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"jrh" |
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11 Nov 2005 01:49:40 AM |
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Death Comes to Love |
Death Comes to Love
Two lovers met, embraced and past
a casual affair not meant to last.
When the time for choice came no choice was made
could think no further than getting laid.
The seeds of life though sowed in jest
start to grow as if meant to last.
Snuggled within her womb
forms of consciousness take the shape
of the life she will forsake.
"Who can I find to cut the cord and set me free
by killing the being who lives in me."
The heart is beating, now it's not
as the new life is forced to stop.
For thoughtless sex a minor cost we have to pay
but of the unborn who of you can say.
Sperm feels great coming down the duct
how does the knife feel as he cuts the fetus up.
This I do not know and can not say
but to how the unborn feels
as it's life slips away
it's the same as any human
on their final day
jrh
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: Death Comes to Love |
23 Nov 2005 05:05:02 PM |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:49:40 GMT,
Anonymous Coward, "jrh" wrote:
<Immature and uninformed ANTI-Choice hate-swill flushed>
Now for the ACTUAL **facts**.
The facts that INDICT *all* Anti-Choice bigots.
The facts that NO Anti-Choice loser can disprove ANY of.
Going into the 6th consecutive year of STYMYING Anti-Choicers.
The challenge that they can't even BEGIN to cope with.
The FACTS that they SCURRY away from like a pack of roaches.
6 years... and never has one single fact in this been disproven.
-- Craig Chilton
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ANALYZING ABORTION-ON-REQUEST* in the USA
*(Abortion Rights as they have existed since 1-22-73)
Abortion terminates entities (z/e/fs: zygotes, embryos &
fetuses, up until the 7th month of gestation) which have ALL
of these characteristics in common with sperm and ova:
-- Human
-- Unique
-- As a stage of development, indispensable to future birth
-- Have NEVER experienced conscious awareness
-- Alive
...which makes it hypocritical when abortion opponents
try to defend z/e/fs but NOT sperm and ova.
And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
majority of Americans:
-- In NO way condemns abortion
-- Doesn't even MENTION abortion
-- By Jesus' day, abortion had been around for 1,000 yrs.
-- Contains NO defenses of s/o/z/e/fs
-- Reserves ALL of its protection for already-BORN people
-- That the Bible regards personhood to begin at BIRTH is
made clear by it's immense emphasis on the importance
of BIRTH order, and BIRTHrights.
-- In certain cases, condemned BABIES to horrible deaths
-- Never indicates that there is anything "special" about
fertilization
-- Thus making z/e/f and sperm & ova of EQUAL worth
Abortion-on-request enables women to:
-- Put their lives back on track immediately
-- Restore their well-being to pre-unplanned pregnancy levels
-- Vast majority of women are happy with this decision
-- Most women have no regrets
-- Restore their full range of future opportunities
-- Avoid physical difficulties of a 9-month pregnancy
-- Especially important for young girls, ~12-16
-- Statistically 6-10 times safer than carrying-to-term
-- Avoid the trauma of adopting-out, and wondering later
-- Avoid possibility of changing mind about adopting-out
-- Reduce likelihood of long-term economic deprivation
-- Avoid bringing child into less-loving home
-- Avoid bringing child into unstable environment
-- Wait until timing is better before having children
-- Who then are MORE likely to be loved
-- Who then are MORE likely to be in stable home
-- And thus are LESS like to have troubled childhoods
-- And therefore more likely NOT to become criminals
-- And thus are MORE likely to become successful
Legal abortion-on-request:
-- Is exponentially safer than illegal abortions
-- Thus saving the lives of hundreds or thousands of women/yr.
-- Has been available throughout the USA since early 1973
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 30 million women have had them
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 40 million abortions have been done
Other related facts include:
-- MOST women who have abortions go on to HAVE kids later,
when the timing is better
-- Those children would NOT have been born if the abortions
had not taken place earlier, because the same sperm and
ova would not have matched up.
-- Those "2nd-round" kids STARTED reaching age 13 in
significant numbers by 1988. By the early 1990s, millions
of those "2nd-round" kids were in their mid-teens by the
early 1990s.
-- Mid-teens is the highest risk age for crime, and this
continues into the early 20s.
-- As pointed out above, wanted and loved children are
LESS prone to criminal behavior.
-- By 1995, millions of "2nd-round kids" were entering the
workforce. Perhaps a million-plus MORE have entered it
every year SINCE. By 2000, the oldest ones had reached
the age where they could be getting quite successful.
-- Since the early 1990s, the rate of violent crime in the USA
has declined dramatically, and by 2000 was at 40-year
lows in many categories.
-- The decade of the 1990s, and the 21st century to date,
in the USA, has been the most economically-dynamic
period of time for any nation in the entire history of the
world.
Although the exact figures may be impossible to derive, the
probability that abortion-on-request has SIGNIFICANTLY benefitted
all of America's society in terms of the crime rate and the economy
is QUITE strong, despite the temporary anomaly caused by the attack
on Sept. 11, 2001. And a strong U.S. economy benefits the entire
world.
-- Craig Chilton <>
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ANTI-Choice RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
PRO-Choice egalitarians... fair-minded and sensible.
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| User: "jrh" |
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| Title: Re: Death Comes to Love |
25 Nov 2005 01:43:50 AM |
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Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in
news:pkq9o1po8719t1j697tv2o7jknfa12gnnf@4ax.com: (2)
Craig,
Thanks for the input. They are good questions and it is going to take some
time to formulate a response. The reply will be posted in alt.abortion and
alt.fetus. If cross posting to alt.fetus is a problem let me know.
jrh
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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27 Nov 2005 02:20:50 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 07:43:50 GMT,
"jrh" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Craig,
Thanks for the input. They are good questions and it is going to
take some time to formulate a response. The reply will be posted
in alt.abortion and alt.fetus.
You're most welcome. I'm looking forward to seeing it.
If cross posting to alt.fetus is a problem let me know.
Cross-posting properly is never problematical to me. Proper
cross-postings are (1) a maximum of 5 groups, and (2) groups
for which the post or thread is likely to have a fair amount of
relevance. (alt.fetus -- which I didn't know existed -- would seem
to be relevant.)
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Gaia" |
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11 Nov 2005 03:27:35 AM |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:49:40 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Garbage.
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| User: "jrh" |
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13 Nov 2005 04:29:00 PM |
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Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in
news:ovo8n19mla9b5q8iaq5sddoq5aamrc0mjq@4ax.com:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:49:40 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Garbage.
Correct, abortion turns a human being into garbage
jrh
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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23 Nov 2005 05:21:44 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:29:00 GMT,
Cowardly-Anonymous Bigot, "jrh" wrote:
Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote
Cowardly-Anonymous Bigot, "jrh" wrote
<<<flussshhhhhhh>>>
Garbage.
Correct, abortion turns a human being into garbage.
But that's a VERY rare event.
It happens ONLY when an ANTI-Choice bigot gets SO
worked up in his busybodyism and control-freakish frenzy,
that he drops dead.
Then a hearse comes to haul away the DEAD human garbage,
where previously, there had only stood LIVE human garbage.
No big loss to society, however. Bigots (e.g., Anti-Choicers/
RRR Cultists/homophobic sociopaths) contribute nothing but
dissension and ignorance to society. Things that NO sensible
people want anything to do with.
Here are the FACTS pertaining to abortion. And NO Anti-Choice
loser has ever disproven *any* of them. Never have. And the
never will be able to.
ANALYZING ABORTION-ON-REQUEST* in the USA
*(Abortion Rights as they have existed since 1-22-73)
Abortion terminates entities (z/e/fs: zygotes, embryos &
fetuses, up until the 7th month of gestation) which have ALL
of these characteristics in common with sperm and ova:
-- Human
-- Unique
-- As a stage of development, indispensable to future birth
-- Have NEVER experienced conscious awareness
-- Alive
...which makes it hypocritical when abortion opponents
try to defend z/e/fs but NOT sperm and ova.
And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
majority of Americans:
-- In NO way condemns abortion
-- Doesn't even MENTION abortion
-- By Jesus' day, abortion had been around for 1,000 yrs.
-- Contains NO defenses of s/o/z/e/fs
-- Reserves ALL of its protection for already-BORN people
-- That the Bible regards personhood to begin at BIRTH is
made clear by it's immense emphasis on the importance
of BIRTH order, and BIRTHrights.
-- In certain cases, condemned BABIES to horrible deaths
-- Never indicates that there is anything "special" about
fertilization
-- Thus making z/e/f and sperm & ova of EQUAL worth
Abortion-on-request enables women to:
-- Put their lives back on track immediately
-- Restore their well-being to pre-unplanned pregnancy levels
-- Vast majority of women are happy with this decision
-- Most women have no regrets
-- Restore their full range of future opportunities
-- Avoid physical difficulties of a 9-month pregnancy
-- Especially important for young girls, ~12-16
-- Statistically 6-10 times safer than carrying-to-term
-- Avoid the trauma of adopting-out, and wondering later
-- Avoid possibility of changing mind about adopting-out
-- Reduce likelihood of long-term economic deprivation
-- Avoid bringing child into less-loving home
-- Avoid bringing child into unstable environment
-- Wait until timing is better before having children
-- Who then are MORE likely to be loved
-- Who then are MORE likely to be in stable home
-- And thus are LESS like to have troubled childhoods
-- And therefore more likely NOT to become criminals
-- And thus are MORE likely to become successful
Legal abortion-on-request:
-- Is exponentially safer than illegal abortions
-- Thus saving the lives of hundreds or thousands of women/yr.
-- Has been available throughout the USA since early 1973
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 30 million women have had them
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 40 million abortions have been done
Other related facts include:
-- MOST women who have abortions go on to HAVE kids later,
when the timing is better
-- Those children would NOT have been born if the abortions
had not taken place earlier, because the same sperm and
ova would not have matched up.
-- Those "2nd-round" kids STARTED reaching age 13 in
significant numbers by 1988. By the early 1990s, millions
of those "2nd-round" kids were in their mid-teens by the
early 1990s.
-- Mid-teens is the highest risk age for crime, and this
continues into the early 20s.
-- As pointed out above, wanted and loved children are
LESS prone to criminal behavior.
-- By 1995, millions of "2nd-round kids" were entering the
workforce. Perhaps a million-plus MORE have entered it
every year SINCE. By 2000, the oldest ones had reached
the age where they could be getting quite successful.
-- Since the early 1990s, the rate of violent crime in the USA
has declined dramatically, and by 2000 was at 40-year
lows in many categories.
-- The decade of the 1990s, and the 21st century to date,
in the USA, has been the most economically-dynamic
period of time for any nation in the entire history of the
world.
Although the exact figures may be impossible to derive, the
probability that abortion-on-request has SIGNIFICANTLY benefitted
all of America's society in terms of the crime rate and the economy
is QUITE strong, despite the temporary anomaly caused by the attack
on Sept. 11, 2001. And a strong U.S. economy benefits the entire
world.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
--
ANTI-Choice RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
PRO-Choice egalitarians... fair-minded and sensible.
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Death Comes to Love |
13 Nov 2005 07:03:34 PM |
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jrh wrote:
Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in
news:ovo8n19mla9b5q8iaq5sddoq5aamrc0mjq@4ax.com:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:49:40 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Garbage.
Correct, abortion turns a human being into garbage
That's a lie, if someone were to abort a human *BEING* it would be
murder and they'd go to prison, no one goes to prison for abortion so
your "logic" is faulty.
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| User: "jrh" |
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16 Nov 2005 02:59:39 AM |
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Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in
news:CnRdf.176$bh6.92@fed1read05:
jrh wrote:
Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in
news:ovo8n19mla9b5q8iaq5sddoq5aamrc0mjq@4ax.com:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:49:40 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Garbage.
Correct, abortion turns a human being into garbage
That's a lie, if someone were to abort a human *BEING* it would be
murder and they'd go to prison, no one goes to prison for abortion so
your "logic" is faulty.
Murder is a legal definition.
When society recoginize the fact that all humans are created equal
with an unalienable right to live, the killing of unborn humans will
be defined as murder. However the jurisdiction of the state should not
extend into a persons body, so the woman would be exempt from prosecution.
As soon as a human egg is fertilized a new human being exists.
It is alive, it is human, it is a being.
jrh
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| User: "Gaia" |
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16 Nov 2005 03:23:42 AM |
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:59:39 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in
news:CnRdf.176$bh6.92@fed1read05:
jrh wrote:
Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in
news:ovo8n19mla9b5q8iaq5sddoq5aamrc0mjq@4ax.com:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:49:40 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Garbage.
Correct, abortion turns a human being into garbage
That's a lie, if someone were to abort a human *BEING* it would be
murder and they'd go to prison, no one goes to prison for abortion so
your "logic" is faulty.
Murder is a legal definition.
....which has absolutely ***** all to do with LEGAL abortion.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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16 Nov 2005 10:35:03 PM |
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jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in
jrh wrote:
Correct, abortion turns a human being into garbage
That's a lie, if someone were to abort a human *BEING* it would be
murder and they'd go to prison, no one goes to prison for abortion so
your "logic" is faulty.
Murder is a legal definition.
When society recoginize the fact that all humans are created equal
with an unalienable right to live, the killing of unborn humans will
be defined as murder.
If people have a right to live then why are you letting people die?
Why are you setting on your hypocritical ***** bitching about others
instead of giving up YOUR money and freedom to save lives?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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16 Nov 2005 10:26:46 AM |
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jrh wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote in
news:CnRdf.176$bh6.92@fed1read05:
jrh wrote:
Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in
news:ovo8n19mla9b5q8iaq5sddoq5aamrc0mjq@4ax.com:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:49:40 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Garbage.
Correct, abortion turns a human being into garbage
That's a lie, if someone were to abort a human *BEING* it would be
murder and they'd go to prison, no one goes to prison for abortion so
your "logic" is faulty.
Murder is a legal definition.
When society recoginize the fact that all humans are created equal
with an unalienable right to live, the killing of unborn humans will
be defined as murder. However the jurisdiction of the state should not
extend into a persons body, so the woman would be exempt from prosecution.
As soon as a human egg is fertilized a new human being exists.
It is alive, it is human, it is a being.
You're delusion, ignorant and just plain wrong
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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23 Nov 2005 05:21:33 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:03:34 -0800,
Mimi Cohen wrote:
Cowardly-Anonymous Bigot, "jrh" wrote:
Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote:
Cowardly-Anonymous Bigot, "jrh" wrote:
<<<flussssssshhhhh>>>
Garbage.
Correct, abortion turns a human being into garbage
That's a lie, if someone were to abort a human *BEING* it would be
murder and they'd go to prison, no one goes to prison for abortion so
your "logic" is faulty.
How true!
Being intelligent is something that NO Anti-Choicer can
ever be accused of.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
--
RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
Puritanism (in modern times, the mindset of the RRR Cultists):
The haunting fear that someone, somewhere
may be happy.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Death Comes to Love (Crappy anti-abortion poetry) |
12 Nov 2005 01:10:20 AM |
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jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Death Comes to Love
Two lovers met, embraced and past
a casual affair not meant to last.
When the time for choice came no choice was made
Why is it that abortion opponents think that crap poetry is
somehow meaningful?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "jrh" |
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13 Nov 2005 04:44:56 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:dl44gs$a6i$1@bolt.sonic.net:
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Death Comes to Love
Two lovers met, embraced and past
a casual affair not meant to last.
When the time for choice came no choice was made
Why is it that abortion opponents think that crap poetry is
somehow meaningful?
Poetry about abortion is crap because killing a human being
at any stage of development is crap.
The creation of human life is the result of conscious choices,
be it for a moment of pleasure, or breeding the super race.
The rapest chooses to rape because he cares not for the life of the
women he violates. The abortionist chooses to kill the human life
for a few hundred dollars. Most women who end up in abortion clinics
are given no other choice, forced by social or economic preasure to do
something in their hearts they know is wrong.
Being blind to this fact does not free one from the consequences of the
act.
jrh
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| User: "Gaia" |
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14 Nov 2005 02:49:08 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:44:56 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:dl44gs$a6i$1@bolt.sonic.net:
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Death Comes to Love
Two lovers met, embraced and past
a casual affair not meant to last.
When the time for choice came no choice was made
Why is it that abortion opponents think that crap poetry is
somehow meaningful?
Poetry about abortion is crap...
Yours, especially.
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| User: "jrh" |
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16 Nov 2005 03:37:06 AM |
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Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in
news:qrjgn1p3tf0g8huma9eteodame3det8ef8@4ax.com:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:44:56 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:dl44gs$a6i$1@bolt.sonic.net:
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Death Comes to Love
Two lovers met, embraced and past
a casual affair not meant to last.
When the time for choice came no choice was made
Why is it that abortion opponents think that crap poetry is
somehow meaningful?
Poetry about abortion is crap...
<because killing a human being at any stage of development is crap.>
Yours, especially.
A lame response to to a meaningless clip. I suggest you open your eyes, and
pray you might be saved from experiencing what you promote in your next
reincarnation.
jrh
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| User: "Gaia" |
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16 Nov 2005 03:45:07 AM |
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:37:06 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in
news:qrjgn1p3tf0g8huma9eteodame3det8ef8@4ax.com:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:44:56 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:dl44gs$a6i$1@bolt.sonic.net:
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Death Comes to Love
Two lovers met, embraced and past
a casual affair not meant to last.
When the time for choice came no choice was made
Why is it that abortion opponents think that crap poetry is
somehow meaningful?
Poetry about abortion is crap...
<because killing a human being at any stage of development is crap.>
Yours, especially.
A lame response...
....to a failed attempted at meaningful literature.
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16 Nov 2005 10:38:21 PM |
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jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in
Poetry about abortion is crap...
Yours, especially.
A lame response to to a meaningless clip. I suggest you open your eyes,
Open your own eyes. Your hate has corrupted you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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16 Nov 2005 08:14:22 AM |
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jrh <no@spam.com> writes:
Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in
news:qrjgn1p3tf0g8huma9eteodame3det8ef8@4ax.com:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:44:56 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:dl44gs$a6i$1@bolt.sonic.net:
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Death Comes to Love
Two lovers met, embraced and past
a casual affair not meant to last.
When the time for choice came no choice was made
Why is it that abortion opponents think that crap poetry is
somehow meaningful?
Poetry about abortion is crap...
<because killing a human being at any stage of development is crap.>
So why aren't you whining at your alleged deity for doing it?
Yours, especially.
A lame response to to a meaningless clip. I suggest you open your eyes, and
pray you might be saved from experiencing what you promote in your next
reincarnation.
At least you agree your (ahem) "poetry" is indeed meaningless...and Gaia's
done something you'll never be able to do and don't understand, anyway.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, San Antonio 1 (November 13)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, November 17 at Manitoba, 7:35
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13 Nov 2005 10:55:19 PM |
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jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Death Comes to Love
Two lovers met, embraced and past
a casual affair not meant to last.
When the time for choice came no choice was made
Why is it that abortion opponents think that crap poetry is
somehow meaningful?
Poetry about abortion is crap because killing a human being
And so the pro-liar moron resorts to the usual screeching of "murder"
and "baby killer!"
It is ALL about hate.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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16 Nov 2005 03:19:06 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:dl95bn$ro5$1@bolt.sonic.net:
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Death Comes to Love
Two lovers met, embraced and past
a casual affair not meant to last.
When the time for choice came no choice was made
Why is it that abortion opponents think that crap poetry is
somehow meaningful?
Poetry about abortion is crap because killing a human being
at any stage of development is crap.
The creation of human life is the result of conscious choices,
be it for a moment of pleasure, or breeding the super race.
The rapest chooses to rape because he cares not for the life of the
women he violates. The abortionist chooses to kill the human life
for a few hundred dollars. Most women who end up in abortion clinics
are given no other choice, forced by social or economic preasure to do
something in their hearts they know is wrong.
Being blind to this fact does not free one from the consequences of the
act.
And so the pro-liar moron resorts to the usual screeching of "murder"
and "baby killer!"
Murder and baby killing were not mentioned, but your reaction indicates
sometning within you knows it is true.
It is ALL about hate.
Hate for the children who will replace you when your life is over?
Hate for those who love human life from the momenent it begins?
Hate for those who care enough for a women to try and save her child?
What is the purpose of life?
What is the purpose of your life and why do you promote-abortion?
jrh
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| User: "Gaia" |
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| Title: Re: Death Comes to Love (Crappy anti-abortion poetry) |
16 Nov 2005 03:26:26 AM |
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:19:06 GMT, jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:dl95bn$ro5$1@bolt.sonic.net:
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Death Comes to Love
Two lovers met, embraced and past
a casual affair not meant to last.
When the time for choice came no choice was made
Why is it that abortion opponents think that crap poetry is
somehow meaningful?
Poetry about abortion is crap because killing a human being
at any stage of development is crap.
The creation of human life is the result of conscious choices,
be it for a moment of pleasure, or breeding the super race.
The rapest chooses to rape because he cares not for the life of the
women he violates. The abortionist chooses to kill the human life
for a few hundred dollars. Most women who end up in abortion clinics
are given no other choice, forced by social or economic preasure to do
something in their hearts they know is wrong.
Being blind to this fact does not free one from the consequences of the
act.
And so the pro-liar moron resorts to the usual screeching of "murder"
and "baby killer!"
Murder and baby killing were not mentioned, but your reaction indicates
sometning within you knows it is true.
It is ALL about hate.
Hate for the children who will replace you when your life is over?
What kind of fucking moronism is this?
Hate for those who love human life from the momenent it begins?
Idiot.
Hate for those who care enough for a women to try and save her child?
LMAO!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Death Comes to Love (Crappy anti-abortion poetry) |
16 Nov 2005 10:37:37 PM |
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jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:dl95bn$ro5$1@bolt.sonic.net:
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
jrh <no@spam.com> wrote:
Death Comes to Love
Two lovers met, embraced and past
a casual affair not meant to last.
When the time for choice came no choice was made
Why is it that abortion opponents think that crap poetry is
somehow meaningful?
Poetry about abortion is crap because killing a human being
at any stage of development is crap.
The creation of human life is the result of conscious choices,
Idiotic nonsense.
1) Human life isn't created during fertilization. Sperm and egg are
human life before fertilization.
2) Fertilization happens WITHOUT any conscious choices.
3) Obviously you're just looking for an excuse to make women suffer
for sex.
The rapest chooses to rape because he cares not for the life of the
women he violates.
You choose to enslave women because you don't give a ***** about them
women you would make suffer.
And so the pro-liar moron resorts to the usual screeching of "murder"
and "baby killer!"
Murder and baby killing were not mentioned, but your reaction indicates
sometning within you knows it is true.
I know that you're a pro-liar moron.
It is ALL about hate.
Hate for the children who will replace you when your life is over?
And so the pro-liar retreats to his perverse little fantasies.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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