Science > Abortion > Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
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27 May 2006 10:35:31 PM |
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Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts at playing God have
proven unsuccessful
http://www.lifenews.com/bio1530.html
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- While lawmakers in Washington are calling
for votes on a bill that would overturn the president's limits on using
taxpayer funds to pay for embryonic stem cell research, the controversial
science has still not yielded any medical breakthroughs.
The recent scandal in South Korea shows embryonic stem cell research still
has a long, long way to go before it produces cures for patients -- if it
ever does.
Biotech lobbyists continue attack President Bush and pro-life lawmakers for
holding up votes to advance embryonic stem cell research, and can hardly
contain their glee when someone votes against funding the unproven research.
But even Sean Tipton, president of the Coalition for the Advancement of
Medical Research, a leading lobbyist for the biotech industry, acknowledges
that the controversial science is making little progress.
In his calls for a vote on funding, he admitted that "at present there's
nothing that's ready for therapeutic use."
Dr. David Stevens of the Christian Medical Association told Focus on the
Family that there are several reasons for that.
"Nobody has been able to get over the tremendous problems of getting these
cells in a pure culture so they don't cause tumors when they're
transplanted," he told Family News in Focus.
"(There's also) the problem of immune rejection - the body seeing them as
foreign material and rejecting them, and also scientists are finding that
they're not functionally normal," Dr. Stevens added.
Led by disgraced scientist Hwang Woo-suk, the South Korean research team was
supposed to have overcome that hurdle.
Hwang's team claimed to have cloned a human embryo and created
patient-specific embryonic stem cells that could be injected as cures
without a person's immune system rejecting them. However, it turned out that
the claims were false and no such specialized embryonic cells ever existed.
Without federal taxpayer funding, embryonic stem cell researchers have
continued their studies on the controversial cells with private funds, but
have still made no progress.
Dr. David Prentice, a former Indiana State University professor now with the
Family Research Council, told FNIF that embryonic stem cell research is at a
dead end.
"They've got cells; they've got federal money; they've got state money;
they've got private money," he said. "There's just frankly nothing there."
At the same time, scientists continue to have tremendous successes with
adult stem cells, which have already produced cures and treatments for
dozens of conditions and diseases.
While President Bush limited using public money for embryonic stem cell
research he's paved the way for hundreds of millions to be spent annually
since 2001 on adult stem cell research.
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
30 May 2006 05:14:18 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
ad hominem
Wow, did you learn a new word? I see it a lot from you now.
follows:
You, as the quintessential example of a profoundly
socially-retarded RRR Cult lemming, could probably be
rebutted by the average lab rat.
You wouldn't know a relevant FACT if you tripped
over it.
Which is probably just as well, since NO relevant
facts that support your anti-social agendas even EXIST
for you to draw upon.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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--sexkitten--
Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child.
-Dan Quayle
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
30 May 2006 09:12:25 AM |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
You, as the quintessential example of a profoundly
socially-retarded RRR Cult lemming, could probably be
rebutted by the average lab rat.
You wouldn't know a relevant FACT if you tripped
over it.
Which is probably just as well, since NO relevant
facts that support your anti-social agendas even EXIST
for you to draw upon.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
30 May 2006 10:46:11 AM |
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"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
ad hominem follows:
You, as the quintessential example of a profoundly
socially-retarded RRR Cult lemming, could probably be
rebutted by the average lab rat.
You wouldn't know a relevant FACT if you tripped
over it.
Which is probably just as well, since NO relevant
facts that support your anti-social agendas even EXIST
for you to draw upon.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
30 May 2006 12:26:45 PM |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
You, as the quintessential example of a profoundly
socially-retarded RRR Cult lemming, could probably be
rebutted by the average lab rat.
You wouldn't know a relevant FACT if you tripped
over it.
Which is probably just as well, since NO relevant
facts that support your anti-social agendas even EXIST
for you to draw upon.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
30 May 2006 12:55:15 PM |
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"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
You, as the quintessential example of a profoundly
socially-retarded RRR Cult lemming, could probably be
rebutted by the average lab rat.
You wouldn't know a relevant FACT if you tripped
over it.
Which is probably just as well, since NO relevant
facts that support your anti-social agendas even EXIST
for you to draw upon.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
30 May 2006 03:01:55 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
....and you're too certifiably insane to bother with responding to. Should we
be complaining to abuse@bellsouth.net?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Benham, Kentucky
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: October 2006, opponent/venue/time TBA
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 07:08:57 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching about ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
You, as the quintessential example of a profoundly
socially-retarded RRR Cult lemming, could probably be
rebutted by the average lab rat.
You wouldn't know a relevant FACT if you tripped
over it.
Which is probably just as well, since NO relevant
facts that support your anti-social agendas even EXIST
for you to draw upon.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 07:30:01 AM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching about ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Almost everything I say has a lot fo truth to it, and you know it.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
02 Jun 2006 09:20:28 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching about ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
....and your proof is? (A number *other* than 102, please.)
Almost everything I say has a lot fo truth to it, and you know it.
:s/everything/nothing...hope this helps.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
....says the official psychotic of South Carolina, who'll never have to worry
about being a parent.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: October 2006, opponent/venue/time TBA
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
03 Jun 2006 12:22:12 AM |
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Johnny <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching about ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Johnny uses ad hominem attacks to try and discredit those who stand up
to his insane hatred.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 08:24:30 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching about ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Ahh, I almost forgot. Johnny is the King of hatred and stereotyping
too.
Almost everything I say has a lot fo truth to it, and you know it.
LOL!!! And, he's a liar as well.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
And, a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that...
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 08:26:33 AM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching about ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Ahh, I almost forgot. Johnny is the King of hatred and stereotyping
too.
Almost everything I say has a lot of truth to it, and you know it.
LOL!!! And, he's a liar as well.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
And, a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that...
You are a hater.
You can't pass off your demeanor on me.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 08:28:42 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168270.471302.193200@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching about ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Ahh, I almost forgot. Johnny is the King of hatred and stereotyping
too.
Almost everything I say has a lot of truth to it, and you know it.
LOL!!! And, he's a liar as well.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
And, a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that...
You are a hater.
And, Johnny is a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that..
You can't pass off your demeanor on me.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 08:30:02 AM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168270.471302.193200@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching about ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Ahh, I almost forgot. Johnny is the King of hatred and stereotyping
too.
Almost everything I say has a lot of truth to it, and you know it.
LOL!!! And, he's a liar as well.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
And, a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that...
You are a hater.
And, Johnny is a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that..
You lost, hater.
You're still losing.
Read my most recent new post.
Again, you can not pass off your demeanor on me.
You can't pass off your demeanor on me.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 08:50:00 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168270.471302.193200@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching about ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Ahh, I almost forgot. Johnny is the King of hatred and stereotyping
too.
Almost everything I say has a lot of truth to it, and you know it.
LOL!!! And, he's a liar as well.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
And, a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that...
You are a hater.
And, Johnny is a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that..
You lost, hater.
You're still losing.
Read my most recent new post.
Again, you can not pass off your demeanor on me.
It's pretty damn hypocritical to call someone a hater, when you're the
biggest hater here Johnny:
In http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/2373bb908b41b0ce,
Johnny said, "I hate you now."
In http://groups.google.com/group/tx.politics/msg/06192b7534c223e9,
Johnny said, "Hate is good."
In
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/1bc9c7863b82effc,
Johnny said, "I am glad Emily Lyons was injured, and I would like it
better had that wimpy ***** died, so she wouldn't be able to spout off
her foaming, unloving,
vindictive, *****'s mouth."
You can't pass off your demeanor on me.
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 09:23:32 AM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149169800.083620.45490@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168522.895114.226500@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168270.471302.193200@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching about
ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Ahh, I almost forgot. Johnny is the King of hatred and stereotyping
too.
Almost everything I say has a lot of truth to it, and you know it.
LOL!!! And, he's a liar as well.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
And, a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that...
You are a hater.
And, Johnny is a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that..
You lost, hater.
You're still losing.
Read my most recent new post.
Again, you can not pass off your demeanor on me.
It's pretty damn hypocritical to call someone a hater, when you're the
biggest hater here Johnny:
In http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/2373bb908b41b0ce,
Johnny said, "I hate you now."
In http://groups.google.com/group/tx.politics/msg/06192b7534c223e9,
Johnny said, "Hate is good."
In
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/1bc9c7863b82effc,
Johnny said, "I am glad Emily Lyons was injured, and I would like it
better had that wimpy ***** died, so she wouldn't be able to spout off
her foaming, unloving,
vindictive, *****'s mouth."
This is a really good indication of how much you are the real hater.
Your reliance on such things which are so far in the past show me just how
much you actually do live in fear and do hate people.
You can't pass off your character defects on me.
.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 09:28:06 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149169800.083620.45490@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168522.895114.226500@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168270.471302.193200@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching about
ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Ahh, I almost forgot. Johnny is the King of hatred and stereotyping
too.
Almost everything I say has a lot of truth to it, and you know it.
LOL!!! And, he's a liar as well.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
And, a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that...
You are a hater.
And, Johnny is a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that..
You lost, hater.
You're still losing.
Read my most recent new post.
Again, you can not pass off your demeanor on me.
It's pretty damn hypocritical to call someone a hater, when you're the
biggest hater here Johnny:
In http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/2373bb908b41b0ce,
Johnny said, "I hate you now."
In http://groups.google.com/group/tx.politics/msg/06192b7534c223e9,
Johnny said, "Hate is good."
In
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/1bc9c7863b82effc,
Johnny said, "I am glad Emily Lyons was injured, and I would like it
better had that wimpy ***** died, so she wouldn't be able to spout off
her foaming, unloving,
vindictive, *****'s mouth."
This is a really good indication of how much you are the real hater.
Your reliance on such things which are so far in the past show me just how
much you actually do live in fear and do hate people.
You can't pass off your character defects on me.
More denial of the truth and more projection by Johnny. Notice that he
said all those hateful things, but then tries to demonize me for it.
Just more typical lunatic behavior by Johnny.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 09:35:22 AM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149172086.188133.154260@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149169800.083620.45490@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168522.895114.226500@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168270.471302.193200@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching
about
ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Ahh, I almost forgot. Johnny is the King of hatred and
stereotyping
too.
Almost everything I say has a lot of truth to it, and you know
it.
LOL!!! And, he's a liar as well.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
And, a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that...
You are a hater.
And, Johnny is a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that..
You lost, hater.
You're still losing.
Read my most recent new post.
Again, you can not pass off your demeanor on me.
It's pretty damn hypocritical to call someone a hater, when you're the
biggest hater here Johnny:
In http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/2373bb908b41b0ce,
Johnny said, "I hate you now."
In http://groups.google.com/group/tx.politics/msg/06192b7534c223e9,
Johnny said, "Hate is good."
In
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/1bc9c7863b82effc,
Johnny said, "I am glad Emily Lyons was injured, and I would like it
better had that wimpy ***** died, so she wouldn't be able to spout off
her foaming, unloving,
vindictive, *****'s mouth."
This is a really good indication of how much you are the real hater.
Your reliance on such things which are so far in the past show me just
how
much you actually do live in fear and do hate people.
You can't pass off your character defects on me.
More denial of the truth and more projection by Johnny.
Not at all, loser.
You think that everything in the past someone write is their current mind.
You are a liar, deceiver, and hater of truth.
Notice that he said all those hateful things,
Said?
but then tries to demonize me for it.
Demonize?
Who the ***** are you?
You are so caught in the mire of deceit you don't know what is going on.
Just more typical lunatic behavior by Johnny.
Mr. Fuckup.
How about growing a brain that works.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 09:40:06 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149172086.188133.154260@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149169800.083620.45490@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168522.895114.226500@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168270.471302.193200@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching
about
ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Ahh, I almost forgot. Johnny is the King of hatred and
stereotyping
too.
Almost everything I say has a lot of truth to it, and you know
it.
LOL!!! And, he's a liar as well.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
And, a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that...
You are a hater.
And, Johnny is a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that..
You lost, hater.
You're still losing.
Read my most recent new post.
Again, you can not pass off your demeanor on me.
It's pretty damn hypocritical to call someone a hater, when you're the
biggest hater here Johnny:
In http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/2373bb908b41b0ce,
Johnny said, "I hate you now."
In http://groups.google.com/group/tx.politics/msg/06192b7534c223e9,
Johnny said, "Hate is good."
In
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/1bc9c7863b82effc,
Johnny said, "I am glad Emily Lyons was injured, and I would like it
better had that wimpy ***** died, so she wouldn't be able to spout off
her foaming, unloving,
vindictive, *****'s mouth."
This is a really good indication of how much you are the real hater.
Your reliance on such things which are so far in the past show me just
how
much you actually do live in fear and do hate people.
You can't pass off your character defects on me.
More denial of the truth and more projection by Johnny.
Not at all, loser.
You think that everything in the past someone write is their current mind.
You are a liar, deceiver, and hater of truth.
Lying again, Johnny. You really shouldn't do that.
Notice that he said all those hateful things,
Said?
Yea, said. Do you not know what the word means?
but then tries to demonize me for it.
Demonize?
Who the ***** are you?
You are so caught in the mire of deceit you don't know what is going on.
LOL!!!
Just more typical lunatic behavior by Johnny.
Mr. Fuckup.
How about growing a brain that works.
Everyone can see your hatrd above, you're continued denial of it even
when it's in black and white in front of you, clearly shows who needs a
working brain.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 09:46:23 AM |
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"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149172806.736133.162080@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149172086.188133.154260@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149169800.083620.45490@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168522.895114.226500@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168270.471302.193200@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my
opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same.
Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching
about
ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Ahh, I almost forgot. Johnny is the King of hatred and
stereotyping
too.
Almost everything I say has a lot of truth to it, and you
know
it.
LOL!!! And, he's a liar as well.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
And, a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that...
You are a hater.
And, Johnny is a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that..
You lost, hater.
You're still losing.
Read my most recent new post.
Again, you can not pass off your demeanor on me.
It's pretty damn hypocritical to call someone a hater, when you're
the
biggest hater here Johnny:
In http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/2373bb908b41b0ce,
Johnny said, "I hate you now."
In http://groups.google.com/group/tx.politics/msg/06192b7534c223e9,
Johnny said, "Hate is good."
In
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/1bc9c7863b82effc,
Johnny said, "I am glad Emily Lyons was injured, and I would like it
better had that wimpy ***** died, so she wouldn't be able to spout
off
her foaming, unloving,
vindictive, *****'s mouth."
This is a really good indication of how much you are the real hater.
Your reliance on such things which are so far in the past show me just
how
much you actually do live in fear and do hate people.
You can't pass off your character defects on me.
More denial of the truth and more projection by Johnny.
Not at all, loser.
You think that everything in the past someone write is their current
mind.
You are a liar, deceiver, and hater of truth.
Lying again, Johnny. You really shouldn't do that.
Notice that he said all those hateful things,
Said?
Yea, said. Do you not know what the word means?
but then tries to demonize me for it.
Demonize?
Who the ***** are you?
You are so caught in the mire of deceit you don't know what is going on.
LOL!!!
Just more typical lunatic behavior by Johnny.
Mr. Fuckup.
How about growing a brain that works.
Everyone can see your hatrd above, you're continued denial of it even
when it's in black and white in front of you, clearly shows who needs a
working brain.
Not so.
You are who perceives it as hate, you god damned criminal.
Learn to live with being hated by MILLIONS of people, or learn to change.
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
01 Jun 2006 09:50:18 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149172806.736133.162080@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149172086.188133.154260@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149169800.083620.45490@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168522.895114.226500@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149168270.471302.193200@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149163737.759288.32320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Johnny wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:nvvo721227k59r66q8gte05jqacn12nsp9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my
opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same.
Just
as I am doing NOW...
IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.
REDUNDANT ad hominen from chilton follows:
Johnny's the King of the ad hominem attack, so him bitching
about
ad
hominems is pretty damn funny, not to mention hypocritical.
*****.
Gays and abortionists are the leaders in ad hominem.
Ahh, I almost forgot. Johnny is the King of hatred and
stereotyping
too.
Almost everything I say has a lot of truth to it, and you
know
it.
LOL!!! And, he's a liar as well.
Ready for your blah blah blah now.
You child haters suck.
And, a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that...
You are a hater.
And, Johnny is a liar as well. Ooops, I already said that..
You lost, hater.
You're still losing.
Read my most recent new post.
Again, you can not pass off your demeanor on me.
It's pretty damn hypocritical to call someone a hater, when you're
the
biggest hater here Johnny:
In http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion/msg/2373bb908b41b0ce,
Johnny said, "I hate you now."
In http://groups.google.com/group/tx.politics/msg/06192b7534c223e9,
Johnny said, "Hate is good."
In
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/1bc9c7863b82effc,
Johnny said, "I am glad Emily Lyons was injured, and I would like it
better had that wimpy ***** died, so she wouldn't be able to spout
off
her foaming, unloving,
vindictive, *****'s mouth."
This is a really good indication of how much you are the real hater.
Your reliance on such things which are so far in the past show me just
how
much you actually do live in fear and do hate people.
You can't pass off your character defects on me.
More denial of the truth and more projection by Johnny.
Not at all, loser.
You think that everything in the past someone write is their current
mind.
You are a liar, deceiver, and hater of truth.
Lying again, Johnny. You really shouldn't do that.
Notice that he said all those hateful things,
Said?
Yea, said. Do you not know what the word means?
but then tries to demonize me for it.
Demonize?
Who the ***** are you?
You are so caught in the mire of deceit you don't know what is going on.
LOL!!!
Just more typical lunatic behavior by Johnny.
Mr. Fuckup.
How about growing a brain that works.
Everyone can see your hatrd above, you're continued denial of it even
when it's in black and white in front of you, clearly shows who needs a
working brain.
Not so.
You are who perceives it as hate, you god damned criminal.
Learn to live with being hated by MILLIONS of people, or learn to change.
And, the denial continues...
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
29 May 2006 01:50:47 AM |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 04:25:18 GMT, Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT
of Iraq -- NOW!!! <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2006 20:23:58 -0400,
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
It's standard operating practice - ignore what they are told the first
time, and when it's repeated didmiss it because it's repeated.
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
29 May 2006 08:30:53 AM |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 02:50:47 -0400,
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
It's standard operating practice - ignore what they are
told the first time, and when it's repeated didmiss it because
it's repeated.
Yep. The lemmings of the RRR Cult are FAR from
being the sharpest knives in the drawer. Intelligence
and support for hateful agendas of bigotry don't go
together; they're mutually-exclusive.
Example #1 --
NO sensible and intelligent person supports the loathsome
agenda of Anti-Choice, which seeks to leave millions of girls
and women with NO choice but to be FORCED to gestate an
UNwanted pregnancy to term, against her wilt... a very real
9-month-long form of RAPE. An action that would deprive
them of personal liberty... put them into a 2nd-class citizen
status of involuntary servitude (which would be unconstitu-
tional in its own right)... impose immense and totally unnec-
essary hardship upon them... and destroy countless of their
future opportunities.
Example #2 --
NO anti-gay-rights bigot, to the best of my knowledge, has
ever been able to come up with ANY relevant fact(s) that
could support their stance in response to THIS challenge.
The scenario: A same-sex (gay) couple living in Anytown,
USA, in almost Anystate, USA, have been living together for
20 years. Suddenly, the U.S. Supreme Court, after looking
at the issue of same-sex marriage, strikes down all of the
nation's so-called DOMA laws, state constitutional amend-
ments, or any and all other restrictions against same-sex
marriage. So the couple finally is able to become legally
married, and does so.
The challenge: Remembering that the couple in this
scenario had already been cohabiting for several years *as
though* married, for years... how would their new status
as a legally-married couple do ANY harm whatsoever to any
opposite-sec couple's marriage in that community? (Keep
in mind the premise of those "DOMA" laws: "DEFENSE" of
(so-called "traditional") marriage. Defense against *what*?)
BOTTOM LINE: Opponents of ready access by any and all
girls and women to the hugely-beneficial remedy of abortion
in the case of UN-wanted pregnancy... and opponents of
the ability of loving same-sex couples to be able to legally
marry one another (and thereby have full access to ALL of
the benefits that accrue as a result, that are enjoyed by
all of their opposite-sex-married-couple fellow citizens)...
are uncompassionate, unfair, hateful, bigoted, irrational,
and usually of limited intelligence.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
America's mentally-challenged version of the Taliban.
Where common sense and intelligence combine,
a fair-minded egalitarian is ALWAYS the result. RRR
Cult lemmings always lack either one or the other, or
both, of those two elements.
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
28 May 2006 02:04:19 AM |
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"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote
On Sat, 27 May 2006 23:35:31 -0400,
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
Not to worry -- it surely WILL!
And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!
(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)
Let's do a .little thought experiment.
Is it OK to perform painful and fatal experiments on animals
a) To look for a cure for cancer.
b) To sort out the phylogentic relationships of various species of octopus?
Joe Public will probably tick a) and cross b), certianly in Britain. You
just need to pronounce the words "medical research" and everyone is really
impressed. I always describe what I am doing as "working on Alzheimer's
disease", unless I am speaking to other scientists, when I say I am "making
simplified models of amyloid fibrils".
One thing cancer researchers are extremely interested in in which genes work
together in various stages of the cell cycle. One way of seeing if two genes
are linked is to see whether they are lost together at the same time in
evolution. To do this very cheap analysis you need, you've guessed it, an
accurate phylogenetic tree of octopuses.
Big progress usually comes from basic rather than applied science.
Similarly these medical breakthroughs which are supposed to come from human
stem cell research are grossly oversold. We need to do the basic science
first.
However there is nothing particularly interesting about human stem cells.
All the basic work can be done in mice. There is no ethical problem
whatsoever with work on mice.
Human cells may be more convenient to work with, and I don't necessarily
mean this in a trivial sense. Convenience can mean the difference between a
procedure which is very difficult and one which is almost impossible. A
scientist who chooses humans as his test organism is not necessarily being
arrogant. However these sorts of considerations cannot ultimately be allowed
to determine the debate. The work should be done in mice. When mice are
cured using stem cells, then we can draw a deep breath and decide whether it
is time to look at experiments with humans.
--
Buy my book 12 Common Atheist Arguments (refuted)
$1.25 download or $7.20 paper, available www.lulu.com/bgy1mm
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
28 May 2006 01:14:30 PM |
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Malcolm <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote
On Sat, 27 May 2006 23:35:31 -0400,
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
Not to worry -- it surely WILL!
And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!
(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)
Let's do a .little thought experiment.
Is it OK to perform painful and fatal experiments on animals
a) To look for a cure for cancer.
b) To sort out the phylogentic relationships of various species of octopus?
Is it okay to enslave women and force them to suffer and even die
because you don't like them having sex?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
28 May 2006 01:32:42 PM |
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On Sun, 28 May 2006 08:04:19 +0100,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
Not to worry -- it surely WILL!
And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!
(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)
[ ... ]
All the basic work can be done in mice. There is no ethical problem
whatsoever with work on mice.
Human cells may be more convenient to work with, and I don't
necessarily mean this in a trivial sense. Convenience can mean the
difference between a procedure which is very difficult and one
which is almost impossible. A scientist who chooses humans as his
test organism is not necessarily being arrogant. However these
sorts of considerations cannot ultimately be allowed to determine
the debate. The work should be done in mice. When mice are
cured using stem cells, then we can draw a deep breath and decide
whether it is time to look at experiments with humans.
Since all "humans" (noun, rather than adjective) have been BORN,
I would agree with that. "Humans" are PEOPLE.
However, NO amount of research that involves human (adj.) entities
that are *not* people (e.g., embryonic stem cells) would be anything
other than totally *harmless,* (and *would* be potentially *beneficial*),
and therefore should be pursued unabated with gusto my medical
scientists.
(For INTELLIGENT and sensible people, there is even LESS of an
ethical problem with those than with mice. Mice can feel pain, and have
a degree of sentience. Human embryoes cannot and do not, respectively.
There is NO ethical problem with research involving human embryoes,
except in the minds of the profoundly ignorant and/or cultically-
brainwashed. (Such as the RRR cult's lemmings.)
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
28 May 2006 02:16:31 PM |
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On Sun, 28 May 2006 08:04:19 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote
On Sat, 27 May 2006 23:35:31 -0400,
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46546
http://www.ivanhoe.com/channels/p_channelstory.cfm?storyid=13720
http://www.rense.com/general71/stem.htm
________________
I am human; nothing in humanity is alien to me.
Terence
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| User: "Thingy" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
28 May 2006 05:28:17 PM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2006 23:35:31 -0400,
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
Not to worry -- it surely WILL!
But it hasn't already so we should scrap it.
Swastika-waving, bible-thumping control-freaks
like Young are in a much better position to make
such judgements than research scientists. Isn't
that obvious?
And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!
It doesn't matter what the benefits to humanity are.
The point is that in order to realise these benefits
insentient human embryos need to be temporarily
created and then destroyed and that is clearly wrong.
Scientists are not God so they have no right to try
and find medical advancements that will improve the
lives of future generations of sentient human people.
(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
28 May 2006 06:20:22 PM |
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On 28 May 2006 15:28:17 -0700,
"Thingy" <prplbn@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
Not to worry -- it surely WILL!
But it hasn't already so we should scrap it.
Yeah, right.
Swastika-waving, bible-thumping control-freaks
like Young are in a much better position to make
such judgements than research scientists. Isn't
that obvious?
HE certainly thinks so. (LOL!!)
And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!
It doesn't matter what the benefits to humanity are.
The point is that in order to realize these benefits
insentient human embryos need to be temporarily
created and then destroyed and that is clearly wrong.
Scientists are not God so they have no right to try
and find medical advancements that will improve the
lives of future generations of sentient human people.
Based on what you said earlier, it appears that you forgot
to put the <satire> </satire> notations before and after that
last paragraph.
(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
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| User: "Thingy" |
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| Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
29 May 2006 08:16:20 AM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 28 May 2006 15:28:17 -0700,
"Thingy" <prplbn@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
Not to worry -- it surely WILL!
But it hasn't already so we should scrap it.
Yeah, right.
Swastika-waving, bible-thumping control-freaks
like Young are in a much better position to make
such judgements than research scientists. Isn't
that obvious?
HE certainly thinks so. (LOL!!)
And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!
It doesn't matter what the benefits to humanity are.
The point is that in order to realize these benefits
insentient human embryos need to be temporarily
created and then destroyed and that is clearly wrong.
Scientists are not God so they have no right to try
and find medical advancements that will improve the
lives of future generations of sentient human people.
Based on what you said earlier, it appears that you forgot
to put the <satire> </satire> notations before and after that
last paragraph.
It didn't occur to me that it was necessary to do so but I
suppose you are so used to complete morons writing
similar things in all sincerity that it is hard to recognize
satire?
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