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User: "J Young"
Date: 28 Nov 2007 11:41:04 PM
Object: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus
What the hell is wrong with this world? Cross-dressing day?! This nonsense
of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of unwanting, normal
people has got to stop!!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58914
Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus
Parents pull students from district, citing conflicts with biblical rules
A public school's "gender-bender" cross-dressing event, where boys were
supposed to dress as girls and girls as boys, has prompted at least dozens,
perhaps hundreds, of students to flee the tax-supported institutions in
Iowa.
Many of the parents apparently are members of the Christ Apostolic Temple in
Des Moines, which teaches a biblically based doctrine of rejecting the
world's values.
"Christ Apostolic Temple Inc. Fellowship ... is a Bible-based organization
that believes one must 'come out from among them and be ye separate.' (2
Cor. 6:14-17)," the organization's website says.
That apparently includes cross-dressing, an event which has found
sponsorship in other arenas from the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education
Network, which has promoted a school lesson plan for teaching boys and girls
to cross-dress.
State officials in Des Moines confirmed to WND that at least 80 children
whose parents were alarmed by the "Gender-Bender Day" during homecoming week
at the city's East High School have moved their children from the various
districts in the area into homeschooling plans. Several parents told WND
that the number could be in the hundreds.
--
J Young
jyoungvisions@aol.com
.

User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 01:31:52 AM
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> writes:

What the hell is wrong with this world? Cross-dressing day?! This nonsense
of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of unwanting, normal
people has got to stop!!




http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58914

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known for being more than coincidentally (and occasionally) factual.
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User: "No One"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 12:18:33 AM
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> writes:

What the hell is wrong with this world? Cross-dressing day?! This nonsense
of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of unwanting, normal
people has got to stop!!
A public school's "gender-bender" cross-dressing event, where boys were
supposed to dress as girls and girls as boys, has prompted at least dozens,
perhaps hundreds, of students to flee the tax-supported institutions in
Iowa.

ROTFMAO. All that would happen is that the boys would get to
understand why the girls don't want to run while wearing high heel
shoes and dresses. It sounds silly, but in the 1920s, college boys
used to eat live goldfish because they thought it would impress the
girls. Someone is always doing something a bit silly. So what?
.

User: "Sara Brum"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 09:40:17 AM
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1ei95p.l3k.19.1@news.alt.net...

What the hell is wrong with this world? Cross-dressing day?!

And yet the pope wears a dress and a silly hat...

This nonsense of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of
unwanting, normal people has got to stop!!

I agree. Keep your religion to yourself.
.

User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 01:12:51 PM
"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58914
Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus
Parents pull students from district, citing conflicts with biblical rules

***** biblical rules - it's indecent in *any* community.
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User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 05:07:46 AM
In News 1ei95p.l3k.19.1@news.alt.net,, J Young at jyoungvisions@aol.com,
typed this:

What the hell is wrong with this world?

Too many idiots like you in it.

Cross-dressing day?! This
nonsense of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of
unwanting, normal people has got to stop!!

Yeah, the only time that you should see men dressed as women or women
dressed as men is Halloween!
--
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take away everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson
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User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 01:26:46 PM
On Nov 29, 6:07 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET>
wrote:

In News 1ei95p.l3k.1...@news.alt.net,, J Young at jyoungvisi...@aol.com,
typed this:

What the hell is wrong with this world?


Too many idiots like you in it.

Cross-dressing day?! This
nonsense of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of
unwanting, normal people has got to stop!!


Yeah, the only time that you should see men dressed as women or women
dressed as men is Halloween!

Or when they're the head of the FBI or the mayor of NYC.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
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User: "Scruffy McScruffovitch"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 01:55:02 PM
"Lord Calvert" <CalvertdeGrey@msn.com> wrote in message
news:e75cd28a-e816-4411-88bb-c06de123a165@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

On Nov 29, 6:07 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET>
wrote:

In News 1ei95p.l3k.1...@news.alt.net,, J Young at jyoungvisi...@aol.com,
typed this:

What the hell is wrong with this world?


Too many idiots like you in it.

Cross-dressing day?! This
nonsense of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of
unwanting, normal people has got to stop!!


Yeah, the only time that you should see men dressed as women or women
dressed as men is Halloween!


Or when they're the head of the FBI or the mayor of NYC.

LOL! True.
.



User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 01:26:41 PM
In article <1ei95p.l3k.19.1@news.alt.net> "J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> writes:

What the hell is wrong with this world? Cross-dressing day?! This nonsense
of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of unwanting, normal
people has got to stop!!

"Unwanting" people? What, this was a school full of enlightened
Buddhists?
If so, they wouldn't really care what -- or if -- you were wearing.
-- cary
.

User: "•R. L. MEASURES"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 06:44:36 AM
In article <1ei95p.l3k.19.1@news.alt.net>, "J Young"
<jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote:

What the hell is wrong with this world? Cross-dressing day?! This nonsense
of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of unwanting, normal
people has got to stop!!


• Are you anti-Republican?



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58914


Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus



Parents pull students from district, citing conflicts with biblical rules



A public school's "gender-bender" cross-dressing event, where boys were
supposed to dress as girls and girls as boys, has prompted at least dozens,
perhaps hundreds, of students to flee the tax-supported institutions in
Iowa.

Many of the parents apparently are members of the Christ Apostolic Temple in
Des Moines, which teaches a biblically based doctrine of rejecting the
world's values.

"Christ Apostolic Temple Inc. Fellowship ... is a Bible-based organization
that believes one must 'come out from among them and be ye separate.' (2
Cor. 6:14-17)," the organization's website says.

That apparently includes cross-dressing, an event which has found
sponsorship in other arenas from the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education
Network, which has promoted a school lesson plan for teaching boys and girls
to cross-dress.

State officials in Des Moines confirmed to WND that at least 80 children
whose parents were alarmed by the "Gender-Bender Day" during homecoming week
at the city's East High School have moved their children from the various
districts in the area into homeschooling plans. Several parents told WND
that the number could be in the hundreds.

--
Rich Measures, 386-3734, www.somis.org
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User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=AA=BA=AAandcaroleRtm?="

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus but makes the Salbergfamily horny... 29 Nov 2007 06:50:56 AM
On Nov 29, 7:44 am,
(*R. L. MEASURES) wrote:

In article <1ei95p.l3k.1...@news.alt.net>, "J Young"

<jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:

What the hell is wrong with this world? Cross-dressing day?! This nonsense
of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of unwanting, normal
people has got to stop!!


* Are you anti-Republican?







http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58914


Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus


Parents pull students from district, citing conflicts with biblical rules


A public school's "gender-bender" cross-dressing event, where boys were
supposed to dress as girls and girls as boys, has prompted at least dozens,
perhaps hundreds, of students to flee the tax-supported institutions in
Iowa.


Many of the parents apparently are members of the Christ Apostolic Temple in
Des Moines, which teaches a biblically based doctrine of rejecting the
world's values.


"Christ Apostolic Temple Inc. Fellowship ... is a Bible-based organization
that believes one must 'come out from among them and be ye separate.' (2
Cor. 6:14-17)," the organization's website says.


That apparently includes cross-dressing, an event which has found
sponsorship in other arenas from the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education
Network, which has promoted a school lesson plan for teaching boys and girls
to cross-dress.


State officials in Des Moines confirmed to WND that at least 80 children
whose parents were alarmed by the "Gender-Bender Day" during homecoming week
at the city's East High School have moved their children from the various
districts in the area into homeschooling plans. Several parents told WND
that the number could be in the hundreds.


--
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- Show quoted text -

What will you do now, ***** Salberg, post another obvious fake
picture while I post pictures of your grotesque family?
.


User: "Brian E. Clark"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 11:02:07 AM
In article <1ei95p.l3k.19.1@news.alt.net>, J Young
said...

A public school's "gender-bender" cross-dressing event, where boys were
supposed to dress as girls and girls as boys, has prompted at least dozens,
perhaps hundreds, of students to flee the tax-supported institutions in
Iowa.

Meaning, their Bible-wielding parents got upset.
"Drag days" and other such goof-off events where boys
and girls don each other's clothing have been around
for more than a hundred years. What's the big deal? Is
Mamma Thumper worried that his wearing a dress will
turn her boy gay? Or (more likely) is she worried that
her boy's eagerness to wear a dress will confirm her
existing suspicions?
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 01:22:26 PM
"Brian E. Clark" <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in message
news:MPG.21ba0c1c1aeba15f98acc7@216.196.97.136...

said...

A public school's "gender-bender" cross-dressing event, where boys were
supposed to dress as girls and girls as boys, has prompted at least
dozens,
perhaps hundreds, of students to flee the tax-supported institutions in
Iowa.


Meaning, their Bible-wielding parents got upset.

Opposition to sexual deviance doesn't come JUST from the religious folks.
Here in Dallas, we recently had a runoff election for mayor between a gay
guy and a straight one.
The straight guy was an Abramoff Republican, imported from Hawaii to run on
the GOP ticket.
The gay guy was an honest, experienced, dedicated public servant who came up
through the ranks.
The gay guy lost, and the headline in a local paper read, "We got Leppert -
but at least he's not gay!"
I know some of the folks at that paper - they're not religious.
They just don't like seeing sexual deviants running things.
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 02:24:58 PM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:

"Brian E. Clark" <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in message
news:MPG.21ba0c1c1aeba15f98acc7@216.196.97.136...

said...

The gay guy lost, and the headline in a local paper read, "We got Leppert -
but at least he's not gay!"
I know some of the folks at that paper - they're not religious.
They just don't like seeing sexual deviants running things.

You may know some folks at that paper, but the headline was about how
ridiculous the outcome was. I'd have voted for whoever was going to
do the better job of protecting my wallet.
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 05:17:27 PM
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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You may know some folks at that paper, but the headline was about how
ridiculous the outcome was. I'd have voted for whoever was going to
do the better job of protecting my wallet.

Yeah - that's what you people thought you were doing when you voted for
Bush and the other Republicans, too.
The result - gas prices are through the roof, wages have fallen through the
floor, and this is going to be a seriously SUCKY Xmas for a lot of kids.
Turns out - spending a dollar to save a nickel aint' a profitable strategy.
And it's not sustainable either.
But hey, like your news outlets proclaimed "At least he's not gay!".
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 05:37:04 PM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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You may know some folks at that paper, but the headline was about how
ridiculous the outcome was. I'd have voted for whoever was going to
do the better job of protecting my wallet.


Yeah - that's what you people thought you were doing when you voted for
Bush and the other Republicans, too.
The result - gas prices are through the roof, wages have fallen through the
floor, and this is going to be a seriously SUCKY Xmas for a lot of kids.

How stupid can you be? I live in the Bay Area. The town I live in
probably voted 80% or more against Bush. In nearby San Francisco,
Bush got under 10,000 votes, and a significant fraction of those
were probably due to people pushing the wrong button.

But hey, like your news outlets proclaimed "At least he's not gay!".

What are you babbling about? It was *you* who brought the headline up
so it was *your* news outlet. Can't you at least remember what you
posted only a few hours ago?
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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 05:55:33 PM
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:87zlwve23b.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:

Yeah - that's what you people thought you were doing when you voted for
Bush and the other Republicans, too.
The result - gas prices are through the roof, wages have fallen through
the
floor, and this is going to be a seriously SUCKY Xmas for a lot of kids.


How stupid can you be? I live in the Bay Area. The town I live in
probably voted 80% or more against Bush. In nearby San Francisco,
Bush got under 10,000 votes, and a significant fraction of those
were probably due to people pushing the wrong button.

It's funny to see those of you who *continue* to support Bush's policies,
trying to convince folks you don't support the man.
Keep that attitude up and it'll drive you so crazy that you'll end up
strapping a bomb to yourself and taking hostages at Clinton's campaign
offices.
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 06:31:39 PM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:87zlwve23b.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:


Yeah - that's what you people thought you were doing when you voted for
Bush and the other Republicans, too.
The result - gas prices are through the roof, wages have fallen through
the
floor, and this is going to be a seriously SUCKY Xmas for a lot of kids.


How stupid can you be? I live in the Bay Area. The town I live in
probably voted 80% or more against Bush. In nearby San Francisco,
Bush got under 10,000 votes, and a significant fraction of those
were probably due to people pushing the wrong button.


It's funny to see those of you who *continue* to support Bush's policies,
trying to convince folks you don't support the man.
Keep that attitude up and it'll drive you so crazy that you'll end up
strapping a bomb to yourself and taking hostages at Clinton's campaign
offices.

Get help for your mental problems, and stop lying.
.





User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 09:19:00 PM
Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote:

"Brian E. Clark" <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in message

A public school's "gender-bender" cross-dressing event, where boys were
supposed to dress as girls and girls as boys, has prompted at least
dozens,
perhaps hundreds, of students to flee the tax-supported institutions in
Iowa.


Meaning, their Bible-wielding parents got upset.


Opposition to sexual deviance doesn't come JUST from the religious folks.

This has nothing to do with "sexual deviance", idiot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Dysperdis"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 01 Dec 2007 01:06:30 AM
Ray Fischer wrote:

Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote:

"Brian E. Clark" <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in message


A public school's "gender-bender" cross-dressing event, where boys were
supposed to dress as girls and girls as boys, has prompted at least
dozens,
perhaps hundreds, of students to flee the tax-supported institutions in
Iowa.

Meaning, their Bible-wielding parents got upset.

Opposition to sexual deviance doesn't come JUST from the religious folks.


This has nothing to do with "sexual deviance", idiot.

It's quite troubling that fundies associate a simple school spirit event
with sex.
--
My current project: http://binderreviews.googlepages.com/
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User: "Dionisio"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 06:53:52 PM
J Young wrote:

"Christ Apostolic Temple Inc. Fellowship ... is a Bible-based organization
that believes one must 'come out from among them and be ye separate.' (2
Cor. 6:14-17)," the organization's website says.

Oh the irony!
The day caused many to be separate. How terrible! Living up to the beliefs of the business
-- er, "church."
Well, at least they won't be subject to that immoral situation of being taught by women...
(Their daddies *are* seeing to that, aren't they? Not letting the wife perpetuate that
unholy and offensive behavior, yes?)
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
Christian: One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably
suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor.
-- Ambrose Bierce
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User: "Dysperdis"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 03:03:44 PM
J Young wrote:

What the hell is wrong with this world? Cross-dressing day?! This nonsense
of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of unwanting, normal
people has got to stop!!




http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58914


Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus

In other words, there are a fair number of overly paranoid fundie
parents in Des Moines who are under the delusion that if their child is
exposed to other children dressing up just for the hell of it, they
might be "corrupted" in some way only understood by other paranoid fundies.
--
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User: "No One"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 29 Nov 2007 03:33:39 PM
Dysperdis <dysperdis@gmail.com> writes:

J Young wrote:

What the hell is wrong with this world? Cross-dressing day?! This
nonsense of trying to shove perverted values down the throats of
unwanting, normal people has got to stop!!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58914
Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus


In other words, there are a fair number of overly paranoid fundie
parents in Des Moines who are under the delusion that if their child
is exposed to other children dressing up just for the hell of it, they
might be "corrupted" in some way only understood by other paranoid
fundies.

The only real objection I could see to it is the cost and hassle of
having to buy a boy a dress that a boy would only use once. Otherwise
it is just some silliness. The kids would probably just giggle. It's
only the adults who think it's a big deal.
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 01:22:25 PM
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:87sl2oenyk.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...

Dysperdis <dysperdis@gmail.com> writes:

In other words, there are a fair number of overly paranoid fundie
parents in Des Moines who are under the delusion that if their child
is exposed to other children dressing up just for the hell of it, they
might be "corrupted" in some way only understood by other paranoid
fundies.


The only real objection I could see to it is the cost and hassle of
having to buy a boy a dress that a boy would only use once. Otherwise
it is just some silliness. The kids would probably just giggle. It's
only the adults who think it's a big deal.

Yeah - it's a lot like any other kind of misbehaviour, in that regard.
It all seems like good fun - speeding down the road, experimenting with
pills, practicing sexual deviance.
Everybodys' just partying away - until someone gets hurt.
Then the smarter kids will say, "Hey, maybe the grown-ups were right".
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 02:21:21 PM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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Dysperdis <dysperdis@gmail.com> writes:


In other words, there are a fair number of overly paranoid fundie
parents in Des Moines who are under the delusion that if their child
is exposed to other children dressing up just for the hell of it, they
might be "corrupted" in some way only understood by other paranoid
fundies.


The only real objection I could see to it is the cost and hassle of
having to buy a boy a dress that a boy would only use once. Otherwise
it is just some silliness. The kids would probably just giggle. It's
only the adults who think it's a big deal.


Yeah - it's a lot like any other kind of misbehaviour, in that regard.
It all seems like good fun - speeding down the road, experimenting with
pills, practicing sexual deviance.
Everybodys' just partying away - until someone gets hurt.

Then the smarter kids will say, "Hey, maybe the grown-ups were right".

Oh come off it - wearing a dress for a day? get real. It's just
silly to make a big deal about it, other than to the extent that it is
a 'make work' project for over-committed parents. Next they'll
complain if the Latin club has a toga party. :-)
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 03:37:01 PM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:


Then the smarter kids will say, "Hey, maybe the grown-ups were right".


Oh come off it - wearing a dress for a day? get real. It's just
silly to make a big deal about it, other than to the extent that it is
a 'make work' project for over-committed parents.


Over-committed?
I see that sentiment a lot with deviants - sexual, criminal and religious.
They always get upset when the grownups take away their keys for bad
driving, or take away their freedom for other transgressions.
The religious ones are even worse - organizing to change the rules to
legalize their crimes.

Huh. Can't you read? I was referrint to over-committed parents
(see below).

You all denounce grown-ups for being "over-committed"... when we work to
provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the
blessings of liberty.

I didn't denounce "grown-ups", you idiot - I simply described
reality, people who put in 60 to 80 hour work weeks and who
are struggling to have enough time for everything they need to
do.
Maybe you've never worked for a high-tech company or startup, and
don't know anyone who has.
.
User: "Dysperdis"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 03:53:54 PM
No One wrote:

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:

Then the smarter kids will say, "Hey, maybe the grown-ups were right".

Oh come off it - wearing a dress for a day? get real. It's just
silly to make a big deal about it, other than to the extent that it is
a 'make work' project for over-committed parents.

Over-committed?
I see that sentiment a lot with deviants - sexual, criminal and religious.
They always get upset when the grownups take away their keys for bad
driving, or take away their freedom for other transgressions.
The religious ones are even worse - organizing to change the rules to
legalize their crimes.


Huh. Can't you read? I was referrint to over-committed parents
(see below).

You all denounce grown-ups for being "over-committed"... when we work to
provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the
blessings of liberty.


I didn't denounce "grown-ups", you idiot - I simply described
reality, people who put in 60 to 80 hour work weeks and who
are struggling to have enough time for everything they need to
do.

Maybe you've never worked for a high-tech company or startup, and
don't know anyone who has.

Or, for that matter, any job requiring more than the bare minimum, or
any job that doesn't pay enough to support a family without requiring
overtime.
And of course, that doesn't even touch on the time necessary to actually
take care of their kids- particularly if the kids are involved in sports
or other extracurricular activities.
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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 05:17:27 PM
"Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:SD%3j.8642$UQ1.2944@pd7urf1no...

No One wrote:

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:
I didn't denounce "grown-ups", you idiot - I simply described
reality, people who put in 60 to 80 hour work weeks and who
are struggling to have enough time for everything they need to
do.

Maybe you've never worked for a high-tech company or startup, and
don't know anyone who has.


Or, for that matter, any job requiring more than the bare minimum, or any
job that doesn't pay enough to support a family without requiring
overtime.

Its interesting - the number and variety of reasons that some parents give
for not taking care of business at home.
I ain't no fan of the right-wingers, but the one thing they do right is to
*involve* themselves in their family's lives.
Parenting is graded on attendance.
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 05:30:55 PM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:

"Dysperdis" <dysperdis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:SD%3j.8642$UQ1.2944@pd7urf1no...

No One wrote:

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:


I didn't denounce "grown-ups", you idiot - I simply described
reality, people who put in 60 to 80 hour work weeks and who
are struggling to have enough time for everything they need to
do.

Maybe you've never worked for a high-tech company or startup, and
don't know anyone who has.


Or, for that matter, any job requiring more than the bare minimum, or any
job that doesn't pay enough to support a family without requiring
overtime.


Its interesting - the number and variety of reasons that some parents give
for not taking care of business at home.
I ain't no fan of the right-wingers, but the one thing they do right is to
*involve* themselves in their family's lives.

Parenting is graded on attendance.

Is it your conjecture that putting kids in a car to drag them off to
some big-box discount store to buy something they don't really need
because of some silliness at school is useful "parenting"?
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 05:55:33 PM
"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:874pf3fgy1.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:

Its interesting - the number and variety of reasons that some parents
give
for not taking care of business at home.
I ain't no fan of the right-wingers, but the one thing they do right is
to
*involve* themselves in their family's lives.

Parenting is graded on attendance.


Is it your conjecture that putting kids in a car to drag them off to
some big-box discount store to buy something they don't really need
because of some silliness at school is useful "parenting"?

What a stupid question.
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus 30 Nov 2007 06:32:18 PM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:

"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:874pf3fgy1.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> writes:


Its interesting - the number and variety of reasons that some parents
give
for not taking care of business at home.
I ain't no fan of the right-wingers, but the one thing they do right is
to
*involve* themselves in their family's lives.

Parenting is graded on attendance.


Is it your conjecture that putting kids in a car to drag them off to
some big-box discount store to buy something they don't really need
because of some silliness at school is useful "parenting"?


What a stupid question.

It's a perfectly reasonable question given your stupid statement.
.











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