Science > Abortion > Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
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27 May 2006 10:35:31 PM |
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Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs |
The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts at playing God have
proven unsuccessful
http://www.lifenews.com/bio1530.html
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- While lawmakers in Washington are calling
for votes on a bill that would overturn the president's limits on using
taxpayer funds to pay for embryonic stem cell research, the controversial
science has still not yielded any medical breakthroughs.
The recent scandal in South Korea shows embryonic stem cell research still
has a long, long way to go before it produces cures for patients -- if it
ever does.
Biotech lobbyists continue attack President Bush and pro-life lawmakers for
holding up votes to advance embryonic stem cell research, and can hardly
contain their glee when someone votes against funding the unproven research.
But even Sean Tipton, president of the Coalition for the Advancement of
Medical Research, a leading lobbyist for the biotech industry, acknowledges
that the controversial science is making little progress.
In his calls for a vote on funding, he admitted that "at present there's
nothing that's ready for therapeutic use."
Dr. David Stevens of the Christian Medical Association told Focus on the
Family that there are several reasons for that.
"Nobody has been able to get over the tremendous problems of getting these
cells in a pure culture so they don't cause tumors when they're
transplanted," he told Family News in Focus.
"(There's also) the problem of immune rejection - the body seeing them as
foreign material and rejecting them, and also scientists are finding that
they're not functionally normal," Dr. Stevens added.
Led by disgraced scientist Hwang Woo-suk, the South Korean research team was
supposed to have overcome that hurdle.
Hwang's team claimed to have cloned a human embryo and created
patient-specific embryonic stem cells that could be injected as cures
without a person's immune system rejecting them. However, it turned out that
the claims were false and no such specialized embryonic cells ever existed.
Without federal taxpayer funding, embryonic stem cell researchers have
continued their studies on the controversial cells with private funds, but
have still made no progress.
Dr. David Prentice, a former Indiana State University professor now with the
Family Research Council, told FNIF that embryonic stem cell research is at a
dead end.
"They've got cells; they've got federal money; they've got state money;
they've got private money," he said. "There's just frankly nothing there."
At the same time, scientists continue to have tremendous successes with
adult stem cells, which have already produced cures and treatments for
dozens of conditions and diseases.
While President Bush limited using public money for embryonic stem cell
research he's paved the way for hundreds of millions to be spent annually
since 2001 on adult stem cell research.
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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02 Jun 2006 11:08:16 AM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 1 Jun 2006 21:53:09 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
as ONE SINGLE WORD against abortion. Since abortion is a
highly-valuable REMEDY that enables millions of women to put
their lives BACK on track, and gives them another chance to
pursue their full ranges of future opportunities, the availability
of it is FAR more in line with God's COMPASSION (and the
compassion that Jesus commanded us to show to others), than
it would be for women to be FORCED to carry-to-term against
their will, and see many of their opportunities and their well-being
destroyed. (Particularly since God ALSO was/is well-aware that
MOST women who DO obtain abortions go on later to HAVE
children, by choice, when the timing is better, and the circum-
stances and prospects for long-term stable family environments
are far more favorable.)
For God, the status quo is "win-win-win" -- all the way!
Well, as I said before, I think you should discuss your ideas with
Jesus Christ after he returns to judge the earth. The principle of
repentance is just as available to you as anyone, but you have told me
that you will not repent of any sins, and I believe what you say.
Discuss it with Jesus Christ.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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02 Jun 2006 11:58:57 AM |
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On 2 Jun 2006 09:08:16 -0700,
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton wrote:
The Bible doesn't say so much as ONE SINGLE WORD against
abortion. Since abortion is a highly-valuable REMEDY that
enables millions of women to put their lives BACK on track,
and gives them another chance to pursue their full ranges
of future opportunities, the availability of it is FAR more in
line with God's COMPASSION (and the compassion that
Jesus commanded us to show to others), than it would be
for women to be FORCED to carry-to-term against their
will, and see many of their opportunities and their well-being
destroyed. (Particularly since God ALSO was/is well-aware that
MOST women who DO obtain abortions go on later to HAVE
children, by choice, when the timing is better, and the circum-
stances and prospects for long-term stable family environments
are far more favorable.)
For God, the status quo is "win-win-win" -- all the way!
Well, as I said before, ...
<OFF-topic BULLCRAP flushed>
We're still waiting for an ON-topic to THIS, Winn ---
The RRR Cult is America's GESTAPO wanna-be.
A collection of idiots and loser control-freaks who can't seem
to figure out the fact that the Bible NOwhere supports, appoints,
or in any way authorizes ANY person or group to act as an
ENFORCER of Biblical precepts and directives against society in
general. (Or far worse, as we see with abortion, the attempted
enforcement of the RRR's own PHONY DOGMA against society.)
In fact, the Bible commands just the OPPOSITE in 1 Cor. 5:12-13.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside
the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13God will judge those outside.
(Isn't it interesting the way that most of the RRR Cultists
try to foist such nonsense as the Adam and Eve story being
LITERALLY true (rather than allegorical) upon society with all
their ignorant anti-evolution propaganda and garbage... but
totally IGNORE (and **disobey** the passage above? What
HYPOCRITES!!)
The Bible *does* -- as that passage indicated -- allow for
"church discipline" WITHIN Christianity... vs. fellow Christians.
But it PROHIBITS Christians from acting as a Gestapo against
personal liberties of society as a whole.
Please address your response to the above HERE, or
continue to be properly regarded as a hypocritical coward.
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-- Craig Chilton
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GOD'S "WIN-WIN-WIN" SITUATION
God is omniscient and omnipotent. That means that He has
always KNOWN everything *about* everything, past present and
future. And that He may freely INTERACT, uniquely, with any
person, group, or all humanity, however and whenever He
chooses.
Trillions (indeed, even octillions) of years ago, God KNEW
just *which* human entities (from sperm and ova on, inclusive)
would be born, and which ones would NOT, for whatever
reason. In the case of Jeremiah, He interacted BEFORE
Jeremiah reached the womb -- while Jeremiah was STILL at
the sperm-and-ovum stage! (Jer. 1:5). In THAT case, at least,
the soul had been instilled at the sperm-and-egg stage -- the
stage at which God communicated with Jeremiah.
So it's VERY possible that God instills ALL souls at that
stage... since God ALREADY knows which of them will later
become people, and which ones will not. And if He chooses
to instill souls in ALL of those, then heaven must be a VERY
populated place. And any potential people that happened to
have been aborted then got a FREE pass to heaven. And
missed the RISK that is faced by all of us here on earth.
And then, there also is the very REAL possibility that God
chooses to instill souls ONLY in the entities that He KNOWS,
beforehand, *will* be BORN. Then there are NO free passes
to heaven. But that's no loss to the QUINTILLION human
entities, daily, that never knew the difference.
Any way you look at it, it's a "win-win" situation for God.
Which makes it no great surprise that He never said so much
as ONE SINGLE WORD against abortion. Since abortion is a
highly-valuable REMEDY that enables millions of women to put
their lives BACK on track, and gives them another chance to
pursue their full ranges of future opportunities, the availability
of it is FAR more in line with God's COMPASSION (and the
compassion that Jesus commanded us to show to others), than
it would be for women to be FORCED to carry-to-term against
their will, and see many of their opportunities and their well-being
destroyed. (Particularly since God ALSO was/is well-aware that
MOST women who DO obtain abortions go on later to HAVE
children, by choice, when the timing is better, and the circum-
stances and prospects for long-term stable family environments
are far more favorable.)
For God, the status quo is "win-win-win" -- all the way!
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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02 Jun 2006 01:28:18 PM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 2 Jun 2006 09:08:16 -0700,
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote
We're still waiting for an ON-topic to THIS, Winn ---
The RRR Cult is America's GESTAPO wanna-be.
A collection of idiots and loser control-freaks who can't seem
to figure out the fact that the Bible NOwhere supports, appoints,
or in any way authorizes ANY person or group to act as an
ENFORCER of Biblical precepts and directives against society in
general. (Or far worse, as we see with abortion, the attempted
enforcement of the RRR's own PHONY DOGMA against society.)
In fact, the Bible commands just the OPPOSITE in 1 Cor. 5:12-13.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside
the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13God will judge those outside.
(Isn't it interesting the way that most of the RRR Cultists
try to foist such nonsense as the Adam and Eve story being
LITERALLY true (rather than allegorical) upon society with all
their ignorant anti-evolution propaganda and garbage... but
totally IGNORE (and **disobey** the passage above? What
HYPOCRITES!!)
The Bible *does* -- as that passage indicated -- allow for
"church discipline" WITHIN Christianity... vs. fellow Christians.
But it PROHIBITS Christians from acting as a Gestapo against
personal liberties of society as a whole.
Please address your response to the above HERE, or
continue to be properly regarded as a hypocritical coward.
OK, Brother Craig, fellow Christian. Repent for the kingdom of heaven
is at hand.
Robert B. Winn
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02 Jun 2006 05:52:56 PM |
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On 2 Jun 2006 11:28:18 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
We're still waiting for an ON-topic response to THIS, Winn ---
The RRR Cult is America's GESTAPO wanna-be.
A collection of idiots and loser control-freaks who can't seem
to figure out the fact that the Bible NOwhere supports, appoints,
or in any way authorizes ANY person or group to act as an
ENFORCER of Biblical precepts and directives against society in
general. (Or far worse, as we see with abortion, the attempted
enforcement of the RRR's own PHONY DOGMA against society.)
In fact, the Bible commands just the OPPOSITE in
1 Cor. 5:12-13. ---
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside
the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13God will judge those outside.
(Isn't it interesting the way that most of the RRR Cultists
try to foist such nonsense as the Adam and Eve story being
LITERALLY true (rather than allegorical) upon society with all
their ignorant anti-evolution propaganda and garbage... but
totally IGNORE (and **disobey** the passage above? What
HYPOCRITES!!)
The Bible *does* -- as that passage indicated -- allow for
"church discipline" WITHIN Christianity... vs. fellow Christians.
But it PROHIBITS Christians from acting as a Gestapo against
personal liberties of society as a whole.
Please address your response to the above HERE, or
continue to be properly regarded as a hypocritical coward.
OK, Brother Craig, fellow Christian. ...
AGAIN, the cowardly troll, Winn, cuts and runs... DUCKING the
KEY issue with which I challenged him.
[[[ READERS: Unless and until he DOES address it, I'll re-post
the above from time to time as a reminder to everyone of
his dishonesty and trollishness. This post will be repeated
each of those times EXACTLY as you see it here, including
this message to you. ]]]
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
America's mentally-challenged version of the Taliban.
Where common sense and intelligence combine,
a fair-minded egalitarian is ALWAYS the result. RRR
Cult lemmings always lack either one or the other, or
both, of those two elements.
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02 Jun 2006 07:04:54 PM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 2 Jun 2006 11:28:18 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
We're still waiting for an ON-topic response to THIS, Winn ---
The RRR Cult is America's GESTAPO wanna-be.
A collection of idiots and loser control-freaks who can't seem
to figure out the fact that the Bible NOwhere supports, appoints,
or in any way authorizes ANY person or group to act as an
ENFORCER of Biblical precepts and directives against society in
general. (Or far worse, as we see with abortion, the attempted
enforcement of the RRR's own PHONY DOGMA against society.)
In fact, the Bible commands just the OPPOSITE in
1 Cor. 5:12-13. ---
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside
the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13God will judge those outside.
(Isn't it interesting the way that most of the RRR Cultists
try to foist such nonsense as the Adam and Eve story being
LITERALLY true (rather than allegorical) upon society with all
their ignorant anti-evolution propaganda and garbage... but
totally IGNORE (and **disobey** the passage above? What
HYPOCRITES!!)
The Bible *does* -- as that passage indicated -- allow for
"church discipline" WITHIN Christianity... vs. fellow Christians.
But it PROHIBITS Christians from acting as a Gestapo against
personal liberties of society as a whole.
Please address your response to the above HERE, or
continue to be properly regarded as a hypocritical coward.
OK, Brother Craig, fellow Christian. ...
AGAIN, the cowardly troll, Winn, cuts and runs... DUCKING the
KEY issue with which I challenged him.
[[[ READERS: Unless and until he DOES address it, I'll re-post
the above from time to time as a reminder to everyone of
his dishonesty and trollishness. This post will be repeated
each of those times EXACTLY as you see it here, including
this message to you. ]]]
Repentance, Brother Craig. Say nothing unto this generation except
repentance.
Robert B. Winn
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02 Jun 2006 08:38:20 PM |
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On 2 Jun 2006 11:28:18 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
We're still waiting for an ON-topic response to THIS, Winn ---
The RRR Cult is America's GESTAPO wanna-be.
A collection of idiots and loser control-freaks who can't seem
to figure out the fact that the Bible NOwhere supports, appoints,
or in any way authorizes ANY person or group to act as an
ENFORCER of Biblical precepts and directives against society in
general. (Or far worse, as we see with abortion, the attempted
enforcement of the RRR's own PHONY DOGMA against society.)
In fact, the Bible commands just the OPPOSITE in
1 Cor. 5:12-13. ---
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside
the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13God will judge those outside.
(Isn't it interesting the way that most of the RRR Cultists
try to foist such nonsense as the Adam and Eve story being
LITERALLY true (rather than allegorical) upon society with all
their ignorant anti-evolution propaganda and garbage... but
totally IGNORE (and **disobey** the passage above? What
HYPOCRITES!!)
The Bible *does* -- as that passage indicated -- allow for
"church discipline" WITHIN Christianity... vs. fellow Christians.
But it PROHIBITS Christians from acting as a Gestapo against
personal liberties of society as a whole.
Please address your response to the above HERE, or
continue to be properly regarded as a hypocritical coward.
OK, Brother Craig, fellow Christian. ...
AGAIN, the cowardly troll, Winn, cuts and runs... DUCKING the
KEY issue with which I challenged him.
[[[ READERS: Unless and until he DOES address it, I'll re-post
the above from time to time as a reminder to everyone of
his dishonesty and trollishness. This post will be repeated
each of those times EXACTLY as you see it here, including
this message to you. ]]]
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
--
RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
America's mentally-challenged version of the Taliban.
Where common sense and intelligence combine,
a fair-minded egalitarian is ALWAYS the result. RRR
Cult lemmings always lack either one or the other, or
both, of those two elements.
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03 Jun 2006 06:35:16 PM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 2 Jun 2006 11:28:18 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
We're still waiting for an ON-topic response to THIS, Winn ---
The RRR Cult is America's GESTAPO wanna-be.
A collection of idiots and loser control-freaks who can't seem
to figure out the fact that the Bible NOwhere supports, appoints,
or in any way authorizes ANY person or group to act as an
ENFORCER of Biblical precepts and directives against society in
general. (Or far worse, as we see with abortion, the attempted
enforcement of the RRR's own PHONY DOGMA against society.)
In fact, the Bible commands just the OPPOSITE in
1 Cor. 5:12-13. ---
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside
the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13God will judge those outside.
(Isn't it interesting the way that most of the RRR Cultists
try to foist such nonsense as the Adam and Eve story being
LITERALLY true (rather than allegorical) upon society with all
their ignorant anti-evolution propaganda and garbage... but
totally IGNORE (and **disobey** the passage above? What
HYPOCRITES!!)
The Bible *does* -- as that passage indicated -- allow for
"church discipline" WITHIN Christianity... vs. fellow Christians.
But it PROHIBITS Christians from acting as a Gestapo against
personal liberties of society as a whole.
Please address your response to the above HERE, or
continue to be properly regarded as a hypocritical coward.
OK, Brother Craig, fellow Christian. ...
AGAIN, the cowardly troll, Winn, cuts and runs... DUCKING the
KEY issue with which I challenged him.
[[[ READERS: Unless and until he DOES address it, I'll re-post
the above from time to time as a reminder to everyone of
his dishonesty and trollishness. This post will be repeated
each of those times EXACTLY as you see it here, including
this message to you. ]]]
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
I think the best way to sum up your prepared statements would be:
Immoral people have many problems that moral people do not have.
Robert B. Winn
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03 Jun 2006 07:21:01 PM |
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wrote:
Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 2 Jun 2006 11:28:18 -0700,
Robert B. Winn < > wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
We're still waiting for an ON-topic response to THIS, Winn ---
The RRR Cult is America's GESTAPO wanna-be.
A collection of idiots and loser control-freaks who can't seem
to figure out the fact that the Bible NOwhere supports, appoints,
or in any way authorizes ANY person or group to act as an
ENFORCER of Biblical precepts and directives against society in
general. (Or far worse, as we see with abortion, the attempted
enforcement of the RRR's own PHONY DOGMA against society.)
In fact, the Bible commands just the OPPOSITE in
1 Cor. 5:12-13. ---
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside
the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13God will judge those outside.
(Isn't it interesting the way that most of the RRR Cultists
try to foist such nonsense as the Adam and Eve story being
LITERALLY true (rather than allegorical) upon society with all
their ignorant anti-evolution propaganda and garbage... but
totally IGNORE (and **disobey** the passage above? What
HYPOCRITES!!)
The Bible *does* -- as that passage indicated -- allow for
"church discipline" WITHIN Christianity... vs. fellow Christians.
But it PROHIBITS Christians from acting as a Gestapo against
personal liberties of society as a whole.
Please address your response to the above HERE, or
continue to be properly regarded as a hypocritical coward.
OK, Brother Craig, fellow Christian. ...
AGAIN, the cowardly troll, Winn, cuts and runs... DUCKING the
KEY issue with which I challenged him.
[[[ READERS: Unless and until he DOES address it, I'll re-post
the above from time to time as a reminder to everyone of
his dishonesty and trollishness. This post will be repeated
each of those times EXACTLY as you see it here, including
this message to you. ]]]
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
I think the best way to sum up your prepared statements would be:
Immoral people have many problems that moral people do not have.
Robert B. Winn
Well, that would explain your many problems that others like Craig,
myself, and sexkitten do not have.
Mark Sebree
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03 Jun 2006 10:45:58 PM |
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Mark Sebree wrote:
rbwinn3@juno.com wrote:
Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 2 Jun 2006 11:28:18 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Mindless TROLL, Robert B. Winn wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
We're still waiting for an ON-topic response to THIS, Winn ---
The RRR Cult is America's GESTAPO wanna-be.
A collection of idiots and loser control-freaks who can't seem
to figure out the fact that the Bible NOwhere supports, appoints,
or in any way authorizes ANY person or group to act as an
ENFORCER of Biblical precepts and directives against society in
general. (Or far worse, as we see with abortion, the attempted
enforcement of the RRR's own PHONY DOGMA against society.)
In fact, the Bible commands just the OPPOSITE in
1 Cor. 5:12-13. ---
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside
the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13God will judge those outside.
(Isn't it interesting the way that most of the RRR Cultists
try to foist such nonsense as the Adam and Eve story being
LITERALLY true (rather than allegorical) upon society with all
their ignorant anti-evolution propaganda and garbage... but
totally IGNORE (and **disobey** the passage above? What
HYPOCRITES!!)
The Bible *does* -- as that passage indicated -- allow for
"church discipline" WITHIN Christianity... vs. fellow Christians.
But it PROHIBITS Christians from acting as a Gestapo against
personal liberties of society as a whole.
Please address your response to the above HERE, or
continue to be properly regarded as a hypocritical coward.
OK, Brother Craig, fellow Christian. ...
AGAIN, the cowardly troll, Winn, cuts and runs... DUCKING the
KEY issue with which I challenged him.
[[[ READERS: Unless and until he DOES address it, I'll re-post
the above from time to time as a reminder to everyone of
his dishonesty and trollishness. This post will be repeated
each of those times EXACTLY as you see it here, including
this message to you. ]]]
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
--
RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
I think the best way to sum up your prepared statements would be:
Immoral people have many problems that moral people do not have.
Robert B. Winn
Well, that would explain your many problems that others like Craig,
myself, and sexkitten do not have.
I was not aware of any problems I have at this time.
Robert B. Winn
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04 Jun 2006 09:32:31 AM |
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On 3 Jun 2006 20:45:58 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
I think the best way to sum up your prepared statements
would be: Immoral people have many problems that moral
people do not have.
Thanks for this demonstration (again) of your sheer STUPIDITY.
Well, that would explain your many problems that others
like Craig, myself, and sexkitten do not have.
Right you are!!
I was not aware of any problems I have at this time.
A typical and common comment that bigots and
sociopathic ignoramuses like you make.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 3 Jun 2006 20:45:58 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
I think the best way to sum up your prepared statements
would be: Immoral people have many problems that moral
people do not have.
Thanks for this demonstration (again) of your sheer STUPIDITY.
Well, that would explain your many problems that others
like Craig, myself, and sexkitten do not have.
Right you are!!
I was not aware of any problems I have at this time.
A typical and common comment that bigots and
sociopathic ignoramuses like you make.
Well, I have not been killing any children, I have not been committing
adultery, I already quit smoking and drinking alcohol, I am attending
church regularly, etc. What are the terrible problems that I am
supposed to have?
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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04 Jun 2006 11:31:45 AM |
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On 4 Jun 2006 07:52:09 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
I think the best way to sum up your prepared statements
would be: Immoral people have many problems that moral
people do not have.
Thanks for this demonstration (again) of your sheer STUPIDITY.
Well, that would explain your many problems that others
like Craig, myself, and sexkitten do not have.
Right you are!!
I was not aware of any problems I have at this time.
A typical and common comment that bigots and
sociopathic ignoramuses like you make.
Well, I have not been killing any children, ...
Neither has anyone else. So you're being STUPID again.
I have not been committing adultery,...
So what? What makes you think that ANY intelligent person
would give a flying rat's ***** whether you do or not. That's no
business of anyone's other than YOURS.
I guess you are so USED to being a pathological BUSYBODY
that you can't comprehend such common sense.
I already quit smoking and drinking alcohol,
Good for you. I congratulate you for doing SOMETHING
sensible, for yourself.
I am attending church regularly,...
So what? What makes you think that ANY intelligent person
would give a flying rat's ***** whether you do or not. That's no
business of anyone's other than YOURS.
I guess you are so USED to being a pathological BUSYBODY
that you can't comprehend such common sense.
What are the terrible problems that I am supposed to
have?
A sociopathic streak of hateful and mindless bigotry that you
are MORONIC enough to reveal to others. Making you, very
deservedly, a laughingstock.
For SENSIBLE people, that would be an AWFUL problem.
But on the other hand, NO *sensible* person would HAVE
such a problem in the first place. Sensible people don't go
around WHINING about the personal liberties and exercise
thereof, of other people.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| Title: Re: RRR Cultists... Probably the most UN-Chrstian crowd of hateful losers since the Crusades! |
04 Jun 2006 09:20:55 PM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
On 4 Jun 2006 07:52:09 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
Mark Sebree wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:
I think the best way to sum up your prepared statements
would be: Immoral people have many problems that moral
people do not have.
Thanks for this demonstration (again) of your sheer STUPIDITY.
Well, that would explain your many problems that others
like Craig, myself, and sexkitten do not have.
Right you are!!
I was not aware of any problems I have at this time.
A typical and common comment that bigots and
sociopathic ignoramuses like you make.
Well, I have not been killing any children, ...
Neither has anyone else. So you're being STUPID again.
I have not been committing adultery,...
So what? What makes you think that ANY intelligent person
would give a flying rat's ***** whether you do or not. That's no
business of anyone's other than YOURS.
I guess you are so USED to being a pathological BUSYBODY
that you can't comprehend such common sense.
I already quit smoking and drinking alcohol,
Good for you. I congratulate you for doing SOMETHING
sensible, for yourself.
I am attending church regularly,...
So what? What makes you think that ANY intelligent person
would give a flying rat's ***** whether you do or not. That's no
business of anyone's other than YOURS.
I guess you are so USED to being a pathological BUSYBODY
that you can't comprehend such common sense.
What are the terrible problems that I am supposed to
have?
A sociopathic streak of hateful and mindless bigotry that you
are MORONIC enough to reveal to others. Making you, very
deservedly, a laughingstock.
For SENSIBLE people, that would be an AWFUL problem.
But on the other hand, NO *sensible* person would HAVE
such a problem in the first place. Sensible people don't go
around WHINING about the personal liberties and exercise
thereof, of other people.
Well, my personal opinion is that it would be more important to stay
out of homicides of children than to worry about the personal opinions
of people who are involved in homicides of children. That is just my
personal opinion.
Robert B. Winn
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05 Jun 2006 12:08:06 AM |
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07 Jun 2006 08:40:42 PM |
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:
___________________
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Yes, it is a very good picture of you, Craig.
Daniel 8:11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host,
and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his
sanctuary was cast down.
Robert B. Winn
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07 Jun 2006 10:16:54 PM |
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28 May 2006 04:38:58 AM |
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On Sun, 28 May 2006 04:04:33 GMT,
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:
[ ... ]
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded
Medical Breakthroughs
Christianity has not yielded anything at all of value,
despite having had over 2,000 years worth of chances.
Your point, other than the one under your hat, would be?
Because God came to earth as Jesus, in a manner that
could be compared in a FAR lesser manner than if one of us
were to become a gnat and live among gnats... and had such
profound and unbelievable compassion for us that He let
Himself be tortured and murdered by us -- so that he could
take upon Himself the sins of the world and this make it
possible for Him to thereafter redeem those who sought and
accepted Him... because of all of that, countless hundreds of
millions, and possibly billions of people will get to live on
eternally. Never-ending lives that will be wondrous beyond
our current ability to comprehend, in a supernally-beautiful
universe.
That's yielding SOMETHING of value -- to *literally* the
infinite power, factorial!
Religions have always had their extremists, and people
whose low IQs have made them susceptible to being conned
by the leaders of those extremists. 15% of any random pop-
ulation has an IQ under 85, and 5% an IQ under 70. They
don't have the ability to integrate data as well, and are there-
fore susceptible to lying propaganda... especially when it's
been carefully crafted to tickle their ears -- as the Bible
predicts that False Teachers will do as the end times approach.
The people that we condemn as bigots aren't representative
of Christianity. Not even remotely! 94% of Americans who
profess Christianity are normal, sensible, fair-minded for the
most part, and unobtrusive people who keep a low profile and
are our friends and neighbors whose company we enjoy.
The other 6% are the high-profile and hateful RRR cultists
who mindlessly and lemming-like support loathsome agendas
against several personal liberties and human rights.
They are comprised of NON-Christians who pretend to be
Christians, as a unifying factor... and actual Christians of lower
mentality who have been DUPED into thinking the RRR's
agendas are worthwhile.
As egalitarians, our foes are those PSEUDO-Christians and
the low-IQ Christians who need very badly to become informed
of the TRUE hateful nature of the cult that has ensnared them.
NOT Christians.
I'm a normal, non-RRR-Cult Christian who has been stead-
fastly posting in Usenet for a decade against the abusive,
hateful, lying and bigoted RRR Cult and its anti-human rights
agendas. There are tens of MILLIONS of people just like me,
but who (for the most part, unfortunately) simply don't actively
oppose the cult.
Please don't indict Christianity.
We don't deserve it.
Our target is the hateful and UN-Christian RRR Cult and
its loathsome agendas.
Please help to keep the public informed of the VAST difference.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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28 May 2006 07:04:44 AM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, youngopinions in episode
<oJudnQHOt7vNh-TZRVn-pg@giganews.com>...
The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts at playing God
have proven unsuccessful
Stem cell research has wide support among the public, including
Republicans.
Notice how much people pay attention to you? You actually have to *pay to
have your little opinions "published." And even then just on some Usenet
newsgroups.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Ronald More-More Moshki" |
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27 May 2006 10:40:15 PM |
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younga_pederast proves as evil as Yang is,
younga_pederast is 50 x's more evil.
Maybe 5000 x's more.
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