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"james g. keegan jr," |
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02 Apr 2005 08:01:19 PM |
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"ethics" poster-boy delay tries to intimidate judges |
DeLay Wants Panel to Review Role of Courts
By Mike Allen
The Washington Post
Saturday 02 April 2005
Democrats criticize his attack on judges.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), under fire from Democrats
for what they consider threatening remarks about federal judges, plans
to ask the Judiciary Committee to undertake a broad review of the
courts' handing of the Terri Schiavo case, his office said yesterday.
DeLay's office did not specify exactly what the majority leader wants
the committee to do. The Constitution gives Congress the power to set
the areas of authority for federal courts, but it was unclear what
could be done by the committee in response to the Schiavo case, in
particular.
The majority leader said Thursday he wants to examine what he called
the "failure" of state and federal courts to protect Schiavo, who died
13 days after the court-ordered withdrawal of her feeding tube.
DeLay issued a statement asserting that "the time will come for the
men responsible for this to answer for their behavior." He later said
in front of television cameras that he wants to "look at an arrogant,
out-of-control, unaccountable judiciary that thumbed their nose at
Congress and the president."
Democrats continued to criticize DeLay yesterday, with Sen. Frank
Lautenberg (D-N.J.) charging that the Republican might have broken a
federal statute against threatening US judges.
"Threats against specific federal judges are not only a serious crime,
but also beneath a Member of Congress," Lautenberg wrote. "Your
attempt to intimidate judges in America not only threatens our courts,
but our fundamental democracy as well."
DeLay's comments reflected the frustration and anger that some
conservatives say they felt when no judge or justice was willing to
act in response to congressional legislation, which President Bush
flew home from Texas to sign last week, calling on the federal courts
to review the case, which has been handled by Florida courts.
The Senate confirmed about 200 of Bush's judicial nominees during the
past four years, and most of them were considered to be conservative.
Nonetheless, DeLay and many other conservatives say they feel betrayed
by the courts in the Schiavo case.
DeLay told Fox News interviewer Brit Hume on Thursday that there are
"a lot of questions that need to be answered."
"We need to look at this case," DeLay continued. "We need to look at
the failure of the judiciary in Florida. We need to look at the
failure of the judiciary on the federal level."
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) said Thursday that "at a time when
emotions are running high, Mr. DeLay needs to make clear that he is
not advocating violence against anyone."
Dan Allen, DeLay's communications director, said that DeLay was "once
again expressing his disappointment in how the courts clearly ignored
the intent of the legislation that was passed."
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/040205D.shtml
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02 Apr 2005 10:39:03 PM |
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In article <pan.2005.04.03.02.01.03.315101@nycap.rr.com>,
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
DeLay Wants Panel to Review Role of Courts
By Mike Allen
The Washington Post
Saturday 02 April 2005
Democrats criticize his attack on judges.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), under fire from Democrats
for what they consider threatening remarks about federal judges, plans
to ask the Judiciary Committee to undertake a broad review of the
courts' handing of the Terri Schiavo case, his office said yesterday.
DeLay is absolutely shameless. When Gore made a few phone calls from an
office phone to raise funds for the Democrats, the Republicans were all
over that like flies on *****. Where are those self-righteous Republicans
now that one of their own has been accused of unethical behavior? DeLay
is trying to divert attention to himself by putting the judges who heard
the Schiavo case on the hot seat.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr," |
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03 Apr 2005 01:28:53 PM |
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On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:39:03 -0500, Shawn Hearn wrote:
In article <pan.2005.04.03.02.01.03.315101@nycap.rr.com>,
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
DeLay Wants Panel to Review Role of Courts
By Mike Allen
The Washington Post
Saturday 02 April 2005
Democrats criticize his attack on judges.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), under fire from Democrats
for what they consider threatening remarks about federal judges,
plans to ask the Judiciary Committee to undertake a broad review of
the courts' handing of the Terri Schiavo case, his office said
yesterday.
DeLay is absolutely shameless. When Gore made a few phone calls from an
office phone to raise funds for the Democrats, the Republicans were all
over that like flies on *****. Where are those self-righteous Republicans
now that one of their own has been accused of unethical behavior? DeLay
is trying to divert attention to himself by putting the judges who heard
the Schiavo case on the hot seat.
the nature of being republican, or supporting republican candidates,
requires a deep-seated amorality, no ethics whatsoever, and willingness to
blatantly lie while, at the saem time, feeling you are doing god's will.
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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04 Apr 2005 07:38:46 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.04.03.18.28.48.224671@nycap.rr.com...
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:39:03 -0500, Shawn Hearn wrote:
In article <pan.2005.04.03.02.01.03.315101@nycap.rr.com>,
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
DeLay Wants Panel to Review Role of Courts
By Mike Allen
The Washington Post
Saturday 02 April 2005
Democrats criticize his attack on judges.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), under fire from Democrats
for what they consider threatening remarks about federal judges,
plans to ask the Judiciary Committee to undertake a broad review of
the courts' handing of the Terri Schiavo case, his office said
yesterday.
DeLay is absolutely shameless. When Gore made a few phone calls from an
office phone to raise funds for the Democrats, the Republicans were all
over that like flies on *****. Where are those self-righteous Republicans
now that one of their own has been accused of unethical behavior? DeLay
is trying to divert attention to himself by putting the judges who heard
the Schiavo case on the hot seat.
the nature of being republican, or supporting republican candidates,
requires a deep-seated amorality, no ethics whatsoever, and willingness to
blatantly lie while, at the saem time, feeling you are doing god's will.
I disagree.
Your words may describe the current state of the Republican party, but it is
based on a fraction of its membership, albeit a growing fraction. That
'fraction' has done to the Republican party what the Fred Phelps' & Jerry
Falwell's have done to religion, and the Sharpton's & Zell Miller's have
done to the Democrats.
A good example would be John McCain, though I disagree with his politics on
gun control. And it seems that he has buckled under the current Republican
pressure.
Since the majority of Americans seem to only comprehend two and three-second
sound bites, rather than complex concepts followed by legitimate dialog and
rational compromise, only the biggest blowhards of the various organizations
make it into the various media outlets.
Give 'the people' what they want....and apparently 'they' ordered a huge
slab of stupid, a side order of dumbass, garnished with *****.
I give you the usual idiots of this NG as example "A." Ther is nothing
'conservative' about the current generation of Republicans, but the morons
around here are only capable of repeating what they heard today on Limbaugh,
not even realizing that the ***** they are spouting is diametrically
opposed to the very concept of "politically conservative."
They're just a bunch of fucking sheep, and obviously quite proud of their
unoriginality since they never tire of showing it off.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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04 Apr 2005 09:18:37 PM |
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"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in
news:q6l4e.33708$1H3.5115@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.04.03.18.28.48.224671@nycap.rr.com...
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:39:03 -0500, Shawn Hearn wrote:
In article <pan.2005.04.03.02.01.03.315101@nycap.rr.com>,
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
DeLay Wants Panel to Review Role of Courts
By Mike Allen
The Washington Post
Saturday 02 April 2005
Democrats criticize his attack on judges.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), under fire from
Democrats for what they consider threatening remarks about
federal judges, plans to ask the Judiciary Committee to
undertake a broad review of the courts' handing of the Terri
Schiavo case, his office said yesterday.
DeLay is absolutely shameless. When Gore made a few phone calls
from an office phone to raise funds for the Democrats, the
Republicans were all over that like flies on *****. Where are those
self-righteous Republicans now that one of their own has been
accused of unethical behavior? DeLay is trying to divert attention
to himself by putting the judges who heard the Schiavo case on the
hot seat.
the nature of being republican, or supporting republican candidates,
requires a deep-seated amorality, no ethics whatsoever, and
willingness to blatantly lie while, at the saem time, feeling you are
doing god's will.
I disagree.
Your words may describe the current state of the Republican party, but
it is based on a fraction of its membership, albeit a growing
fraction. That 'fraction' has done to the Republican party what the
Fred Phelps' & Jerry Falwell's have done to religion, and the
Sharpton's & Zell Miller's have done to the Democrats.
on the contrary, the facts speak for themseves. if what i said applied
only to a "fraction" of the gop, then the others would have long ago
revolted and thrown out the sleazeballs. they did not. ergo, my statement
is correct.
A good example would be John McCain, though I disagree with his
politics on gun control. And it seems that he has buckled under the
current Republican pressure.
perhaps he has buckled somewhat. after what his own party did to him in
2000, it would be difficult not to. people should have gone to jail for
that. they did not.
Since the majority of Americans seem to only comprehend two and
three-second sound bites, rather than complex concepts followed by
legitimate dialog and rational compromise, only the biggest blowhards
of the various organizations make it into the various media outlets.
that's part of it, i agree. the gop has steadily tried to dumb down the
usa and then manipulate the fools. they have done a pretty good job of
that too.
Give 'the people' what they want....and apparently 'they' ordered a
huge slab of stupid, a side order of dumbass, garnished with *****.
I give you the usual idiots of this NG as example "A." Ther is nothing
'conservative' about the current generation of Republicans, but the
morons around here are only capable of repeating what they heard today
on Limbaugh, not even realizing that the ***** they are spouting is
diametrically opposed to the very concept of "politically
conservative."
again, if there were legitimate gop'ers here, they'd speak out. few, if
any, have done that.
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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04 Apr 2005 10:42:26 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962EE2F68878Dkeegannycaprrcom@130.133.1.4...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in
news:q6l4e.33708$1H3.5115@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.04.03.18.28.48.224671@nycap.rr.com...
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:39:03 -0500, Shawn Hearn wrote:
In article <pan.2005.04.03.02.01.03.315101@nycap.rr.com>,
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
DeLay Wants Panel to Review Role of Courts
By Mike Allen
The Washington Post
Saturday 02 April 2005
Democrats criticize his attack on judges.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), under fire from
Democrats for what they consider threatening remarks about
federal judges, plans to ask the Judiciary Committee to
undertake a broad review of the courts' handing of the Terri
Schiavo case, his office said yesterday.
DeLay is absolutely shameless. When Gore made a few phone calls
from an office phone to raise funds for the Democrats, the
Republicans were all over that like flies on *****. Where are those
self-righteous Republicans now that one of their own has been
accused of unethical behavior? DeLay is trying to divert attention
to himself by putting the judges who heard the Schiavo case on the
hot seat.
the nature of being republican, or supporting republican candidates,
requires a deep-seated amorality, no ethics whatsoever, and
willingness to blatantly lie while, at the saem time, feeling you are
doing god's will.
I disagree.
Your words may describe the current state of the Republican party, but
it is based on a fraction of its membership, albeit a growing
fraction. That 'fraction' has done to the Republican party what the
Fred Phelps' & Jerry Falwell's have done to religion, and the
Sharpton's & Zell Miller's have done to the Democrats.
on the contrary, the facts speak for themseves. if what i said applied
only to a "fraction" of the gop, then the others would have long ago
revolted and thrown out the sleazeballs. they did not. ergo, my statement
is correct.
A good example would be John McCain, though I disagree with his
politics on gun control. And it seems that he has buckled under the
current Republican pressure.
perhaps he has buckled somewhat. after what his own party did to him in
2000, it would be difficult not to. people should have gone to jail for
that. they did not.
Since the majority of Americans seem to only comprehend two and
three-second sound bites, rather than complex concepts followed by
legitimate dialog and rational compromise, only the biggest blowhards
of the various organizations make it into the various media outlets.
that's part of it, i agree. the gop has steadily tried to dumb down the
usa and then manipulate the fools. they have done a pretty good job of
that too.
I find it disgusting that so much press was given to the soap opera
surrounding the Shiavos that two events of staggering proportions went
almost unmentioned. Quite frankly, both should have been front page news...
For the first time in the recorded history of our species, scientists:
1.) discovered intact, soft tissue in the femur of a T-rex;
and 2.) photographed a planet outside our solar system, orbiting another
star. Their existence has been calculated by Doppler shift (?) and wobble,
but we now have definitive proof of their existence.
T-Rex:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/
Planet:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7357501
Give 'the people' what they want....and apparently 'they' ordered a
huge slab of stupid, a side order of dumbass, garnished with *****.
I give you the usual idiots of this NG as example "A." Ther is nothing
'conservative' about the current generation of Republicans, but the
morons around here are only capable of repeating what they heard today
on Limbaugh, not even realizing that the ***** they are spouting is
diametrically opposed to the very concept of "politically
conservative."
again, if there were legitimate gop'ers here, they'd speak out. few, if
any, have done that.
Though I'm not a "gop'er," I am actually quite conservative. 'Conservative'
just happens to be a horribly misused word.
I guess you could say I'm a liberal-conservative, forward-thinking but
reserved. Or as my wife puts it, a gun-carrying, pro-choice, capitalist
tree-hugger.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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04 Apr 2005 07:41:14 PM |
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"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:q6l4e.33708$1H3.5115@tornado.texas.rr.com...
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.04.03.18.28.48.224671@nycap.rr.com...
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:39:03 -0500, Shawn Hearn wrote:
In article <pan.2005.04.03.02.01.03.315101@nycap.rr.com>,
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
DeLay Wants Panel to Review Role of Courts
By Mike Allen
The Washington Post
Saturday 02 April 2005
Democrats criticize his attack on judges.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), under fire from
Democrats
for what they consider threatening remarks about federal judges,
plans to ask the Judiciary Committee to undertake a broad review
of
the courts' handing of the Terri Schiavo case, his office said
yesterday.
DeLay is absolutely shameless. When Gore made a few phone calls from
an
office phone to raise funds for the Democrats, the Republicans were
all
over that like flies on *****. Where are those self-righteous
Republicans
now that one of their own has been accused of unethical behavior?
DeLay
is trying to divert attention to himself by putting the judges who
heard
the Schiavo case on the hot seat.
the nature of being republican, or supporting republican candidates,
requires a deep-seated amorality, no ethics whatsoever, and willingness
to
blatantly lie while, at the saem time, feeling you are doing god's will.
I disagree.
Your words may describe the current state of the Republican party, but it
is
based on a fraction of its membership, albeit a growing fraction. That
'fraction' has done to the Republican party what the Fred Phelps' & Jerry
Falwell's have done to religion, and the Sharpton's & Zell Miller's have
done to the Democrats.
A good example would be John McCain, though I disagree with his politics
on
gun control. And it seems that he has buckled under the current Republican
pressure.
McCain is a good example of what is still correct within the Republican
party.
-DMc
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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04 Apr 2005 09:59:07 PM |
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The other Donald <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:q6l4e.33708$1H3.5115@tornado.texas.rr.com...
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.04.03.18.28.48.224671@nycap.rr.com...
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:39:03 -0500, Shawn Hearn wrote:
In article <pan.2005.04.03.02.01.03.315101@nycap.rr.com>,
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
DeLay Wants Panel to Review Role of Courts
By Mike Allen
The Washington Post
Saturday 02 April 2005
Democrats criticize his attack on judges.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), under fire from
Democrats
for what they consider threatening remarks about federal judges,
plans to ask the Judiciary Committee to undertake a broad review
of
the courts' handing of the Terri Schiavo case, his office said
yesterday.
DeLay is absolutely shameless. When Gore made a few phone calls from
an
office phone to raise funds for the Democrats, the Republicans were
all
over that like flies on *****. Where are those self-righteous
Republicans
now that one of their own has been accused of unethical behavior?
DeLay
is trying to divert attention to himself by putting the judges who
heard
the Schiavo case on the hot seat.
the nature of being republican, or supporting republican candidates,
requires a deep-seated amorality, no ethics whatsoever, and willingness
to
blatantly lie while, at the saem time, feeling you are doing god's will.
I disagree.
Your words may describe the current state of the Republican party, but it
is
based on a fraction of its membership, albeit a growing fraction. That
'fraction' has done to the Republican party what the Fred Phelps' & Jerry
Falwell's have done to religion, and the Sharpton's & Zell Miller's have
done to the Democrats.
A good example would be John McCain, though I disagree with his politics
on
gun control. And it seems that he has buckled under the current Republican
pressure.
McCain is a good example of what is still correct within the Republican
party.
Not anymore. He's become another soldier for Bush.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Sgt. America" |
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05 Apr 2005 08:12:26 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
The other Donald <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:q6l4e.33708$1H3.5115@tornado.texas.rr.com...
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.04.03.18.28.48.224671@nycap.rr.com...
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:39:03 -0500, Shawn Hearn wrote:
In article <pan.2005.04.03.02.01.03.315101@nycap.rr.com>,
"james g. keegan jr," <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
DeLay Wants Panel to Review Role of Courts
By Mike Allen
The Washington Post
Saturday 02 April 2005
Democrats criticize his attack on judges.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), under fire from
Democrats
for what they consider threatening remarks about federal judges,
plans to ask the Judiciary Committee to undertake a broad review
of
the courts' handing of the Terri Schiavo case, his office said
yesterday.
DeLay is absolutely shameless. When Gore made a few phone calls from
an
office phone to raise funds for the Democrats, the Republicans were
all
over that like flies on *****. Where are those self-righteous
Republicans
now that one of their own has been accused of unethical behavior?
DeLay
is trying to divert attention to himself by putting the judges who
heard
the Schiavo case on the hot seat.
the nature of being republican, or supporting republican candidates,
requires a deep-seated amorality, no ethics whatsoever, and willingness
to
blatantly lie while, at the saem time, feeling you are doing god's will.
I disagree.
Your words may describe the current state of the Republican party, but it
is
based on a fraction of its membership, albeit a growing fraction. That
'fraction' has done to the Republican party what the Fred Phelps' & Jerry
Falwell's have done to religion, and the Sharpton's & Zell Miller's have
done to the Democrats.
A good example would be John McCain, though I disagree with his politics
on
gun control. And it seems that he has buckled under the current Republican
pressure.
McCain is a good example of what is still correct within the Republican
party.
Not anymore. He's become another soldier for Bush.
Then you're a reactionary for death to unborns and oppression for
Iraqis.
Ray Fischer, you're a cocksucking truth-hating fuckwit. And you know it.
If Republicans are as bad as *you* say they then maybe you'd better
watch your back. Ahahaha. ***** you, dickless *****. When was the last
time your wife went down on something living, you *****?
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| User: "Logical Barbarian" |
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05 Apr 2005 03:55:56 AM |
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James g. keegan jr:
According to you Delay said "look at an arrogant, out-of-control,
unaccountable judiciary that thumbed their nose at Congress and the
president."
Whatever his other faults I am afraid he is right in this statement.
Conservative or liberal judges vote arbitrarily and not by law. That
is how a judgment on the same topic can change completely in a few
short years though there is no change in the law. Congress needs to
impeach some judges and perhaps the true "Rule of Law" will be
restored.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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05 Apr 2005 10:45:10 AM |
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"Logical Barbarian" <kerwin_brown@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1112691356.806128.78250@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
James g. keegan jr:
According to you Delay said "look at an arrogant, out-of-control,
unaccountable judiciary that thumbed their nose at Congress and the
president."
Whatever his other faults I am afraid he is right in this statement.
based on the facts of the matter, he is wrong. he did what the gop often
does: he misrepresented and lied in an effort to rip apart the system of
checks and balances which is supposed to control how this country is
governed.
Conservative or liberal judges vote arbitrarily and not by law.
strawman. has nothing to do with the case at hand. saying "he did it too"
doesn't absolve one of guilt.
That is how a judgment on the same topic can change completely in a
few short years though there is no change in the law. Congress needs
to impeach some judges and perhaps the true "Rule of Law" will be
restored.
i doubt that the rule of law can recover from the death blows it received
from the bush administration. for it to do so, a number of high ranking
officials would have to be indited, including a former, united states
attorney general, and perhaps bush himself.
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| User: "Logical Barbarian" |
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10 Apr 2005 03:52:33 PM |
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James G. Keegan jr. wrote:
based on the facts of the matter, he is wrong. he did what the gop
often
does: he misrepresented and lied in an effort to rip apart the system
of
checks and balances which is supposed to control how this country is
governed.
You are mistaken according to the facts the federal courts did thumb
their nose at Congress. Some say the courts were right to do so,
Delay and others say they were wrong. I say the so the courts are
corrupt, what's new.
strawman. has nothing to do with the case at hand. saying "he did it
too"
doesn't absolve one of guilt.
Actually I wasn't absolving Delay of guilt. The voters in his area
will handle that. I am more concerned about the corrupt Court system
which voters do not get the opportunity to change.
I doubt that the rule of law can recover from the death blows it
received
from the bush administration. for it to do so, a number of high
ranking
officials would have to be indited, including a former, united states
attorney general, and perhaps bush himself.
Bush is only in their a few more years and we recovered from Regan's
stint in office so I am confident we can keep him in check.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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10 Apr 2005 04:33:01 PM |
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"Logical Barbarian" <kerwin_brown@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1113166353.278545.75010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
James G. Keegan jr. wrote:
based on the facts of the matter, he is wrong. he did what the gop
often does: he misrepresented and lied in an effort to rip apart the
system of checks and balances which is supposed to control how this
country is governed.
You are mistaken
on the contrary, i am not mistaken.
in fact, his own party is abandoning him for this reason. even chaney
criticized him.
according to the facts the federal courts did thumb
their nose at Congress.
only a fool ignorant of the facts, would say that.
Some say the courts were right to do so,
of course
Delay and others say they were wrong.
strawman.
threatening judges is just another of delay's illegal actions
I say the so the courts are corrupt,
what you say isn't important.
strawman. has nothing to do with the case at hand. saying "he did it
too" doesn't absolve one of guilt.
Actually I wasn't absolving Delay of guilt.
you certainly weren't critical of his actions.
The voters in his area will handle that. I am more concerned about
the corrupt Court system which voters do not get the opportunity to
change
the sustem you call "corrupt,". an astonishing allegation absent any
evidence to support it.
at least when people call bush a crook and a liar they offer evidence.
I doubt that the rule of law can recover from the death blows it
received from the bush administration. for it to do so, a number of
high ranking officials would have to be indited, including a former,
united states attorney general, and perhaps bush himself.
Bush is only in their a few more years
when he, and others, should be in jail
and we recovered from Regan's
stint in office so I am confident we can keep him in check.
your confidence has already failed as bush has not been held in check,.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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10 Apr 2005 06:54:32 PM |
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Logical Barbarian <kerwin_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
James G. Keegan jr. wrote:
based on the facts of the matter, he is wrong. he did what the gop
often
does: he misrepresented and lied in an effort to rip apart the system
of
checks and balances which is supposed to control how this country is
governed.
You are mistaken according to the facts the federal courts did thumb
their nose at Congress.
Even congress must abide by the Consitution.
Some say the courts were right to do so,
Delay and others say they were wrong.
DeLay is an irrational *****. Congress did NOT pass any law
requiring that Terri Schiavo be kept alive. They passed a law
which gave the federal courts permission to review the case.
The agreed witht the Florida courts.
But you neocons hate the law. You spit on the law in favor of
dictatorship.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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05 Apr 2005 09:26:43 PM |
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Logical Barbarian <kerwin_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
James g. keegan jr:
According to you Delay said "look at an arrogant, out-of-control,
unaccountable judiciary that thumbed their nose at Congress and the
president."
Whatever his other faults I am afraid he is right in this statement.
Conservative or liberal judges vote arbitrarily and not by law.
There's the beginning of fascism. Intolerant of any dissent and
ignorant of the law you attack the last defenders of your civil
rights.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Logical Barbarian" |
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10 Apr 2005 03:40:54 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
There's the beginning of fascism. Intolerant of any dissent and
ignorant of the law you attack the last defenders of your civil
rights.
It is true that you support a corrupt court system that has taken civil
rights by denying Americans discussion on the virtue of proposed and
existent laws and the ability to change them. The courts abuse our
civil rights through arbitrary court ruling that have little or nothing
to do with justice and law.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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10 Apr 2005 06:55:32 PM |
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Logical Barbarian <kerwin_brown@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
There's the beginning of fascism. Intolerant of any dissent and
ignorant of the law you attack the last defenders of your civil
rights.
It is true that you support a corrupt court system
The only corruption is yours. Driven irrational by your impotence
you accuse others of corruption when it is YOU that has no regard for
law.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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