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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Craig Chilton"
Date: 10 May 2004 10:10:28 PM
Object: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!!
May 17, 2004 will be as glorious a day for America's gays (and
even the world's, by the wondrous and fair example we'll set), as
January 22, 1973 was for women! It will be the END of mindless
and hateful discrimination on the part of lowlife people who have
**never** even had a valid reason FOR being such bigots.
The slaveowners LOST, forevermore,
in 1865.
The segregationists LOST, forevermore,
in 1964-65.
The Anti-Choice morons LOST, forevermore,
on 1/22/73.
And the homophobic bigots are about to LOSE,
forevermore, on 5/17/04.
GOOD RIDDANCE to **all** of those now-EXTINCT and
soon-to-BE extinct worthless and sociopathic agendas.
Emancipation Day #4 is right around the corner!
Just *** 6 *** days to go!!!
Gays and their straight, egalitarian *allies* everywhere...
...PREPARE TO CELEBRATE!!!!
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User: "Bard Kesnit"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 01:05:35 PM
On Thu, 13 May 2004 16:09:32 GMT, Johnathan A.
<jappleseed@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 May 2004 01:45:58 GMT, Bard Kesnit
<vtcheme@hotmail.nospam..com> wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2004 22:10:01 GMT, UnfitKerry <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com>
wrote:

Bard Kesnit wrote:

IOW, it pretty much STRICTLY a gay disease,



Tell that to the thousands of people who died of AIDS from
heterosexual contact.




Better yet, tell it to the HUNDREDS of thousands of HOMOSEXUALS who died
of AIDS from HOMOSEXUAL contact.

Nice spin attempt, Bard. But nobody is buying your homosexual *****
any longer.


You are the one putting a spin on the numbers - claiming that
only gay men catch HIV/AIDS.


That's not the point...

Actually, that IS the point. UnfitKerry said I was spinning
the data. I just pointed out that he/she is as well, by claiming only
gay men get HIV.
If you go back and reread my posts, you'll see that I say
quite openly that gay men do account for just under half of HIV
infections. If I was trying to spin the data, I would leave that point
out. Everyone knows that gay men are a large vector for HIV. All I am
saying is that gay men are not the only vector for HIV.
Some heterosexuals believe your spin. They think that "only
gay men get AIDS." So they have unprotected sex and become HIV
positive. (These same people are also not as likely to get tested for
HIV - why should they since they aren't gay men, right. So they are
more likely to pass HIV to future partners.)
Gay men are the largest vector for HIV in the US. They are NOT
the only vector for the disease.
Bard Kesnit
.
User: "UnfitKerry"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 03:01:13 PM
Bard Kesnit wrote:

If you go back and reread my posts, you'll see that I say
quite openly that gay men do account for just under half of HIV
infections. If I was trying to spin the data, I would leave that point
out.

The way you tried to spin it was by not pointing out that even though
they account for that HUGE percentage of all AIDS cases, they only
account for about 1% of the population!
Admit it - homosexual males have a per-capita AIDS diseased rate ORDERS
OF MAGNITUDE higher than for normal, heterosexual people.
THAT is what you need to begin to be honest about, Krasnick.
.

User: "Johnathan A."

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 01:58:38 PM
On Thu, 13 May 2004 18:05:35 GMT, Bard Kesnit
<vtcheme@hotmail.nospam..com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 May 2004 16:09:32 GMT, Johnathan A.
<jappleseed@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 May 2004 01:45:58 GMT, Bard Kesnit
<vtcheme@hotmail.nospam..com> wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2004 22:10:01 GMT, UnfitKerry <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com>
wrote:

Bard Kesnit wrote:

IOW, it pretty much STRICTLY a gay disease,



Tell that to the thousands of people who died of AIDS from
heterosexual contact.




Better yet, tell it to the HUNDREDS of thousands of HOMOSEXUALS who died
of AIDS from HOMOSEXUAL contact.

Nice spin attempt, Bard. But nobody is buying your homosexual *****
any longer.


You are the one putting a spin on the numbers - claiming that
only gay men catch HIV/AIDS.


That's not the point...


Actually, that IS the point. UnfitKerry said I was spinning
the data. I just pointed out that he/she is as well, by claiming only
gay men get HIV.

If you go back and reread my posts, you'll see that I say
quite openly that gay men do account for just under half of HIV
infections. If I was trying to spin the data, I would leave that point
out. Everyone knows that gay men are a large vector for HIV. All I am
saying is that gay men are not the only vector for HIV.

Some heterosexuals believe your spin. They think that "only
gay men get AIDS." So they have unprotected sex and become HIV
positive. (These same people are also not as likely to get tested for
HIV - why should they since they aren't gay men, right. So they are
more likely to pass HIV to future partners.)

I doubt that you honestly think that any heterosexual
who is literate and not an IV drug abuser believes
that he/she could not be infected with HIV/AIDS.

Gay men are the largest vector for HIV in the US. They are NOT
the only vector for the disease.

While they are a distinct minority in the general population of the
US, homosexuals and IV drug abusers make up the largest population of
those with HIV/AIDS. Additionally they lead the list of subcultures
that account for new cases of HIV/AIDS every year.

Bard Kesnit

.
User: "Bard Kesnit"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 04:41:06 PM
On Thu, 13 May 2004 18:58:38 GMT, Johnathan A.
<jappleseed@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 May 2004 18:05:35 GMT, Bard Kesnit
<vtcheme@hotmail.nospam..com> wrote:

If you go back and reread my posts, you'll see that I say
quite openly that gay men do account for just under half of HIV
infections. If I was trying to spin the data, I would leave that point
out. Everyone knows that gay men are a large vector for HIV. All I am
saying is that gay men are not the only vector for HIV.

Some heterosexuals believe your spin. They think that "only
gay men get AIDS." So they have unprotected sex and become HIV
positive. (These same people are also not as likely to get tested for
HIV - why should they since they aren't gay men, right. So they are
more likely to pass HIV to future partners.)


I doubt that you honestly think that any heterosexual
who is literate and not an IV drug abuser believes
that he/she could not be infected with HIV/AIDS.

Maybe, maybe nott. But with people like you and Unfit
screaming that HIV is a "gay disease," they are less likely to take
the necessary precautions.
When I was in college (which wasn't that long ago), there was
a poster in my dorm of an attractive man with the caption "Lady
Killer." The poster went on to remind people that HIV can be
transmitted via heterosexual contact.
Bard Kesnit
.



User: "Johnathan A."

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 12 May 2004 08:37:30 AM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 12:53:52 GMT, Bard Kesnit
<vtcheme@hotmail.nospam..com> wrote:

James Riske wrote:

In the U.S. filthy faggots represent the vast majority of hiv infections


Uh, no. Only about 50% of HIV/AIDS cases in the US can be
traced back to male-to-male sexual contact (141,411 vs. 281,931).

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1402/table8.htm

So much for your "vast majority. (And don't give me some
crackpot story that per capta, gay men cause more infections. That
isn't what you said.)

But that is a fact and you have to live (or more correctly DIE) with
it. The cards speak for themselves.

Bard Kesnit

.

User: "Johnathan A."

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 11 May 2004 08:24:33 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 21:02:13 -0400, "L. Michael Roberts"
<L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:

James Riske wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:58:35 -0400, L. Michael Roberts wrote:

Because Homosexual Males account for well over 50% of all cases of AIDS
in the United States,


Incorrect! Men who have sex with men account for around 46% of
HIV/AIDS cases [sorry I do not have the current exact number to hand but
I ma sure someone will correct me if I am wrong].
Men who have sex with Men [MSM} *includes* bi-sexuals, those who have
sex with men for money [prostitutes], and those who may be heterosexual
but due to circumstances [incarceration] have sex with other men or who
are raped by men. Thus the MSM category are NOT all homosexuals. But
don't let a few facts get in the way of your homophobic ranting.


What a load of pure *****, Liar Michael Roberts.

In the U.S. filthy faggots represent the vast majority of hiv infections


Post proof from a reputable and verifiable source.

Go to the CDC page and check it yourself you lazy shingle shucking
*****!

<snip>

.

User: "James Riske"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 11 May 2004 09:03:02 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 21:02:13 -0400, L. Michael Roberts wrote:

James Riske wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:58:35 -0400, L. Michael Roberts wrote:

Because Homosexual Males account for well over 50% of all cases of
AIDS in the United States,


Incorrect! Men who have sex with men account for around 46% of
HIV/AIDS cases [sorry I do not have the current exact number to hand
but I ma sure someone will correct me if I am wrong].
Men who have sex with Men [MSM} *includes* bi-sexuals, those who have
sex with men for money [prostitutes], and those who may be heterosexual
but due to circumstances [incarceration] have sex with other men or who
are raped by men. Thus the MSM category are NOT all homosexuals. But
don't let a few facts get in the way of your homophobic ranting.


What a load of pure *****, Liar Michael Roberts.

In the U.S. filthy faggots represent the vast majority of hiv
infections


Post proof from a reputable and verifiable source.

<snip>

Why couldn't you back *your* words up *****?
"Men who have sex with Men [MSM} *includes* bi-sexuals, those who have sex
with men for money [prostitutes], and those who may be heterosexual but
due to circumstances [incarceration] have sex with other men or who are
raped by men. Thus the MSM category are NOT all homosexuals. But don't
let a few facts get in the way of your homophobic ranting." -- Liar
Michael Roberts
Where does it say this on the CDC site? Go on *****, back your words for
once in your gutless, filthy life.
Now watch and learn from me how to substantiate claims, I will demonstrate
that filthy faggots represent the majority of hiv infections in the United
States.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1402/table10.htm
Here we see stats:
Male to male sexual contact (ie faggots) 171,592
Male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use (ie faggots who shoot
up) 23,495
Total: 195,087
Heterosexuals: 29,973
Unaccounted (don't know if they are faggots or not): 73,189
Heteros plus unaccounted: 103,162
The facts are quite clear, 195,087 to 103,162 with faggots in the lead.
Translation: Filthy faggots represent the vast majority of hiv infections
in the United States.
But lets not stop there, lets add the female stats and the children stats
as well.
Female adult or adolescent, subtotal: 82,764
Child(<13 yrs) , subtotal: 3,893
Total: 86,657
Combined hetero total: 189,819
***** total: 195,087
How humiliating!
So noted.
--
"Now I want you to remember that no ***** ever won a war by dying for his country.
You won it by making the other poor dumb ***** die for his country."
-- General George S. Patton, Jr.
.
User: "L. Michael Roberts"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 11 May 2004 11:24:16 PM
James Riske wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 21:02:13 -0400, L. Michael Roberts wrote:

James Riske wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:58:35 -0400, L. Michael Roberts wrote:

<snip>

In the U.S. filthy faggots represent the vast majority of hiv
infections


Post proof from a reputable and verifiable source.

<snip>


Why couldn't you back *your* words up *****?

"Men who have sex with Men [MSM} *includes* bi-sexuals, those who have sex
with men for money [prostitutes], and those who may be heterosexual but
due to circumstances [incarceration] have sex with other men or who are
raped by men. Thus the MSM category are NOT all homosexuals. But don't
let a few facts get in the way of your homophobic ranting." -- Liar
Michael Roberts

Where does it say this on the CDC site?

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/addendum/technical-note.htm

Go on *****,

Your assumption of my sexual orientation is noted and dismissed with
laughter.

back your words for
once in your gutless, filthy life.

The CDC web site at http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm uses the words
"Male-to-male sexual contact".

Now watch and learn from me how to substantiate claims, I will demonstrate
that filthy faggots represent the majority of hiv infections in the United
States.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1402/table10.htm

Here we see stats:
Male to male sexual contact (ie faggots) 171,592
Male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use (ie faggots who shoot
up) 23,495

Total: 195,087

Heterosexuals: 29,973
Unaccounted (don't know if they are faggots or not): 73,189

Heteros plus unaccounted: 103,162

The facts are quite clear, 195,087 to 103,162 with faggots in the lead.
Translation: Filthy faggots represent the vast majority of hiv infections
in the United States.

But lets not stop there, lets add the female stats and the children stats
as well.

Female adult or adolescent, subtotal: 82,764
Child(<13 yrs) , subtotal: 3,893

Total: 86,657
Combined hetero total: 189,819
***** total: 195,087

How humiliating!

So noted.

According to the chart "Cases by Exposure Category" [which reflects
"estimated numbers of diagnoses of AIDS in the United States through
December 2002."] at http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm#exposure, the
statistics reflect the distribution of the *estimated number* of
diagnoses of AIDS among adults and adolescents by exposure category as
follows:
Male-to-male sexual contact [gays and bisexuals] 420,790
Male-to-male sexual contact and IV drug use [gays & bis] 59,719
---------------------------------------------------------------
Total for male-to-male [M2M]cases [gays and bisexuals] 480,509
Injection Drug Use 240,268
Heterosexual contact 135,628
Other 20,869
-------------------------------
Total non M2M cases 396,765
Total of all AIDS cases [480,509 + 396,765] 877,274
So while the numbers you quoted above [195,087 faggots and 189,819 non
faggots] are incorrect or inconsistent when compared to the figures at
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm#exposure, you are still correct that a
slim majority of those with AIDS in the USA [83,744 or just over 10% of
the total cases] are M2M cases [gays and bisexuals].
As a scientist, I am accustomed to looking at facts and figures and
obviously the figures I quoted previously were incorrect - I apologise
for the error. In light of the data, which I re-posted above from
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm#exposure , I can agree with you that
the majority of AIDS cases in the USA are from male-to-male sexual contact.
However, the CDC itself says "Persons whose exposure category is
classified as male-to-male sexual contact include men who report sexual
contact with other men (i.e., homosexual contact) and men who report
sexual contact with both men and women (i.e., bisexual contact)." -
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/addendum/technical-note.htm Thus, my
statement that not all M2M sexual contacts are faggots [the CDC itself
says some are bisexuals] *is* correct. Since the CDC does not give the
breakdown of those who are bisexual and they are included in the M2M
category, it is possible that the total number of homosexuals [as
distinct from M2M contact cases], who are are infected with AIDS is
lower than the combined total of heterosexuals and bisexuals.
Unless/until the CDC breaks out the bisexuals and give separate stats,
it is impossible to state with authority the exact number/percentage of
homosexuals that are infected with AIDS and if they actually constitute
the majority of AIDS cases. What can be said with authority is that
presently the majority of AIDS cases can be tracked to M2M sexual contact.
BTW, now that I have retracted my previous incorrect statement as to
percentages and I agree that you [even if the figures you quoted are not
consistent with the ones I found] are correct, will you be apologising
any time soon for calling me a liar when I stated that M2M sexual
contact included bisexuals [see
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/addendum/technical-note.htm ]?
--
+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
+================================================================+
.
User: "L. Michael Roberts"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 02:04:37 PM
It has been more that 48 hours and I am still waiting for Riske to
apologise for calling me a liar when I said the CDC includes homosexual
and bisexuals in male-to-male sexual contacts [see below]. What is the
matter Riske? Not Man enough?
I made errors in my post and I was man enough to look over the source
figures and admit I was wrong [agreeing with you in the process]... and
you don't even have the common courtesy to act like a man, stand behind
your words and apologise when you are incorrect?
L. Michael Roberts wrote:

James Riske wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 21:02:13 -0400, L. Michael Roberts wrote:

James Riske wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:58:35 -0400, L. Michael Roberts wrote:



<snip>

In the U.S. filthy faggots represent the vast majority of hiv
infections



Post proof from a reputable and verifiable source.

<snip>



Why couldn't you back *your* words up *****?

"Men who have sex with Men [MSM} *includes* bi-sexuals, those who have
sex
with men for money [prostitutes], and those who may be heterosexual but
due to circumstances [incarceration] have sex with other men or who are
raped by men. Thus the MSM category are NOT all homosexuals. But don't
let a few facts get in the way of your homophobic ranting." -- Liar
Michael Roberts

Where does it say this on the CDC site?



http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/addendum/technical-note.htm

Go on *****,


Your assumption of my sexual orientation is noted and dismissed with
laughter.


back your words for
once in your gutless, filthy life.



The CDC web site at http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm uses the words
"Male-to-male sexual contact".


Now watch and learn from me how to substantiate claims, I will
demonstrate
that filthy faggots represent the majority of hiv infections in the
United
States.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1402/table10.htm

Here we see stats:
Male to male sexual contact (ie faggots) 171,592
Male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use (ie faggots who shoot
up) 23,495

Total: 195,087

Heterosexuals: 29,973
Unaccounted (don't know if they are faggots or not): 73,189

Heteros plus unaccounted: 103,162

The facts are quite clear, 195,087 to 103,162 with faggots in the lead.
Translation: Filthy faggots represent the vast majority of hiv infections
in the United States.

But lets not stop there, lets add the female stats and the children stats
as well.

Female adult or adolescent, subtotal: 82,764
Child(<13 yrs) , subtotal: 3,893

Total: 86,657
Combined hetero total: 189,819
***** total: 195,087

How humiliating!

So noted.



According to the chart "Cases by Exposure Category" [which reflects
"estimated numbers of diagnoses of AIDS in the United States through
December 2002."] at http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm#exposure, the
statistics reflect the distribution of the *estimated number* of
diagnoses of AIDS among adults and adolescents by exposure category as
follows:

Male-to-male sexual contact [gays and bisexuals] 420,790
Male-to-male sexual contact and IV drug use [gays & bis] 59,719
---------------------------------------------------------------
Total for male-to-male [M2M]cases [gays and bisexuals] 480,509


Injection Drug Use 240,268
Heterosexual contact 135,628
Other 20,869
-------------------------------
Total non M2M cases 396,765

Total of all AIDS cases [480,509 + 396,765] 877,274

So while the numbers you quoted above [195,087 faggots and 189,819
non faggots] are incorrect or inconsistent when compared to the figures
at http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm#exposure, you are still correct that
a slim majority of those with AIDS in the USA [83,744 or just over 10%
of the total cases] are M2M cases [gays and bisexuals].
As a scientist, I am accustomed to looking at facts and figures and
obviously the figures I quoted previously were incorrect - I apologise
for the error. In light of the data, which I re-posted above from
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm#exposure , I can agree with you that
the majority of AIDS cases in the USA are from male-to-male sexual contact.
However, the CDC itself says "Persons whose exposure category is
classified as male-to-male sexual contact include men who report sexual
contact with other men (i.e., homosexual contact) and men who report
sexual contact with both men and women (i.e., bisexual contact)." -
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/addendum/technical-note.htm Thus, my
statement that not all M2M sexual contacts are faggots [the CDC itself
says some are bisexuals] *is* correct. Since the CDC does not give the
breakdown of those who are bisexual and they are included in the M2M
category, it is possible that the total number of homosexuals [as
distinct from M2M contact cases], who are are infected with AIDS is
lower than the combined total of heterosexuals and bisexuals.
Unless/until the CDC breaks out the bisexuals and give separate
stats, it is impossible to state with authority the exact
number/percentage of homosexuals that are infected with AIDS and if they
actually constitute the majority of AIDS cases. What can be said with
authority is that presently the majority of AIDS cases can be tracked to
M2M sexual contact.

BTW, now that I have retracted my previous incorrect statement as to
percentages and I agree that you [even if the figures you quoted are not
consistent with the ones I found] are correct, will you be apologising
any time soon for calling me a liar when I stated that M2M sexual
contact included bisexuals [see
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/addendum/technical-note.htm ]?

--
+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
+================================================================+
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 14 May 2004 12:20:27 AM
"L. Michael Roberts" <L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote

It has been more that 48 hours and I am still waiting for Riske to
apologise for calling me a liar when I said the CDC includes
homosexual and bisexuals in male-to-male sexual contacts [see
below]. What is the matter Riske? Not Man enough?

That's a rhetorical question, right?
.




User: "James Riske"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 11 May 2004 06:28:42 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 03:10:28 +0000, Craig Chilton wrote:


May 17, 2004 will be as glorious a day for America's gays

<snip>
Are all queers going to perform a mass suicide that day?
Hell yes, lets celebrate!!
--

"Now I want you to remember that no ***** ever won a war by dying for his country.
You won it by making the other poor dumb ***** die for his country."
-- General George S. Patton, Jr.
.
User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 11 May 2004 09:07:04 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:28:42 -0400,
James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

May 17, 2004 will be as glorious a day for America's gays (and
even the world's, by the wondrous and fair example we'll set), as
January 22, 1973 was for women! It will be the END of mindless
and hateful discrimination on the part of lowlife people who have
**never** even had a valid reason FOR being such bigots.

The slaveowners LOST, forevermore,
in 1865.

The segregationists LOST, forevermore,
in 1964-65.

The Anti-Choice morons LOST, forevermore,
on 1/22/73.

And the homophobic bigots are about to LOSE,
forevermore, on 5/17/04.

GOOD RIDDANCE to **all** of those now-EXTINCT and
soon-to-BE extinct worthless and sociopathic agendas.

Emancipation Day #4 is right around the corner!

Just *** 5 *** days to go, as THIS is written!!!

Gays and their straight, egalitarian *allies* everywhere...

...PREPARE TO CELEBRATE!!!!

Are all queers going to perform a mass suicide that day?

No. Mass MARRIAGES!

Hell yes, lets celebrate!!

[[[ READERS: See the mentality of America's current crop of
bigots? The homophobes/RRR cultists/Anti-Choicers?
**You**, TOO can be just like them!! Drop lots of acid, do
lots of coke (since having a fried brain is pretty much a pre-
requisite for that; not ALL of them are *born* that retarded)...
and find a hateful fundie church to attend! You'll make it!
(However, I am confident that MOST people who read the
rants and raves of bigots like James Riske, "JFK," "Death,"
etc., etc. will have no trouble recognizing their loathsome
agendas as things that SANE people want NOTHING to
do with. Agendas that are for sociopaths, only.) ]]]
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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User: "James Riske"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 11 May 2004 09:14:20 PM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:07:04 +0000, Craig Chilton wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:28:42 -0400,
James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:



Are all queers going to perform a mass suicide that day?


No. Mass MARRIAGES!

Hell yes, lets celebrate!!


[[[ READERS: See the mentality of America's current crop of
bigots? The homophobes/RRR cultists/Anti-Choicers?
**You**, TOO can be just like them!! Drop lots of acid, do
lots of coke (since having a fried brain is pretty much a pre-
requisite for that; not ALL of them are *born* that retarded)...
and find a hateful fundie church to attend! You'll make it!
(However, I am confident that MOST people who read the
rants and raves of bigots like James Riske, "JFK," "Death,"
etc., etc. will have no trouble recognizing their loathsome
agendas as things that SANE people want NOTHING to
do with. Agendas that are for sociopaths, only.) ]]]

Tell us how you *really* feel you stupid *****.
--

"Now I want you to remember that no ***** ever won a war by dying for his country.
You won it by making the other poor dumb ***** die for his country."
-- General George S. Patton, Jr.
.
User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 11 May 2004 09:23:43 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:14:20 -0400,
James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Are all queers going to perform a mass suicide that day?

No. Mass MARRIAGES!

Hell yes, lets celebrate!!

[[[ READERS: See the mentality of America's current crop of
bigots? The homophobes/RRR cultists/Anti-Choicers?
**You**, TOO can be just like them!! Drop lots of acid, do
lots of coke (since having a fried brain is pretty much a pre-
requisite for that; not ALL of them are *born* that retarded)...
and find a hateful fundie church to attend! You'll make it!
(However, I am confident that MOST people who read the
rants and raves of bigots like James Riske, "JFK," "Death,"
etc., etc. will have no trouble recognizing their loathsome
agendas as things that SANE people want NOTHING to
do with. Agendas that are for sociopaths, only.) ]]]

Tell us how you *really* feel.

(See what I mean, folks? In lieu of the FACTS that they
have NONE of on their side, that's the BEST sort of thing that
that these sorry and ignorant loons can come up with. LOL!!!)
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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User: "Slate"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 11:32:38 AM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:23:43 GMT,
(Craig Chilton)
wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:14:20 -0400,
James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:



Are all queers going to perform a mass suicide that day?


No. Mass MARRIAGES!


Hell yes, lets celebrate!!


[[[ READERS: See the mentality of America's current crop of
bigots? The homophobes/RRR cultists/Anti-Choicers?
**You**, TOO can be just like them!! Drop lots of acid, do
lots of coke (since having a fried brain is pretty much a pre-
requisite for that; not ALL of them are *born* that retarded)...
and find a hateful fundie church to attend! You'll make it!
(However, I am confident that MOST people who read the
rants and raves of bigots like James Riske, "JFK," "Death,"
etc., etc. will have no trouble recognizing their loathsome
agendas as things that SANE people want NOTHING to
do with. Agendas that are for sociopaths, only.) ]]]


Tell us how you *really* feel.


(See what I mean, folks? In lieu of the FACTS that they
have NONE of on their side, that's the BEST sort of thing that
that these sorry and ignorant loons can come up with. LOL!!!)

Hey Craig, you are beating the preverbal "dead horse" with some
of these people. Their narrow views on this and other topics reflect
their upbringing, and I'm sure they'll raise their children the same
way. It's the very same mind-set that kept interracial marriages
illegal for so many years. It wasn't until 1967, that the Supreme
Court struck down bans on interracial marriage in all states. It will
be a great day when all people understand and support the words
"freedom" and equality" for all, but I doubt I'll see it in my
lifetime, if ever.
Slate
.



User: "Johnathan A."

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 12 May 2004 02:04:03 PM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:07:04 GMT,
(Craig Chilton)
wrote:

No. Mass MARRIAGES!

Right on!
.
User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 12 May 2004 07:24:48 PM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 19:04:03 GMT,
Johnathan A. <jappleseed@hotmail.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com> wrote:

Are all queers going to perform a mass suicide that day?

No. Mass MARRIAGES!

Right on!

Glad to see you finally AGREE that same-sex marriage should
become a reality. Did you grow a brain, or did someone forge you?

Hell yes, lets celebrate!!

[[[ READERS: See the mentality of America's current crop of
bigots? The homophobes/RRR cultists/Anti-Choicers?
**You**, TOO can be just like them!! Drop lots of acid, do
lots of coke (since having a fried brain is pretty much a pre-
requisite for that; not ALL of them are *born* that retarded)...
and find a hateful fundie church to attend! You'll make it!
(However, I am confident that MOST people who read the
rants and raves of bigots like James Riske, "JFK," "Death,"
etc., etc. will have no trouble recognizing their loathsome
agendas as things that SANE people want NOTHING to
do with. Agendas that are for sociopaths, only.) ]]]

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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User: "RainLover"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 12 May 2004 09:42:22 AM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:28:42 -0400, James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 03:10:28 +0000, Craig Chilton wrote:


May 17, 2004 will be as glorious a day for America's gays

<snip>


Are all queers going to perform a mass suicide that day?

Hell yes, lets celebrate!!

Ah yes... cheering for death and suicide. Very Christian of you, Mr. Riske.
James, Seattle
.
User: "Crazy Bastard"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 09:19:19 AM
"YellowRainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:isd4a0l3vc5upgiang4e5j598r7ldrt5rt@4ax.com...

On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:28:42 -0400, James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 03:10:28 +0000, Craig Chilton wrote:

May 17, 2004 will be as glorious a day for America's gays

<snip>
Are all queers going to perform a mass suicide that day?
Hell yes, lets celebrate!!

Ah yes... cheering for death and suicide. Very Christian of you, Mr.

Riske.
I fear much worse.
Picture this: A mass *****-fucking. Tens of thousands of rump riders,
discarding used condoms onto the street. A light Spring rain washes the
condoms into the sewer system. It backs up. A meaningful rain occurs,
water levels rise, and rise, and used condoms are floating around
everywhere. The Governor askd the EPA for help, who in turn asks the CDC to
coordinate the toxic cleanup.
I'm reminded of that song: Slip sliding away.......
.
User: "Citizen"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 15 May 2004 04:30:30 AM
Crazy ***** wrote:

"YellowRainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:isd4a0l3vc5upgiang4e5j598r7ldrt5rt@4ax.com...


On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:28:42 -0400, James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com>
wrote:


On Tue, 11 May 2004 03:10:28 +0000, Craig Chilton wrote:


May 17, 2004 will be as glorious a day for America's gays


<snip>
Are all queers going to perform a mass suicide that day?
Hell yes, lets celebrate!!


Ah yes... cheering for death and suicide. Very Christian of you, Mr.


Riske.

I fear much worse.

Picture this: A mass *****-fucking. Tens of thousands of rump riders,
discarding used condoms onto the street. A light Spring rain washes the
condoms into the sewer system. It backs up. A meaningful rain occurs,
water levels rise, and rise, and used condoms are floating around
everywhere. The Governor askd the EPA for help, who in turn asks the CDC to
coordinate the toxic cleanup.

I'm reminded of that song: Slip sliding away.......



0--------------
ahh... homphobia... take a wiff.
.

User: "Eddie :"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 10:53:00 PM
Hey guys my name is eddie i am a sophmore in highschool. I read about
this group on SSYGLB and how it is a good place for discussion which i
am always interested in. Today i guess you could say i was
enlightened. it wasnt by god or by a priest or monk not even a family
memeber. I am sure you all recently heard on the news or paper that a
young man from PA was beheaded in iraq. to be honest i didnt give it
much thought...i just said to myself that is what happens in a war and
we shouldnt be there anyway but thats beside the point. My friend
later instant messaged me about it and sent me the video of this man
being slaughtered by the masked terrorists. I couldnt help but cover
my mouth and widen my eyes. I wanted to cry but i felt it wouldnt
solve anything, at that moment i realized eveything that i have been
taking for granted. My family, my friends, even the people i dont like
or disagree with. i didnt come here to preach to you people but after
seeing what saw and then coming here for a somewhat healthy
conversation with this group and seeing posting with people saying
such horrible, degrading, superfluous things.. i cant help but feel
that we are no better than the terroists. we give ourselves a false
sense of power when we preach our views and close our minds off to
anything else...kind of a terrorist mentality dont you think? My
brother served one year in iraq and from now on i will thank god...the
same god that made me gay that he is here safe with a family that
loves him. I am frustrated and depressed at what i realized today...i
realized that we are the lowest life forms on this earth...i dont
think i have ever seen an animal kill another without survival in mind
but today i saw a human being killing another for a reason i dont
comprehend. thankyou and try to respect what i had to say even if u
disagree with it.
.
User: "RainLover"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 14 May 2004 08:08:36 AM
On 13 May 2004 20:53:00 -0700,
(Eddie :) wrote:

Hey guys my name is eddie i am a sophmore in highschool. I read about
this group on SSYGLB and how it is a good place for discussion which i
am always interested in. Today i guess you could say i was
enlightened. it wasnt by god or by a priest or monk not even a family
memeber. I am sure you all recently heard on the news or paper that a
young man from PA was beheaded in iraq. to be honest i didnt give it
much thought...i just said to myself that is what happens in a war and
we shouldnt be there anyway but thats beside the point. My friend
later instant messaged me about it and sent me the video of this man
being slaughtered by the masked terrorists. I couldnt help but cover
my mouth and widen my eyes. I wanted to cry but i felt it wouldnt
solve anything, at that moment i realized eveything that i have been
taking for granted. My family, my friends, even the people i dont like
or disagree with. i didnt come here to preach to you people but after
seeing what saw and then coming here for a somewhat healthy
conversation with this group and seeing posting with people saying
such horrible, degrading, superfluous things.. i cant help but feel
that we are no better than the terroists. we give ourselves a false
sense of power when we preach our views and close our minds off to
anything else...kind of a terrorist mentality dont you think? My
brother served one year in iraq and from now on i will thank god...the
same god that made me gay that he is here safe with a family that
loves him. I am frustrated and depressed at what i realized today...i
realized that we are the lowest life forms on this earth...i dont
think i have ever seen an animal kill another without survival in mind
but today i saw a human being killing another for a reason i dont
comprehend. thankyou and try to respect what i had to say even if u
disagree with it.

Hi Eddie, thanks for joining in.
Many here would say that humans aren't animals and are actually far above and
superior to animals, but your observation is well taken.
You're right. There are VERY few animals that kill for any reason other than
survival (house cats are the only animal that come to mind). War is a VERY
human invention and more animalistic than anything other animals do.
I also feel you're right about some here having the same mindset as the
terrorists... They are 100% sure they are right and will do whatever it takes
to impose their views on everyone, from mental abuse (of gays for example) to
outright terrorist acts (killing gays and doctors).
Do the people who do these things think they are terrorizing those they
determine are 'immoral' or not obeying their god? Of course not. They feel
justified and righteous in their opinions and actions... No different than
the terrorists currently threatening the USA from outside its boarders (as
opposed to what they do INSIDE its borders).
Don't be depressed about how that execution made you feel... it was a normal
reaction for anyone, and I think frustration over how humans are acting is
something EVERYONE in these newsgroups would actually agree on, so don't think
you're alone in that either.
I don't think humans are the lowest form of life on the planet, but at times,
we sure act like it, don't we? I think the problem is that humans think too
much.... They focus on the minutia, such as their religion, or governement, or
gays, or abortion and forget to take time to stand back and look at the Big
picture.. how we as humans fit into the world. How we, as humans, can live
together without bigotry and prejudices and hate and greed.
Someone just needs to say STOP IT ALREADY! (but, sadly, only a few will
listen)
James, Seattle
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User: "Poster Boy"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 01:41:40 PM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 07:42:22 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:28:42 -0400, James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 03:10:28 +0000, Craig Chilton wrote:


May 17, 2004 will be as glorious a day for America's gays

<snip>


Are all queers going to perform a mass suicide that day?

Hell yes, lets celebrate!!


Ah yes... cheering for death and suicide. Very Christian of you, Mr. Riske.

James, Seattle

I thought mass suicide was a trademark of the religious loons.
.

User: "Johnathan A."

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 12 May 2004 03:23:50 PM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 07:42:22 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:28:42 -0400, James Riske <james_riske@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 03:10:28 +0000, Craig Chilton wrote:


May 17, 2004 will be as glorious a day for America's gays

<snip>


Are all queers going to perform a mass suicide that day?

Hell yes, lets celebrate!!


Ah yes... cheering for death and suicide. Very Christian of you, Mr. Riske.

But, Buster, it's the AIDS spreading homos that are cheering the day!
More promiscuity more spreading of AIDS more homos don't make the 50th
birthday party. Life (and death in some cases) is good.

James, Seattle

Yes, James, Seattle is right up there with the best of them in homos
with AIDS;
HIV Incidence Among Young Men Who Have Sex With Men --- Seven U.S.
Cities, 1994--2000
Twenty years after the first report on human immunodeficiency virus
(HIV) infection in the United States, studies of sexually transmitted
diseases (STDs) and sexual behaviors suggest a resurgent HIV epidemic
among men who have sex with men (MSM) (1,2). However, few recent
studies have measured HIV incidence in this population (3--7). To
determine HIV incidence among young MSM, CDC analyzed data from the
Young Men's Survey (YMS), a study that found a high prevalence of HIV
and associated risks among MSM aged 15--22 years sampled in seven U.S.
cities (8). This report confirms high HIV incidence among these young
men.
YMS Phase I was a cross-sectional, multisite, venue-based sample
survey of men aged 15--22 years who attended public venues where young
MSM congregate (e.g., urban shopping blocks, dance clubs, bars, and
young gay organizations) (8). During the survey start-up in each city,
formative research was conducted to identify all venues frequented by
young MSM, and the days and times when young men frequented these
venues. A three-stage sampling plan was used to randomly select venues
from the sampling frame of venues and then to randomly select times.
Sampled venues and times were then scheduled for the third stage of
sampling in which young men were sampled at 194 venues in Baltimore,
Maryland; Dallas, Texas; Los Angeles, California; Miami, Florida; New
York, New York; San Francisco, California; and Seattle, Washington.
Eligible men (i.e., local residents aged 15--22 years) were recruited
for the survey. Participants were asked about their risk behaviors and
demographics, and counseled about and tested for HIV; blood specimens
were tested anonymously for HIV. Participants were scheduled to return
in 2 weeks for test results, posttest counseling, and service
referrals. Duplicate enrollees were removed from the database by
various screening methods, including the Miragen Assay, which profiles
antibodies. Because no association was found between frequency of
venue attendance and HIV prevalence, the data were not weighted
according to venue attendance.
An enzyme immunoassay was used to screen blood specimens for HIV
antibody. Repeatedly reactive specimens were confirmed by Western blot
or indirect immunofluorescence. To estimate HIV incidence, a serologic
testing algorithm was used to determine recent HIV seroconversion
(STARHS) (9). HIV-positive specimens were tested with a sensitive
HIV-1 whole viral lysate EIA (3A11) (Abbott, Abbott Park, Illinois)
that detects infection approximately 30 days after transmission.
Specimens that were 3A11-reactive were retested using the 3A11-LS
(less-sensitive), which detects HIV infection approximately 140 days
after the 3A11 (95% confidence interval [CI]=125--156 days). A
specimen that was 3A11-reactive but 3A11-LS-nonreactive was
categorized as a recent infection. Incidence was calculated using the
number of persons with recent infections as the numerator and the
number of persons with recent infections plus the number of persons
who were HIV-negative as the denominator. Incidence estimates were
adjusted for HIV-positive specimens that were not tested by STARHS.
Incidence was annualized to units of percent per year. All data were
analyzed using SAS version 6.12.
In the seven cities, 3492 young MSM enrolled (range for the seven
cities: 357--702 MSM) (8). The enrollment rate was 62% (range:
51%--75%). The prevalence of HIV infection was 7.2% (range:
2.2%--12.1%), increased with age, and was higher among blacks,
Hispanics, and men of mixed race than among whites or Asians/Pacific
Islanders (Figure 1). These findings and the high prevalence of
unprotected anal sex during the preceding 6 months (41%; range:
33%--49%) suggested that HIV incidence was high among these young men.
Of the 3449 young MSM tested, 249 were HIV-positive. Of the 249
HIV-positive specimens, 224 were tested by STARHS; 29 met the criteria
for recent infection (Table 1). HIV incidence was 2.6% overall, 3.5%
among persons aged 20--22 years, 4.0% among blacks, and 5.4% among men
of mixed race. Of the 29 persons with recent infections, 14 were from
New York City. HIV incidence was similar among homosexual and bisexual
men. Recent risk behaviors associated with high HIV incidence were
having >5 male sex partners during the preceding 6 months, having
unprotected anal sex with men, or having injected drugs.
During 1998--2000, YMS Phase II was conducted to sample MSM aged
23--29 years in six of the seven cities (excluding San Francisco).
Data are preliminary. Of the 2942 young MSM, 1409 (48%) were white,
651 (22%) were Hispanic, and 497 (17%) were black. Of these, 373 (13%)
were HIV-positive; HIV prevalence was 7% among whites, 14% among
Hispanics, and 32% among blacks. Of the 373 HIV-positive specimens,
290 were STARHS-tested; 38 were recent infections. Overall incidence
was 4.4% (95% CI=2.9%--6.7%); HIV incidence was 2.5% among whites (95%
CI=1.4%--4.6%), 3.5% among Hispanics (95% CI=1.4%--8.6%), and 14.7%
among blacks (95% CI=7.9%--27.1%).
Reported by: W McFarland, MD, MH Katz, MD, San Francisco Dept of
Public Health, San Francisco; SR Stoyanoff, MPH, Los Angeles County
Dept of Health Svcs, Los Angeles, California. DA Shehan, Univ of Texas
Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas, Dallas, Texas. M LaLota, MPH,
Florida Dept of Health. DD Celentano, ScD, Johns Hopkins Univ School
of Hygiene and Public Health, Baltimore, Maryland. BA Koblin, PhD, New
York Blood Center, LV Torian, PhD, New York City Dept of Health, New
York, New York. H Thiede, DVM, Public Health--Seattle and King County,
Seattle, Washington. Clinical Biochemistry Br, Div of Environmental
Health Laboratory Sciences, National Center for Environmental Health;
Prevention Svcs Research Br, Statistics and Data Management Br, Office
of the Director, Div of HIV/AIDS Prevention--Surveillance and
Epidemiology, National Center for HIV, STD, and TB Prevention, CDC.
Editorial Note: The findings in this report document a high incidence
of HIV among a sample of young MSM, particularly blacks in their 20s.
The overall incidence was comparable to that reported in recent
studies of adult MSM (3--7). In the 20th year of the HIV epidemic,
young MSM in these cities continue to be at high risk for HIV
infection.
.
User: "RainLover"

Title: Re: ***EMANCIPATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 08:29:49 AM
On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:23:50 GMT, Johnathan A. <jappleseed@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ah yes... cheering for death and suicide. Very Christian of you, Mr. Riske.


But, Buster, it's the AIDS spreading homos that are cheering the day!
More promiscuity more spreading of AIDS more homos don't make the 50th
birthday party. Life (and death in some cases) is good.

I think you're confused... most people getting married (gay or straight) are
looking for COMMITMENT from their partners. Why would anyone need to be able
to get MARRIED in order to be promiscuous?
Wouldn't marriage help stop the spread of STD's presuming less married people
are promiscuous than their single counterparts???
You're logic is baffling.
James, Seattle
.
User: "Newk Mecah"

Title: Re: ***DEGRADATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 09:22:09 AM
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:8tt6a0pkmeitvbhapgpk247c6mkfabn3tp@4ax.com...

Wouldn't marriage help stop the spread of STD's presuming less married

people

are promiscuous than their single counterparts???

You're logic is baffling.

James, Seattle

If marriage caused people to stop being promiscuous, the name "Monica
Lewinsky" wouldn't be a household word, and we wouldn't have had to behold
the spectacle of NUMEROUS women accusing Bill Clinton of having sexually
fondled them.
Your logic is baffling.
And your spelling is atrocious.
.
User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey"

Title: Re: ***DEGRADATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 03:44:07 PM
"Newk Mecah" <MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> writes:

"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:8tt6a0pkmeitvbhapgpk247c6mkfabn3tp@4ax.com...

Wouldn't marriage help stop the spread of STD's presuming less married

people

are promiscuous than their single counterparts???
You're logic is baffling.

If marriage caused people to stop being promiscuous, the name "Monica
Lewinsky" wouldn't be a household word, and we wouldn't have had to behold
the spectacle of NUMEROUS women accusing Bill Clinton of having sexually
fondled them.

Let me guess -- you're against same-sex marriage because it defiles the sacred
institution of marriage.

Your logic is baffling.

Yours is non-existent.

And your spelling is atrocious.

Your lack of thought is what's atrocious.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
.
User: "Brooks Gregory"

Title: Re: ***DEGRADATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 03:41:28 PM
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd658xdk8.fsf@fnord.io.com...
Are you still at Rice?
--
Brooks Gregory
.


User: "Crazy Bastard"

Title: Re: ***DEGRADATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 14 May 2004 01:04:56 PM
"Newk Mecah" <MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> wrote in message
news:lwLoc.8108$KE6.7209@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:8tt6a0pkmeitvbhapgpk247c6mkfabn3tp@4ax.com...

Wouldn't marriage help stop the spread of STD's presuming less married

people

are promiscuous than their single counterparts???
You're logic is baffling.
James, Seattle

If marriage caused people to stop being promiscuous, the name "Monica
Lewinsky" wouldn't be a household word, and we wouldn't have had to behold
the spectacle of NUMEROUS women accusing Bill Clinton of having sexually
fondled them.
Your logic is baffling.
And your spelling is atrocious.

And he walks like a girl.
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User: "RainLover"

Title: Re: ***DEGRADATION DAY*** Countdown: Only SIX days to go!! 13 May 2004 01:48:05 PM
On Thu, 13 May 2004 14:22:09 GMT, "Newk Mecah"
<MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> wrote:


"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:8tt6a0pkmeitvbhapgpk247c6mkfabn3tp@4ax.com...

Wouldn't marriage help stop the spread of STD's presuming less married

people

are promiscuous than their single counterparts???

You're logic is baffling.

James, Seattle



If marriage caused people to stop being promiscuous, the name "Monica
Lewinsky" wouldn't be a household word, and we wouldn't have had to behold
the spectacle of NUMEROUS women accusing Bill Clinton of having sexually
fondled them.

Your logic is baffling.

And your spelling is atrocious.

Whaaa? My spelling? The post you're commenting on is error free and married
people DO act less promiscuous than their single brothers and sisters..
So the question remains... Why would you be AGAINST same-sex marriage if it
means higher rates of fidelity?
James, Seattle
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