Science > Abortion > Does Flower Power think this boy should have been aborted?
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"Steenkin Man" |
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24 Jun 2004 04:28:00 AM |
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Does Flower Power think this boy should have been aborted? |
Flower Power argues for the killing of unborn babies who have
disabilities.
This disabled boy got on the best-seller list before he died. He began
writing poetry while only three and eventually produced five volumes
that sold millions of copies.
The world is fortunate that a haggard old hippy didn't get her
knitting needles into him.
Story:
US child poet dies after illness
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3833573.stm
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num tibi mentireris?
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01 Jul 2004 08:53:22 PM |
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Verner Karleborg, you know who I am. But you don't...know why...I'm here.
Osprey wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Osprey wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
You cannot have a new human being without meiosis.
meiosis alone can not create a human being.
Neither can fertilization, *****.
Fertilization is the first step in creation.
And I thought it was flirting.
Drinking
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John Henry
www.lowgenius.com
"They...give up their lives so that we can be free. It is...their gift to
us. And all they ask...is that we never send them into harm's way unless it
is absolutely necessary. Will they ever trust us again?" - Michael Moore,
'Farenheit 9-11'
Remove the SPAMBLOCK and organize an orgy to reply by e-mail
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| User: "Osprey" |
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01 Jul 2004 09:01:43 PM |
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"John Henry" <jhd@inSPAMBLOCKsurgent.orgy> wrote in message
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Verner Karleborg, you know who I am. But you don't...know why...I'm here.
Osprey wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Osprey wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
You cannot have a new human being without meiosis.
meiosis alone can not create a human being.
Neither can fertilization, *****.
Fertilization is the first step in creation.
And I thought it was flirting.
Drinking
ROFL
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John Henry
www.lowgenius.com
"They...give up their lives so that we can be free. It is...their gift to
us. And all they ask...is that we never send them into harm's way unless
it
is absolutely necessary. Will they ever trust us again?" - Michael Moore,
'Farenheit 9-11'
Remove the SPAMBLOCK and organize an orgy to reply by e-mail
"It didn't get any higher than me," he told The Hill newspaper. "On 9/11,
9/12 and 9/13, many things didn't get any higher than me. I decided it in
consultation with the FBI." - Richard Clarke: Big Part of Moore's Movie 'a
Mistake'
In his admission that he and he alone made the decision to approve the
flyouts.
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| User: "SomeSappyWriter" |
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26 Jun 2004 06:09:05 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 18:59:14 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:52:37 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:50:20 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
<snipping Flowerpower's normal ranting and anger>
Steenkin Man,
Want to see a pro-aborts argument killed immediately.
Many of these pro-aborts, like Flowerpower (watch Flowerpower try and
switch
the subject of this post in her reply in order to avoid what follows)
Will say that life doesn't begin at conception.
Flowerpower, show us any credible evidence supported by science that
will
agree life doesn't begin at conception.
There you go Steenkin Man,
That kills their argument.
Excellent work.
You provoked a lot of hysterical screaming, especially from those
inclined to abuse drugs, but not one could produce a coherent argument
against you. Some of them struggled to produce a coherent sentence.
I'm a bit worried about the mental health of FlowerlessPowerless. She
seems to be deteriorating very rapidly.
Snicker. That whole argument is efficiently derailed by the simple
process of pointing out that dead sperm and eggs don't work.
Nope, that is a strawman.
No, *****, it isn't, and you obviously don't even know what a
strawman argument is.
Therefore, life is present before conception.
Not a new individual human being.
There isn't a "new individual human being" immediately after
conception either, moron.
Yes, there is...it begins with cell division and the process continues until
the day we die.
Mitosis
Now, Bobby loves to move
the goalposts and waffle on about a *new* life when that's pointed
out, and yet he comes back to the same tired dogma - lack of
imagination, I surmise.
Note how Adam who has claimed he is ignoring me is still making reference
to
Notice how ***** did exactly as Adam predicted and is now whining
about it?
Notice how ***** Ray Fischer had absolutley nothing of importance or value
to add to this discusison
In your opinion.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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26 Jun 2004 07:46:36 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
Snicker. That whole argument is efficiently derailed by the simple
process of pointing out that dead sperm and eggs don't work.
Nope, that is a strawman.
No, *****, it isn't, and you obviously don't even know what a
strawman argument is.
Therefore, life is present before conception.
Not a new individual human being.
There isn't a "new individual human being" immediately after
conception either, moron.
Yes, there is...
Then obviously neither you nor it have any need for the woman's body
since it is, as you claim, "independant".
..it begins with cell division and the process continues until
Don't babble idiocy that you don't understand, Ashsole.
Now, Bobby loves to move
the goalposts and waffle on about a *new* life when that's pointed
out, and yet he comes back to the same tired dogma - lack of
imagination, I surmise.
Note how Adam who has claimed he is ignoring me is still making reference
to
Notice how ***** did exactly as Adam predicted and is now whining
about it?
Notice how ***** Ray Fischer had absolutley nothing of importance or value
"I know you are but what am I?"
Grow up, *****.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Bob" |
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26 Jun 2004 12:37:44 PM |
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Adam H. wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:52:37 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:50:20 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
<snipping Flowerpower's normal ranting and anger>
Steenkin Man,
Want to see a pro-aborts argument killed immediately.
Many of these pro-aborts, like Flowerpower (watch Flowerpower try and switch
the subject of this post in her reply in order to avoid what follows)
Will say that life doesn't begin at conception.
Flowerpower, show us any credible evidence supported by science that will
agree life doesn't begin at conception.
There you go Steenkin Man,
That kills their argument.
Excellent work.
You provoked a lot of hysterical screaming, especially from those
inclined to abuse drugs, but not one could produce a coherent argument
against you. Some of them struggled to produce a coherent sentence.
I'm a bit worried about the mental health of FlowerlessPowerless. She
seems to be deteriorating very rapidly.
Snicker. That whole argument is efficiently derailed by the simple
process of pointing out that dead sperm and eggs don't work.
Therefore, life is present before conception. Now, Bobby loves to move
the goalposts and waffle on about a *new* life when that's pointed
out, and yet he comes back to the same tired dogma - lack of
imagination, I surmise.
But dead sperm and eggs don't work. Life is present before conception.
Life does not begin at conception.
True, but irrelevant twaddle.
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
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| User: "Adam H." |
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26 Jun 2004 12:57:24 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:37:44 -0600, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote:
Adam H. wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:52:37 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:50:20 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
<snipping Flowerpower's normal ranting and anger>
Steenkin Man,
Want to see a pro-aborts argument killed immediately.
Many of these pro-aborts, like Flowerpower (watch Flowerpower try and switch
the subject of this post in her reply in order to avoid what follows)
Will say that life doesn't begin at conception.
Flowerpower, show us any credible evidence supported by science that will
agree life doesn't begin at conception.
There you go Steenkin Man,
That kills their argument.
Excellent work.
You provoked a lot of hysterical screaming, especially from those
inclined to abuse drugs, but not one could produce a coherent argument
against you. Some of them struggled to produce a coherent sentence.
I'm a bit worried about the mental health of FlowerlessPowerless. She
seems to be deteriorating very rapidly.
Snicker. That whole argument is efficiently derailed by the simple
process of pointing out that dead sperm and eggs don't work.
Therefore, life is present before conception. Now, Bobby loves to move
the goalposts and waffle on about a *new* life when that's pointed
out, and yet he comes back to the same tired dogma - lack of
imagination, I surmise.
But dead sperm and eggs don't work. Life is present before conception.
Life does not begin at conception.
True, but irrelevant twaddle.
Yes, the 'life begins at conception' *is* irrelevant twaddle. You
should remind those who persist in bringing it up as if it means
something of that.
---
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Bob" |
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26 Jun 2004 02:09:21 PM |
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Adam H. wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:37:44 -0600, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote:
Adam H. wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:52:37 +0100, Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:50:20 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
<snipping Flowerpower's normal ranting and anger>
Steenkin Man,
Want to see a pro-aborts argument killed immediately.
Many of these pro-aborts, like Flowerpower (watch Flowerpower try and switch
the subject of this post in her reply in order to avoid what follows)
Will say that life doesn't begin at conception.
Flowerpower, show us any credible evidence supported by science that will
agree life doesn't begin at conception.
There you go Steenkin Man,
That kills their argument.
Excellent work.
You provoked a lot of hysterical screaming, especially from those
inclined to abuse drugs, but not one could produce a coherent argument
against you. Some of them struggled to produce a coherent sentence.
I'm a bit worried about the mental health of FlowerlessPowerless. She
seems to be deteriorating very rapidly.
Snicker. That whole argument is efficiently derailed by the simple
process of pointing out that dead sperm and eggs don't work.
Therefore, life is present before conception. Now, Bobby loves to move
the goalposts and waffle on about a *new* life when that's pointed
out, and yet he comes back to the same tired dogma - lack of
imagination, I surmise.
But dead sperm and eggs don't work. Life is present before conception.
Life does not begin at conception.
True, but irrelevant twaddle.
Yes, the 'life begins at conception' *is* irrelevant twaddle. You
should remind those who persist in bringing it up as if it means
something of that.
Ask me if I give a *****
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
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| User: "Ken&Laura Chaddock" |
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26 Jun 2004 09:43:43 PM |
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Osprey wrote:
"Flower Power" <LiberateTheWomen@thisNGs.net> wrote in message
news:6IudneXCy-ylNkHd4p2dnA@heartoftn.net...
"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2k36sgF17kvc2U1@uni-berlin.de...
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:57:55 -0500, "Flower Power"
<LiberateTheWomen@thisNGs.net> wrote:
"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2k2ep1F15l31aU1@uni-berlin.de...
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:11:39 -0500, "Flower Power"
<SS-GruppenFuhrer@thisNGs.net> wrote:
Abortion is legal - remember?
Putting people in death camps was legal - remember?
## PEOPLE are not globs of unwanted cells. Do you suggest we stop
removing tumors from people since they're human cells as well?
You're using the same arguments that were used to put people in the
death camps: "These are not really humans, so it's all right to kill
them. We even have a law that says it's OK to kill them."
<snipping Flowerpower's normal ranting and anger>
Steenkin Man,
Want to see a pro-aborts argument killed immediately.
Many of these pro-aborts, like Flowerpower (watch Flowerpower try and switch
the subject of this post in her reply in order to avoid what follows)
Will say that life doesn't begin at conception.
Flowerpower, show us any credible evidence supported by science that will
agree life doesn't begin at conception.
There you go Steenkin Man,
That kills their argument.
Sorry Osprey...doesn't even come close because it's IRRELEVANT when
"life" begins...that's NOT the issue, the issue is whether an individual
has the right to be secure within their own body and has sovereign
control what happens to that body.
This is a VERY important question since the ONLY way to
constitutionally deny abortion rights to woman is to deny security of
person rights to EVERYONE and to deny that as a RIGHT is the thin edge
of a VERY nasty wedge which could easily lead to things like forced
organ harvesting...how would YOU like to have a medical recovery team
show up at your door one morning to take you into custody because
someone needs a kidney and YOU are a perfect tissue match...whether you
want to donate a kidney or not ?
That's the door that this wedge can force open...would you REALLY like
that sort of a world ?
....Ken
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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25 Jun 2004 08:11:22 PM |
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Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:57:55 -0500, "Flower Power"
<LiberateTheWomen@thisNGs.net> wrote:
"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2k2ep1F15l31aU1@uni-berlin.de...
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:11:39 -0500, "Flower Power"
<SS-GruppenFuhrer@thisNGs.net> wrote:
Abortion is legal - remember?
Putting people in death camps was legal - remember?
## PEOPLE are not globs of unwanted cells. Do you suggest we stop removing
tumors from people since they're human cells as well?
You're using the same arguments that were used to put people in the
death camps: "These are not really humans, so it's all right to kill
them. We even have a law that says it's OK to kill them."
So you're the same as a Nazi for all of the killing that YOU do?
You use the same arguments in order to justify enslaving pregnant
women. You use the same sleazy propaganda tactics the Nazis did,
accusing others of what YOU advovate.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Harry Ballsac.1a.. Harry" |
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25 Jun 2004 10:04:14 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Steenkin Man <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:57:55 -0500, "Flower Power"
<LiberateTheWomen@thisNGs.net> wrote:
"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2k2ep1F15l31aU1@uni-berlin.de...
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:11:39 -0500, "Flower Power"
<SS-GruppenFuhrer@thisNGs.net> wrote:
Abortion is legal - remember?
Putting people in death camps was legal - remember?
## PEOPLE are not globs of unwanted cells. Do you suggest we stop
removing
tumors from people since they're human cells as well?
You're using the same arguments that were used to put people in the
death camps: "These are not really humans, so it's all right to kill
them. We even have a law that says it's OK to kill them."
So you're the same as a Nazi for all of the killing that YOU do?
Ray you are a socilaist feminist nazi, the only thing is, your just too
stupid to know it...
You use the same arguments in order to justify enslaving pregnant
women. You use the same sleazy propaganda tactics the Nazis did,
accusing others of what YOU advovate.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!" |
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25 Jun 2004 07:51:37 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:57:20 +0100,
Anonymous coward, "Steenkin Man" [A **very** appropriate
alias for such a hateful sociopath] <me@privacy.net> wrote:
"Flower Power" <SS-GruppenFuhrer@thisNGs.net> wrote:
Abortion is legal - remember?
Putting people in death camps was legal -- remember?
Yep. Apples and oranges. The ONLY **people** that are affected
by abortion are the women who BENEFIT from that valuable remedy,
and are thus enabled to immediately put their lives back on track, and
have their well-being and full range of future opportunities restored
to PRE-ill-timed-pregnancy levels.
Then the law got changed back again and the killers were
put on trial.
(One just has to feel very sorry for people who are abjectly
ignorant enough to be unable to sistinguish between PEOPLE, and the
equivalent, in all important ways, of the gametes (sperm and ova) that
they hypocritically DON'T try to defend, even though the latter are
electively aborted at the rate of a QUADRILLION per day, worldwide.)
Many parents choose abortion rather than a short painful
life for their potential child.
"Parents" don't choose anything, mothers do.
Wrong. To BE a "mother," a woman first has to give BIRTH. Until
then, she's no more a "mother" than she is by virtue of being a woman
whose ovaries contain eggs.
Being a mother doesn't give you the right to kill your baby.
You're right. So why not transport your ignorant and whiney butt
over to alt.infanticide, where you at least will be ON-topic, and will
stand a far better chance of not making quite such a total fool of
yourself? Then you can discuss Susan Smith, and the handful of
other mothers who've done that.
Why does that bother you so much?
I don't like children being killed.
Fine. Nether does anyone else. Suggest that you take your
whines to alt.infanticide, for the reason given above. (Or continue
to be LAUGHED at, a whole lot.)
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
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| Title: Abortion Macht Frei? |
25 Jun 2004 03:09:02 PM |
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(GOOD RIDDANCE on Nov. 2nd to Dishonest Warmonger-in-Thief G.W. Bush!) wrote in message news:<40dd1cbf.75568706@netnews.mchsi.com>...
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:57:20 +0100,
Anonymous coward, "Steenkin Man" [A **very** appropriate
alias for such a hateful sociopath] <me@privacy.net> wrote:
"Flower Power" <SS-GruppenFuhrer@thisNGs.net> wrote:
Abortion is legal - remember?
Putting people in death camps was legal -- remember?
Yep. Apples and oranges. The ONLY **people** that are affected
by abortion are the women who BENEFIT from that valuable remedy,
and are thus enabled to immediately put their lives back on track, and
have their well-being and full range of future opportunities restored
to PRE-ill-timed-pregnancy levels.
Sorry, Psycho Chilton, but it's not apples and oranges and the analogy
is right on target. Do you think the Germans went about systematically
killing the Jews just for the hell of it? Killing 6,000,000 people,
even if you enjoy your work, is no easy task. Of course they thought
they were going benefit from their deaths, otherwise why take on this
logistical nightmare? From their point of view, they, too, felt they
were putting their lives back on track, and that of the entire German
populace.
However, what's key here is not what the Germans felt or benefits they
stood to gain from these murders. This was their "remedy" as well.
Similarly, what the woman wants cuts no ice either, for if we take
your reasoning out to its natural conclusion, in like manner we can
make the same argument for any other individual or collective murders
by virtue of the fact that some kind of "benefit" is common to all of
them.
Marie Antoinette
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| User: "Bobs Boyfriend" |
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25 Jun 2004 11:38:28 PM |
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In article <82171f47.0406251209.65262c9d@posting.google.com>,
(Marie Antoinette) wrote:
Sorry, Psycho Chilton, but it's not apples and oranges and the analogy
is right on target. Do you think the Germans went about systematically
killing the Jews just for the hell of it? Killing 6,000,000 people,
even if you enjoy your work, is no easy task. Of course they thought
they were going benefit from their deaths, otherwise why take on this
logistical nightmare? From their point of view, they, too, felt they
were putting their lives back on track, and that of the entire German
populace.
That's rather vague. While you offered the reason of "putting their life
on track" as a reason, you didn't quite explain the rationale for what
the benefits for the German populace were at that time.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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25 Jun 2004 08:10:07 PM |
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Marie Antoinette <apres_moi_le_deluge@linkedto.nulluser.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com
Abortion is legal - remember?
Putting people in death camps was legal -- remember?
Yep. Apples and oranges. The ONLY **people** that are affected
by abortion are the women who BENEFIT from that valuable remedy,
and are thus enabled to immediately put their lives back on track, and
have their well-being and full range of future opportunities restored
to PRE-ill-timed-pregnancy levels.
Sorry, Psycho Chilton, but it's not apples and oranges and the analogy
is right on target.
Who would have suffered if the Jews had been set free?
Women aren't your property. Deal with it.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Osprey" |
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25 Jun 2004 08:34:53 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <> wrote in message
news:cbiide$nq3$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Marie Antoinette <apres_moi_le_deluge@linkedto.nulluser.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com
Abortion is legal - remember?
Putting people in death camps was legal -- remember?
Yep. Apples and oranges. The ONLY **people** that are affected
by abortion are the women who BENEFIT from that valuable remedy,
and are thus enabled to immediately put their lives back on track, and
have their well-being and full range of future opportunities restored
to PRE-ill-timed-pregnancy levels.
Sorry, Psycho Chilton, but it's not apples and oranges and the analogy
is right on target.
Who would have suffered if the Jews had been set free?
Women aren't your property. Deal with it.
But you think they are yours.
From: (Ray Fischer)
Message-ID: <bmm2gq$2f6$1@bolt.sonic.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:21:46 GMT
"Because everybody knows that women _should_ suffer for sex."
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
Ray Fischer said to Diva (another female poster in this newsgroup on 22
April 2003)
From: (Ray Fischer)
Message-ID: <b8283v$jqn$1@bolt.sonic.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 02:06:56 GMT
"And you should shut-up and attend to your RESPONSIBILITIES
around the home."
"Then why the hell aren't you taking care of him instead of wasting
your time blathering about things you don't understand?"
"Get back to work, woman. Make yourself useful."
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Marie Antoinette <apres_moi_le_deluge@linkedto.nulluser.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com
Abortion is legal - remember?
Putting people in death camps was legal -- remember?
Yep. Apples and oranges. The ONLY **people** that are affected
by abortion are the women who BENEFIT from that valuable remedy,
and are thus enabled to immediately put their lives back on track,
and
have their well-being and full range of future opportunities restored
to PRE-ill-timed-pregnancy levels.
Sorry, Psycho Chilton, but it's not apples and oranges and the analogy
is right on target.
Who would have suffered if the Jews had been set free?
Women aren't your property. Deal with it.
But you think they are yours.
It's amazing how the feminazi's think they speak for all women, but I
laughed when a couple of my women friends said they like to ***** slap these
feminazi's and knock some common sense into there heads, then I thought, wow
these feminiazi's are making more enemy's then they really want to...even
from women....
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"Harry Ballsac.1a.." <Harry
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Marie Antoinette <apres_moi_le_deluge@linkedto.nulluser.com> wrote:
xanadu222@mchsi.com
Abortion is legal - remember?
Putting people in death camps was legal -- remember?
Yep. Apples and oranges. The ONLY **people** that are
affected
by abortion are the women who BENEFIT from that valuable remedy,
and are thus enabled to immediately put their lives back on track,
and
have their well-being and full range of future opportunities
restored
to PRE-ill-timed-pregnancy levels.
Sorry, Psycho Chilton, but it's not apples and oranges and the
analogy
is right on target.
Who would have suffered if the Jews had been set free?
Women aren't your property. Deal with it.
But you think they are yours.
It's amazing how the feminazi's think they speak for all women,
* Show us the statistic proving MOST women want to go back to the days
BEFORE women had any rights. Inquiring Usenet minds what to know.
but I
laughed when a couple of my women friends said they like to ***** slap
these
feminazi's
* If they're talking about ASSAULTING other women with slaps, then they're
as liberated as any other women. Open your eyes. LOL!!!!
and knock some common sense into there heads,
* Meaning women should BEG men to remove all their rights! You must be
drinking some strong stuff....
then I thought, wow
these feminiazi's are making more enemy's then they really want to...even
from women....
* Enemies? Who would want unbalanced, mentally disturbed friends who
assault and *****-slap people who disagree with them? I bet they wait
outside the churches to *****-slap the parishioners of different faiths....
too funny!!! LOL!!!
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Flower Power........
One women dies giving birth every 30 minutes in Afghanistan.
Do they also warn women of the dangers of term pregnancy and
birth?.......like:
http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml
http://www.imnotsorry.net/
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
The risk of death associated with childbirth is about 11 times as high as
that associated with abortion.27
http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00054602.htm
http://www.afterabortion.org/news/deaths_smj.html
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"Flower Power" <LiberateTheWomen@thisNGs.net> wrote in message
It's amazing how the feminazi's think they speak for all women,
* Show us the statistic proving MOST women want to go back to the days
BEFORE women had any rights. Inquiring Usenet minds what to know.
Most feminist from the beginning have now jumped ship because they know you
idiots can't read let alone have any brains,
What was happening in the world of feminism were groups of left leaning
white middle class women gathering together to hate men. And flower Power
your stupidity is right up there with someone who going to grow up one day
and see what a moron you were.
From the Personal to the Political What is the Women's Movement for?
By Erin Pizzey
mailto:
December, 2000
One of the most interesting debates in the new century might well be the
question of how and why the women's movement in the Western world was
founded? Did it, as many of the women journalists explained, rise from the
needs of the oppressed women of the world? Or was it manufactured by leftist
women tired of being relegated to the role of 'chief cook and bottle
washers' in the kitchens of their revolutionary lovers? According to Susan
Brownmiller in her excellent history of the women's movement, In Our Time
Memoir of a Revolution,1 the women's movement was founded in New York after
many of the female activists returned from Mississippi after attempting to
help black people register their votes. The men in the revolutionary
movements who expected them to take inferior roles hugely discouraged the
women activists. The famous quote from Stokely Carmichael when asked about
the position of women in the forthcoming revolution was: "What is the
position of women in SNCC (Student Non violent Co- ordination Committee)?
The position of women in SNCC is prone.' Thereby precipitating a revolution
the outcome of which, even the most dedicated of Black Panthers would be
unable to imagine.
I joined this amorphous movement in 1971 when Jill Tweedie and other left
wing journalists were writing in newspapers and magazines that what women
needed were several very sensible demands. There was a national sigh of
relief from millions of women in Britain whose only reading matter was
filled with cooking and knitting patterns. With the exception of SHE
magazine which was run by the redoubtable lesbian Nancy Spain, most of us
were lectured on how to be perfect housewives.
The Guardian gave details of how to contact this new, exciting, liberation
movement for women and I telephoned the main telephone number in London and
was directed to my local group in Chiswick. I left my husband facing his
first night of baby sitting the children and set off for my meeting. I was
less than impressed to find myself in a very big house hosted by a small
woman with a sharp tongue. If I thought I was going to join a movement that
was going to lessen my isolation with my two small children I was wrong.
'Your problem is not you isolation,' I was told. 'Your problem is your
husband, he oppresses you.' I looked at the other white middle class women
in the room with me and tried not to blush. We were also told that we were
to call ourselves a collective, to refer to each other as 'comrades' and pay
three pounds ten to join the Women's Liberation Movement. There were posters
of fierce women waving guns over their head and a very large portrait of
Chairman Mao on the wall. The violence of the posters upset me and because I
was a child born in 1939 - a child born into a terrible war.
I was born in China in 1939. My father was working in the Consular Service.
Both parents were friends of Chaing Kai Check who was exiled to Taiwan by
the communists. My parents and my brother who returned to China in 1942 were
captured by the communists and put under house arrest for several years. My
twin sister and myself believed them to be dead. My father's hatred and
disgusts for any totalitarian regime left its mark on me and I was offended
by what I saw as a manipulative attempt for the local communist party to add
my three pounds ten shillings to their account.
Still I passionately believed that women in this country needed a place to
meet and to organize in their local areas. I was aware of a huge group of
isolated women many of whom had invaluable natural gifts and some work
experiences that we could use to work in our own communities. I braved the
hostility towards my high heels and my make up in the women's liberation
office and took over the typing.
I didn't last long. What I saw happening were groups of left leaning white
middle class women gathering together to hate men. Their slogan was 'make
the personal political.' What I saw happening was that the most vociferous
and the most violent of the women took their own personal damage, their
anger against their fathers and expanded their rage to include all men. Many
of these women were 'trust fund bunnies' meaning that they lived of their
rich father's money. What made the movement so immediately violent, was the
fact that it was founded in England by American women who were on the run
from the FBI. This was not the first time America exported its
revolutionaries. Trotsky was deported along with other revolutionary's years
before. Some went to Germany to join the Badermeinhof group. Others went to
Holland to join the Red Stockings and some chose to come to England. England
seemed destined to become the revolutionary hot bed for terrorists all over
the world, Beirut- by - Thames. I was at a BBC party when the taxpayers
shelled out to pay for all the famous revolutionaries to be flown in from
across the world to make a BBC program. I watched 'Danny The Red,' argue
with the sweating producer that he wanted bigger expenses and a more
comfortable hotel. Kenneth Tynan told me that we should take over the BBC
and launch the revolution ourselves. I was also forced to attend a tedious
lecture where Bernadette Devlin harangued us and various black panthers gave
salutes. A row of BBC would be revolutionaries raised their pallid fists in
reply. In 1970 terrorist women from groups everywhere poured into London for
the first women's liberation March but by this time I was becoming far more
politically aware.
I stood up in many of the violent and threatening collectives to tell the
leaders of this movement that hating all men was not anything that I wanted
to be part of. I told them that I considered my life a luxury. I had a
husband who went to work and paid the mortgage so that I could stay home
with my two children. I reminded them that most people were slaves. I
reminded them of the murderous regimes of Mao and of Stalin but of course
many of those women were followers of both Mao and Stalin. Their attitude
was that if thirty million died for the cause of the revolution so be it. I
was hated with a passion and finally ironically, excluded from the
liberation movement.
The Beginning Of The Women's Refuge Movement - and Its Capture
I left to open a small community centre for women and their children so that
my vision of the lessening of the isolation found in the Western world due
to the breaking down of the extended family. For many months this little
community centre for women and their children attracted all sorts of women
eager to have a place where they could use their abilities and entertain
their children. Very soon women who avoided the statutory services came to
us and we befriended them. Then one day a woman came in to the little
upstairs office and took off her jersey. She her body was streaked with
black and purple bruising. 'My husband beats me,' she said. I took her home
that night rather than leave her on her own. However, from the very
beginning I was aware of the violence of some of the women coming into my
refuge. By this time I had attracted the two things the women's movement
wanted: a just cause to clothe their political agenda and money to fund this
agenda. By 1972 the women's movement had run out of money. Ordinary English
women were far too intelligent and educated to want to be included into a
movement that so obviously desired to destroy the family and men. Only the
very isolated pockets of women living in areas like grizzly Islington and
Kew, refused to let their boy children have any male toys, and boasted that
their husbands or lovers had now been changed over night into 'new men.' The
rest of us accepted that men would always be men and any help in the house
was gratefully accepted.
While the bras burning antics of the women's movement became a stock joke of
television and in newspapers, the movement slid into obscurity except in
certain newspapers and in the academic circles. Here the misandry of the
women's movement found its exponents amongst untenured women professors.
They created a whole new discipline called 'Women's Studies' and brain-
washed generations of young women coming into Universities.
I found schools filled with 'teachers,' who were not teachers but political
activists. I went to Universities to lecture and was roundly berated when I
pointed out that 62 of the first hundred women who came into the refuge were
as violent as the men they left. I addressed public meetings and talked
about 'battered men.' Since 'Domestic Violence,' was considered a 'female'
issue it was women journalists who covered the subject. If I tried to
interest newspapers in publish my views, I came up again the same problem. I
was in the hands of women editors who refused to allow me to air my views.
Things were no better in the publishing field; editors routinely censor
books especially the radical lesbian editors. There was, and still is, a
strict censorship against anyone trying to break the code of silence. No one
wants to acknowledge the extent of the damage that the feminist movement has
done to the family and to men in the last thirty years.
Over the last thirty years I saw great corruption in the English courts. I
saw fathers of children denied their rights and persecuted. I have seen our
own government concur to a television advertisement on Scottish television
where children were advised to contact a telephone number should their
fathers shout and their mothers. I had a very early memory of a small girl
of my own age who also lived in China during the time of the communist take
over, denounce her father who was taken from the family and tortured for
seven years. I watched as the 'consciousness raising groups,' which again
reminded me of Mao's teachings spread, like a rash over the Western world
designed to brain- wash women into believing that their husbands were the
enemy and must be eradicated from the family. I saw the rise of the single
parent mother glorified in the women's sections of some newspapers. Four
women journalists wrote about their search for the right man to give them
their children and the four women promised their readers that the children
would never even know their fathers. I felt that these rich privileged women
journalists were acting irresponsibility, by now I was divorced from my
husband and I was a single parent mother and suffered the anxiety and the
loneliness of bringing up children on my own.
Most of all I saw feminist women teachers discriminate against the boys in
their classrooms. I saw the huge tide of women pouring into the work force
hungry for jobs and careers. Many had no choice. Financial hardship made it
imperative for both partners to work. In spite of promises there was no
national childcare plan so illegal and often dangerous attempts were made by
other women to take in children. Men, free of any restraint by the birth
pill demanded sex whenever they wanted it and then many ran away from the
subsequent pregnancies. London became not only the abortion capital of the
world but also had the highest level of teenage births in the West. Men
turned their backs on marriage and commitment many fearing quite rightly,
that whatever commitment they offered would end up with women fleecing them
for the rest of their lives.
Ostracism Around The Globe
In 1977 congresswoman Lindy Boggs and Congressman Newton-Steer invited me to
a luncheon of honour on Capitol Hill. I realized by now that what I was
going to say was going to make me deeply unpopular. Everyone who came to
meet me always assumed quite wrongly that I was a 'feminist.' I was nothing
of the sort. I have always disbelieved in 'ists' of any sort and the only
way I am willing to define myself is as 'a lover of God in all his aspects.'
By the end of my speech everyone at the table was avoiding me and I faired
no better at the Press Club in Washington. The expression on the faces of
the hard-bitten women journalists was a source of amusement to me. Many of
my speaking engagements were cancelled especially in New York and Boston. I
spent a hilarious night with another member of staff in a communal lesbian
household of professors in Anne Arbour but I was very glad indeed to be
hosted in another city by a sweet young wife and mother. I could see then
that the feminist movement everywhere had hi-jacked the whole issue of
domestic violence to fulfil their political ambitions and to fill their
pockets. By now feminists in America and other countries were redrafting the
law. 'In the past decade, feminist legal theory has become a formidable
presence in many of America's top law schools. Feminist activism has also
had a major impact on many areas of the law, including rape, self-defense,
domestic violence, and such new legal categories as sexual harassment.
However, the ideology of legal feminism today goes far beyond the original
and widely supported goal of equal treatment for both sexes. The new agenda
is to redistribute power from the 'dominant class' (men) to the 'subordinate
class' (women), and such key concepts of Western jurisprudence as judicial
neutrality and individual rights are declared to be patriarchal fictions
designed to protect male privilege.'2
My sojourn in Germany at the invitation of the German Minister for Sport was
no different. I left some very grim looking German refuge workers at a
dinner table because I could no longer bear the future of what the refuges
were to become. I watched the feminist movement build its bastions of hatred
against men. Fortresses where women were to be taught that all men were
'rapists and bastards,' and the damage done to the children in the refuges
who were to learn that man were not to be trusted.
I was asked to visit New Zealand in 1978 and I'd hoped to be invited to
speak to groups of refuge in Australia. At that time New Zealand hadn't yet
fallen into the arms of the totalitarian women's movement (it has now), but
I was refused a visit to Australia because the militant lesbian movement
there had control of most of the refuges. Since, as in many other countries
the Lesbian movement was in control of most the financing, they merely
instructed the Australian refuges to withdraw their invitations.
To show how this movement had the power to censor information I will quote
one example amongst many. In 1984 I gave evidence in San Antonio to The
Texas Force on Family Violence. There was huge trepidation in the minds of
the various shelter groups who were gathered there to give their testimony.
Woman after woman gave her personal evidence. In some cases the evidence was
grim and dreadful. Those were the genuine victims of their partner's
violence. However, many of the women giving evidence gave a bravura
performance which elicited much clapping from the audience of excitable
sisters but puzzled the members of the Attorney General's Task Force. 'I
understand your grief,' one of the women members said to a particularly
histrionic woman. 'But you said this happened to you ten years ago? Don't
you think it is time you moved on?' She spoke for most of her task force who
were very puzzled by what they could see as a definite split between the
women who were genuinely giving evidence and the other who were violence
prone women who were not innocent victims of their partner's violence but
violent themselves. I gave my evidence about the differences between women
who were genuine battered women and those that were violent themselves and
needed treatment. The committee thanked me and I received a standing ovation
from the audience. When the report arrived at my home in Santa Fe, it
recorded one meaningless sentence and referred to me as 'Erin Shapiro
author.' Even though my written evidence was submitted in the name of Erin
Pizzey and my standing, as the founder of the refuge movement was well known
to everyone.
Women As Child-abusers
By this time I was working in Santa Fe, New Mexico on child abuse cases and
against pedophiles. Here is where I discovered that there were just as many
women pedophiles as there were men. Women go undetected as usual. Working
against pedophiles is a very dangerous business. I rescued a little British
girl from a female pedophile in Britain while I was in New Mexico. It took
three years of fighting against the English courts to rescue her and return
her to her parents. When the official solicitor finally telephoned me and
said I was right all alone, the child had been abused, I asked him if he was
going to prosecute the woman. 'No,' he said. Yet another woman got away and
is still getting away with abusing children.
During all these years that I worked and specialized in working with violent
women and their children, I could never come to terms with the fear men had
of violent women. I sat around dinner tables and in sitting rooms, listening
to the feminist women abusing the men they lived with. I saw some women
running what amounted to mini concentration camps behind their front doors.
I rarely ever saw a father stand up to a violent wife or lover. I hardly
ever saw a father stop his wife abusing the children. They would come to me
for help but when faced with an angry and violent partner the men stayed
quiet and tolerated the violence. Even now people laugh when a man says he
has been abused. I don't find any sort of abuse to any living thing a
laughing matter. I do feel that it is time that men recognized that women in
the last thirty years have made many changes. They have become much more
independent of men but men have not yet made that step themselves. It is
depressing when working with men to find them running out of one violent
relationship and then immediately looking for another woman to 'look after'
them. Men have to get used to the idea that they can look after themselves.
The younger generations of men seem to be aware of this male dependence upon
women and can and do live by themselves.
When I was in Santa Fe a man came to see me who had lost his children and
everything he owned because his little daughter had accused him of molesting
her. I knew from the moment he confessed that he was a womanizer that he
wasn't a child molester. After seeing the mother who was a violent and
manipulative narcissistic exhibitionist, I realized that she had instructed
the child to name her father. I could see from the behaviour of the child
that she had indeed been molested. Finally after three months of work with
her she told me that the molester was a man who lived across the road. This
man was a government official. When I took the evidence I had to the D.A's
office he refused to target the case. A state trouper who also tried to get
cases targeted me told me the DA was divorced on grounds of suspected child
molestation so I had no chance anyway. I knocked on all the doors of the
private houses I could find around his house and warned the neighbours. Many
of them knew but were to frightened of him to do anything. When I confronted
him he told me he was safe from prosecution because of his position and he
would move his family to Alaska were there was less chance of being
convicted. He had, like so many violent and dangerous men, married a bride
from the Philippines. She didn't dare say anything. Another little girl told
me that her father, his new wife, and a neighbour raped her every Saturday
afternoon during her access visit. I asked what hurt her the most about the
abuse and she said 'her nails they are very long at sharp in my...and she
pointed to her bottom. Those are the terrible details that confirm horrible
truths.
Part of the problem with men is that they do not want to accept that woman
and particularly the women they have loved can be just as evil as men can.
And yet we know that women perpetrate 60 per cent of all child abuse.
According to research from the NSPCC:
Over 75 per cent of perpetrators of child maltreatment were Parents, and an
additional ten per cent were other relatives of the Victim. It is estimated
that over 80 per cent of all perpetrators Were under age 40 and that almost
two-thirds (62 per cent) were Females.3
When I was in Canada for a six weeks lecture tour in 1999, I was appalled at
the fear I saw in men across this huge country. Sexual harassment cases at
work mean that there are virtually no more office parties. I met a very fine
professor who had been accused of sexual abuse of two of his students. He
said living in Canada was like living in a totalitarian state. Indeed it
was. I spoke to groups of men and women all over the country. Men there were
already feeling the heavy hand of the state taking away their rights to
their homes and their children. Men told stories of leaving the house to go
to work and returning to find the woman had 'hovered' the house which means
she had taken everything she could out of the house and disappeared with the
children into a refuge. The distraught fathers were unable to find their
wives and children because the refuges refused to disclose any information.
In some cases where the father was very violent it is a necessary precaution
but I never intended it to become routine so that many delinquent women
could use this recourse against totally innocent men. For a woman declaring
your partner violent is a known fast track to a divorce, if that isn't
sufficient women can now recourse to what is called 'the silver bullet.'
This means that she accuses her partner of sexually molesting the children.
He then is cut off from his home and his family immediately. I was speaking
to men's group in the West Country recently. Two police officers were at the
meeting. They agreed when I asked them about the truth of false sexual
abuse, they were indeed forced to take a father away from his family even
though was no evidence. In this case a woman had accused the child's father
of having 'interfered' with her in her bath. She called the police and he
was taken away immediately. Later he was released for lack of evidence. We
should have a law that allows innocent victims of such allegations to sue
their attackers.
The Neglect Of Abused Men
I find that men will not help each other the way women do. Men have had
thousands of years of conditioning that enables them to work together very
successfully but when it comes to organising the same sort of help over
their personal lives, they fall apart. I saw this happen when I tried to
open a men's refuge almost immediately after I bought the main Chiswick
building for the women's refuge. I had seen sufficient men who were horribly
abused and needed somewhere to go. What offended me was that even though the
Greater London Council were willing to give me an excellent building in
North London, I could not get one single fund raiser to help me raise money
for the men.
Now we do have men's groups running in most countries, but as yet they have
no funding when millions of pounds are given to the women's refuges some of
whom abuse the money they are given. We know we have huge problems with our
young men. For the last thirty years they have been discriminated against in
the media and in schools. These young men have been fed a diet of feminist
rhetoric that assures them that they are 'rapists' and 'batterers.' Those
were the placards that surrounded The Savoy Hotel when I was there for a
luncheon and the launch of my book Prone To Violence *3. This was my book
that catalogued my work with violence-prone women and their children. I was
used to the pickets because anywhere I spoke or appeared I was followed by
these hate filled women. I was aware that they held their secret conferences
that excluded men all over the world. They have infiltrated most large
institutions and the UN is filled with women who are determined to destroy
the family and marriage as an institution. They want the family to be
defined as women and children only. Men are to be sidelined. Their role as
fathers is to be used as sperm banks and wallets. Fortunately those of us,
who believe in marriage and in the necessity of children having both
biological parents in their lives if at all possible, have time on out side.
The women's movement is dying out as the elderly proponents now write books
recanting their misspent youth and totter to their graves.
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1 Susan Brownmillar, In Our Time Memoir of a Revolution The Dial Press, 1999
2 Michael Wiss and Cathy Young, Cato Institute police analysis paper @
Feminist Jurisprudence' @ <http://www.cato.org/pubs/pubs/pas/pa- 256.html>
3 Erin Pizzey and Jeff Shapiro, Prone To Violence Hamlyn Paperbacks 1982
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28 Jun 2004 02:48:40 AM |
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"Harry Ballsac.1a.." <Harry
Ballsac.1a..@the_national_socilaist_news_service.NDPP.gob> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <LiberateTheWomen@thisNGs.net> wrote in message
It's amazing how the feminazi's think they speak for all women,
* Show us the statistic proving MOST women want to go back to the days
BEFORE women had any rights. Inquiring Usenet minds what to know.
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Most feminist from the beginning have now jumped ship because they know
you
idiots can't read let alone have any brains,
$$ Can't read alone? Can't read WHAT alone? You must live in a some poor
and backward 3rd world nation. What do you mean they jumped ship? I've
seen nothing, read nothing and heard nothing about women trying to give up
their rights and go back to Victorian times.
What was happening in the world of feminism were groups of left leaning
white middle class women gathering together to hate men.
$$ You have a website covering these women who hate men and the reasons for
the hate? A Google search turned up nothing. I lived in the biggest city
in the USA and there were none of these groups there. None existed here
either. What country were they in?
Your usual juvenile, babyish insults snipped.
Please provide PROOF of these groups of men haters - not someone's insane
rant.
FP................
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27 Jun 2004 08:06:30 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:43:51 GMT, "Harry Ballsac.1a.." <Harry
Ballsac.1a..@the_national_socilaist_news_service.NDPP.gob> wrote:
"Flower Power" <LooseWomen@thisNGs.net> wrote in message
It's amazing how the feminazi's think they speak for all women,
* Show us the statistic proving MOST women want to go back to the days
BEFORE women had any rights. Inquiring Usenet minds what to know.
Most feminist from the beginning have now jumped ship because they know you
idiots can't read let alone have any brains,
From the Personal to the Political What is the Women's Movement for?
By Erin Pizzey
mailto:
December, 2000
The women's movement is dying out as the elderly proponents now write books
recanting their misspent youth and totter to their graves.
Yup, Flower Pot and her friends have had their day. They're on the way
out now, leaving better people to clean up their mess.
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num tibi mentireris?
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Flower Powers lost it beains with feminism |
28 Jun 2004 02:54:29 AM |
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"Steenkin Man" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2k7v3bF18li71U1@uni-berlin.de...
The women's movement is dying out as the elderly proponents now write
books
recanting their misspent youth and totter to their graves.
## Yep, all us in our 50s now are all tottering to the grave! LOL!!! :-)
Yup, Flower Pot and her friends have had their day. They're on the way
out now, leaving better people to clean up their mess.
## What mess? I see no women's groups in the USA fighting to give up
women's rights, and equality. Not one group turned up on Google trying to
change the laws to take away equal rights for women. Not one group/women
who claimed she/they wanted less pay than a man for the same job.... ???
Where are all these women who wish to return to Victorian times when women
had no rights???? Why are they hiding? Do they actually exist in some
foreign country???
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Flower Power.......
ANTI-Feminist definition: "Sick abusive controlling men" -->
adj. 1. A man who consistently supports
UNequal legal rights while opposing feminine equality.
2. Someone losing a debate with a feminist.
3. A woman who refuses to kowtow to ANTI-feminist propaganda.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Flower Powers lost it beains with feminism |
27 Jun 2004 09:13:54 AM |
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Steenkin Man wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:43:51 GMT, "Harry Ballsac.1a.." <Harry
Ballsac.1a..@the_national_socilaist_news_service.NDPP.gob> wrote:
"Flower Power" <LooseWomen@thisNGs.net> wrote in message
It's amazing how the feminazi's think they speak for all women,
* Show us the statistic proving MOST women want to go back to the days
BEFORE women had any rights. Inquiring Usenet minds what to know.
Most feminist from the beginning have now jumped ship because they know you
idiots can't read let alone have any brains,
From the Personal to the Political What is the Women's Movement for?
By Erin Pizzey
mailto:
December, 2000
The women's movement is dying out as the elderly proponents now write books
recanting their misspent youth and totter to their graves.
Yup, Flower Pot and her friends have had their day. They're on the way
out now, leaving better people to clean up their mess.
Indeed. The feminazis of her generation have ruined the lives of 50
million young women and a like number of young men, plus a hundred
million shcildrne. Their legacy is the greatest social disaster ever
recorded. The cleanup will be brutal.
Bob
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When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Bob & friends lost it beains with feminism |
28 Jun 2004 03:02:14 AM |
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"Bob" <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40DED622.7000908@hotmail.com...
Indeed. The feminazis of her generation have ruined the lives of 50
million young women and a like number of young men, plus a hundred
million shcildrne. Their legacy is the greatest social disaster ever
recorded. The cleanup will be brutal.
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Yes, you are a classic example of the child of a Nazi women. Filled with
angst, inner stress, resentments, social-failures, bitterness and depression
because you blame all your failings on a Nazi women. I can see why you feel
your mother destroyed your life. She did. I agree with you. She really
messed you up. How sad. She could have freed herself from Nazism had she
tried.
The cleanup? You all plan to commit mass suicide in the near future? Or
do you plan to murder all the women of your generation to "teach them a
lesson?" What will be so brutal that you have to keep mentioning it to make
yourself feel better? Explain why talking about the brutality makes you
feel so good.
FP....
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| User: "Harry Ballsac.1a.. Harry" |
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27 Jun 2004 02:04:10 PM |
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"Bob" <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40DED622.7000908@hotmail.com...
Indeed. The feminazis of her generation have ruined the lives of 50
million young women and a like number of young men, plus a hundred
million shcildrne. Their legacy is the greatest social disaster ever
recorded. The cleanup will be brutal.
Feminazi Political correctness poses a threat on free expression, and the
constitutional process. Let's call it it what it really is, thought control,
and political cleansing. Say didn't the Nazi's do the same to the jews, and
the only difference is they are taking it to a new level, political
cleansing on the male gender but after all as my website says THIS WEBSITE
HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO RED ALERT BECAUSE RADICAL FEMINISM IS A WEAPON OF MASS
DESTRUCTION THAT DESTROYS FAMILIES AND MEN.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Flower Powers lost it beains with feminism |
28 Jun 2004 03:04:15 AM |
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"Harry Ballsac.1a.." <Harry
Ballsac.1a..@the_national_socilaist_news_service.NDPP.gob> wrote in message
news:KSEDc.20246$E84.13461@edtnps89...
Feminazi Political correctness poses a threat on free expression, and the
constitutional process. Let's call it it what it really is, thought
control,
and political cleansing. Say didn't the Nazi's do the same to the jews,
and
the only difference is they are taking it to a new level, political
cleansing on the male gender but after all as my website says THIS WEBSITE
HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO RED ALERT BECAUSE RADICAL FEMINISM IS A WEAPON OF
MASS
DESTRUCTION THAT DESTROYS FAMILIES AND MEN.
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The ravings of a total PARANOID looking to blame someone else for HIS
failures. In this case,... women.
FP..........
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| User: "Harry Ballsac.1a.. Harry" |
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| Title: Re: Flower Powers lost it beains with feminism |
28 Jun 2004 12:21:46 PM |
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"Flower Power" <LiberatedWomen@Freedom.net> wrote in message
news:yYidnfHECNafTELdRVn-tA@heartoftn.net...
"Harry Ballsac.1a.." <Harry
Ballsac.1a..@the_national_socilaist_news_service.NDPP.gob> wrote in
message
news:KSEDc.20246$E84.13461@edtnps89...
Feminazi Political correctness poses a threat on free expression, and
the
constitutional process. Let's call it it what it really is, thought
control,
and political cleansing. Say didn't the Nazi's do the same to the jews,
and
the only difference is they are taking it to a new level, political
cleansing on the male gender but after all as my website says THIS
WEBSITE
HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO RED ALERT BECAUSE RADICAL FEMINISM IS A WEAPON OF
MASS
DESTRUCTION THAT DESTROYS FAMILIES AND MEN.
===============================
The ravings of a total PARANOID looking to blame someone else for HIS
failures. In this case,... feminazis.
Flower *****, the RED ALERT IS TAKE SERIOUS BECAUSE RADICAL FEMINISM IS A
WEAPON OF MASS
DESTRUCTION THAT DESTROYS FAMILIES AND MEN.
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| User: "EvilZak" |
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| Title: Re: Flower Powers lost it beains with feminism |
28 Jun 2004 04:57:21 AM |
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"Harry Ballsac.1a.." <Harry Ballsac.1a..@the_national_socilaist_news_service.NDPP.gob> wrote in message news:<KSEDc.20246$E84.13461@edtnps89>...
"Bob" <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40DED622.7000908@hotmail.com...
Indeed. The feminazis of her generation have ruined the lives of 50
million young women and a like number of young men, plus a hundred
million shcildrne. Their legacy is the greatest social disaster ever
recorded. The cleanup will be brutal.
Feminazi Political correctness poses a threat on free expression, and the
constitutional process. Let's call it it what it really is, thought control,
and political cleansing. Say didn't the Nazi's do the same to the jews, and
the only difference is they are taking it to a new level, political
cleansing on the male gender but after all as my website says THIS WEBSITE
HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO RED ALERT BECAUSE RADICAL FEMINISM IS A WEAPON OF MASS
DESTRUCTION THAT DESTROYS FAMILIES AND MEN.
You two are so hilarious as you try to fight your destiny. YOu are
both evolutionary dead ends: you will never breed, never have much of
a social life offline (well, apart from when you join one of those
militias full of other rejects unnaturally obsessed with the phallic
symbolism of their weaponry) and certainly neither of you will ever
hold down anything other than the most menial of jobs.
The mark of the moron is on you: blaming a whole category of human
beings for your personal, social and sexual inadequacies. Now take a
break from your keyboards and go and rub your tiny knobs over the
latest copy of Guns and Ammo for a while - you need a change of scene.
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| User: "Harry Ballsac.1a.. Harry" |
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| Title: Re: Flower Powers lost it beains with feminism |
28 Jun 2004 12:24:51 PM |
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