Science > Abortion > Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
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Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts at playing God have
proven unsuccessful
http://www.lifenews.com/bio1530.html
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- While lawmakers in Washington are calling
for votes on a bill that would overturn the president's limits on using
taxpayer funds to pay for embryonic stem cell research, the controversial
science has still not yielded any medical breakthroughs.
The recent scandal in South Korea shows embryonic stem cell research still
has a long, long way to go before it produces cures for patients -- if it
ever does.
Biotech lobbyists continue attack President Bush and pro-life lawmakers for
holding up votes to advance embryonic stem cell research, and can hardly
contain their glee when someone votes against funding the unproven research.
But even Sean Tipton, president of the Coalition for the Advancement of
Medical Research, a leading lobbyist for the biotech industry, acknowledges
that the controversial science is making little progress.
In his calls for a vote on funding, he admitted that "at present there's
nothing that's ready for therapeutic use."
Dr. David Stevens of the Christian Medical Association told Focus on the
Family that there are several reasons for that.
"Nobody has been able to get over the tremendous problems of getting these
cells in a pure culture so they don't cause tumors when they're
transplanted," he told Family News in Focus.
"(There's also) the problem of immune rejection - the body seeing them as
foreign material and rejecting them, and also scientists are finding that
they're not functionally normal," Dr. Stevens added.
Led by disgraced scientist Hwang Woo-suk, the South Korean research team was
supposed to have overcome that hurdle.
Hwang's team claimed to have cloned a human embryo and created
patient-specific embryonic stem cells that could be injected as cures
without a person's immune system rejecting them. However, it turned out that
the claims were false and no such specialized embryonic cells ever existed.
Without federal taxpayer funding, embryonic stem cell researchers have
continued their studies on the controversial cells with private funds, but
have still made no progress.
Dr. David Prentice, a former Indiana State University professor now with the
Family Research Council, told FNIF that embryonic stem cell research is at a
dead end.
"They've got cells; they've got federal money; they've got state money;
they've got private money," he said. "There's just frankly nothing there."
At the same time, scientists continue to have tremendous successes with
adult stem cells, which have already produced cures and treatments for
dozens of conditions and diseases.
While President Bush limited using public money for embryonic stem cell
research he's paved the way for hundreds of millions to be spent annually
since 2001 on adult stem cell research.
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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29 May 2006 09:55:37 AM |
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On 29 May 2006 06:16:20 -0700,
"Thingy" <prplbn@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Thingy" <prplbn@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
Not to worry -- it surely WILL!
But it hasn't already so we should scrap it.
Yeah, right.
Swastika-waving, bible-thumping control-freaks
like Young are in a much better position to make
such judgements than research scientists. Isn't
that obvious?
HE certainly thinks so. (LOL!!)
And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!
It doesn't matter what the benefits to humanity are.
The point is that in order to realize these benefits
insentient human embryos need to be temporarily
created and then destroyed and that is clearly wrong.
Scientists are not God so they have no right to try
and find medical advancements that will improve the
lives of future generations of sentient human people.
Based on what you said earlier, it appears that you
forgot to put the <satire> </satire> notations before
and after that last paragraph.
It didn't occur to me that it was necessary to do so but I
suppose you are so used to complete morons writing
similar things in all sincerity that it is hard to recognize
satire?
Nope. As you can see above, I **did** recognize your satire
as such. I simply mentioned that for the sake of the bigoted
DOLTS in here to whom that would have sailed right over their
pointed heads. Never take any intelligence on their part for
granted. Intelligence and bigotry are mutually-exclusive.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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27 May 2006 11:04:33 PM |
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On Sat, 27 May 2006 23:35:31 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value, despite having
had over 2,000 years worth of chances. Your point, other than the one
under your hat, would be?
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27 May 2006 11:49:49 PM |
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On Sun, 28 May 2006 04:04:33 GMT,
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST difference.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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28 May 2006 03:11:48 AM |
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On Sun, 28 May 2006 04:04:33 GMT,
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST difference.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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28 May 2006 10:01:06 AM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2006 04:04:33 GMT,
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST difference.
Killing children by abortion is not a Christian act, Craig. You cannot
serve two masters. You will hate the one and love the other, you will
despise the one and cling to the other. What is missing in your
interpretation of Christ's teachings is the principle of repentance.
Matthew 3:1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the
wilderness of Judea,
2 And saying, Repent ye, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach and to say, Repent:
for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one
of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye
shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Repentance is a necessary principle in the gospel of salvation. All
have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
Robert B. Winn
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28 May 2006 11:55:25 AM |
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On 28 May 2006 08:01:06 -0700,
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
<remaining OFF-topic rant flushed>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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28 May 2006 07:51:28 PM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 28 May 2006 08:01:06 -0700,
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
<remaining OFF-topic rant flushed>
Say nothing but repentance to this generation.
Robert B. Winn
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28 May 2006 11:27:20 PM |
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On 28 May 2006 08:01:06 -0700,
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
<remaining OFF-topic rant flushed>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
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29 May 2006 08:33:34 AM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 28 May 2006 08:01:06 -0700,
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
<remaining OFF-topic rant flushed>
Say nothing but repentance unto this generation.
Robert B. Winn
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29 May 2006 09:56:13 AM |
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On 28 May 2006 08:01:06 -0700,
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
<remaining OFF-topic rant flushed>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
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29 May 2006 04:26:48 PM |
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Say nothing but repentance unto this generation.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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| Title: Re: RRR Cultists... Probably the most UN-Chrstian crowd of hateful losers since the Crusades! |
29 May 2006 04:43:58 PM |
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On 28 May 2006 08:01:06 -0700,
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
<remaining OFF-topic rant flushed>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
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| Title: Re: RRR Cultists... Probably the most UN-Chrstian crowd of hateful losers since the Crusades! |
30 May 2006 08:06:09 AM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 28 May 2006 08:01:06 -0700,
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife being great with
child.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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| Title: Re: RRR Cultists... Probably the most UN-Chrstian crowd of hateful losers since the Crusades! |
30 May 2006 09:15:55 AM |
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On 28 May 2006 08:01:06 -0700,
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
<remaining OFF-topic rant flushed>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
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| Title: Re: RRR Cultists... Probably the most UN-Chrstian crowd of hateful losers since the Crusades! |
30 May 2006 03:32:16 PM |
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Say nothing but repentance to this generation.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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| Title: Re: RRR Cultists... Probably the most UN-Chrstian crowd of hateful losers since the Crusades! |
31 May 2006 12:08:53 PM |
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On 28 May 2006 08:01:06 -0700,
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
<remaining OFF-topic rant flushed>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
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| Title: Re: RRR Cultists... Probably the most UN-Chrstian crowd of hateful losers since the Crusades! |
31 May 2006 02:49:52 PM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 28 May 2006 08:01:06 -0700,
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
<remaining OFF-topic rant flushed>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
He is come to Aiath, he is passed to Migron; at Michmash he hath laid
up his carriages.
Robert B. Winn
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31 May 2006 03:17:47 PM |
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wrote:
Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 28 May 2006 08:01:06 -0700,
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn < > wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
<remaining OFF-topic rant flushed>
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
He is come to Aiath, he is passed to Migron; at Michmash he hath laid
up his carriages.
Robert B. Winn
Still posing as a Christian? Give it up.
--
--sexkitten--
Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child.
-Dan Quayle
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--sexkitten-- wrote:
rbwinn3@juno.com wrote:
Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
He is come to Aiath, he is passed to Migron; at Michmash he hath laid
up his carriages.
Robert B. Winn
Still posing as a Christian? Give it up.
Isaiah 7:4 And say unto him, Take heed, and be quiet; for the two
tails of these smoking firebrands, for the fierce anger of Rezin with
Syria, and the son or Remaliah.
Robert B. Winn
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| Title: Re: RRR Cultists... Probably the most UN-Chrstian crowd of hatefullosers since the Crusades! |
01 Jun 2006 04:07:13 AM |
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wrote:
--sexkitten-- wrote:
wrote:
Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
He is come to Aiath, he is passed to Migron; at Michmash he hath laid
up his carriages.
Robert B. Winn
Still posing as a Christian? Give it up.
Isaiah 7:4 And say unto him, Take heed, and be quiet; for the two
tails of these smoking firebrands, for the fierce anger of Rezin with
Syria, and the son or Remaliah.
Robert B. Winn
Still posing as a Christian? Give it up.
--
--sexkitten--
Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child.
-Dan Quayle
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| Title: Re: RRR Cultists... Probably the most UN-Chrstian crowd of hateful losers since the Crusades! |
01 Jun 2006 02:28:36 PM |
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--sexkitten-- wrote:
rbwinn3@juno.com wrote:
--sexkitten-- wrote:
rbwinn3@juno.com wrote:
Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
He is come to Aiath, he is passed to Migron; at Michmash he hath laid
up his carriages.
Robert B. Winn
Still posing as a Christian? Give it up.
Isaiah 7:4 And say unto him, Take heed, and be quiet; for the two
tails of these smoking firebrands, for the fierce anger of Rezin with
Syria, and the son or Remaliah.
Robert B. Winn
Still posing as a Christian? Give it up.
Hosea 12:14 Ephriam provoked him to anger most bitterly: therefore
shall he leave his blood upon him, and his reproach shall his Lord
return unto him.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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| Title: Re: RRR Cultists... Probably the most UN-Chrstian crowd of hateful losers since the Crusades! |
31 May 2006 04:02:52 PM |
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 13:17:47 -0700,
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:te:
Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
Mindless Bigot, Robert Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@_mchsi.com> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST
difference.
Killing children by abortion is...
...impossible! Since ALL *children* have been BORN.
He is come to Aiath...
<stupidity flushed>
Still posing as a Christian? Give it up.
He's 'WAY too damned DUMB to do that. Or else he's a cagey
ANTI-Christian who's posing as a WACKO Christian in a crusade to
portray Christianity as being nutty.
That's about the ONLY thing that the RRR Cult does adeptly.
Fortunately for those whose personal liberties they so idiotically
seek to destroy. But unfortunately for the 94% of professing
Christians who have nothing to do with that loathsome cult.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| Title: Re: RRR Cultists... Probably the most UN-Chrstian crowd of hateful losers since the Crusades! |
31 May 2006 11:03:25 PM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2006 13:17:47 -0700,
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_
He is come to Aiath...
<stupidity flushed>
Still posing as a Christian? Give it up.
He's 'WAY too damned DUMB to do that. Or else he's a cagey
ANTI-Christian who's posing as a WACKO Christian in a crusade to
portray Christianity as being nutty.
That's about the ONLY thing that the RRR Cult does adeptly.
Fortunately for those whose personal liberties they so idiotically
seek to destroy. But unfortunately for the 94% of professing
Christians who have nothing to do with that loathsome cult.
Craig, I was wondering if you have any idea why the first sermon taught
by Jesus Christ was, Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
There seems to be a certain significance to this message.
Robert B. Winn
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01 Jun 2006 07:57:12 AM |
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On 31 May 2006 21:03:25 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_
[ ... ]
<Winn's stupidity flushed>
Still posing as a Christian? Give it up.
He's 'WAY too damned DUMB to do that. Or else he's a cagey
ANTI-Christian who's posing as a WACKO Christian in a crusade to
portray Christianity as being nutty.
That's about the ONLY thing that the RRR Cult does adeptly.
Fortunately for those whose personal liberties they so idiotically
seek to destroy. But unfortunately for the 94% of professing
Christians who have nothing to do with that loathsome cult.
Craig, I was wondering if you have any idea why the first sermon
taught by Jesus Christ was, Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is
at hand. There seems to be a certain significance to this message.
Typical RRR Cult lemming that you are, you split and run down
unrelated rabbit paths when confronted by the truth of the hard
realities. In this case, the reality that losers like you seek to DE-
STROY vitally-important person liberties of millions of women and
gays. Pointlessly. Hatefully. STUPIDLY. And for NO good reason.
In the case of abortion, the Bible provides NO support to
Anti-Choicers. (And, see sig, below, for more on that.)
In the case of homosexual behavior, the Bible seems to indicate
pretty clearly that there are some problems. BUT... they are ones
that gays can take up with God... or not. As THEY choose to do or
not to do.
The RRR Cult is America's GESTAPO wanna-be.
A collection of idiots and loser control-freaks who can't seem
to figure out the fact that the Bible NOwhere supports, appoints,
or in any way authorizes ANY person or group to act as an
ENFORCER of Biblical precepts and directives against society in
general. (Or far worse, as we see with abortion, the attempted
enforcement of the RRR's own PHONY DOGMA against society.)
In fact, the Bible commands just the OPPOSITE in 1 Cor. 5:12-13.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside
the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13God will judge those outside.
(Isn't it interesting the way that most of the RRR Cultists
try to foist such nonsense as the Adam and Eve story being
LITERALLY true (rather than allegorical) upon society with all
their ignorant anti-evolution propaganda and garbage... but
totally IGNORE (and **disobey** the passage above? What
HYPOCRITES!!)
The Bible *does* -- as that passage indicated -- allow for
"church discipline" WITHIN Christianity... vs. fellow Christians.
But it PROHIBITS Christians from acting as a Gestapo against
personal liberties of society as a whole.
-- Craig Chilton
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GOD'S "WIN-WIN-WIN" SITUATION
God is omniscient and omnipotent. That means that He has
always KNOWN everything *about* everything, past present and
future. And that He may freely INTERACT, uniquely, with any
person, group, or all humanity, however and whenever He
chooses.
Trillions (indeed, even octillions) of years ago, God KNEW
just *which* human entities (from sperm and ova on, inclusive)
would be born, and which ones would NOT, for whatever
reason. In the case of Jeremiah, He interacted BEFORE
Jeremiah reached the womb -- while Jeremiah was STILL at
the sperm-and-ovum stage! (Jer. 1:5). In THAT case, at least,
the soul had been instilled at the sperm-and-egg stage -- the
stage at which God communicated with Jeremiah.
So it's VERY possible that God instills ALL souls at that
stage... since God ALREADY knows which of them will later
become people, and which ones will not. And if He chooses
to instill souls in ALL of those, then heaven must be a VERY
populated place. And any potential people that happened to
have been aborted then got a FREE pass to heaven. And
missed the RISK that is faced by all of us here on earth.
And then, there also is the very REAL possibility that God
chooses to instill souls ONLY in the entities that He KNOWS,
beforehand, *will* be BORN. Then there are NO free passes
to heaven. But that's no loss to the QUINTILLION human
entities, daily, that never knew the difference.
Any way you look at it, it's a "win-win" situation for God.
Which makes it no great surprise that He never said so much
as ONE SINGLE WORD against abortion. Since abortion is a
highly-valuable REMEDY that enables millions of women to put
their lives BACK on track, and gives them another chance to
pursue their full ranges of future opportunities, the availability
of it is FAR more in line with God's COMPASSION (and the
compassion that Jesus commanded us to show to others), than
it would be for women to be FORCED to carry-to-term against
their will, and see many of their opportunities and their well-
being destroyed. (Particularly since God ALSO was/is well-
aware that MOST women who DO obtain abortions go on later
to HAVE children, by choice, when the timing is better, and the
circumstances and prospects for long-term stable family
environments are far more favorable.)
For God, the status quo is "win-win-win" -- all the way!
-- Posted to several relevant Usenet Groups on 10-21-2001.
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01 Jun 2006 02:24:55 PM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 31 May 2006 21:03:25 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_
[ ... ]
<Winn's stupidity flushed>
Still posing as a Christian? Give it up.
He's 'WAY too damned DUMB to do that. Or else he's a cagey
ANTI-Christian who's posing as a WACKO Christian in a crusade to
portray Christianity as being nutty.
That's about the ONLY thing that the RRR Cult does adeptly.
Fortunately for those whose personal liberties they so idiotically
seek to destroy. But unfortunately for the 94% of professing
Christians who have nothing to do with that loathsome cult.
Craig, I was wondering if you have any idea why the first sermon
taught by Jesus Christ was, Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is
at hand. There seems to be a certain significance to this message.
Typical RRR Cult lemming that you are, you split and run down
unrelated rabbit paths when confronted by the truth of the hard
realities. In this case, the reality that losers like you seek to DE-
STROY vitally-important person liberties of millions of women and
gays. Pointlessly. Hatefully. STUPIDLY. And for NO good reason.
In the case of abortion, the Bible provides NO support to
Anti-Choicers. (And, see sig, below, for more on that.)
In the case of homosexual behavior, the Bible seems to indicate
pretty clearly that there are some problems. BUT... they are ones
that gays can take up with God... or not. As THEY choose to do or
not to do.
The RRR Cult is America's GESTAPO wanna-be.
A collection of idiots and loser control-freaks who can't seem
to figure out the fact that the Bible NOwhere supports, appoints,
or in any way authorizes ANY person or group to act as an
ENFORCER of Biblical precepts and directives against society in
general. (Or far worse, as we see with abortion, the attempted
enforcement of the RRR's own PHONY DOGMA against society.)
In fact, the Bible commands just the OPPOSITE in 1 Cor. 5:12-13.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside
the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13God will judge those outside.
(Isn't it interesting the way that most of the RRR Cultists
try to foist such nonsense as the Adam and Eve story being
LITERALLY true (rather than allegorical) upon society with all
their ignorant anti-evolution propaganda and garbage... but
totally IGNORE (and **disobey** the passage above? What
HYPOCRITES!!)
The Bible *does* -- as that passage indicated -- allow for
"church discipline" WITHIN Christianity... vs. fellow Christians.
But it PROHIBITS Christians from acting as a Gestapo against
personal liberties of society as a whole.
-- Craig Chilton
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
GOD'S "WIN-WIN-WIN" SITUATION
God is omniscient and omnipotent. That means that He has
always KNOWN everything *about* everything, past present and
future. And that He may freely INTERACT, uniquely, with any
person, group, or all humanity, however and whenever He
chooses.
Trillions (indeed, even octillions) of years ago, God KNEW
just *which* human entities (from sperm and ova on, inclusive)
would be born, and which ones would NOT, for whatever
reason. In the case of Jeremiah, He interacted BEFORE
Jeremiah reached the womb -- while Jeremiah was STILL at
the sperm-and-ovum stage! (Jer. 1:5). In THAT case, at least,
the soul had been instilled at the sperm-and-egg stage -- the
stage at which God communicated with Jeremiah.
So it's VERY possible that God instills ALL souls at that
stage... since God ALREADY knows which of them will later
become people, and which ones will not. And if He chooses
to instill souls in ALL of those, then heaven must be a VERY
populated place. And any potential people that happened to
have been aborted then got a FREE pass to heaven. And
missed the RISK that is faced by all of us here on earth.
And then, there also is the very REAL possibility that God
chooses to instill souls ONLY in the entities that He KNOWS,
beforehand, *will* be BORN. Then there are NO free passes
to heaven. But that's no loss to the QUINTILLION human
entities, daily, that never knew the difference.
Any way you look at it, it's a "win-win" situation for God.
Which makes it no great surprise that He never said so much
as ONE SINGLE WORD against abortion. Since abortion is a
highly-valuable REMEDY that enables millions of women to put
their lives BACK on track, and gives them another chance to
pursue their full ranges of future opportunities, the availability
of it is FAR more in line with God's COMPASSION (and the
compassion that Jesus commanded us to show to others), than
it would be for women to be FORCED to carry-to-term against
their will, and see many of their opportunities and their well-
being destroyed. (Particularly since God ALSO was/is well-
aware that MOST women who DO obtain abortions go on later
to HAVE children, by choice, when the timing is better, and the
circumstances and prospects for long-term stable family
environments are far more favorable.)
For God, the status quo is "win-win-win" -- all the way!
Well, the problem I see, Craig, is that Christians are supposed to
BRING souls to Christ, not SEND them. By your reasoning, Hitler,
Stalin, and Pol Pot are three of the greatest Christians because they
SENT so many souls to Christ.
I was watching a show about pedophiles last night on NBC. Now as I
understand it, under your definition of adultery, you are giving
pedophiles a free pass into heaven because they are not married to the
children they molest. See, this is one of the reasons why some people
think your definition of adultery is a little narrow.
Robert B. Winn
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