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Date: 18 Nov 2006 09:13:32 AM
Object: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press
Saturday 18 November 2006
Washington - The Senate's next Republican leader issued a veiled
threat to block action on legislation if Democrats refuse to allow
confirmation votes on President Bush's troubled judicial nominations.
Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who will become minority leader
Jan. 4, told the conservative Federalist Society Friday not to feel
bad about the Senate election results because Republicans will hold
49 seats in a body that requires 60 votes to end a filibuster and
bring legislation or presidential nominees to a final vote.
If the "Democrats want our cooperation, they'll give the
president's judicial nominees an up-or-down vote," McConnell said.
Vice President ***** Cheney told the same group Friday that
Republicans' loss of Congress in last week's election won't dissuade
Bush from continuing to nominate strict-constructionist judges to the
federal bench.
Democrats have used filibusters and the threat of them to block
several of Bush's more conservative federal appeals court nominees
who had the support of a majority of senators but lacked the 60
pledges needed to force a vote.
Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., became so irked that he
brought the Senate to the brink of shutting down by threatening to
get a parliamentary ruling forbidding filibusters on judicial
nominations.
Only a bipartisan "Gang of 14" senators - seven Republicans and
seven Democrats - averted the showdown with an agreement to allow
some of Bush's nominees to be confirmed. Democrats subsequently
rejected the idea of using filibusters to block Bush's two Supreme
Court nominees - Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito.
"Senator McConnell wants bipartisan cooperation but that's a
two-way street," his spokesman, Don Stewart, said Friday. "You can't
expect easy cooperation on issues of importance to them unless they
respect issues of importance to us, including the principle that
judges deserve an up-or-down vote."
Democrats chalked up McConnell's comments to posturing and plain
math.
"The president should stop picking fights and start working with
Democrats to pick nominees who can be confirmed," said Jim Manley,
spokesman for Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada.
"When we work together on consensus judicial nominees we can make
progress," said Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the incoming
Democratic chairman of the Judiciary Committee.
Bush did the opposite this week, renominating six judges, four of
them vehemently opposed by Democrats. Leahy said the renominations
amounted to the White House "taking the bait of right-wing partisan
groups."
"Advice and consent does not mean giving the president a free
pass to pack the courts with ideologues from the right or left,"
Leahy said. "The American people want the Senate to be more than a
rubber stamp."
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/111806Z.shtml
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User: "Peacenik"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 07:36:31 PM
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jgkeegan-0E57AC.10133218112006@individual.net...

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press

Saturday 18 November 2006

Washington - The Senate's next Republican leader issued a veiled
threat to block action on legislation if Democrats refuse to allow
confirmation votes on President Bush's troubled judicial nominations.

***** you, Republicans. WE'RE in charge now.
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 19 Nov 2006 10:15:20 AM
Peacenik wrote:

"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jgkeegan-0E57AC.10133218112006@individual.net...

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press

Saturday 18 November 2006

Washington - The Senate's next Republican leader issued a veiled
threat to block action on legislation if Democrats refuse to allow
confirmation votes on President Bush's troubled judicial nominations.


***** you, Republicans. WE'RE in charge now.

LOL
Well Peacenik, let's hope they get it right. Do you know why? Because
cocky little bastards like yourself, will get laughed at in the face
and ridiculed without mercy if they don't. So keep up the talk,
because if they don't get it right, you might as well just go into
hiding.
.


User: "Moses"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 09:42:31 AM
I am surprised to hear Democratic leaders say they'll support the Bush
chice of x-cia guy to be secretary of defense. If I'm not mistaken,
this is they guy who stayed with CIA just long enough to shake it up and
make many enemies by Republicanising the agency and firing democrats there.
james g. keegan jr. wrote:

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press

Saturday 18 November 2006

Washington - The Senate's next Republican leader issued a veiled
threat to block action on legislation if Democrats refuse to allow
confirmation votes on President Bush's troubled judicial nominations.

Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who will become minority leader
Jan. 4, told the conservative Federalist Society Friday not to feel
bad about the Senate election results because Republicans will hold
49 seats in a body that requires 60 votes to end a filibuster and
bring legislation or presidential nominees to a final vote.

If the "Democrats want our cooperation, they'll give the
president's judicial nominees an up-or-down vote," McConnell said.

Vice President ***** Cheney told the same group Friday that
Republicans' loss of Congress in last week's election won't dissuade
Bush from continuing to nominate strict-constructionist judges to the
federal bench.

Democrats have used filibusters and the threat of them to block
several of Bush's more conservative federal appeals court nominees
who had the support of a majority of senators but lacked the 60
pledges needed to force a vote.

Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., became so irked that he
brought the Senate to the brink of shutting down by threatening to
get a parliamentary ruling forbidding filibusters on judicial
nominations.

Only a bipartisan "Gang of 14" senators - seven Republicans and
seven Democrats - averted the showdown with an agreement to allow
some of Bush's nominees to be confirmed. Democrats subsequently
rejected the idea of using filibusters to block Bush's two Supreme
Court nominees - Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito.

"Senator McConnell wants bipartisan cooperation but that's a
two-way street," his spokesman, Don Stewart, said Friday. "You can't
expect easy cooperation on issues of importance to them unless they
respect issues of importance to us, including the principle that
judges deserve an up-or-down vote."

Democrats chalked up McConnell's comments to posturing and plain
math.

"The president should stop picking fights and start working with
Democrats to pick nominees who can be confirmed," said Jim Manley,
spokesman for Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

"When we work together on consensus judicial nominees we can make
progress," said Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the incoming
Democratic chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

Bush did the opposite this week, renominating six judges, four of
them vehemently opposed by Democrats. Leahy said the renominations
amounted to the White House "taking the bait of right-wing partisan
groups."

"Advice and consent does not mean giving the president a free
pass to pack the courts with ideologues from the right or left,"
Leahy said. "The American people want the Senate to be more than a
rubber stamp."

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/111806Z.shtml

.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 09:48:15 AM
In article <12luafa48ngid96@corp.supernews.com>,
Moses <moses@spoof.net> wrote:

I am surprised to hear Democratic leaders say they'll support the Bush
chice of x-cia guy to be secretary of defense. If I'm not mistaken,
this is they guy who stayed with CIA just long enough to shake it up and
make many enemies by Republicanising the agency and firing democrats there.

i am too. they must be terrified rhummy will start a war if they
don't replace him immediately.
.


User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 12:55:30 PM
james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press

More proof that neocons just don't get it.
[...]

If the "Democrats want our cooperation, they'll give the
president's judicial nominees an up-or-down vote," McConnell said.

It seems that Bush isn't the only dictatoir-wannabe in Washington.

Vice President ***** Cheney told the same group Friday that
Republicans' loss of Congress in last week's election won't dissuade
Bush from continuing to nominate strict-constructionist judges to the
federal bench.

In other words, when Bush said he would work with the Democrats he
was lying again.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 02:59:14 PM
In article <455f5722$0$34503$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:

james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press


More proof that neocons just don't get it.

[...]

If the "Democrats want our cooperation, they'll give the
president's judicial nominees an up-or-down vote," McConnell said.


It seems that Bush isn't the only dictatoir-wannabe in Washington.

Vice President ***** Cheney told the same group Friday that
Republicans' loss of Congress in last week's election won't dissuade
Bush from continuing to nominate strict-constructionist judges to the
federal bench.


In other words, when Bush said he would work with the Democrats he
was lying again.

oh yes. one would have to be am imbecile to have believed bush would
have told the truth.
.

User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 01:17:02 PM
Ray Fischer wrote:

james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press


More proof that neocons just don't get it.

So when the Democrats threatened that they would block a vote,
filibuster, and even shut down congress...they didn't get it, right?


[...]

If the "Democrats want our cooperation, they'll give the
president's judicial nominees an up-or-down vote," McConnell said.


It seems that Bush isn't the only dictatoir-wannabe in Washington.

Vice President ***** Cheney told the same group Friday that
Republicans' loss of Congress in last week's election won't dissuade
Bush from continuing to nominate strict-constructionist judges to the
federal bench.


In other words, when Bush said he would work with the Democrats he
was lying again.

And the Democrats were "lying" when they said they would work with
Republicans, when they threatened such actions like blocking votes,
filibuster, and even shutting down congress, right?
.
User: "Shawn Hirn"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 02:22:55 PM
In article <1163877422.427136.231210@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press


More proof that neocons just don't get it.


So when the Democrats threatened that they would block a vote,
filibuster, and even shut down congress...they didn't get it, right?

Actually, the job of Congress IS NOT to rubber stamp whatever the
President wants. This is why it benefits all Americans to have a
Republican majority in Congress when a Democrat is President, and a
Democratic majority in Congress when a Republican is President.
The Republicans blocked plenty of Clinton's judicial nominees, when he
was President, so don't get your shorts all bunched up when the
Democrats scrutinize Bush's judicial nominees.
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 06:35:18 PM
Shawn Hirn wrote:

In article <1163877422.427136.231210@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press


More proof that neocons just don't get it.


So when the Democrats threatened that they would block a vote,
filibuster, and even shut down congress...they didn't get it, right?


Actually, the job of Congress IS NOT to rubber stamp whatever the
President wants. This is why it benefits all Americans to have a
Republican majority in Congress when a Democrat is President, and a
Democratic majority in Congress when a Republican is President.

The Republicans blocked plenty of Clinton's judicial nominees, when he
was President, so don't get your shorts all bunched up when the
Democrats scrutinize Bush's judicial nominees.

Shawn,
Maybe this is going to be just a bit hard for you to understand,
hopefully not.
My point is that both parties play this game. Neither party is innocent
of this. So if one is going to bash a party, then that person should
be prepared to accept the fact that his or her own party does the same
thing. That's all...no shorts are bunched up or anything like that.
.
User: "Shawn Hirn"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 10:47:23 PM
In article <1163896518.218004.70980@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Shawn Hirn wrote:

In article <1163877422.427136.231210@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press


More proof that neocons just don't get it.


So when the Democrats threatened that they would block a vote,
filibuster, and even shut down congress...they didn't get it, right?


Actually, the job of Congress IS NOT to rubber stamp whatever the
President wants. This is why it benefits all Americans to have a
Republican majority in Congress when a Democrat is President, and a
Democratic majority in Congress when a Republican is President.

The Republicans blocked plenty of Clinton's judicial nominees, when he
was President, so don't get your shorts all bunched up when the
Democrats scrutinize Bush's judicial nominees.


Shawn,
Maybe this is going to be just a bit hard for you to understand,
hopefully not.
My point is that both parties play this game. Neither party is innocent
of this. So if one is going to bash a party, then that person should
be prepared to accept the fact that his or her own party does the same
thing. That's all...no shorts are bunched up or anything like that.

That's what I said. It is the other each party's job to keep the other
party in check. This is how we avoid a dictatorship. Try reading for
comprehension next time.
.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 11:03:51 PM
Shawn Hirn wrote:

In article <1163896518.218004.70980@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Shawn Hirn wrote:

In article <1163877422.427136.231210@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press


More proof that neocons just don't get it.


So when the Democrats threatened that they would block a vote,
filibuster, and even shut down congress...they didn't get it, right?


Actually, the job of Congress IS NOT to rubber stamp whatever the
President wants. This is why it benefits all Americans to have a
Republican majority in Congress when a Democrat is President, and a
Democratic majority in Congress when a Republican is President.

The Republicans blocked plenty of Clinton's judicial nominees, when he
was President, so don't get your shorts all bunched up when the
Democrats scrutinize Bush's judicial nominees.


Shawn,
Maybe this is going to be just a bit hard for you to understand,
hopefully not.
My point is that both parties play this game. Neither party is innocent
of this. So if one is going to bash a party, then that person should
be prepared to accept the fact that his or her own party does the same
thing. That's all...no shorts are bunched up or anything like that.


That's what I said. It is the other each party's job to keep the other
party in check. This is how we avoid a dictatorship. Try reading for
comprehension next time.

That's odd coming from you, several people on my end who read your
reply said the same exact thing about you...to try reading
comprehension.
Cheers!
.
User: "Sylvia R. Dickinson"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 19 Nov 2006 12:40:32 AM
osprey wrote:

That's odd coming from you, several people on my end who read your
reply said the same exact thing about you...to try reading
comprehension.

Stop lying.
.





User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 02:23:15 PM
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press


More proof that neocons just don't get it.


So when the Democrats threatened that they would block a vote,
filibuster, and even shut down congress...they didn't get it, right?

Given the turnout of the election I'd say that they did indeed get it.

[...]

If the "Democrats want our cooperation, they'll give the
president's judicial nominees an up-or-down vote," McConnell said.


It seems that Bush isn't the only dictatoir-wannabe in Washington.

Vice President ***** Cheney told the same group Friday that
Republicans' loss of Congress in last week's election won't dissuade
Bush from continuing to nominate strict-constructionist judges to the
federal bench.


In other words, when Bush said he would work with the Democrats he
was lying again.


And the Democrats were "lying" when they said they would work with
Republicans,

"Working with" doesn't mean "blindly obeying", *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 03:01:13 PM
In article <455f6bb3$0$34514$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

In other words, when Bush said he would work with the Democrats he
was lying again.


And the Democrats were "lying"

bush is resubmitting names of judges previously rejected by congress,
not the democrats.
my guess is that, in this case you were just ignorant rather than
misrepresenting again.
.


User: "Jeffrey Turner"

Title: Re: Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees 18 Nov 2006 01:48:49 PM
osprey wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

james g. keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:

Democrats Warned Not to Block Bush's Judicial Nominees
By Laurie Kellman
The Associated Press


More proof that neocons just don't get it.



So when the Democrats threatened that they would block a vote,
filibuster, and even shut down congress...they didn't get it, right?



[...]

If the "Democrats want our cooperation, they'll give the
president's judicial nominees an up-or-down vote," McConnell said.


It seems that Bush isn't the only dictatoir-wannabe in Washington.


Vice President ***** Cheney told the same group Friday that
Republicans' loss of Congress in last week's election won't dissuade
Bush from continuing to nominate strict-constructionist judges to the
federal bench.


In other words, when Bush said he would work with the Democrats he
was lying again.



And the Democrats were "lying" when they said they would work with
Republicans, when they threatened such actions like blocking votes,
filibuster, and even shutting down congress, right?

Even George Washington had a judicial nominee blocked. The Senate is
supposed to be an equal partner in the process, not just a rubberstamp
for any appointee not convicted of manslaughter.
--Jeff
--
Whenever morality is based on theology,
whenever right is made dependent on
divine authority, the most immoral,
unjust, infamous things can be
justified and established. --Ludwig Feuerbach
.




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