Jul 2007 12:10:30 AM
"Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net> wrote in message
news:1185503964.399845.84220@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 26, 9:57 pm, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

"Tom S" <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message

news:jr6ia3pv8ilk5n1e1vam5p1is5ccdp8ief@4ax.com...



On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:53:30 -0400, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:


"S.P.G. >" <<s...@somethingiseatingmymail.org> wrote in message
news:t19ha3lnf5gbpr0r8bvcd0hb47drgit30p@4ax.com...


...and there's not a damned thing that Mr. John Darin Wentzky of
Wentzy Circle, Anderson, S.C., can do about it.


(He's just afraid that your intelligent baby may hold the office
someday as a respectable leader and uphold the Constutition, granted
there's one left by the time 2036 rolls around. If Wentzky somehow
miraculously lives that long, he may see that the Constitution works
both ways.)


Amendment 14


Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
subject
to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of
the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which
shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United
States;
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction
the equal protection of the laws.


What is the problem you have with the Constitutional requirements?


What is the problem you have with the US Code?? It is the body of
laws enacted by congress to codify the requirements.


READ and try to comprehend 8 USC 1401. For the ignorant, that is
Title 8 of the United States Code, Section 1401. It defines what the
constitution means by "Natural born Citizen".


It doesn't define what the Constitution defined already.


Actually, it does include what the Constitution defines. And then it
expands on that and clarifies it. Thus it completely and
unambiguously defines what a "natural born citizen" is.

You *ARE* in error.


Where? His statements are completely correct, and reference the
applicable laws.

The Constitution is a STARTING point for our nations laws. It defines
the limits of the laws that the government can pass and enact, giving
either the applicable minimums or maximums, as well as defining what
it can and cannot do. In the case of the 14th Amendment, it is
defining what the MINIMUM requirements are for any law that defines a
"natural born citizen", not the maximum requirements.

The Constitution defines the requirements.
No more and no less is constitutional, you illiterate idiot.
.
User: "Mark Sebree"

Title: Re: Congrats, Gwen -- Your Citizen Son is Constitutionally Eligible to Run For the Presidency and Vice-Presidency... 27 Jul 2007 08:03:16 AM
On Jul 27, 1:10 am, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

"Mark Sebree" <seb...@infionline.net> wrote in message

news:1185503964.399845.84220@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...







On Jul 26, 9:57 pm, "John D. Wentzky" <johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu>
wrote:

"Tom S" <tscal...@cox.net> wrote in message


news:jr6ia3pv8ilk5n1e1vam5p1is5ccdp8ief@4ax.com...


On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:53:30 -0400, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:


"S.P.G. >" <<s...@somethingiseatingmymail.org> wrote in message
news:t19ha3lnf5gbpr0r8bvcd0hb47drgit30p@4ax.com...


...and there's not a damned thing that Mr. John Darin Wentzky of
Wentzy Circle, Anderson, S.C., can do about it.


(He's just afraid that your intelligent baby may hold the office
someday as a respectable leader and uphold the Constutition, granted
there's one left by the time 2036 rolls around. If Wentzky somehow
miraculously lives that long, he may see that the Constitution works
both ways.)


Amendment 14


Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
subject
to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of
the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which
shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United
States;
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction
the equal protection of the laws.


What is the problem you have with the Constitutional requirements?


What is the problem you have with the US Code?? It is the body of
laws enacted by congress to codify the requirements.


READ and try to comprehend 8 USC 1401. For the ignorant, that is
Title 8 of the United States Code, Section 1401. It defines what the
constitution means by "Natural born Citizen".


It doesn't define what the Constitution defined already.


Actually, it does include what the Constitution defines. And then it
expands on that and clarifies it. Thus it completely and
unambiguously defines what a "natural born citizen" is.


You *ARE* in error.


Where? His statements are completely correct, and reference the
applicable laws.


The Constitution is a STARTING point for our nations laws. It defines
the limits of the laws that the government can pass and enact, giving
either the applicable minimums or maximums, as well as defining what
it can and cannot do. In the case of the 14th Amendment, it is
defining what the MINIMUM requirements are for any law that defines a
"natural born citizen", not the maximum requirements.


The Constitution defines the requirements.

Close. For this case, the Constitution defines the MINIMUM
requirements.

No more and no less is constitutional, you illiterate idiot.

No less is Constitutional. However, there is nothing that prevents
the federal government from expanding the coverage of whom is a
natural born citizen.
And you are the only one that is showing himself to be an illiterate
idiot.
However, you could always try suing the federal government in civil
court charging that the US Code that we have quoted is
unconstitutional and overreaches the Constitution, as is your right.
This would be filed in your US District Court. Assuming, of course,
that you can find a lawyer to represent you. And that the judge does
not toss out the case and fine you for submitting a frivolous case.
Mark Sebree
.




User: "Pr0r3p"

Title: Re: Congrats, Gwen -- Your Citizen Son is Constitutionally Eligible to Run For the Presidency and Vice-Presidency... 26 Jul 2007 05:17:01 PM
On Jul 26, 6:12 pm, Tom S <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:53:30 -0400, "John D. Wentzky"





<johndwent...@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"S.P.G. >" <<s...@somethingiseatingmymail.org> wrote in message
news:t19ha3lnf5gbpr0r8bvcd0hb47drgit30p@4ax.com...


...and there's not a damned thing that Mr. John Darin Wentzky of
Wentzy Circle, Anderson, S.C., can do about it.


(He's just afraid that your intelligent baby may hold the office
someday as a respectable leader and uphold the Constutition, granted
there's one left by the time 2036 rolls around. If Wentzky somehow
miraculously lives that long, he may see that the Constitution works
both ways.)


Amendment 14


Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which
shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction
the equal protection of the laws.


What is the problem you have with the Constitutional requirements?


What is the problem you have with the US Code?? It is the body of
laws enacted by congress to codify the requirements.

READ and try to comprehend 8 USC 1401. For the ignorant, that is
Title 8 of the United States Code, Section 1401. It defines what the
constitution means by "Natural born Citizen".

Do I need to give you the links again, John Girl?? I have already
provided them to you twice in the past 24 hours.

<snip>
You're dealing with the King of Morons, you could have provided those
twice an hour for the last twenty-four hours and it wouldn't make a
bit of a difference. He believes what the voices in his head say,
reality be damned.
.


User: "S.P.G."

Title: Re: Congrats, Gwen -- Your Citizen Son is Constitutionally Eligible to Run For the Presidency and Vice-Presidency... 26 Jul 2007 12:19:44 PM
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:53:30 -0400, "John D. Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"S.P.G. >" <<sp@somethingiseatingmymail.org> wrote in message
news:t19ha3lnf5gbpr0r8bvcd0hb47drgit30p@4ax.com...


...and there's not a damned thing that Mr. John Darin Wentzky of
Wentzy Circle, Anderson, S.C., can do about it.

(He's just afraid that your intelligent baby may hold the office
someday as a respectable leader and uphold the Constutition, granted
there's one left by the time 2036 rolls around. If Wentzky somehow
miraculously lives that long, he may see that the Constitution works
both ways.)


Amendment 14

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which
shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction
the equal protection of the laws.

What is the problem you have with the Constitutional requirements? Why is it
you can not see that the Constitution is written for the people OF THE USA?
How long will it take you to realize that the jurisdictional authority of
the constitution of the USA is not to be contested or abridged in the USA?

You're forgetting some important facts wic correlate with tat.
Why do you deny the constitutionally-granted liberty and protections
to the natural-born citizens and expect others to respect yours?
.



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