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User: "Osprey"
Date: 28 Aug 2004 07:34:44 PM
Object: Controversy over John Kerry's medal
Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he received a
silver star with the "V"
Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a mistake.
Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.
But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even though he
has LIED
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149
....
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star -- its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say, and at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver Stars are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."
--
.

User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 28 Aug 2004 07:51:37 PM
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he received a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even though he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star -- its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say, and at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver Stars are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."

Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your claim
that he lied on that form is false.
Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be trivial.
---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."
President George W. Bush.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 28 Aug 2004 08:13:42 PM
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he received a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star -- its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say, and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be trivial.

You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.
I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial by you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his resignation.
Oh the double standards you liberals possess


---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."

President George W. Bush.

.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 28 Aug 2004 08:15:08 PM
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:13:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:53a2j0l8bh5feairuujnm29l7dr4dm9c4p@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he received a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star -- its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say, and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be trivial.



You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.

No, I'm simply pointing out that no 'excuse' is required, since Kerry
didn't write that DD214.

I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial by you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his resignation.

Oh the double standards you liberals possess

Until you can show us how Kerry lied on a form he didn't fill out you
have no reason to call him a liar, and in fact are simply telling a
lie yourself by doing so.
---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."
President George W. Bush.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 28 Aug 2004 08:35:42 PM
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:13:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he received
a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even
though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star --
its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say, and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and
Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be trivial.



You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.


No, I'm simply pointing out that no 'excuse' is required, since Kerry
didn't write that DD214.

I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial by
you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his resignation.

Oh the double standards you liberals possess


Until you can show us how Kerry lied on a form he didn't fill out you
have no reason to call him a liar, and in fact are simply telling a
lie yourself by doing so.

He never received a "V"
He lied. Now you have been shown.
He is a liar
You can kiss Kerry's ***** all you want, but don't lecture Republicans if they
support Bush, who you call a liar, when you support Kerry who lies about his
service.
.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 28 Aug 2004 08:39:12 PM
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:35:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:3eb2j0dn9fn2hoacieloe9f9unu2lmte3d@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:13:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:53a2j0l8bh5feairuujnm29l7dr4dm9c4p@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he received
a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even
though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star --
its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say, and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and
Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be trivial.



You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.


No, I'm simply pointing out that no 'excuse' is required, since Kerry
didn't write that DD214.

I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial by
you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his resignation.

Oh the double standards you liberals possess


Until you can show us how Kerry lied on a form he didn't fill out you
have no reason to call him a liar, and in fact are simply telling a
lie yourself by doing so.


He never received a "V"

He lied. Now you have been shown.

No, Bobby. Unless you can show that *he* wrote that DD214 then there
is no lie on his part.


He is a liar

You can kiss Kerry's ***** all you want, but don't lecture Republicans if they
support Bush, who you call a liar, when you support Kerry who lies about his
service.

He never lied, since he didn't write that form. Unless you can show
that he did you are lying.
---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."
President George W. Bush.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 28 Aug 2004 09:00:24 PM
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:35:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:13:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he
received
a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a
mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even
though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star --
its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say,
and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver
Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and
Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be trivial.



You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.


No, I'm simply pointing out that no 'excuse' is required, since Kerry
didn't write that DD214.

I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial by
you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his resignation.

Oh the double standards you liberals possess


Until you can show us how Kerry lied on a form he didn't fill out you
have no reason to call him a liar, and in fact are simply telling a
lie yourself by doing so.


He never received a "V"

He lied. Now you have been shown.


No, Bobby. Unless you can show that *he* wrote that DD214 then there
is no lie on his part.

It is on his official website, he is responsible.
Kerry lied.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf



He is a liar

You can kiss Kerry's ***** all you want, but don't lecture Republicans if
they
support Bush, who you call a liar, when you support Kerry who lies about
his
service.


He never lied, since he didn't write that form.

No one writes their own DD214.
However, this fake DD214 is on his official website, Kerry is responsible.
It is STILL on there, even though it is recognized as a fake.
Kerry lied, as well as his supporters are lying.
Unless you can show

that he did you are lying.

It was shown
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf
.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 28 Aug 2004 09:11:29 PM
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:00:24 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:qsc2j09pgq4vu8e6ndjmkge440mnd905rb@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:35:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:3eb2j0dn9fn2hoacieloe9f9unu2lmte3d@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:13:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:53a2j0l8bh5feairuujnm29l7dr4dm9c4p@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he
received
a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a
mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even
though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star --
its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say,
and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver
Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and
Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be trivial.



You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.


No, I'm simply pointing out that no 'excuse' is required, since Kerry
didn't write that DD214.

I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial by
you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his resignation.

Oh the double standards you liberals possess


Until you can show us how Kerry lied on a form he didn't fill out you
have no reason to call him a liar, and in fact are simply telling a
lie yourself by doing so.


He never received a "V"

He lied. Now you have been shown.


No, Bobby. Unless you can show that *he* wrote that DD214 then there
is no lie on his part.


It is on his official website, he is responsible.
Kerry lied.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf





He is a liar

You can kiss Kerry's ***** all you want, but don't lecture Republicans if
they
support Bush, who you call a liar, when you support Kerry who lies about
his
service.


He never lied, since he didn't write that form.


No one writes their own DD214.

However, this fake DD214 is on his official website, Kerry is responsible.
It is STILL on there, even though it is recognized as a fake.

Kerry lied, as well as his supporters are lying.


Unless you can show

that he did you are lying.


It was shown

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf

Remember how someone was commenting on how easily you were led?
Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.
Thanks for playing. What was that you were saying about double
standards?
---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."
President George W. Bush.
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 29 Aug 2004 12:56:04 AM
Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:<ame2j0hkmksmr1aelrvllr4heugnkoarnh@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:00:24 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:qsc2j09pgq4vu8e6ndjmkge440mnd905rb@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:35:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:3eb2j0dn9fn2hoacieloe9f9unu2lmte3d@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:13:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:53a2j0l8bh5feairuujnm29l7dr4dm9c4p@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he
received
a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a
mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even
though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star --
its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say,
and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver
Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and
Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be trivial.



You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.


No, I'm simply pointing out that no 'excuse' is required, since Kerry
didn't write that DD214.

I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial by
you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his resignation.

Oh the double standards you liberals possess


Until you can show us how Kerry lied on a form he didn't fill out you
have no reason to call him a liar, and in fact are simply telling a
lie yourself by doing so.


He never received a "V"

He lied. Now you have been shown.


No, Bobby. Unless you can show that *he* wrote that DD214 then there
is no lie on his part.


It is on his official website, he is responsible.
Kerry lied.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf





He is a liar

You can kiss Kerry's ***** all you want, but don't lecture Republicans if
they
support Bush, who you call a liar, when you support Kerry who lies about
his
service.


He never lied, since he didn't write that form.


No one writes their own DD214.

However, this fake DD214 is on his official website, Kerry is responsible.
It is STILL on there, even though it is recognized as a fake.

Kerry lied, as well as his supporters are lying.


Unless you can show

that he did you are lying.


It was shown

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf


Remember how someone was commenting on how easily you were led?

Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.

There is one thing when a person believes something to be fact, as
Bush believed to be fact, as well as other Democrats and Republican
leaders.
Bush since then admitted mistakes were made.
Then there is this situation with Kerry. A false DD214 on his
official website, and he STILL has it on there. He is giving
Americans a false impression on his military service, allowing
something to show that he was awarded something he was never awarded.
Bush admitted mistakes.
Kerry is still allowing his to continue.
You are just mad because you got spanked and your boy Kerry is lying
and continueing to lie by keeping it on his site and not apologizing
for it.
You can't get the "V" with a silver star. Only with the bronze.
And the DD214 is not an official DD214, it is a phoney. And he is
allowing it to stay on his official website.
And being the typical liberal that you are, you are not willing to
admit to the dishonest tactic that Kerry is using.
As I said, Bush came forth and admitted mistakes were made. You just
bust your ***** trying to find fault with Bush and now you are upset
because your boy Kerry has mud on his face and isn't the perfect hero
you want him to be.
.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 29 Aug 2004 02:09:46 AM
On 28 Aug 2004 22:56:04 -0700,
(osprey) wrote:

Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:<ame2j0hkmksmr1aelrvllr4heugnkoarnh@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:00:24 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
wrote:


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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:35:42 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:13:42 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he
received
a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a
mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even
though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star --
its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say,
and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver
Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and
Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be trivial.



You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.


No, I'm simply pointing out that no 'excuse' is required, since Kerry
didn't write that DD214.

I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial by
you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his resignation.

Oh the double standards you liberals possess


Until you can show us how Kerry lied on a form he didn't fill out you
have no reason to call him a liar, and in fact are simply telling a
lie yourself by doing so.


He never received a "V"

He lied. Now you have been shown.


No, Bobby. Unless you can show that *he* wrote that DD214 then there
is no lie on his part.


It is on his official website, he is responsible.
Kerry lied.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf





He is a liar

You can kiss Kerry's ***** all you want, but don't lecture Republicans if
they
support Bush, who you call a liar, when you support Kerry who lies about
his
service.


He never lied, since he didn't write that form.


No one writes their own DD214.

However, this fake DD214 is on his official website, Kerry is responsible.
It is STILL on there, even though it is recognized as a fake.

Kerry lied, as well as his supporters are lying.


Unless you can show

that he did you are lying.


It was shown

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf


Remember how someone was commenting on how easily you were led?

Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.



There is one thing when a person believes something to be fact, as
Bush believed to be fact, as well as other Democrats and Republican
leaders.

Bush since then admitted mistakes were made.

Then there is this situation with Kerry. A false DD214 on his
official website, and he STILL has it on there. He is giving
Americans a false impression on his military service, allowing
something to show that he was awarded something he was never awarded.

Ah. So, simply showing the *government issued* form is insufficient?


Bush admitted mistakes.

Kerry is still allowing his to continue.

No, because he made no mistake on that form.


You are just mad because you got spanked and your boy Kerry is lying
and continueing to lie by keeping it on his site and not apologizing
for it.

Why should he apologize for someone else's mistake when you don't
demand that of Bush?


You can't get the "V" with a silver star. Only with the bronze.

That's nice.


And the DD214 is not an official DD214, it is a phoney. And he is
allowing it to stay on his official website.

Prove that the DD214 is a phony.


And being the typical liberal that you are, you are not willing to
admit to the dishonest tactic that Kerry is using.
As I said, Bush came forth and admitted mistakes were made. You just
bust your ***** trying to find fault with Bush and now you are upset
because your boy Kerry has mud on his face and isn't the perfect hero
you want him to be.

So, can't defend Bush here, eh?
---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."
President George W. Bush.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 29 Aug 2004 01:20:12 PM
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On 28 Aug 2004 22:56:04 -0700,

(osprey) wrote:

Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:00:24 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:35:42 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:13:42 -0400, "Osprey"
<

>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey"
<

>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he
received
a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a
mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him,
even
though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to
the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver
Star --
its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they
say,
and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver
Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V,"
which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and
Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your
claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be
trivial.



You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.


No, I'm simply pointing out that no 'excuse' is required, since
Kerry
didn't write that DD214.

I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial
by
you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his
resignation.

Oh the double standards you liberals possess


Until you can show us how Kerry lied on a form he didn't fill out
you
have no reason to call him a liar, and in fact are simply telling a
lie yourself by doing so.


He never received a "V"

He lied. Now you have been shown.


No, Bobby. Unless you can show that *he* wrote that DD214 then there
is no lie on his part.


It is on his official website, he is responsible.
Kerry lied.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf





He is a liar

You can kiss Kerry's ***** all you want, but don't lecture Republicans
if
they
support Bush, who you call a liar, when you support Kerry who lies
about
his
service.


He never lied, since he didn't write that form.


No one writes their own DD214.

However, this fake DD214 is on his official website, Kerry is
responsible.
It is STILL on there, even though it is recognized as a fake.

Kerry lied, as well as his supporters are lying.


Unless you can show

that he did you are lying.


It was shown

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf


Remember how someone was commenting on how easily you were led?

Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.



There is one thing when a person believes something to be fact, as
Bush believed to be fact, as well as other Democrats and Republican
leaders.

Bush since then admitted mistakes were made.

Then there is this situation with Kerry. A false DD214 on his
official website, and he STILL has it on there. He is giving
Americans a false impression on his military service, allowing
something to show that he was awarded something he was never awarded.


Ah. So, simply showing the *government issued* form is insufficient?


Bush admitted mistakes.

Kerry is still allowing his to continue.


No, because he made no mistake on that form.

It is a false document, he is allowing it to stay on his website, it is a
"LIE". Since it is an official site, and he is doing nothing, he is a liar.
And you are just as guilty since you are supporting him for this and making
up excuses.



You are just mad because you got spanked and your boy Kerry is lying
and continueing to lie by keeping it on his site and not apologizing
for it.


Why should he apologize for someone else's mistake when you don't
demand that of Bush?

It isn't my fault when you ignored the post I made that did demand that of
Bush.



You can't get the "V" with a silver star. Only with the bronze.


That's nice.


And the DD214 is not an official DD214, it is a phoney. And he is
allowing it to stay on his official website.


Prove that the DD214 is a phony.

I have, and so have the men who discovered it.



And being the typical liberal that you are, you are not willing to
admit to the dishonest tactic that Kerry is using.
As I said, Bush came forth and admitted mistakes were made. You just
bust your ***** trying to find fault with Bush and now you are upset
because your boy Kerry has mud on his face and isn't the perfect hero
you want him to be.


So, can't defend Bush here, eh?

What is to defend?
You are trying to defend Kerry for a lie.
.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 29 Aug 2004 02:06:12 PM
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:20:12 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


[snip]


http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf


Remember how someone was commenting on how easily you were led?

Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.



There is one thing when a person believes something to be fact, as
Bush believed to be fact, as well as other Democrats and Republican
leaders.

Bush since then admitted mistakes were made.

We all know Bush didn't consider all his statements to be fact, since
we also know that that CIA told him how shaky much of the intelligence
was (of course, he ignored that warning - a warning not given to those
in the house or senate).


Then there is this situation with Kerry. A false DD214 on his
official website, and he STILL has it on there. He is giving
Americans a false impression on his military service, allowing
something to show that he was awarded something he was never awarded.


Ah. So, simply showing the *government issued* form is insufficient?

Well?



Bush admitted mistakes.

Kerry is still allowing his to continue.


No, because he made no mistake on that form.


It is a false document, he is allowing it to stay on his website, it is a
"LIE". Since it is an official site, and he is doing nothing, he is a liar.
And you are just as guilty since you are supporting him for this and making
up excuses.

No, I'm not supporting him. I'm pointing out that HE didn't lie on
that form as you claim since he didn't WRITE that form. I'm also
pointing out that you now must hold Bush responsible for the false
information he presented.






You are just mad because you got spanked and your boy Kerry is lying
and continueing to lie by keeping it on his site and not apologizing
for it.


Why should he apologize for someone else's mistake when you don't
demand that of Bush?


It isn't my fault when you ignored the post I made that did demand that of
Bush.

So, show it.





You can't get the "V" with a silver star. Only with the bronze.


That's nice.


And the DD214 is not an official DD214, it is a phoney. And he is
allowing it to stay on his official website.


Prove that the DD214 is a phony.


I have, and so have the men who discovered it.

No, you've proven there might be a mistake on it. Now, prove it's a
phony.





And being the typical liberal that you are, you are not willing to
admit to the dishonest tactic that Kerry is using.
As I said, Bush came forth and admitted mistakes were made. You just
bust your ***** trying to find fault with Bush and now you are upset
because your boy Kerry has mud on his face and isn't the perfect hero
you want him to be.


So, can't defend Bush here, eh?


What is to defend?
You are trying to defend Kerry for a lie.

No, I'm merely pointing out the inherent unsupportability of your
position. I couldn't care less about Bush or Kerry.
---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."
President George W. Bush.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 30 Aug 2004 07:46:03 AM
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:6r94j0hq4nb5ubfksr4qls29vsvfkhdms2@4ax.com...

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:20:12 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:



[snip]


http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf


Remember how someone was commenting on how easily you were led?

Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.



There is one thing when a person believes something to be fact, as
Bush believed to be fact, as well as other Democrats and Republican
leaders.

Bush since then admitted mistakes were made.


We all know Bush didn't consider all his statements to be fact, since
we also know that that CIA told him how shaky much of the intelligence
was (of course, he ignored that warning - a warning not given to those
in the house or senate).


Then there is this situation with Kerry. A false DD214 on his
official website, and he STILL has it on there. He is giving
Americans a false impression on his military service, allowing
something to show that he was awarded something he was never awarded.


Ah. So, simply showing the *government issued* form is insufficient?


Well?



Bush admitted mistakes.

Kerry is still allowing his to continue.


No, because he made no mistake on that form.


It is a false document, he is allowing it to stay on his website, it is a
"LIE". Since it is an official site, and he is doing nothing, he is a
liar.
And you are just as guilty since you are supporting him for this and
making
up excuses.


No, I'm not supporting him. I'm pointing out that HE didn't lie on
that form as you claim since he didn't WRITE that form.

HE lied, when he chose to keep it on his site after the swift boat veterans
nailed it.
I'm also

pointing out that you now must hold Bush responsible for the false
information he presented.

You need to stop whining and trying to control others.







You are just mad because you got spanked and your boy Kerry is lying
and continueing to lie by keeping it on his site and not apologizing
for it.


Why should he apologize for someone else's mistake when you don't
demand that of Bush?


It isn't my fault when you ignored the post I made that did demand that of
Bush.


So, show it.

All you have to do is do some google researching. You certainly don't mind
doing google research when you try to find things against users in a
newsgroup...so off you go. Do some research.
Hint: I held Bush responsible for not getting the troops in Iraq supplies
they needed and support they needed.






You can't get the "V" with a silver star. Only with the bronze.


That's nice.


And the DD214 is not an official DD214, it is a phoney. And he is
allowing it to stay on his official website.


Prove that the DD214 is a phony.


I have, and so have the men who discovered it.


No, you've proven there might be a mistake on it. Now, prove it's a
phony.

A mistake? A 30 plus year mistake...oh how convienant.
It is phony...
The major explains it very well and in detail.






And being the typical liberal that you are, you are not willing to
admit to the dishonest tactic that Kerry is using.
As I said, Bush came forth and admitted mistakes were made. You just
bust your ***** trying to find fault with Bush and now you are upset
because your boy Kerry has mud on his face and isn't the perfect hero
you want him to be.


So, can't defend Bush here, eh?


What is to defend?
You are trying to defend Kerry for a lie.


No,

Yes
I'm merely pointing out the inherent unsupportability of your

position. I couldn't care less about Bush or Kerry.

*****
.
User: "Pr0r3p"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 30 Aug 2004 02:45:25 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<doGdnZbvKL7Cva7cRVn-uw@comcast.com>...

"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:20:12 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:



[snip]


http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf


Remember how someone was commenting on how easily you were led?

Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.



There is one thing when a person believes something to be fact, as
Bush believed to be fact, as well as other Democrats and Republican
leaders.

Bush since then admitted mistakes were made.


We all know Bush didn't consider all his statements to be fact, since
we also know that that CIA told him how shaky much of the intelligence
was (of course, he ignored that warning - a warning not given to those
in the house or senate).


Then there is this situation with Kerry. A false DD214 on his
official website, and he STILL has it on there. He is giving
Americans a false impression on his military service, allowing
something to show that he was awarded something he was never awarded.


Ah. So, simply showing the *government issued* form is insufficient?


Well?



Bush admitted mistakes.

Kerry is still allowing his to continue.


No, because he made no mistake on that form.


It is a false document, he is allowing it to stay on his website, it is a
"LIE". Since it is an official site, and he is doing nothing, he is a
liar.
And you are just as guilty since you are supporting him for this and
making
up excuses.


No, I'm not supporting him. I'm pointing out that HE didn't lie on
that form as you claim since he didn't WRITE that form.


HE lied, when he chose to keep it on his site after the swift boat veterans
nailed it.

I'm also

pointing out that you now must hold Bush responsible for the false
information he presented.


You need to stop whining and trying to control others.

Heh, just as I suspected. Asspry won't hold Bush to the very
standards he holds Kerry. This is just more hypocrisy from Asspry.








You are just mad because you got spanked and your boy Kerry is lying
and continueing to lie by keeping it on his site and not apologizing
for it.


Why should he apologize for someone else's mistake when you don't
demand that of Bush?


It isn't my fault when you ignored the post I made that did demand that of
Bush.


So, show it.


All you have to do is do some google researching. You certainly don't mind
doing google research when you try to find things against users in a
newsgroup...so off you go. Do some research.

Translation: Asspry doesn't have evidence to support his claim.
Meanwhile, he runs around in this newsgroup demanding evidence from
everyone else.
This is just more proof that Asspry is a lying hypocrite.


Hint: I held Bush responsible for not getting the troops in Iraq supplies
they needed and support they needed.

Heh, but Asspry won't hold Bush responsible for lying to the American
people. He's only pissed about the troops because he claims he's a
veteran, and this shouldn't sit well with any veteran.








You can't get the "V" with a silver star. Only with the bronze.


That's nice.


And the DD214 is not an official DD214, it is a phoney. And he is
allowing it to stay on his official website.


Prove that the DD214 is a phony.


I have, and so have the men who discovered it.


No, you've proven there might be a mistake on it. Now, prove it's a
phony.


A mistake? A 30 plus year mistake...oh how convienant.

It is phony...

The major explains it very well and in detail.

Lack of evidence noted...








And being the typical liberal that you are, you are not willing to
admit to the dishonest tactic that Kerry is using.
As I said, Bush came forth and admitted mistakes were made. You just
bust your ***** trying to find fault with Bush and now you are upset
because your boy Kerry has mud on his face and isn't the perfect hero
you want him to be.


So, can't defend Bush here, eh?


What is to defend?
You are trying to defend Kerry for a lie.


No,


Yes

I'm merely pointing out the inherent unsupportability of your

position. I couldn't care less about Bush or Kerry.


*****

Asspry just can't help but view everything and everyone from his
perspective. Just because Asspry puts his hero Bush on a pedestool
and blindly supports him, he feels that everyone else must do the very
same with their candidate of choice.
.

User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 30 Aug 2004 10:01:29 AM
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:46:03 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:6r94j0hq4nb5ubfksr4qls29vsvfkhdms2@4ax.com...

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:20:12 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:



[snip]


http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf


Remember how someone was commenting on how easily you were led?

Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.



There is one thing when a person believes something to be fact, as
Bush believed to be fact, as well as other Democrats and Republican
leaders.

Bush since then admitted mistakes were made.


We all know Bush didn't consider all his statements to be fact, since
we also know that that CIA told him how shaky much of the intelligence
was (of course, he ignored that warning - a warning not given to those
in the house or senate).

No response...Bobyb's way of conceding the point (or, more correctly,
ignoring it and hoping it goes away).



Then there is this situation with Kerry. A false DD214 on his
official website, and he STILL has it on there. He is giving
Americans a false impression on his military service, allowing
something to show that he was awarded something he was never awarded.


Ah. So, simply showing the *government issued* form is insufficient?


Well?



Bush admitted mistakes.

Kerry is still allowing his to continue.


No, because he made no mistake on that form.


It is a false document, he is allowing it to stay on his website, it is a
"LIE". Since it is an official site, and he is doing nothing, he is a
liar.
And you are just as guilty since you are supporting him for this and
making
up excuses.


No, I'm not supporting him. I'm pointing out that HE didn't lie on
that form as you claim since he didn't WRITE that form.


HE lied, when he chose to keep it on his site after the swift boat veterans
nailed it.

No, it's still his officially-issued DD214. Now everyone knows about
the trivial error on it.


I'm also

pointing out that you now must hold Bush responsible for the false
information he presented.


You need to stop whining and trying to control others.

So, you will be using that special double standard to judge Kerry, but
not Bush. What a surprise.
Now, of course, you don't get to whine about someone else's perceived
'double standard'.








You are just mad because you got spanked and your boy Kerry is lying
and continueing to lie by keeping it on his site and not apologizing
for it.


Why should he apologize for someone else's mistake when you don't
demand that of Bush?


It isn't my fault when you ignored the post I made that did demand that of
Bush.


So, show it.


All you have to do is do some google researching. You certainly don't mind
doing google research when you try to find things against users in a
newsgroup...so off you go. Do some research.

Show it, Bobby. Not my job to prove your fantasies.


Hint: I held Bush responsible for not getting the troops in Iraq supplies
they needed and support they needed.

Prove it.








You can't get the "V" with a silver star. Only with the bronze.


That's nice.


And the DD214 is not an official DD214, it is a phoney. And he is
allowing it to stay on his official website.


Prove that the DD214 is a phony.


I have, and so have the men who discovered it.


No, you've proven there might be a mistake on it. Now, prove it's a
phony.


A mistake? A 30 plus year mistake...oh how convienant.

It is phony...

Then show how Kerry (or someone else) forged that form.


The major explains it very well and in detail.

Bobby, for that to be phony Kerry would have to have forged it. Since
you've already admitted he didn't write it we can conclude that you
don't know what 'phony' actually means or you are deliberately
slandering Kerry.
Either would be a safe bet.








And being the typical liberal that you are, you are not willing to
admit to the dishonest tactic that Kerry is using.
As I said, Bush came forth and admitted mistakes were made. You just
bust your ***** trying to find fault with Bush and now you are upset
because your boy Kerry has mud on his face and isn't the perfect hero
you want him to be.


So, can't defend Bush here, eh?


What is to defend?
You are trying to defend Kerry for a lie.


No,


Yes

Nope.


I'm merely pointing out the inherent unsupportability of your

position. I couldn't care less about Bush or Kerry.


*****

Uh huh. Just drives you crazy that there's other countries out there.
---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."
President George W. Bush.
.



User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 29 Aug 2004 01:47:29 PM
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message

noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:

Bush admitted mistakes.

Kerry is still allowing his to continue.


No, because he made no mistake on that form.


It is a false document, he is allowing it to stay on his website, it is a

You're a habitual liar and nothing you claim can be trusted.
Your opinion about whether it is a "false" document is a lie.

Since it is an official site,

You're a stupid *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 29 Aug 2004 05:56:02 PM
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<cgt8c1$ag6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message

noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:


Bush admitted mistakes.

Kerry is still allowing his to continue.


No, because he made no mistake on that form.


It is a false document, he is allowing it to stay on his website, it is a


You're a habitual liar and nothing you claim can be trusted.
Your opinion about whether it is a "false" document is a lie.

You can ask the Major who explained it and exposed it.


Since it is an official site,


You're a stupid *****.

You have no rebuttal.
.





User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 29 Aug 2004 12:50:05 AM
Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:<ame2j0hkmksmr1aelrvllr4heugnkoarnh@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:00:24 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:35:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:13:42 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he
received
a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a
mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even
though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star --
its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say,
and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver
Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and
Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be trivial.



You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.


No, I'm simply pointing out that no 'excuse' is required, since Kerry
didn't write that DD214.

I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial by
you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his resignation.

Oh the double standards you liberals possess


Until you can show us how Kerry lied on a form he didn't fill out you
have no reason to call him a liar, and in fact are simply telling a
lie yourself by doing so.


He never received a "V"

He lied. Now you have been shown.


No, Bobby. Unless you can show that *he* wrote that DD214 then there
is no lie on his part.


It is on his official website, he is responsible.
Kerry lied.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf





He is a liar

You can kiss Kerry's ***** all you want, but don't lecture Republicans if
they
support Bush, who you call a liar, when you support Kerry who lies about
his
service.


He never lied, since he didn't write that form.


No one writes their own DD214.

However, this fake DD214 is on his official website, Kerry is responsible.
It is STILL on there, even though it is recognized as a fake.

Kerry lied, as well as his supporters are lying.


Unless you can show

that he did you are lying.


It was shown

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf


Remember how someone was commenting on how easily you were led?

Oh puh-lease...you are just unhappy because your boy Kerry is busted
in a lie and now you want to pout.
Toooooo bad!!!


Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.

Thanks for playing. What was that you were saying about double
standards?

That you have double standards? Yes, you do.


---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."

President George W. Bush.

.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 29 Aug 2004 02:05:16 AM
On 28 Aug 2004 22:50:05 -0700,
(osprey) wrote:

Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:<ame2j0hkmksmr1aelrvllr4heugnkoarnh@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:00:24 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:qsc2j09pgq4vu8e6ndjmkge440mnd905rb@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:35:42 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:3eb2j0dn9fn2hoacieloe9f9unu2lmte3d@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:13:42 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:53a2j0l8bh5feairuujnm29l7dr4dm9c4p@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he
received
a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a
mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him, even
though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver Star --
its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they say,
and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver
Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V," which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and
Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be trivial.



You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.


No, I'm simply pointing out that no 'excuse' is required, since Kerry
didn't write that DD214.

I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial by
you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his resignation.

Oh the double standards you liberals possess


Until you can show us how Kerry lied on a form he didn't fill out you
have no reason to call him a liar, and in fact are simply telling a
lie yourself by doing so.


He never received a "V"

He lied. Now you have been shown.


No, Bobby. Unless you can show that *he* wrote that DD214 then there
is no lie on his part.


It is on his official website, he is responsible.
Kerry lied.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf





He is a liar

You can kiss Kerry's ***** all you want, but don't lecture Republicans if
they
support Bush, who you call a liar, when you support Kerry who lies about
his
service.


He never lied, since he didn't write that form.


No one writes their own DD214.

However, this fake DD214 is on his official website, Kerry is responsible.
It is STILL on there, even though it is recognized as a fake.

Kerry lied, as well as his supporters are lying.


Unless you can show

that he did you are lying.


It was shown

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf


Remember how someone was commenting on how easily you were led?


Oh puh-lease...you are just unhappy because your boy Kerry is busted
in a lie and now you want to pout.

Toooooo bad!!!



Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.

Thanks for playing. What was that you were saying about double
standards?


That you have double standards? Yes, you do.

Uh huh. You have yet to explain how you decide not to hold Bush
responsible for others' 'mistakes' when you want to make Kerry
responsible for the same.
---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."
President George W. Bush.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 29 Aug 2004 01:18:20 PM
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:pvv2j0ps7c0lgc5gscnfdu2ffj6npdlrgg@4ax.com...

On 28 Aug 2004 22:50:05 -0700,

(osprey) wrote:

Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:<ame2j0hkmksmr1aelrvllr4heugnkoarnh@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:00:24 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:qsc2j09pgq4vu8e6ndjmkge440mnd905rb@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:35:42 -0400, "Osprey" <

>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:3eb2j0dn9fn2hoacieloe9f9unu2lmte3d@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:13:42 -0400, "Osprey"
<

>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:53a2j0l8bh5feairuujnm29l7dr4dm9c4p@4ax.com...

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:34:44 -0400, "Osprey"
<

>
wrote:

Looks like Kerry was caught lying once again about his claim he
received
a
silver star with the "V"

Now they are trying to do some damage control and say it was a
mistake.

Now go figure if this was Bush...liberals would be SCREAMING MAD.

But with Kerry, they want to cuddle him and help protect him,
even
though
he
has LIED

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40149

...
The authors, who want Kerry to release all documents related to
the
citations, have noted another peculiarity about Kerry's Silver
Star --
its
unauthorized "V" for valor which "makes it facially false, they
say,
and
at
variance with official government records." That's because Silver
Stars
are
given for gallantry and never are accompanied with a combat "V,"
which
would
be redundant. But Kerry's DD 214, or "Report of Transfer and
Separation,"
displayed on his website, shows the "V."


Until you can show that the DD214 was written by Kerry, your
claim
that he lied on that form is false.

Of course, this has already been brought out and shown to be
trivial.



You are making excuses to help cover Kerry.


No, I'm simply pointing out that no 'excuse' is required, since
Kerry
didn't write that DD214.

I love it how when a liberal democrat lies it is considered trivial
by
you.
But if Kerry was a Republican, you would be calling for his
resignation.

Oh the double standards you liberals possess


Until you can show us how Kerry lied on a form he didn't fill out
you
have no reason to call him a liar, and in fact are simply telling a
lie yourself by doing so.


He never received a "V"

He lied. Now you have been shown.


No, Bobby. Unless you can show that *he* wrote that DD214 then there
is no lie on his part.


It is on his official website, he is responsible.
Kerry lied.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf





He is a liar

You can kiss Kerry's ***** all you want, but don't lecture Republicans
if
they
support Bush, who you call a liar, when you support Kerry who lies
about
his
service.


He never lied, since he didn't write that form.


No one writes their own DD214.

However, this fake DD214 is on his official website, Kerry is
responsible.
It is STILL on there, even though it is recognized as a fake.

Kerry lied, as well as his supporters are lying.


Unless you can show

that he did you are lying.


It was shown

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf


Remember how someone was commenting on how easily you were led?


Oh puh-lease...you are just unhappy because your boy Kerry is busted
in a lie and now you want to pout.

Toooooo bad!!!



Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.

Thanks for playing. What was that you were saying about double
standards?


That you have double standards? Yes, you do.


Uh huh.

Yep.
You have yet to explain how you decide not to hold Bush

responsible for others' 'mistakes' when you want to make Kerry
responsible for the same.

I do hold him responsible, fact is many times in this newsgroup I have
bashed him for things I don't think he done that was right. You PURPOSELY
ignore that because then you wouldn't have something to ***** about. Face
it, all you want to do is just ***** about people. Most likely because your
life isn't worth *****.


---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."

President George W. Bush.

.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 29 Aug 2004 01:58:37 PM
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:18:20 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


[snip]


Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.

Thanks for playing. What was that you were saying about double
standards?


That you have double standards? Yes, you do.


Uh huh.


Yep.

You have yet to explain how you decide not to hold Bush

responsible for others' 'mistakes' when you want to make Kerry
responsible for the same.


I do hold him responsible, fact is many times in this newsgroup I have
bashed him for things I don't think he done that was right.

That has nothing to do with holding Bush responsible. You don't demand
that Bush be held responsible for an invasion based on false premises,
just for one example, and yet you must hold Bush responsible for that
false information written by others if you want to hold Kerry
responsible for the content of a form written by some else.

You PURPOSELY
ignore that because then you wouldn't have something to ***** about. Face
it, all you want to do is just ***** about people. Most likely because your
life isn't worth *****.

Well, Bobby can't answer the question.
---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."
President George W. Bush.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 30 Aug 2004 07:43:16 AM
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:fj94j0dimjvfs47nol35klrioehu3qm6ct@4ax.com...

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:18:20 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


[snip]


Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.

Thanks for playing. What was that you were saying about double
standards?


That you have double standards? Yes, you do.


Uh huh.


Yep.

You have yet to explain how you decide not to hold Bush

responsible for others' 'mistakes' when you want to make Kerry
responsible for the same.


I do hold him responsible, fact is many times in this newsgroup I have
bashed him for things I don't think he done that was right.


That has nothing to do with holding Bush responsible.

Sorry about your luck, the world doesn't revolve around you.
You don't demand

that Bush be held responsible for an invasion based on false premises,

That is what "YOU" demand because "YOU" claim they are false premises.
This is yet another example of how you like to try and control people.
Just because someone else doesn't agree with "YOUR" issue, you want to have
a little fit.

just for one example, and yet you must hold Bush responsible for that
false information written by others if you want to hold Kerry
responsible for the content of a form written by some else.

It is on "HIS" official site, "HE" knows it is false, and "HE" has chosen to
allow it to remain.
Therefore it is "HIS" responsibility to either remove it or have it
corrected.
"YOU" and other liberals have chose to ignore the fact that "KERRY" is lying
about his military service.


You PURPOSELY
ignore that because then you wouldn't have something to ***** about. Face
it, all you want to do is just ***** about people. Most likely because
your
life isn't worth *****.


Well, Bobby can't answer the question.

I have, you just chose to look the other way.
The one who hasn't answered my question, or actually I should say
one's...are the liberals..including you.
No surprise.




---
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful,
and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we."

President George W. Bush.

.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: Controversy over John Kerry's medal 30 Aug 2004 09:55:10 AM
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:43:16 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:fj94j0dimjvfs47nol35klrioehu3qm6ct@4ax.com...

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:18:20 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:


[snip]


Consider that confirmed. Now you have just admitted that *Bush* must
be responsible for the falsehoods apparent in what he was given by the
CIA and other intelligence agencies, since he quoted material (written
by others) as fact.

Thanks for playing. What was that you were saying about double
standards?


That you have double standards? Yes, you do.


Uh huh.


Yep.

You have yet to explain how you decide not to hold Bush

responsible for others' 'mistakes' when you want to make Kerry
responsible for the same.


I do hold him responsible, fact is many times in this newsgroup I have
bashed him for things I don't think he done that was right.


That has nothing to do with holding Bush responsible.


Sorry about your luck, the world doesn't revolve around you.

No, but that does show you to be lying.


You don't demand

that Bush be held responsible for an invasion based on false premises,


That is what "YOU" demand because "YOU" claim they are false premises.
This is yet another example of how you like to try and control people.
Just because someone else doesn't agree with "YOUR" issue, you want to have
a little fit.

Then you should have no troubles showing us the nuclear weapons,
stocks of WMD, and bio-weapons labs.
Oh, wait. It's already been admitted that the intelligence was
*wrong*, but seeing as Bush used it, he's responsible, just as Kerry
is responsible for others' mistakes, right?
Or are there special standards for him?



just for one example, and yet you must hold Bush responsible for